And the very first sentence is "If you believe comments in discussion boards and blogs across the Internet, search giant Google is developing an instant messaging initiative." (Emphasis mine.)
If you believe credible journalists and official statements from Google, no such initiative has ever been announced.
Nevertheless, it would be pretty cool to see Google Messenger BETA sometime soon. If they could tie it in with GMail BETA, they could really make an awesome conversation search engine BETA.
Bullshit. PayPal hasn't been "beta" for years, yet they are courteous enough to inform me when they change the terms of their User Agreement. If I don't agree to the terms of the new User Agreement, I have the option to terminate my account at any time.
Beta is all about deflecting criticism of Google products. GMail doesn't support IMAP? Well, it's in beta! Froogle can be easily exploited to report deceptively low prices -- that's in beta too! Google News often displays stories as 'related' when they have nothing in common, but that's in beta. It just goes on and on. People have very high expectations of Google, but Google hasn't released a new product since Google Groups (and that's been replaced by Google Groups 2, which is a sharply-criticized beta).
I've got an alarm clock radio that could play MP3s, and it has a 19-inch monitor.
at 7:00 AM mpg123 "Guns N Roses - Sweet Child O Mine.mp3" ^D
It even plays Oggs too:
at 11:30 AM ogg123 "Richard Stallman - Free Software Song (Whiny Emo Remix).ogg" ^D
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Camino is better than both.
It lacks the "Mozilla in Mac OS X clothing" look of Firefox, instead using Cocoa for the front-end and Gecko for rendering. The resultant program is fast, good-looking, and feels like a native application instead of a XUL executable.
Even though it's only at 0.8b (thus putting it at the same code maturity level as most Google services) it has become my default browser in OS X.
The only caveat is that it doesn't support any of the fancy extensions that Firefox does, but I'd rather look at ads than at Firefox for Mac.
Dude, you would have to spend at least $1000 dollars to get a good-sized RAID Array. For that price, you could buy a whole PC computer with an HDD drive large enough to store the movie fear.com!
Good. Then I don't trust Google News, the new Google Groups, Gmail, or Google Maps. The next time someone suggests I use them, I will forego them in favor of competing services that are complete.
Saying something is "beta" is a great way to get out of providing any guarantees or support. If you're going to change something, at least have the balls to say "we changed it" instead of "well, it's beta; it might change at any time."
I was also under the impression that a "beta" was a limited testing period. I find it hard to confide in companies like ICQ and Google that keep their products in perpetual beta without any word on when (or if) they'll ever be finished.
If a beta is as good as we can get, then the whole web application market still needs a swift kick in its over-sat ass.
Knowing Google, it will be in beta for years. People will insist that it's the best, even though it's in beta and how dare you criticize a beta product.
How can you be so sure they'll "expand its scope in the future"? Google News has stayed the same for three years without any customizability or flexibility (I want info on MY sports teams, not the world's most popular teams).
Oh crap. I just criticized a Google service. Better bring on the lies about how beta is a legally-binding term, and that it's good for Google to never release anything as a final version.
Do you really want Linux to be seen as a bargain-basement option for personal computing? These computers are cheap -- not just inexpensive, but cheap.
Right now in the consumer marketplace, Linux feels like the equivalent of those racks of $5 shareware you see at CompUSA. I don't think that product placement at Wal-Mart will do any good, especially with Slashdot users coming up and getting absolutely no support from the Wal-Mart salespeople in the stores.
On my PowerBook G4, which I bought in May and hadn't been superseded until last week, it's in Macintosh HD: Applications (OS 9): Netscape Communicator.
I'd send you a screen shot, but I deleted all the OS 9 apps right after I got the machine.
Netscape 4 was the worst browser ever shipped by any company, ever. I cringe every time I see it still installed on a computer. (Did you know that Apple still bundles the Mac OS 9 version on PowerBooks?!)
I would much rather have IE4 than Netscape 4, security holes be damned.
And Google has "practically the exact same interface" as Yahoo and Altavista did before their conversion to portals. Incidentially, all the major search engines offer toolbars, browser plugins, and minimalist web pages with a search box.
The user interface for search is a text box with a submit button. Google did not invent it, and Google cannot lay claim to having "innovated it."
An IDS is not a magic bullet. Many users generate a very simple profile based on what they do; for them, it's easy to tell when their account has been compromised. For the super-paranoid techie users that choose 42-random-character passwords and encrypt everything with 2048-bit keys, an IDS probably won't generate too many red flags that administrators will need to act on.
Consider the standard-deviation method of determining outliers. If you have a totally random sample, the standard deviation is huge. If you have totally random behavior when you use a computer, an IDS won't be able to determine when something is up.
I'm terribly sorry that you are so adamantly opposed to a program that you've never used. I especially liked the part where you claimed you would be "locked out of the system... because [you]... crossed some arbitrary threshold" when I clearly stated that IDSes are "not intended to replace passwords" and that using an IDS "does NOT mean that the security team will show up if you ever do something you haven't done before." more than two hours before you posted your verbose little diatribe.
In the future, I will be sure to ask you for your approval on any software product I plan to develop. If it's not good enough for you, it's obviously not worth developing.
True, but that (stealing) is actually destructive behavior. IDSes that use this adaptive technology are not meant to prevent destructive behavior; they are meant to prevent malfeasant behavior. If you have someone who logs in as user X and pretends to be user X, that is much worse than if you have someone who logs in as user X and runs rm -rf * in user X's home directory.
Yeah, that's why the house analogy is so poor for an IDS.
Consider a university where most students' UNIX sessions look like this:
1. Run pine. Log out. 2. Run pine. Log out. 3. Run pine. Log out. 4-98. Run pine. Log out. 99. Run pine. Log out. 100. Run lynx. Download password sniffer. Attempt to unpack and install sniffer. Run newsreader. Solicit help from newsgroup. Etc etc.
Because the 100th session is so different from the first 99, it will trigger a red flag. This does NOT mean that the security team will show up if you ever do something you haven't done before. This is just one indication of deviant behavior, and administrators have the option to investigate further based on it. No competent sysadmin would start busting his users based solely on the conclusions that his IDS gives him.
An IDS that tracks your usage patterns is not intended to replace passwords; it is intended to supplement them. Once you're in your house, to continue your analogy, there are certain things you do and certain ways in which you do them. For example, let's say you have cable television but you never watch Fox News. If someone who used your key comes into your living room and watches the Fox News channel for hours on end, that's a red flag.
Red flags do not trigger an immediate lockdown. They just suggest to an administrator that someone may be behaving in a way that you wouldn't, and that further investigation may be warranted.
IDSes are a great way to supplement the absolute uselessness of passwords, as long as administrators know how to use them effectively.
Depending on which Google machine served your search results, you sometimes get tracking URLs. Google uses them to keep tabs on what people find most useful in the search results, and they're a great way to get rid of search engine optimizers that flood listings with PageRank-friendly but useless links.
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And the very first sentence is "If you believe comments in discussion boards and blogs across the Internet, search giant Google is developing an instant messaging initiative." (Emphasis mine.)
If you believe credible journalists and official statements from Google, no such initiative has ever been announced.
Nevertheless, it would be pretty cool to see Google Messenger BETA sometime soon. If they could tie it in with GMail BETA, they could really make an awesome conversation search engine BETA.
Bullshit. PayPal hasn't been "beta" for years, yet they are courteous enough to inform me when they change the terms of their User Agreement. If I don't agree to the terms of the new User Agreement, I have the option to terminate my account at any time.
Beta is all about deflecting criticism of Google products. GMail doesn't support IMAP? Well, it's in beta! Froogle can be easily exploited to report deceptively low prices -- that's in beta too! Google News often displays stories as 'related' when they have nothing in common, but that's in beta. It just goes on and on. People have very high expectations of Google, but Google hasn't released a new product since Google Groups (and that's been replaced by Google Groups 2, which is a sharply-criticized beta).
Camino is better than both.
It lacks the "Mozilla in Mac OS X clothing" look of Firefox, instead using Cocoa for the front-end and Gecko for rendering. The resultant program is fast, good-looking, and feels like a native application instead of a XUL executable.
Even though it's only at 0.8b (thus putting it at the same code maturity level as most Google services) it has become my default browser in OS X.
The only caveat is that it doesn't support any of the fancy extensions that Firefox does, but I'd rather look at ads than at Firefox for Mac.
The name suggests so, and the Longhorns' "Hook 'em Horns" salute is sometimes construed as a Satanic gesture, so that would put Microsoft just two degrees away from Satan.
Sounds about par for the course as far as juvenile Microsoft-hating goes here at Slashdot.
Dude, you would have to spend at least $1000 dollars to get a good-sized RAID Array. For that price, you could buy a whole PC computer with an HDD drive large enough to store the movie fear.com !
Good. Then I don't trust Google News, the new Google Groups, Gmail, or Google Maps. The next time someone suggests I use them, I will forego them in favor of competing services that are complete.
Don't forget Orkut, a lousy Friendster/Tribe clone which is Brazil's #1 source of server errors.
Orkut is only "in affiliation with Google," but Google mentioned it in a presentation to prospective shareholders, so it's fair game.
Saying something is "beta" is a great way to get out of providing any guarantees or support. If you're going to change something, at least have the balls to say "we changed it" instead of "well, it's beta; it might change at any time."
I was also under the impression that a "beta" was a limited testing period. I find it hard to confide in companies like ICQ and Google that keep their products in perpetual beta without any word on when (or if) they'll ever be finished.
If a beta is as good as we can get, then the whole web application market still needs a swift kick in its over-sat ass.
Knowing Google, it will be in beta for years. People will insist that it's the best, even though it's in beta and how dare you criticize a beta product.
How can you be so sure they'll "expand its scope in the future"? Google News has stayed the same for three years without any customizability or flexibility (I want info on MY sports teams, not the world's most popular teams).
Oh crap. I just criticized a Google service. Better bring on the lies about how beta is a legally-binding term, and that it's good for Google to never release anything as a final version.
Good idea. Sell a UNIX-like OS for a huge markup, and charge a lot for the hardware on which it runs.
You just invented Apple Computer, circa 2005.
Do you really want Linux to be seen as a bargain-basement option for personal computing? These computers are cheap -- not just inexpensive, but cheap.
Right now in the consumer marketplace, Linux feels like the equivalent of those racks of $5 shareware you see at CompUSA. I don't think that product placement at Wal-Mart will do any good, especially with Slashdot users coming up and getting absolutely no support from the Wal-Mart salespeople in the stores.
In Aqua Teen Hunger Force: The Restaurant, would you make Baffler Meals at Burger Trench?
On my PowerBook G4, which I bought in May and hadn't been superseded until last week, it's in Macintosh HD: Applications (OS 9): Netscape Communicator.
I'd send you a screen shot, but I deleted all the OS 9 apps right after I got the machine.
Oh, damn. I forgot about that.
Let the submit button arms race begin!
"Google" as a verb is in the same lexicon as "metrosexual," "blog," "red state," etc. It's trendy.
In five years when we're all using a different search engine, "Google It" will sound just as timely as "your on-ramp to the information superhighway."
Netscape 4 was the worst browser ever shipped by any company, ever. I cringe every time I see it still installed on a computer. (Did you know that Apple still bundles the Mac OS 9 version on PowerBooks?!)
I would much rather have IE4 than Netscape 4, security holes be damned.
And Google has "practically the exact same interface" as Yahoo and Altavista did before their conversion to portals. Incidentially, all the major search engines offer toolbars, browser plugins, and minimalist web pages with a search box.
The user interface for search is a text box with a submit button. Google did not invent it, and Google cannot lay claim to having "innovated it."
An IDS is not a magic bullet. Many users generate a very simple profile based on what they do; for them, it's easy to tell when their account has been compromised. For the super-paranoid techie users that choose 42-random-character passwords and encrypt everything with 2048-bit keys, an IDS probably won't generate too many red flags that administrators will need to act on.
Consider the standard-deviation method of determining outliers. If you have a totally random sample, the standard deviation is huge. If you have totally random behavior when you use a computer, an IDS won't be able to determine when something is up.
I'm terribly sorry that you are so adamantly opposed to a program that you've never used. I especially liked the part where you claimed you would be "locked out of the system ... because [you] ... crossed some arbitrary threshold" when I clearly stated that IDSes are "not intended to replace passwords" and that using an IDS "does NOT mean that the security team will show up if you ever do something you haven't done before." more than two hours before you posted your verbose little diatribe.
In the future, I will be sure to ask you for your approval on any software product I plan to develop. If it's not good enough for you, it's obviously not worth developing.
It's the same password I use everywhere else, of course.
Besides, you've got a user ID that's more than five times cooler than mine. There's no use in stealing mine.
True, but that (stealing) is actually destructive behavior. IDSes that use this adaptive technology are not meant to prevent destructive behavior; they are meant to prevent malfeasant behavior. If you have someone who logs in as user X and pretends to be user X, that is much worse than if you have someone who logs in as user X and runs rm -rf * in user X's home directory.
Yeah, that's why the house analogy is so poor for an IDS.
Consider a university where most students' UNIX sessions look like this:
1. Run pine. Log out.
2. Run pine. Log out.
3. Run pine. Log out.
4-98. Run pine. Log out.
99. Run pine. Log out.
100. Run lynx. Download password sniffer. Attempt to unpack and install sniffer. Run newsreader. Solicit help from newsgroup. Etc etc.
Because the 100th session is so different from the first 99, it will trigger a red flag. This does NOT mean that the security team will show up if you ever do something you haven't done before. This is just one indication of deviant behavior, and administrators have the option to investigate further based on it. No competent sysadmin would start busting his users based solely on the conclusions that his IDS gives him.
An IDS that tracks your usage patterns is not intended to replace passwords; it is intended to supplement them. Once you're in your house, to continue your analogy, there are certain things you do and certain ways in which you do them. For example, let's say you have cable television but you never watch Fox News. If someone who used your key comes into your living room and watches the Fox News channel for hours on end, that's a red flag.
Red flags do not trigger an immediate lockdown. They just suggest to an administrator that someone may be behaving in a way that you wouldn't, and that further investigation may be warranted.
IDSes are a great way to supplement the absolute uselessness of passwords, as long as administrators know how to use them effectively.
Depending on which Google machine served your search results, you sometimes get tracking URLs. Google uses them to keep tabs on what people find most useful in the search results, and they're a great way to get rid of search engine optimizers that flood listings with PageRank-friendly but useless links.