I still think that the operating system is one of the most important pieces of the system.
Yes, you can train people almost anything, but we should lower the learning curve. This is what I think the article is getting at.
Btw... i dont like your metaphor. I see it more like this: OS = road/highway App = Car
The road is an important part of driving most of the time. Unless you're off-roading, then you dont care what the road is like. (Off-roading ~= allowing users to not touch the os in the background. Then the OS doesn't become as important to the user as the actual application)
the stupid plug and play monitor issue. (You know how windows automatically detects the proper settings for a monitor)
This is one of the most annoying things ever. I'm running 800x600 with something like 30khz x 50! hz!!! It flickers like crazy. My head hurts after looking at it for an hour. (This is why I now prefer the console;)) This is even after I tuned it a bit.
I did a little research on this and "Plug and Play" is actually a well defined IEEE/VESA standard. I looked it up on their site and the docs on the spec were pretty expensive (like 300+) .
This is enought to stop many little guys from creating portable mp3 players and market them. Although a suit may not hold up in court, the threat alone is enough.
I also dont like it since it's vague and all encompassing. I understand being able to patent a protocol or codec, but you can't just patent a whole realm of devices by simply creating a simple device and claiming the whole. It just isnt right.
And the whole deal about "solid state": in recent/. articles they have mentioned solid state ram. So that gets dragged into it too?
The term "specialized" is way too vague.
So if you put the linux kernel into your mp3 player (there are some) then is it specialized? If you can use it as a part time webserver, is it "specialized"? How bout if it can be added to the network as a freenet node? "Specialized" ??
You see an important place for government and are willing to give up to it unconditionally, i suppose? The "disease" you describe is wrong. Governments are not the "disease". They become diseased after time. Then the corrode and die. (Unfortunately, people get caught up in the corrosion and get hurt.) They/. ers that u describe are against this disease because they know this. In a way, MS follows the same metaphor. Once it was strong. It had it's place. Now it's corroding in it's own complacency. And the/.er is in the same spot, fighting the corrosion.
>"Soon the repubs will run this country to the >ground with their isolationism and > anti-social(istic) efforts" This is incorrect/ up to debate. Isolationalism has never been a major mark of the republican. It has occured once in a while in some individuals. Modern republicans tend to view the world as a big place with many opportunities to make $$:)
By "anti-social efforts": are you talking about socialism and the typical republican, democratic, response to it? Or are you talking about the conservative response to the liberal form of socialism? This is a completely different subject which i dont wanna get into.
As a final note, you mention the "grand individual and their right to non-intereference" with a negative tone. Are you an american citizen? Cuz this has historically been one of the key "American" ideals since the very beginning of the american state.
i'm working on an open source chat program (ala aim, icq) and plan to implement crypto enveloping of messages in the us version. This project is still somewhere in alpha though so it may be a while
Plus, I dont like the idea of paying for someone else. In this scheme someone who wants to leech off the good nature of others can do it legally. He just sits back and waits till the software gets paid off. Today, he has to steal it. At least this way there's a little guilt involved:)
Linux wont compete as well in China since once of it's key features is being free. In China so is Windows 95/98/2000. (practically)
And the fact that most people dont have the hacking ability to make linux work properly makes Linux less likely to gain widespread support.
It may gain support in the government/university areas, though, like all over the world.
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>We need a neutral organization that honors the >'first come, first served' principle when it >comes to trademark disputes (as we all know > that a domain name != trademark).
On the contrary: domain name = trademark when it comes to.coms and it always should be. Otherwise you'll get a bunch of ripoffs that use big names to provide you with porn ads.
>We need cheaper domain registation fees. agreed.
>We need the main database to be behind a >highly secure and highly private wall so that >info cannot be accessed or sold. If you want an "open source" solution to this, I dont think this model will work. The only viable model is something similar to Usenet: Every isp has it's own dns server. There's a network of trusts in which a dns server can submit a new dns like newsposts are done now.
Centralized models imply big corporate backers with the money to hold up the system, which usually means that it's not open source or free.
This guy (like many other ZD articles) makes so many assumptions about sofware (providing very little *technical* evidence) that it's not even relevant.
His biggest mistake is Old ~= obsolete. (As many others have pointed out) Lemme add my $0.02: In the 50's (a decade behind what this guy says linux is in), entropy coding was created. (Huffman) AFAIK, Huffman is used in modern formats such as JPEG and many other codecs. It works well and time doesn't change that.
A threat - any threat, no matter how remote - is enough to drive people into action.
When there's a rumor that a certain type of food could *potentially* cause you cancer, it's like a little rock in your shoe that keeps bugging you. You try to avoid that food, even though it's most likely an irrational fear. The same analogy applies to corporations and new technology.
I've always been a fan of TJ and I think he's right here. But I also think that we've mislabeled software as "Intellectual Property." Software should simply be property whereas TJ sounds like he's talking about "ideas" or what we now have as patented ideas such at certain cyphers. (RSA, ect) With patented ideas, we're not *directly* diminishing the holder's value by using it - we're diminishing his ability to make money on it. If you view it solely in economic terms, then yes, you are taking away profits from him.
By this logic and TJ's logic, all patented ideas should be free for noncommercial use. I think the open source community and thus the world would benefit greatly if the laws were changed in favor of this.
Patents have a life span of 20 years, no? I wouldn't mind trading an unlimited life span for the ability to use the idea for noncommercial use. (But in case ms and other companies try to release stuff for "free" with patents, I suggest we kill the loophole by making it nonprofit orgs and individuals only)
This is what we need to bring Linux to those that aren't even bright enough to use Winbloze.
I personally like the idea since it's intuitive and makes use of that 3d card (since Im not much of a gamer). This will eventually come into play anyways (since they're already working on 3d displays and input devices) so why dont we get a jump on this area of computing?
So why not guys? The first step would be a 3d version of XFree which maps 2d to 3d and a routine that maps the 2d mouse onto the top window and it's respective coordinate. This doesn't seem to far fetched since we've been doing it in so many games.
Someone already said, "if you give them enough rope, they'll hang themselves."
True, no IT pro will risk their jobs with software that can be yanked at any time, no matter how much adobe and ms say the bill will help the customer. Since when did they put the customer before themselves and their image?
In addition to problems already mentioned, what happens when you put a back door into a piece of sw? Once a hacker/cracker reverse engineers that back door and this knowledge spreads, you cant really rely on that program at all.
>Security is generally lax because there aren't >people who'd steal film solely to keep as a >trophy.
Yes, but now with vcd's emerging, this will happen more frequently. There's incentive to steal one, rip it to mpg, and distribute it all over china at 2 bucks a cd. Since the rules there are lax, you could probably make 2 bucks a copy (2 cds).
If they license their API to companies that agree to exclude players from playing MP3, an established format, they'll do themselves a great marketing injustice.
Who wants to take up a new format if the old one works?? Sure, they can put all their artists behind it, but pirates will just use their format to make MP3s easily and destroy their whole scheme.
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That's why I believe we should change the desktop metaphor to the room metaphor.
/var/spool/mail/user"
;)
#include "argument_for_3d_XFree"
like when you get email... instead of:
"you have mail in
a 3d rendered dog runs up to you with a message in it's mouth, barking (optional)
or
the mailman knocks on your door.
Real life metaphors like these will kill the learning cuve and make good use of those powerful 3d cards
I still think that the operating system is one of the most important pieces of the system.
Yes, you can train people almost anything, but we should lower the learning curve. This is what I think the article is getting at.
Btw... i dont like your metaphor. I see it more like this:
OS = road/highway
App = Car
The road is an important part of driving most of the time. Unless you're off-roading, then you dont care what the road is like. (Off-roading ~= allowing users to not touch the os in the background. Then the OS doesn't become as important to the user as the actual application)
But most of the time the OS is very important.
the stupid plug and play monitor issue. (You know how windows automatically detects the proper settings for a monitor)
;)) This is even after I tuned it a bit.
This is one of the most annoying things ever.
I'm running 800x600 with something like 30khz x 50! hz!!! It flickers like crazy. My head hurts after looking at it for an hour. (This is why I now prefer the console
I did a little research on this and "Plug and Play" is actually a well defined IEEE/VESA standard. I looked it up on their site and the docs on the spec were pretty expensive (like 300+) .
Is this going to get addressed in XFree 4.0??
backwards compatible.
;)
just it isnt going to do a great job at it.
so just recompile everything for it
This is enought to stop many little guys from creating portable mp3 players and market them. Although a suit may not hold up in court, the threat alone is enough.
/. articles they have mentioned solid state ram. So that gets dragged into it too?
I also dont like it since it's vague and all encompassing. I understand being able to patent a protocol or codec, but you can't just patent a whole realm of devices by simply creating a simple device and claiming the whole. It just isnt right.
And the whole deal about "solid state": in recent
The term "specialized" is way too vague.
So if you put the linux kernel into your mp3 player (there are some) then is it specialized?
If you can use it as a part time webserver, is it "specialized"? How bout if it can be added to the network as a freenet node? "Specialized" ??
My $0.02.
You see an important place for government and are willing to give up to it unconditionally, i suppose? The "disease" you describe is wrong. Governments are not the "disease". They become diseased after time. Then the corrode and die. /. ers that u describe are against this disease because they know this. In a way, MS follows the same metaphor. Once it was strong. It had it's place. Now it's corroding in it's own complacency. And the /.er is in the same spot, fighting the corrosion.
:)
(Unfortunately, people get caught up in the corrosion and get hurt.)
They
>"Soon the repubs will run this country to the
>ground with their isolationism and
> anti-social(istic) efforts"
This is incorrect/ up to debate. Isolationalism has never been a major mark of the republican. It has occured once in a while in some individuals.
Modern republicans tend to view the world as a big place with many opportunities to make $$
By "anti-social efforts": are you talking about socialism and the typical republican, democratic, response to it? Or are you talking about the conservative response to the liberal form of socialism? This is a completely different subject which i dont wanna get into.
As a final note, you mention the "grand individual and their right to non-intereference" with a negative tone. Are you an american citizen? Cuz this has historically been one of the key "American" ideals since the very beginning of the american state.
my 2 cents.
i'm working on an open source chat program (ala aim, icq) and plan to implement crypto enveloping of messages in the us version. This project is still somewhere in alpha though so it may be a while
Plus, I dont like the idea of paying for someone else. In this scheme someone who wants to leech off the good nature of others can do it legally. He just sits back and waits till the software gets paid off. Today, he has to steal it. At least this way there's a little guilt involved :)
Linux wont compete as well in China since once of it's key features is being free. In China so is Windows 95/98/2000. (practically)
And the fact that most people dont have the hacking ability to make linux work properly makes Linux less likely to gain widespread support.
It may gain support in the government/university areas, though, like all over the world.
>We need a neutral organization that honors the >'first come, first served' principle when it >comes to trademark disputes (as we all know > that a domain name != trademark).
.coms and it always should be. Otherwise you'll get a bunch of ripoffs that use big names to provide you with porn ads.
On the contrary:
domain name = trademark when it comes to
>We need cheaper domain registation fees.
agreed.
>We need the main database to be behind a >highly secure and highly private wall so that
>info cannot be accessed or sold.
If you want an "open source" solution to this, I dont think this model will work. The only viable model is something similar to Usenet:
Every isp has it's own dns server. There's a network of trusts in which a dns server can submit a new dns like newsposts are done now.
Centralized models imply big corporate backers with the money to hold up the system, which usually means that it's not open source or free.
This guy (like many other ZD articles) makes so many assumptions about sofware (providing very little *technical* evidence) that it's not even relevant.
His biggest mistake is Old ~= obsolete. (As many others have pointed out)
Lemme add my $0.02: In the 50's (a decade behind what this guy says linux is in), entropy coding was created. (Huffman) AFAIK, Huffman is used in modern formats such as JPEG and many other codecs.
It works well and time doesn't change that.
Old != Obsolete
Just get rid of the '.'s and make the lower numbers three digit!
:)
So kernel 2.2.10 => 2002010 !!!
or 2,002,010 if you think it's more readable.
Big enough, MS?
it's a clarification that works well for me
A threat - any threat, no matter how remote - is enough to drive people into action.
When there's a rumor that a certain type of food could *potentially* cause you cancer, it's like a little rock in your shoe that keeps bugging you. You try to avoid that food, even though it's most likely an irrational fear. The same analogy applies to corporations and new technology.
iirc, phracker = phreaker + hacker
phreaker being someone who messes with phone equipment/ect
and hacker as it's know in the mainstream
Have you ever coded for 19 hours straight (no drugs)? Have you felt the decay your body goes through after one of these?? :)
:)
this is a big hazard for many hard core code hackers
Cant we help them get around their government filters through tunneling?
Just a thought
Everyday I goto Slashdot, freshmeat, arstechnica.
:)
hmm.... maybe that's why I'm so screwed up
I've always been a fan of TJ and I think he's right here. But I also think that we've mislabeled software as "Intellectual Property."
:)
Software should simply be property whereas TJ sounds like he's talking about "ideas" or what we now have as patented ideas such at certain cyphers. (RSA, ect) With patented ideas, we're not *directly* diminishing the holder's value by using it - we're diminishing his ability to make money on it. If you view it solely in economic terms, then yes, you are taking away profits from him.
By this logic and TJ's logic, all patented ideas should be free for noncommercial use. I think the open source community and thus the world would benefit greatly if the laws were changed in favor of this.
Patents have a life span of 20 years, no? I wouldn't mind trading an unlimited life span for the ability to use the idea for noncommercial use.
(But in case ms and other companies try to release stuff for "free" with patents, I suggest we kill the loophole by making it nonprofit orgs and individuals only)
Write your senator guys!!
This is what we need to bring Linux to those that aren't even bright enough to use Winbloze.
I personally like the idea since it's intuitive and makes use of that 3d card (since Im not much of a gamer). This will eventually come into play anyways (since they're already working on 3d displays and input devices) so why dont we get a jump on this area of computing?
So why not guys? The first step would be a 3d version of XFree which maps 2d to 3d and a routine that maps the 2d mouse onto the top window and it's respective coordinate. This doesn't seem to far fetched since we've been doing it in so many games.
Someone already said, "if you give them enough rope, they'll hang themselves."
True, no IT pro will risk their jobs with software that can be yanked at any time, no matter how much adobe and ms say the bill will help the customer.
Since when did they put the customer before themselves and their image?
In addition to problems already mentioned, what happens when you put a back door into a piece of sw?
Once a hacker/cracker reverse engineers that back door and this knowledge spreads, you cant really rely on that program at all.
>Security is generally lax because there aren't >people who'd steal film solely to keep as a >trophy.
Yes, but now with vcd's emerging, this will happen more frequently. There's incentive to steal one, rip it to mpg, and distribute it all over china at 2 bucks a cd. Since the rules there are lax, you could probably make 2 bucks a copy (2 cds).
If they license their API to companies that agree to exclude players from playing MP3, an established format, they'll do themselves a great marketing injustice.
Who wants to take up a new format if the old one works?? Sure, they can put all their artists behind it, but pirates will just use their format to make MP3s easily and destroy their whole scheme.
Aren't they just protecting themselves by covering all the bases?
:)
They're selling NT graphics workstations cuz they fear that NT will take over... now they fear (rightfully) that Linux will kill NT
Meanwhile SGI's going down the tubes. From a corportate standpoint, they haven't been doing so well.