After they acquired Ximian they talked about keeping Ximian together and their products still being worked on.
The Ximian hackers are still together. As a matter of fact, they moved into some really nice new offices in Cambridge from Boston. They are still doing what they do best.
Evolution: 2.0 is due out this year. It's awesome. It required a ton of work and most of the people who did 1.0 are doing 2.0, they're still there.
Ximian Desktop: Wait and see for this one. You'll see.
Connector: GPL'd. This surely isn't a bad thing from the open source community's point of view, is it?
Yes, maybe some of the branding is gone and the name Ximian isn't used as much, but it doesn't mean Ximian is dead. Far from it.
I heard about this on IRC and it worked! Go into Nautilus and load a directory in the list view. I think you hit Control F, however I don't remember the keybinding exactly. A small input box will appear at the bottom right of the window. Start typing and it will act as the autosearch in emacs/Mozilla. This works in any ListView in GNOME.
I am a student at Northern Michigan University. We have had a similar such program for the past 4 or 5 years. The school distributes IBM ThinkPads too all professors and students with 12 or more credit hours during a semester. It's really not a bad program. It has a few pitfalls though:
The laptops they hand out are the low end models. I am using an iSeries laptop, which is not the prettiest machine I've used in my life. They have recuring problems.
The tech support on campus tends to be run by students who don't know what they're talking about. The people who do the repairs are focused on making the school a profit (obviously) thus give hassles for repairs. I know this isn't that different than how real tech support is, but if the school is going to force you to have a laptop, they should provide quality tech support too.
It becomes hard to pay attention in dull classes when I am able to hack;)
All in all though, it's a good program that I commend the University of Florida for taking up. Now only if I got an iBook instead of the ThinkPad:)
Second, Red Hat provides "priority downloads" with the Red Hat Network, so you can download packages from Red Hat faster. Ximian on the other hand, offers Red Carpet Express to help speed up Red Carpet downloads.
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KOffice — Runs on qt
StarOffice — Closed source.
GnomeOffice — Okay, by saying this, you're proving your lack of knowledge. Gnumeric _is_ part of GnomeOffice!
ApplixWare — Closed source
Corels Office Suite — Not supported anymore, is it?
What I'm getting at is a couple items. First off, Gnumeric has been around longer than a lot of them. If you read the release announcement which was _just_ sent, you'd learn that Gnumeric has been around for 3.5 years. Second, it's _the_ spreadsheet program which didn't have a history of non-GPL issues. KSpread is relativly new. And anyways, that has the history with qt not being GPL compliant.
Anyways, if you look at Gnumeric, it's one of the more mature of the spreadsheet applications.
if the package is not on Ximian Red-Carpet servers (like, umm, KDE packages), you're (again) on your own.
This is a fallacy. Red Carpet also has channels for the distribution you're on. For example, I loaded up the RH7.1 channel, and saw that I could install kdepim from there, straight from Red Carpet.
"Chanc_Grokon wrote to us with the press release from Ximian about the monthly charges for Red Carpet, their installer. He also raises the "Why not just use apt-get?" point."
Ximian's charges for Red Carpet aren't mandatory. They give users who are willing to pay for it much better bandwidth. Don't want to pay? That's cool. You don't need to. Just use the free service, and you'll be fine!
Think about this bill for a second. CmdrTaco, I understand your email is 30-40% spam. I sympathize. However, but passing these bills, you're opening the gates for the government to pass other internet restrictions.
Think about what you're doing first.
Votezone.com already have this moda aeration system, at least something down the same line as it. Basically what you have, is a certain rank. You can vote on software, write reviews, etc. on this site. The rank you have lets you do a higher amount of posting in one day, hand out more merit points, and have your votes on a forum weight more, thus you r score counts more than the basic one. There are also other privilidges which exist, going along with it.
From my experience with CVS releases of Evolution, the file format seems compatible with other applications. I have copied my mbox (very important to me, 2000 some emails), into the Evolution directory so it was in a folder called Read. I loaded Evolution and loaded the Read folder, which displayed that file. It showed my 2000 some emails perfectly. I was able to read some old emails. It even thread them for me (threading isnt properly working totally right now). I haven't taken an Evolution email box and had mutt open it. But let me try that now. When I try to load it, it says "Mailbox is unchanged". I am not totally sure what that means. I will look into this, and possibly pester the developers to make it compatible:)
You bring up a good point,and I would like to use Evolution for remote purposes. However, there are a few things you can do. First off, you can setup remote X sessions so you can have your X server running at work, and use Evolution at home, from work. Second, there are interests for Evolution to have a web front-end that would integrate into Evolution. I could see them doing this really well because it would call wombat, the same stuff which Evolution itself calls. From what I know, there isn't development on this...yet. But I'm sure someone will spare the code. I will switch to Evolution in the future, but I do feel very much the same way that you do about this.
I was looking at the program to import the GTK themes. It's called Legacy Theme Importer. I read the description. It says something down the line of: "...the most common legacy theme is GTK..." We can argue all day about who has better themes, thats not the issue here. The issue is the wording. If anything, you'd think that legacy would be something down the line of KDE1 themes, as they're out of date basically, with the new KDE2 engines. But theres still plenty of GTK themes being created, and it's not out of date. I like both KDE and GNOME, but I don't feel that their wording is appropriate at all. I see it as a subtle insult to GNOME, geared towards new users, to steer them away from GNOME.
"Several girls in the study, as well as Katy and some of her classmates, also criticized the popular computer games for being much more appealing to boys than girls. On Amazon.com, for example, a big seller recently was ``Diablo 2,'' which boasts an ``advanced combat system which incorporates class-specific fighting techniques and spells.''" These "several girls" including Katy, are criticing the gaming industry. The guys run the computer industry and the gaming industry (as this article implies). We rule it, so it makes sense we'll make games that appeal to us. I think the women will need to bite the bullet for now, put up with the bloody games, and get into the industry. By sitting here and crying about the blood, and not doing anything about it, isn't going to help. If the girls sit on their butt, doing what they like to do, then nothing is going to change. We'll make Diablo III and that'll be 2x as bloody as Diablo II. As they say in the open source community: "If you want a feature, write it".
Okay, this is kinda dorky, so please put up with it. But, I think that there is some legitimacy to it. A few years ago, I saw a home improvement where Wilson was telling Tim about why men like cars. Women have the privilidge of child-bearing. They "create" something. Well, us men need to create something too. In the show they used the example of cars. However, for us geeks, this applies. We write programs, put together hardware, make networks, etc. We're creating just like car. I'm not saying this is 100% true, but what Wilson said seems pretty on.
Our biggest hurdle is compatibility. We need to be able to use PowerPoint files, etc. But where are we going to be in 6 months from now?
- Gnumeric has support for loading Excel files.
- Evolution will support calendar collaboration. This way a whole group of people can share a calendar. What would make it even better? If Evolution would read Outlook calendars and share those too.
- I think that StarOffice has some support for the Word format, but I am not too sure.
- Powerpoint competitor? How does KPresenter sound? KPresenter is the KOffice's presentation application...and it isn't half bad actually!
That's just the beginning. I think that in a year from now, we'll be much closer to the Microsoft-free Office.
Isn't there something on Slashdot which says that Slashdot isn't responsible for people's posts? If that's the case, then how can MS go after Slashdot?
Let Metallica go and ban me for trading one song. I downloaded I Disappear. Why? Because it wasn't out on the radio, but I wanted to hear it. But good god, I must be making them lose money. Yeah, that's why I own every album between Kill 'Em All through (The Never...sorry bad pun) through S&M. I even bought their boxed set and own every video they put out. Toss in a dozen or so t-shirts, posters, three concerts, and other miscellanious paraphanalia. Yeah...I'd have to say that I should be banned .
My friend has a friend who is a security expert. This guy has written MANY exploits for many programs. A few weeks ago my friend came up to me and said that his friend found a backdoor in IIS and that he was working on an exploit for it. I'd make a bet this is it. From what it sounded like, this wasn't NSA but made for more Microsoft access. Yeah, I think it's just IIS.
up2date is a little Red Hat program which will contact ftp servers that have their info on it (ftp://ftp.redhat.com/up2date) and upgrade your packages. It'll scan your hard disk for packages you have, then compare them to the latest versions. If there are upgrades available, Netscape loads and lets you download and install the package. It is quite a nice program though. Only complaint...they should have more apps that can be upgraded by up2date.
My dad pays on-line bills through the bank. From what I know, he gets the bill through snail-mail, pays it on his computer and then it goes through the bank. I'm not totally sure. From what I can tell, it seems to be pretty nice. Except for one thing. He screwed up on something and he has had a hard time getting the check void'd or something like that. It's a big pain in the ass that will exist for a while I think. From that, it's a nice little thing. Convenicnce more than anything. But if you get into trouble, then you maybe in trouble.
I would like to make the comment that Netscape 6 is going beta in 25 days, not Mozilla. They are similar, but aren't the same. Mozilla still has a while to go before it hits beta (my guess). It's Netscape, not Mozilla!!! Anyone can release anything based on Mozilla and call it what they want, thus the case with Netscape.
I would like to comment that you probably won't be seeing Gecko as the Konqueror engine, at least for KDE2. From what I remember, kdelibs is due to go down as feature freeze at the end of this month. They may not be able to get engine switching going on in a week or two. All the more power to them if they do. But they currently have rewritten khtml again for Konqueror. It would be nice to see engine switching in KDE2, but I wouldn't put too much cash on it. If anyone wants to prove me wrong, all the more to you as well.
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SIP is supported in CallManager 5.0. Then again, the licensing for CM5.0 is pretty horrable.
After they acquired Ximian they talked about keeping Ximian together and their products still being worked on.
The Ximian hackers are still together. As a matter of fact, they moved into some really nice new offices in Cambridge from Boston. They are still doing what they do best.
Evolution: 2.0 is due out this year. It's awesome. It required a ton of work and most of the people who did 1.0 are doing 2.0, they're still there.
Ximian Desktop: Wait and see for this one. You'll see.
Connector: GPL'd. This surely isn't a bad thing from the open source community's point of view, is it?
Yes, maybe some of the branding is gone and the name Ximian isn't used as much, but it doesn't mean Ximian is dead. Far from it.
I heard about this on IRC and it worked! Go into Nautilus and load a directory in the list view. I think you hit Control F, however I don't remember the keybinding exactly. A small input box will appear at the bottom right of the window. Start typing and it will act as the autosearch in emacs/Mozilla. This works in any ListView in GNOME.
it's going to be based on The Hobbit. My lord, you ever read it? There's enough songs in there to make a musical.
All in all though, it's a good program that I commend the University of Florida for taking up. Now only if I got an iBook instead of the ThinkPad
Ximian and Red Hat, in some ways, are competitors on two fronts.
First, Red Hat provides the Red Hat Network which is a competitor to Ximian's Red Carpet CorporateConnect.
Second, Red Hat provides "priority downloads" with the Red Hat Network, so you can download packages from Red Hat faster. Ximian on the other hand, offers Red Carpet Express to help speed up Red Carpet downloads.
- KOffice — Runs on qt
- StarOffice — Closed source.
- GnomeOffice — Okay, by saying this, you're proving your lack of knowledge. Gnumeric _is_ part of GnomeOffice!
- ApplixWare — Closed source
- Corels Office Suite — Not supported anymore, is it?
What I'm getting at is a couple items. First off, Gnumeric has been around longer than a lot of them. If you read the release announcement which was _just_ sent, you'd learn that Gnumeric has been around for 3.5 years. Second, it's _the_ spreadsheet program which didn't have a history of non-GPL issues. KSpread is relativly new. And anyways, that has the history with qt not being GPL compliant. Anyways, if you look at Gnumeric, it's one of the more mature of the spreadsheet applications.if the package is not on Ximian Red-Carpet servers (like, umm, KDE packages), you're (again) on your own.
This is a fallacy. Red Carpet also has channels for the distribution you're on. For example, I loaded up the RH7.1 channel, and saw that I could install kdepim from there, straight from Red Carpet.
"Chanc_Grokon wrote to us with the press release from Ximian about the monthly charges for Red Carpet, their installer. He also raises the "Why not just use apt-get?" point."
Ximian's charges for Red Carpet aren't mandatory. They give users who are willing to pay for it much better bandwidth. Don't want to pay? That's cool. You don't need to. Just use the free service, and you'll be fine!
Think about this bill for a second. CmdrTaco, I understand your email is 30-40% spam. I sympathize. However, but passing these bills, you're opening the gates for the government to pass other internet restrictions. Think about what you're doing first.
Votezone.com already have this moda aeration system, at least something down the same line as it. Basically what you have, is a certain rank. You can vote on software, write reviews, etc. on this site. The rank you have lets you do a higher amount of posting in one day, hand out more merit points, and have your votes on a forum weight more, thus you r score counts more than the basic one. There are also other privilidges which exist, going along with it.
You should have also mentioned Jabber which is a GPL'd protocol and has transports to ICQ, AIM, and Yahoo is being written as I type this.
From my experience with CVS releases of Evolution, the file format seems compatible with other applications. I have copied my mbox (very important to me, 2000 some emails), into the Evolution directory so it was in a folder called Read. I loaded Evolution and loaded the Read folder, which displayed that file. It showed my 2000 some emails perfectly. I was able to read some old emails. It even thread them for me (threading isnt properly working totally right now). I haven't taken an Evolution email box and had mutt open it. But let me try that now. When I try to load it, it says "Mailbox is unchanged". I am not totally sure what that means. I will look into this, and possibly pester the developers to make it compatible :)
You bring up a good point,and I would like to use Evolution for remote purposes. However, there are a few things you can do.
First off, you can setup remote X sessions so you can have your X server running at work, and use Evolution at home, from work.
Second, there are interests for Evolution to have a web front-end that would integrate into Evolution. I could see them doing this really well because it would call wombat, the same stuff which Evolution itself calls. From what I know, there isn't development on this...yet. But I'm sure someone will spare the code.
I will switch to Evolution in the future, but I do feel very much the same way that you do about this.
I was looking at the program to import the GTK themes. It's called Legacy Theme Importer. I read the description. It says something down the line of:
"...the most common legacy theme is GTK..."
We can argue all day about who has better themes, thats not the issue here. The issue is the wording. If anything, you'd think that legacy would be something down the line of KDE1 themes, as they're out of date basically, with the new KDE2 engines. But theres still plenty of GTK themes being created, and it's not out of date. I like both KDE and GNOME, but I don't feel that their wording is appropriate at all. I see it as a subtle insult to GNOME, geared towards new users, to steer them away from GNOME.
"Several girls in the study, as well as Katy and some of her classmates, also criticized the popular computer games for being much more appealing to boys than girls. On Amazon.com, for example, a big seller recently was ``Diablo 2,'' which boasts an ``advanced combat system which incorporates class-specific fighting techniques and spells.''"
These "several girls" including Katy, are criticing the gaming industry. The guys run the computer industry and the gaming industry (as this article implies). We rule it, so it makes sense we'll make games that appeal to us. I think the women will need to bite the bullet for now, put up with the bloody games, and get into the industry. By sitting here and crying about the blood, and not doing anything about it, isn't going to help. If the girls sit on their butt, doing what they like to do, then nothing is going to change. We'll make Diablo III and that'll be 2x as bloody as Diablo II. As they say in the open source community: "If you want a feature, write it".
Okay, this is kinda dorky, so please put up with it. But, I think that there is some legitimacy to it. A few years ago, I saw a home improvement where Wilson was telling Tim about why men like cars. Women have the privilidge of child-bearing. They "create" something. Well, us men need to create something too. In the show they used the example of cars. However, for us geeks, this applies. We write programs, put together hardware, make networks, etc. We're creating just like car. I'm not saying this is 100% true, but what Wilson said seems pretty on.
Our biggest hurdle is compatibility. We need to be able to use PowerPoint files, etc. But where are we going to be in 6 months from now?
- Gnumeric has support for loading Excel files.
- Evolution will support calendar collaboration. This way a whole group of people can share a calendar. What would make it even better? If Evolution would read Outlook calendars and share those too.
- I think that StarOffice has some support for the Word format, but I am not too sure.
- Powerpoint competitor? How does KPresenter sound? KPresenter is the KOffice's presentation application...and it isn't half bad actually!
That's just the beginning. I think that in a year from now, we'll be much closer to the Microsoft-free Office.
Isn't there something on Slashdot which says that Slashdot isn't responsible for people's posts? If that's the case, then how can MS go after Slashdot?
Let Metallica go and ban me for trading one song. I downloaded I Disappear. Why? Because it wasn't out on the radio, but I wanted to hear it. But good god, I must be making them lose money. Yeah, that's why I own every album between Kill 'Em All through (The Never...sorry bad pun) through S&M. I even bought their boxed set and own every video they put out. Toss in a dozen or so t-shirts, posters, three concerts, and other miscellanious paraphanalia. Yeah...I'd have to say that I should be banned .
My friend has a friend who is a security expert. This guy has written MANY exploits for many programs. A few weeks ago my friend came up to me and said that his friend found a backdoor in IIS and that he was working on an exploit for it. I'd make a bet this is it. From what it sounded like, this wasn't NSA but made for more Microsoft access. Yeah, I think it's just IIS.
up2date is a little Red Hat program which will contact ftp servers that have their info on it (ftp://ftp.redhat.com/up2date) and upgrade your packages. It'll scan your hard disk for packages you have, then compare them to the latest versions. If there are upgrades available, Netscape loads and lets you download and install the package. It is quite a nice program though. Only complaint...they should have more apps that can be upgraded by up2date.
My dad pays on-line bills through the bank. From what I know, he gets the bill through snail-mail, pays it on his computer and then it goes through the bank. I'm not totally sure.
From what I can tell, it seems to be pretty nice. Except for one thing. He screwed up on something and he has had a hard time getting the check void'd or something like that. It's a big pain in the ass that will exist for a while I think.
From that, it's a nice little thing. Convenicnce more than anything. But if you get into trouble, then you maybe in trouble.
I would like to make the comment that Netscape 6 is going beta in 25 days, not Mozilla. They are similar, but aren't the same. Mozilla still has a while to go before it hits beta (my guess). It's Netscape, not Mozilla!!! Anyone can release anything based on Mozilla and call it what they want, thus the case with Netscape.
I would like to comment that you probably won't be seeing Gecko as the Konqueror engine, at least for KDE2. From what I remember, kdelibs is due to go down as feature freeze at the end of this month. They may not be able to get engine switching going on in a week or two. All the more power to them if they do. But they currently have rewritten khtml again for Konqueror. It would be nice to see engine switching in KDE2, but I wouldn't put too much cash on it. If anyone wants to prove me wrong, all the more to you as well.