Apart from the fact that posting Micro.. specs on this web site and anonymously is cowardly at best, I think that it is a perfect example of how Microsoft uses its monopoly to pervert open standards and ultimately crush them, hence closing the door to any sane competition.
What these Anonymous Cowards should have done was to send the specs and detailed analysis of the situation to the Judge ruling Micro case, and maybe adding suggestion that not only should Micro be blown into pieces. Those pieces must small enough to ensure no portion would ever be able to do that again for the next century at least.
And sorry to add this, but people like Bill Gates and the full Micro senior staff must be targeted more specifically. They are probably worse than any WACO, because they have the monetary power, and have shown no remorse whatsoever regarding the whole thing which essentially means they either are dumb or think the Judge is.
As for all those who tell us about the end of computing if Microsoft fell, remind them of ATT and how the same crap was said about its fall and how calling Paris, London, Wherever is much cheaper today and how everybody is happy about it.
Take the Jehovah Witnesses (is that their name) who come knock on your door on sunday if you are unlucky and really do everything in their power to launch a DOS attack. (Plug in any group you don't care about or like....)
The solution is to not open the door. You look at header and decide not to open door?
Of course they can fool you, put masks and such but what you could do is require of all your visitors to shout their name and if you know it, good if not dump them. This is easily done at home, but at a workplace especially a public one you can't really do that.
What you do instead is check if the people are suspicious and then throw them out. Suspicious depending on situation can be poor-looking....
The question:
Has anyone thought about such things for computers?
Make a list of common properties for being suspicious and simply shut the door?
Of course this list should depend on being at home or at public place, right?
At home, I want to throw anyone I do not explicitly know !
At work, I'd throw anyone who looks suspicious.
Even more, one could set alarm tools. Call the feds if you have something suspicious. Make them check everything is ok? Of course the computer would call, and in the meantime could start aggressively tracking the offender!??
Also, RedHat's list of developers included anyone they could get an address for who wrote one line of code or submitted a bug.
Also, Debian is not supposed to be a corporation or is it now?
Finally, I just wanted to say that this whol;e anti redhat bigotry is tiring.
I do not nor plan to work for RedHat, but I use their software and it is good. Otherwise, I also like the fact that Debian, Slackware, Corel... exist. However I must say, I definitly disliked Debian and all Debian hate propaganda doctors we had here during the RedHat IPO spam or not spam.
That was pure and simple and stupid form of hatred!
Oh and while you are at it, could you finally make that portal of yours. I dream of the day I'll have a my.redhat.com page that makes sense and gives some benefits!
All RedHat users should subscribe to redhat-announce-list@redhat.com. Requests to subscribe go to...list-request of course for all those 100K idiotic sys admins out there!
When something like this happens, in this case a month or more ago, you get to get an email from RedHat and a link you can click on to download the damned patch!
They also have full instructions on how to type rpm -Uvh (how the hell did you install it first time?)
Now, if you people have problems with that, I think you should resign from your jobs and go play nintendo gameboy (not N64).
Also to all the crappy folks out there, run portsentry with commands like 'sentry -atcp', 'sentry -audp'.
As a good sysadmin you could also get nessus and run it once a month on a heavily changed site!
Finally, write those damned cgi scripts correctly!
You seemed incoherent in your message. Talking about Etrade, saying RedHat is innocent, blahblah, then suddenly switch to: I ain't be doing any RedHat rpms, will do them for Mandrake!
I think you should stop taking drugs or something.
Anyway, who cares about what you do? I don't.
However, it was a funny message, in a very stupid way!
I like RedHat because they work. I never liked Mandrake because they made configuration files.
Now Mandrake has been doing what I always said RedHat should do.
GET YOURSELF A DESKTOP DIVISION!
The answer then was, well you know there isn't really any interest in Linux on desktop! No apps etc...
This is an honest warning. IBM did that years ago and got screwed by Microsoft!
You are doing it now and will get screwed by Mandrake! They will have the huge desktop market in 10 years or more with MS, and you will battling crap with SUN!
I wouldn't want RedHat to be SUN, I want RedHat to be ALLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kidding, but it's true that Mandrake is doing what RedHat should have started doing simultaneously with its corporate attack. They should and I still should again and again create a desktop division.
Hey, we have 3 office suites of great quality. 5 commercial games plus other (FINALLY) 3D GNU games. All you need is a usable (not hylafax, not mgetty) fax/voice/data gtk/gnome based software that autoconfigures, and you are ready for SOHo's.
Why are people so blind?
Kuddos Mandrake even though I still don't like you!
A shot in the dark, you have glibc2.1 with RH6.0 and not glibc2.0.
I don't know if it changes things. Try downloading glibc2.0, put it in a separate place like/usr/local/quakelibs/ and issue something like LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/... quake3 or whatver the command is.
I am writing this for all those apocamaniacs out there in the wild.
IF ANYONE CREATES A BLACKHOLE ON EARTH, the time it will take your brains to recognize it as such, eg:
Time for signal to go from eye to brain, or another type of sense.
will be longer than the time it will take the black hole to squeeze you and me and a lot of other things around us, until we are no longer bigger than nothing!
So rest at peace, your death and ours will be swift.
Now let's get serious, I was just wondering that maybe we ought to ask them to use NT to run the experiments!
At its crash rate, no black hole can ever form and swallow us ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe even (just to make sure), ask it to write reports using Office2000 and showing them on screen! There combined crash rate will reassure our whole population.
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I think you haven't read history. The Nazi party got a majority in the elections that brought Hitler.
Now extreme stupidity in this case is believing in magical solutions to real problems. That was where Germans were stupid.
If you need some historical reference, feel free to contact me.
Can't Andover send a friend-of-court suggestion?
I'd say:
-Win9x, WinCE, X box....
-Win NT, 2000
-Apps + IE
Just a thought,
Apart from the fact that posting Micro.. specs on this web site and anonymously is cowardly at best, I think that it is a perfect example of how Microsoft uses its monopoly to pervert open standards and ultimately crush them, hence closing the door to any sane competition.
What these Anonymous Cowards should have done was to send the specs and detailed analysis of the situation to the Judge ruling Micro case, and maybe adding suggestion that not only should Micro be blown into pieces. Those pieces must small enough to ensure no portion would ever be able to do that again for the next century at least.
And sorry to add this, but people like Bill Gates and the full Micro senior staff must be targeted more specifically. They are probably worse than any WACO, because they have the monetary power, and have shown no remorse whatsoever regarding the whole thing which essentially means they either are dumb or think the Judge is.
As for all those who tell us about the end of computing if Microsoft fell, remind them of ATT and how the same crap was said about its fall and how calling Paris, London, Wherever is much cheaper today and how everybody is happy about it.
Thanks for reading all the way down here and CIAO
Please go to eazel.com and helixcode.com.
They are both companies that work to give gnome professional stuff. Both work on gnome and both companies work is in CVS in gnome.org web site.
No conflicts!
Hope this helps, it's the best I can do at midnight
What the heck are you using. Slackware 0.01 or Debian 0.0000001 or RedHat -infinity?
And yes I could get the installer to work and download the whole shebang in 4 hours! Thank U very much. It simply looks great!
Slack is shitty as hell. Unless you really have nostalgy of old *nices.
Debian is full of big name programs like "next-generation superior package management" even though I find it a waste of time and effort.
They could have worked on enhacing rpm instead of that crap.
But that's my opinion. I have been using and loving to use rh for 2 years now and I won't switch to any other distro and certainly not to slack.
No if redhat would buy vmware!
Ok,
I know this has nothing to do with RealPlayer but does anyone know of a player that reads windows media player stuff on Linux?
If you know of something like this please mail me at "aurag at geocities.com"
I watch a TV station (arabic one) that has for some reason decided to use Windows Media player technology!
Ok,
....)
....
Here goes. Why can't we do the following.
Take the Jehovah Witnesses (is that their name) who come knock on your door on sunday if you are unlucky and really do everything in their power to launch a DOS attack. (Plug in any group you don't care about or like
The solution is to not open the door. You look at header and decide not to open door?
Of course they can fool you, put masks and such but what you could do is require of all your visitors to shout their name and if you know it, good if not dump them. This is easily done at home, but at a workplace especially a public one you can't really do that.
What you do instead is check if the people are suspicious and then throw them out. Suspicious depending on situation can be poor-looking
The question:
Has anyone thought about such things for computers?
Make a list of common properties for being suspicious and simply shut the door?
Of course this list should depend on being at home or at public place, right?
At home, I want to throw anyone I do not explicitly know !
At work, I'd throw anyone who looks suspicious.
Even more, one could set alarm tools. Call the feds if you have something suspicious. Make them check everything is ok? Of course the computer would call, and in the meantime could start aggressively tracking the offender!??
Is this science fiction?
Then what could suspicious be?
Thanks
I do care about what RedHat does and I don't own stock in it!
It's simply the best overall distro out there!
Go RedHat!
I dislike all those who dislike RedHat and even more specifically rpm!
So Sir go to Hell with all your hate and paranoia!
Now, do you say the same thing about Debian going commercial?
Thanks for the info.
My thanks go also for the KDE piece of info.
Alas, I am just learning python so I can't code mucho!
I have been using RedHat as my Linux distro since 5.0 and I have never had to complaint.
Now would you please ADD some serious multilingual support fast?
I wanna be able to write, read Arabic and view web pages in that language! Netscape doesn't even do it.
There is only Microsoft out there right now for many languages in the world, even the major ones!
Good luck to REDHAT and LONG LIVE REDHAT! KING OF THE WORLD!
No it wasn't flamebait either.
Also, RedHat's list of developers included anyone they could get an address for who wrote one line of code or submitted a bug.
Also, Debian is not supposed to be a corporation or is it now?
Finally, I just wanted to say that this whol;e anti redhat bigotry is tiring.
I do not nor plan to work for RedHat, but I use their software and it is good. Otherwise, I also like the fact that Debian, Slackware, Corel... exist. However I must say, I definitly disliked Debian and all Debian hate propaganda doctors we had here during the RedHat IPO spam or not spam.
That was pure and simple and stupid form of hatred!
Why woudln't they do it? If they make those ides why wouldn't they require other people to do it?
I really don't see that it is evil.
What is evil is not when you own everything like MS. It is when you use that power to screw other people's work, innovation!
I wouldn't have cared less that MS makes win98, Office, IE , Visual Studio..... if they didn't use their cash to destroy other people's work.
I don't question MS's work. I question their market methods!
I think VMWare would be a good thing to buy.
And open-source a max of it too!
VMWARE ANYONE?!?!?!?!?!?!
Oh and while you are at it, could you finally make that portal of yours. I dream of the day I'll have a my.redhat.com page that makes sense and gives some benefits!
Ok,
...list-request of course for all those 100K idiotic sys admins out there!
All RedHat users should subscribe to redhat-announce-list@redhat.com. Requests to subscribe go to
When something like this happens, in this case a month or more ago, you get to get an email from RedHat and a link you can click on to download the damned patch!
They also have full instructions on how to type rpm -Uvh (how the hell did you install it first time?)
Now, if you people have problems with that, I think you should resign from your jobs and go play nintendo gameboy (not N64).
Also to all the crappy folks out there, run portsentry with commands like 'sentry -atcp', 'sentry -audp'.
As a good sysadmin you could also get nessus and run it once a month on a heavily changed site!
Finally, write those damned cgi scripts correctly!
Ciao bambinis
You seemed incoherent in your message. Talking about Etrade, saying RedHat is innocent, blahblah, then suddenly switch to: I ain't be doing any RedHat rpms, will do them for Mandrake!
I think you should stop taking drugs or something.
Anyway, who cares about what you do?
I don't.
However, it was a funny message, in a very stupid way!
With all due to respect, I have found StarOffice to be a much better integrated product!
...., Java,....
Web, Mail, Word proc, PowerPoint like stuff, Schedule, Browser, Plugins,
I think StarOffice is the most comparable Office Suite to MS Office on a Linux box! IMHO of course
Now if only they could add some Gnome integration, WOW!
Can PGP help diminish that threat?
I understand there is never any real security whenever you are connected using any kind of software GNU, MS, SUN, SCO.........
PGP signed tarballs, rpms...., by the maintainer or the distro like RedHat, Debian, Suse.....
This is a warning.
I like RedHat because they work. I never liked Mandrake because they made configuration files.
Now Mandrake has been doing what I always said RedHat should do.
GET YOURSELF A DESKTOP DIVISION!
The answer then was, well you know there isn't really any interest in Linux on desktop! No apps etc...
This is an honest warning. IBM did that years ago and got screwed by Microsoft!
You are doing it now and will get screwed by Mandrake! They will have the huge desktop market in 10 years or more with MS, and you will battling crap with SUN!
I wouldn't want RedHat to be SUN, I want RedHat to be ALLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kidding, but it's true that Mandrake is doing what RedHat should have started doing simultaneously with its corporate attack. They should and I still should again and again create a desktop division.
Hey, we have 3 office suites of great quality.
5 commercial games plus other (FINALLY) 3D GNU games.
All you need is a usable (not hylafax, not mgetty) fax/voice/data gtk/gnome based software that autoconfigures, and you are ready for SOHo's.
Why are people so blind?
Kuddos Mandrake even though I still don't like you!
Mac has always been dead except for a few zealots.
Sorry to say that, but it's true.
Beos? What Bee? What OS?
Good luck to them though!
A shot in the dark, you have glibc2.1 with RH6.0 and not glibc2.0.
/usr/local/quakelibs/ and issue something like
I don't know if it changes things. Try downloading glibc2.0, put it in a separate place like
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/... quake3 or whatver the command is.
I answered someone the same thing I am going to say to you.
Say you hate RedHat in one big fat message.
And STOP posting STUPID messages like this one.
Spam???? Are you crazy or something?
Maybe you should calm drugs down!
Ciao
Just to say that in my experience people who see twisted things everywhere are twisted themselves.
If RedHat hadn't something like this, YOU would have criticized it, now that it does something like this for the community, YOU criticize it again!
Just say you hate RedHat in one big fat message and don't post any more stupid comments like this one.
I am writing this for all those apocamaniacs out there in the wild.
IF ANYONE CREATES A BLACKHOLE ON EARTH, the time it will take your brains to recognize it as such, eg:
Time for signal to go from eye to brain, or another type of sense.
will be longer than the time it will take the black hole to squeeze you and me and a lot of other things around us, until we are no longer bigger than nothing!
So rest at peace, your death and ours will be swift.
Now let's get serious, I was just wondering that maybe we ought to ask them to use NT to run the experiments!
At its crash rate, no black hole can ever form and swallow us ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe even (just to make sure), ask it to write reports using Office2000 and showing them on screen! There combined crash rate will reassure our whole population.