"Ahh, so you're mad because you feel like you're not in control... or not the alpha male I guess. You see a shortcoming in yourself. I can understand you leaving, but no need to be rude. For many men (probably w/higher test. levels then you) strippers are fun entertainment."
Maybe you've never actually had a job in the real world, but when you walk out on a team event, it's a very strong statement to your peers and to your management. You are taking some serious risks with your career.
Not everyone is primed to make a big moral stand and turn everything into a big deal all the time, but there's nothing wrong with being pissed off about it. You pick your battles. I chose to spend time with my new coworkers even if it meant shoving money down a stripper's pants. It's a game and management put me in that position. Walking out would have been a lot more harmful.
To give you an idea of how messed up your ideas are in the real world, right now, I'm trying to think of some kind of event which traditional Muslim team members can feel comfortable participating in. These guys have been excluded from just about all the after-work stuff because of alcohol and their family lives. Nobody wants people to feel like outsiders. It means that we need to make sure that our events during working hours are even more inclusive and it's NOT a bad thing. I think we're down to going bowling, baseball or go-carts. Not much else I can think of.
But... strippers at a work function? What planet are you on?
I don't want a stripper begging me for money. I don't want my peers expecting me to treat her like a stripper. I'll proudly call myself a wimp, girly, sensitive or whatever and if you have a problem with that, you really have to reconsider your image of what it is to be a man. Gay men are men. Men loyal to their girlfriends and wives are men. Men who don't take strange women's clothes off are men. We don't all have to fit into the model that television and movies make us fit into.
I've been put in this situation before and there was nothing I could do except play the game and shove money down her pants. The stripper knows it and she exploits it. Next time I encounter an event like that, I'm telling my coworkers to have fun, I'll walk straight out and tell the organizer to fuck off.
If I were Yahoo's management, I'd reassign or fire whomever was responsible for it. They shouldn't be calling shots for events.
My manager, frustrated with his long working hours, said to me "You know, in India, I earned one third the salary. My wife didn't have to work and I had servants. Why am I wasting my life working like a dog here?"
"This marks one of the core questions of GPLv2: Is it based on copyright or is it a contract that, while borrowing some copyright terms, ultimately stands on its own?"
The article is bunk. If they haven't figured out this much, then they're not qualified to talk about it.
Although, if the theaters provided guarded lockers, like a lot of electronics shops and stuff, I'd be okay with that. Trouble is, the staff are so rude and nobody takes responsibility for anything, so I guess it wouldn't work. The cinema would also charge some outrageous fee for the service, and hire kids so broke that they'd pick pockets and rifle through the bags.
A young blonde actress with big tits and a heavy lisp goes to Hollywood to make it big in film. Refusing to let corrupt producers have their way with her, her acting career is over before it began.
Faced with tough decisions, a choice between stripping or prostitution, she surprises everyone by falling into the seedy underworld of systems administration for the gambling industry... life would be simpler if she chose instead to work the streets...
In the gambling industry you're going to be around some people who rub elbows with some real cuthroat businessmen. You'll see things and talk with people who've been in low places.
Those people will be your managers.
Do it. Especially if you're young. You'll be learning so much from such a safe place.
I once dated a girl who made the observation that I have too many female friends. She felt that the only reason I'd have so many women friends is because there would be a sexual chemistry. Either they want to sleep with me, or I want to sleep with them. That for me to have so few male friends really said something about my character.
I gave it a lot of thought and I think it is partially true. The conclusion I think is wrong though. I think it is normal to have feelings of attraction to other people. It's normal to want to have sex with other people. It's normal also to respect boundaries, to respect their other friendships and relationships. To respect working relationships and the nature of the workplace.
It's also normal for our partner to be jealous of those friendships. So what can we do about it?
It was a security policy. The implication was that by reducing the volume of carry-on, they could examine carry-on luggage more closely. The U.K. has been diddling with this policy on a daily basis, it's hard to know what the rules are on any given day.
Last I checked it was one bag, and nail scissors were approved the day after thye were taken away from me.
Can I take a handbag and a piece of hand luggage?
Yes, but not yet at Stansted Airport, where the airlines continue to implement the 'one carry-on bag rule'. At Stansted, your handbag does count as the single item of hand baggage, unless you put it in your cabin bag.
It's lunacy. Normally I just throw up my arms and let them do what they like to my luggage.
So Gatwick is okay now. Stansted is still broken.. at least according to gatwickairport.com, which well, probably isn't updated frequently on Stansted policies.
It's not that bad. The U.S. threatened to tighten the Canada/U.S. border with the claims you describe.
The trouble is that Canada depends on trade with the U.S., so when faced with the option of tightening up the ten or so major international airports v.s. the 49th parallel, the great lakes seaway and Quebec/New England states, Canada opted for the former.
So now Canadian border guards also ask stupid questions, but they're less overworked, better educated, better trained and better paid, so they tend to be more sane about border crossings. You still get checked carefully at Canada/U.S. border crossings if you don't have Canadian ID... and it's not quite so easy to get over the 49th as people might think. Sure you can throw a backpack on at night and walk along a dirt road for a while, but people do look for that sort of thing, and you have to know the area really well and blend in so as to pick the right place to cross and not upset the land owners.
Terrorist: "Hello Greyhound, you drive busses right?"
Greyhound: "Yep"
Terrorist: "I want to go to this place."
Greyhound: "Is that a satellite photo?"
Terrorist: "no, Google maps"
Greyhound: "What's it called? that place?"
Terrorist: "Canada"
Greyhound: "No the place on the map"
Terrorist: "It's a place in Canada, near the U.S. border, how do I get there?"
Greyhound: "I think you can take the bus to Sherbrooke and find a taxi maybe, but it will be expensive"
Terrorist: "Take me to this place on the map.
Taxi driver: "Pardon? Ques-ce Anglais, Pourquois? Ou?"
Terrorist: "Eee Cee?"
Taxi driver: "Ou?"
Terrorist: "Tabernac!"
Taxi driver: "We have er, English, er where is the um map?"
Terrorist: "I am travelling to the U.S. to do nefarious things, like... I'm not quite sure, but I'll know when I get there, and I won't be able to get into the country because... umm, because... I don't know why exactly, but I decided to walk the Appelacian trail or something"
Taxi driver: "oh kay!"
Point is, if you know enough to get over the border through a backcountry crossing, you're probably not going to be stopped by the U.S. border guards anyway.
I think it was in Gatwick, I was passing through the airport and I noticed that you could purchase a "token" for an express passage. When you used this token, it skips one of the checkpoints.
This was not so much of a security checkpoint, but a cash-grab checkpoint. I had my computer in my arm and a wheeling suitcase, which sums up to two pieces of luggage. This not only exceeds airline baggage allowance, but it violates a security policy.
Fortunately, there was a coffee shop next to the entry point, so I deeked out the lady working security and had a coffee while thinking about how to squeeze my laptop into my carry-on.
She was working alone and couldn't do much when she was trying to explain the one-bag policy. It seemed lots of people could slip past her, some had more than one bag.
So I waited for somebody to get stopped...
... then I slipped through the turnstile.
Next time, I pay for the token.
Of course reporting this or complaining about this could get me banned from flights and labelled a terrorist.
First, I never heard of the site before. Is it really popular? Am I just out of the loop? It's not come up in my daily searches for technical info.
I mean, it looks good, like somebody finally created a replacement for the community in usenet and what Expertsexchange was before they turned into a nag-site. It's not original, just re-creating stuff which was destroyed in the past by spammers and misguided business models
But looking closer, it seems to be a showcase for their business selling the software to run the site. Could it really be any different?
This is the most obvious Slashvertisement I've ever seen.
Linux desktop zealots do a disservice to Linux advocacy. Nobody forgets the geeks who come in, wipes out a machine, geeks out for two days then says "you need a new video card/sound card/printer" "You don't need flash", "MS Office is proprietary", "Java??? why would you want that???" "Multiple audio streams?? But the fidelity is beautiful!" "The fonts aren't blurry, they're superior!", "DVD? but that's illegal", "MP3, use OGG, oh, MP3 is propreitary", "don't use root!, you don't need to! unless you want to install/change/read/etc something!", "Skype? use Ekiga! oh, your friends can ALL SWITCH!", "It's more stable!,oh that was just X.org, you lost your document, but your UPTIME is SAVED!"
Today it seems to be more about hands-off domestic corporations, encourage private alternatives to public systems, and alter laws to support home-grown international corporations. The media spins everything into a story and you don't have a story without conflict.
These days, democracy needs to be protected from private interests, and the Conservatives are caving in all the wrong places. I don't like them.
BTW, did you send in your membership to the Pirate Party yet?
I gave it a read. It's well researched, but repetitive and sensational.
The system worked like this. One punchcard per person. Take the census data, find out a person's ethnicity, parent's ethnicity, religion, occupation, education etc. Now if you need to find the Jewish people, all you do is run a sort based on ethnicity. They were able to use the census data and the card sorters to find people with as little as 1/16 Jewish ancestry.
Now you have a stack of cards for each concentration camp. If you need a thousand people to build a railway, sort on profession, age, etc. Done. Distribute the cards to the guards and find people to find the prisioners with the right numbers tattooed on their armptis.
It's no surprise that the German subsidary did this work though. It was a German company. The surprise was how Watson was able to keep his hands in the cookie jar from over a wartime border.
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As an aside, I actually think Android will not ever be a serious competitor for the iPhone.
This is head-to-head with Windows Mobile, and maybe the Blackberry, but not the iPhone.
"Ahh, so you're mad because you feel like you're not in control... or not the alpha male I guess. You see a shortcoming in yourself. I can understand you leaving, but no need to be rude. For many men (probably w/higher test. levels then you) strippers are fun entertainment."
Maybe you've never actually had a job in the real world, but when you walk out on a team event, it's a very strong statement to your peers and to your management. You are taking some serious risks with your career.
Not everyone is primed to make a big moral stand and turn everything into a big deal all the time, but there's nothing wrong with being pissed off about it. You pick your battles. I chose to spend time with my new coworkers even if it meant shoving money down a stripper's pants. It's a game and management put me in that position. Walking out would have been a lot more harmful.
To give you an idea of how messed up your ideas are in the real world, right now, I'm trying to think of some kind of event which traditional Muslim team members can feel comfortable participating in. These guys have been excluded from just about all the after-work stuff because of alcohol and their family lives. Nobody wants people to feel like outsiders. It means that we need to make sure that our events during working hours are even more inclusive and it's NOT a bad thing. I think we're down to going bowling, baseball or go-carts. Not much else I can think of.
But... strippers at a work function? What planet are you on?
This isn't a strip club though, this is a work-sponsored event :-(
If you paid a professional cost not going out with the guys after work, imagine the professional cost of objecting to this in a trade show.
And you're quite right, I didn't mean to imply that men who like strippers aren't real men.
You're totally right, and I'd agree if in this case, everyone pooled out to the strip clubs after the event.
But in this case, the strippers are company sponsored and *in* the conference :-(
Work events are supposed to be inclusive and team building. Save the strippers for the after-parties.
It's disrespectful to men.
I don't want a stripper begging me for money. I don't want my peers expecting me to treat her like a stripper. I'll proudly call myself a wimp, girly, sensitive or whatever and if you have a problem with that, you really have to reconsider your image of what it is to be a man. Gay men are men. Men loyal to their girlfriends and wives are men. Men who don't take strange women's clothes off are men. We don't all have to fit into the model that television and movies make us fit into.
I've been put in this situation before and there was nothing I could do except play the game and shove money down her pants. The stripper knows it and she exploits it. Next time I encounter an event like that, I'm telling my coworkers to have fun, I'll walk straight out and tell the organizer to fuck off.
If I were Yahoo's management, I'd reassign or fire whomever was responsible for it. They shouldn't be calling shots for events.
My manager, frustrated with his long working hours, said to me "You know, in India, I earned one third the salary. My wife didn't have to work and I had servants. Why am I wasting my life working like a dog here?"
... well, it was funny when *he* said it.
"This marks one of the core questions of GPLv2: Is it based on copyright or is it a contract that, while borrowing some copyright terms, ultimately stands on its own?"
The article is bunk. If they haven't figured out this much, then they're not qualified to talk about it.
Although, if the theaters provided guarded lockers, like a lot of electronics shops and stuff, I'd be okay with that. Trouble is, the staff are so rude and nobody takes responsibility for anything, so I guess it wouldn't work. The cinema would also charge some outrageous fee for the service, and hire kids so broke that they'd pick pockets and rifle through the bags.
I hate big cinemas :-(
"...why the hell should I give it away for free?"
Why should society grant you a temporary monopoly, when you can't even implement it?
Coming soon!
A young blonde actress with big tits and a heavy lisp goes to Hollywood to make it big in film. Refusing to let corrupt producers have their way with her, her acting career is over before it began.
Faced with tough decisions, a choice between stripping or prostitution, she surprises everyone by falling into the seedy underworld of systems administration for the gambling industry... life would be simpler if she chose instead to work the streets...
Uma Thurman in ...
MAXIMUM ENTROPY!
... who said you coldn't fsck /dev/random.
In the gambling industry you're going to be around some people who rub elbows with some real cuthroat businessmen. You'll see things and talk with people who've been in low places.
Those people will be your managers.
Do it. Especially if you're young. You'll be learning so much from such a safe place.
I'd hire you just to hear your stories.
Reducing it to sex is a bit too simple.
I once dated a girl who made the observation that I have too many female friends. She felt that the only reason I'd have so many women friends is because there would be a sexual chemistry. Either they want to sleep with me, or I want to sleep with them. That for me to have so few male friends really said something about my character.
I gave it a lot of thought and I think it is partially true. The conclusion I think is wrong though. I think it is normal to have feelings of attraction to other people. It's normal to want to have sex with other people. It's normal also to respect boundaries, to respect their other friendships and relationships. To respect working relationships and the nature of the workplace.
It's also normal for our partner to be jealous of those friendships. So what can we do about it?
It's not sexist, but if you're working with her, she's a captive audience.
It changes the dynamic a LOT.
It was a security policy. The implication was that by reducing the volume of carry-on, they could examine carry-on luggage more closely. The U.K. has been diddling with this policy on a daily basis, it's hard to know what the rules are on any given day.
Last I checked it was one bag, and nail scissors were approved the day after thye were taken away from me.
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It's lunacy. Normally I just throw up my arms and let them do what they like to my luggage.
So Gatwick is okay now. Stansted is still broken.. at least according to gatwickairport.com, which well, probably isn't updated frequently on Stansted policies.
It's not that bad. The U.S. threatened to tighten the Canada/U.S. border with the claims you describe.
The trouble is that Canada depends on trade with the U.S., so when faced with the option of tightening up the ten or so major international airports v.s. the 49th parallel, the great lakes seaway and Quebec/New England states, Canada opted for the former.
So now Canadian border guards also ask stupid questions, but they're less overworked, better educated, better trained and better paid, so they tend to be more sane about border crossings. You still get checked carefully at Canada/U.S. border crossings if you don't have Canadian ID... and it's not quite so easy to get over the 49th as people might think. Sure you can throw a backpack on at night and walk along a dirt road for a while, but people do look for that sort of thing, and you have to know the area really well and blend in so as to pick the right place to cross and not upset the land owners.
Terrorist: "Hello Greyhound, you drive busses right?"
Greyhound: "Yep"
Terrorist: "I want to go to this place."
Greyhound: "Is that a satellite photo?"
Terrorist: "no, Google maps"
Greyhound: "What's it called? that place?"
Terrorist: "Canada"
Greyhound: "No the place on the map"
Terrorist: "It's a place in Canada, near the U.S. border, how do I get there?"
Greyhound: "I think you can take the bus to Sherbrooke and find a taxi maybe, but it will be expensive"
Terrorist: "Take me to this place on the map.
Taxi driver: "Pardon? Ques-ce Anglais, Pourquois? Ou?"
Terrorist: "Eee Cee?"
Taxi driver: "Ou?"
Terrorist: "Tabernac!"
Taxi driver: "We have er, English, er where is the um map?"
Terrorist: "I am travelling to the U.S. to do nefarious things, like... I'm not quite sure, but I'll know when I get there, and I won't be able to get into the country because... umm, because... I don't know why exactly, but I decided to walk the Appelacian trail or something"
Taxi driver: "oh kay!"
Point is, if you know enough to get over the border through a backcountry crossing, you're probably not going to be stopped by the U.S. border guards anyway.
I think it was in Gatwick, I was passing through the airport and I noticed that you could purchase a "token" for an express passage. When you used this token, it skips one of the checkpoints.
This was not so much of a security checkpoint, but a cash-grab checkpoint. I had my computer in my arm and a wheeling suitcase, which sums up to two pieces of luggage. This not only exceeds airline baggage allowance, but it violates a security policy.
Fortunately, there was a coffee shop next to the entry point, so I deeked out the lady working security and had a coffee while thinking about how to squeeze my laptop into my carry-on.
She was working alone and couldn't do much when she was trying to explain the one-bag policy. It seemed lots of people could slip past her, some had more than one bag.
So I waited for somebody to get stopped...
... then I slipped through the turnstile.
Next time, I pay for the token.
Of course reporting this or complaining about this could get me banned from flights and labelled a terrorist.
First, I never heard of the site before. Is it really popular? Am I just out of the loop? It's not come up in my daily searches for technical info.
I mean, it looks good, like somebody finally created a replacement for the community in usenet and what Expertsexchange was before they turned into a nag-site. It's not original, just re-creating stuff which was destroyed in the past by spammers and misguided business models
But looking closer, it seems to be a showcase for their business selling the software to run the site. Could it really be any different?
This is the most obvious Slashvertisement I've ever seen.
Linux desktop zealots do a disservice to Linux advocacy. Nobody forgets the geeks who come in, wipes out a machine, geeks out for two days then says "you need a new video card/sound card/printer" "You don't need flash", "MS Office is proprietary", "Java??? why would you want that???" "Multiple audio streams?? But the fidelity is beautiful!" "The fonts aren't blurry, they're superior!", "DVD? but that's illegal", "MP3, use OGG, oh, MP3 is propreitary", "don't use root!, you don't need to! unless you want to install/change/read/etc something!", "Skype? use Ekiga! oh, your friends can ALL SWITCH!", "It's more stable! ,oh that was just X.org, you lost your document, but your UPTIME is SAVED!"
These guys are doing awesome work at fixing the public record problem.
https://www.recapthelaw.org/
Today it seems to be more about hands-off domestic corporations, encourage private alternatives to public systems, and alter laws to support home-grown international corporations. The media spins everything into a story and you don't have a story without conflict.
These days, democracy needs to be protected from private interests, and the Conservatives are caving in all the wrong places. I don't like them.
BTW, did you send in your membership to the Pirate Party yet?
This sounds like the platform of the Conservative Party of Canada.
Hey! Those privacy eliminating laws are important for being able to weed out the homo^Hcommu^Hmusli^Hdruggie^Hterrorists!
A real apology might be to name a privacy or anti-discrimination act after him. But we know that won't happen.
More and more, the U.S. constitution seems like an inconvenience to the government and not something to uphold and protect :-(
I gave it a read. It's well researched, but repetitive and sensational.
The system worked like this. One punchcard per person. Take the census data, find out a person's ethnicity, parent's ethnicity, religion, occupation, education etc. Now if you need to find the Jewish people, all you do is run a sort based on ethnicity. They were able to use the census data and the card sorters to find people with as little as 1/16 Jewish ancestry.
Now you have a stack of cards for each concentration camp. If you need a thousand people to build a railway, sort on profession, age, etc. Done. Distribute the cards to the guards and find people to find the prisioners with the right numbers tattooed on their armptis.
It's no surprise that the German subsidary did this work though. It was a German company. The surprise was how Watson was able to keep his hands in the cookie jar from over a wartime border.