Uh, AGPS is real GPS. The A stands for Assisted. It just provides a faster method for figuring out which satellites are up, but otherwise it is exactly the same as any other GPS.
I was actually planning on buying an N810 a few months ago until I found out that the N900 might actually have a decent GPS.
GPS in the N810 works perfectly fine if you enable the A-GPS support. I usually get a lock before I have left the driveway at home. Although it will be easier/better with the N900 since I assume it will have the A-GPS support built in and having a data connection is much faster than setting up the Bluetooth connection to a phone.
The ones direct from Nokia are not locked. But AT&T and T-Mobile have different 3G frequencies and the US model supports only the T-Mobile bands as far as I understand.
I would suggest if you want an open platform with OMAP3 performance you would look at the Nokia N900, but it you can't get T-Mobile coverage at home you are pretty much screwed:-).
Tethering has only been disabled in 3.1 for providers that don't officially support the iPhone. That sucks, certainly, but let's not engage in hyperbole. If you buy a phone not supported by your carrier, you run the risk of this sort of thing. That's true with any phone, not just the iPhone.
That is completely not true. If I buy an unlocked phone I have the expectation that every feature supported by the phone will work unless the operator doesn't specifically have that feature (like an MMS server).
Tethering is totally different in that regard. The network can't tell if the bits come from the phone or a device using the phone as a modem. So it is completely artificial to limit tethering and Apple had no right to disable it for all non-partner networks. Whether I can use tethering is between me and the mobile operator. Apple has nothing to do with it and this.
This sort of action is so completely in line with Apple current practices though and I hope their asses get nailed to the wall because of it. It might teach them a lesson.
You forgot to say "in the US".
Most of the people complaining about the loss of tethering are in Europe. It is totally normal here to have an unlocked phone and do whatever the hell you like with it. For Apple to come in after the fact and disable features like this for an unlocked phone is unacceptable!.
You can even see the difference in the names used. In the US you have "carriers" and in Europe we have "operators". Because all they do here is operate the network. They give me a bit pipe and I pay the monthly bill. Otherwise they keep their damn sticky paws off my phone.
Actually it is completely Apples fault. They disabled the tethering settings on the default network configuration. That network configuration is used for all carriers who are not Apple partners. So it is totally Apples fault. What they should have done is enabled everything on the default network.
Apple has a totally American view of the mobile world. They do NOT understand unlocked phones at all and believe the only true way is that you must bend over for an carrier/operator. This is exactly the same reason that every time you change the SIM card in an iPhone you have to reactivate the phone in iTunes.
Every other unlocked GSM/UMTS phone in the world would allow all features designed by the manufacturer and they have no limitations on changing the SIM.
Well at age 24 she developed cancer. The belief that having government care is "better" is a false one. At least in the U.S. this woman could have gone to a doctor, handed-over $400, and the PAP performed immediately. In the UK she just got shoved aside. The U.S. also has one other thing in its favor: It's not a monopoly.
Uh, bozo, in any country you can hand over money to a hospital and get any treatment done.
And I call bullshit on this. In nearly every country I have been in or read about with a public health system PAP screening of women is done automatically. Prevention is better than a cure. And the frequency of screening is done based on family history and past results.
Just having a public health service doesn't prevent you from paying for things yourself. It is not a monopoly. I don't know where you get your totally fucked up ideas from. I think you have been listening to the Republican party too long. The same party who was convinced that Stephen Hawking would be dead if he was born in the UK, opps, he was.
Well, they still might look like crap, but it does improve them quite a lot.
It is possible to get reasonable pictures with the E71. I have taken extremely good ones at times, but the camera does not have good exposure control and the white balance is off at times. I have found that giving the camera a few seconds to settle down helps quite a lot.
I have heard that the latest firmware improves things, but I haven't upgraded yet.
It is also possible to get location tagging via the GPS with the E71. Just download and install Location Tagger from Nokia Betalabs.
You are right. Both the N900 and iPhone have a real GPS chip in them. The main difference is that the N900 (Ovi Maps) can be operated without a network connection since you can pre-load the country maps. The iPhone always needs a network connection to get the maps from Google. That is unless you use the new TomTom app or equivalent.
That's bollocks. I get a fix with my N810 in less than 30seconds pretty much all the time.
Uh, all maps are flat. Wayfinder works perfectly well in the N810 and I use the full voice navigation all the time. But in any case the N900 will be using Nokia's own Ovi Maps.
This whole thread started because it was pointed out that the N97 was expensive. But that was the SIM free price.
I just showed that when comparing apples with apples the N97 is much cheaper than the iPhone, which it is. You can get the N97 on contract for free, but the iPhone always costs.
This is not because the N97 is much cheaper, but because Apple is charging you more. Just like you pay more for a Macbook than you do for an equivalent PC.
And to get a subsidized phone you take a contract, usually 18 or 24 months. If you unlock your contract phone how does that help anything? You still have to pay the monthly fee and it includes an extra charge to cover the phone! O2 has to make their money somewhere. So you haven't gotten anything cheaper! Stop paying and see what happens.
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Uh, AGPS is real GPS. The A stands for Assisted. It just provides a faster method for figuring out which satellites are up, but otherwise it is exactly the same as any other GPS.
I was actually planning on buying an N810 a few months ago until I found out that the N900 might actually have a decent GPS.
GPS in the N810 works perfectly fine if you enable the A-GPS support. I usually get a lock before I have left the driveway at home. Although it will be easier/better with the N900 since I assume it will have the A-GPS support built in and having a data connection is much faster than setting up the Bluetooth connection to a phone.
Just because YOU don't see the point doesn't make it a worthless feature.
You can get full answering machines that run in the Nokia S60 phones. They have existed for a long time already.
The ones direct from Nokia are not locked. But AT&T and T-Mobile have different 3G frequencies and the US model supports only the T-Mobile bands as far as I understand.
I would suggest if you want an open platform with OMAP3 performance you would look at the Nokia N900, but it you can't get T-Mobile coverage at home you are pretty much screwed :-).
Tethering has only been disabled in 3.1 for providers that don't officially support the iPhone. That sucks, certainly, but let's not engage in hyperbole. If you buy a phone not supported by your carrier, you run the risk of this sort of thing. That's true with any phone, not just the iPhone.
That is completely not true. If I buy an unlocked phone I have the expectation that every feature supported by the phone will work unless the operator doesn't specifically have that feature (like an MMS server).
Tethering is totally different in that regard. The network can't tell if the bits come from the phone or a device using the phone as a modem. So it is completely artificial to limit tethering and Apple had no right to disable it for all non-partner networks. Whether I can use tethering is between me and the mobile operator. Apple has nothing to do with it and this.
This sort of action is so completely in line with Apple current practices though and I hope their asses get nailed to the wall because of it. It might teach them a lesson.
You forgot to say "in the US". Most of the people complaining about the loss of tethering are in Europe. It is totally normal here to have an unlocked phone and do whatever the hell you like with it. For Apple to come in after the fact and disable features like this for an unlocked phone is unacceptable!. You can even see the difference in the names used. In the US you have "carriers" and in Europe we have "operators". Because all they do here is operate the network. They give me a bit pipe and I pay the monthly bill. Otherwise they keep their damn sticky paws off my phone.
Actually it is completely Apples fault. They disabled the tethering settings on the default network configuration. That network configuration is used for all carriers who are not Apple partners. So it is totally Apples fault. What they should have done is enabled everything on the default network.
Apple has a totally American view of the mobile world. They do NOT understand unlocked phones at all and believe the only true way is that you must bend over for an carrier/operator. This is exactly the same reason that every time you change the SIM card in an iPhone you have to reactivate the phone in iTunes.
Every other unlocked GSM/UMTS phone in the world would allow all features designed by the manufacturer and they have no limitations on changing the SIM.
Well at age 24 she developed cancer. The belief that having government care is "better" is a false one. At least in the U.S. this woman could have gone to a doctor, handed-over $400, and the PAP performed immediately. In the UK she just got shoved aside. The U.S. also has one other thing in its favor: It's not a monopoly.
Uh, bozo, in any country you can hand over money to a hospital and get any treatment done.
And I call bullshit on this. In nearly every country I have been in or read about with a public health system PAP screening of women is done automatically. Prevention is better than a cure. And the frequency of screening is done based on family history and past results.
Just having a public health service doesn't prevent you from paying for things yourself. It is not a monopoly. I don't know where you get your totally fucked up ideas from. I think you have been listening to the Republican party too long. The same party who was convinced that Stephen Hawking would be dead if he was born in the UK, opps, he was.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6017878/Stephen-Hawking-I-would-not-be-alive-without-the-NHS.html
Well, they still might look like crap, but it does improve them quite a lot.
It is possible to get reasonable pictures with the E71. I have taken extremely good ones at times, but the camera does not have good exposure control and the white balance is off at times. I have found that giving the camera a few seconds to settle down helps quite a lot.
I have heard that the latest firmware improves things, but I haven't upgraded yet.
It is also possible to get location tagging via the GPS with the E71. Just download and install Location Tagger from Nokia Betalabs.
http://betalabs.nokia.com/betas/view/location-tagger
Uh, I was there yesterday on my Ubuntu desktop and it worked fine for me.
You are right. Both the N900 and iPhone have a real GPS chip in them. The main difference is that the N900 (Ovi Maps) can be operated without a network connection since you can pre-load the country maps. The iPhone always needs a network connection to get the maps from Google. That is unless you use the new TomTom app or equivalent.
Of course you should install the AGPS daemon software from the repository as well. Without that it sucks shit.
I think it was October this year.
About the E71. You do realize you have to press the "T" key to focus it before taking a picture don't you? Then the viewfinder guides turn green.
And the E71 doesn't have a Zeiss lens. It has the standard Nokia cheap one.
That's bollocks. I get a fix with my N810 in less than 30seconds pretty much all the time.
Uh, all maps are flat. Wayfinder works perfectly well in the N810 and I use the full voice navigation all the time. But in any case the N900 will be using Nokia's own Ovi Maps.
Getting touchy are we?
This whole thread started because it was pointed out that the N97 was expensive. But that was the SIM free price.
I just showed that when comparing apples with apples the N97 is much cheaper than the iPhone, which it is. You can get the N97 on contract for free, but the iPhone always costs.
This is not because the N97 is much cheaper, but because Apple is charging you more. Just like you pay more for a Macbook than you do for an equivalent PC.
And to get a subsidized phone you take a contract, usually 18 or 24 months. If you unlock your contract phone how does that help anything? You still have to pay the monthly fee and it includes an extra charge to cover the phone! O2 has to make their money somewhere. So you haven't gotten anything cheaper! Stop paying and see what happens.
Yep, 1 million hits in 50 minutes will tend to do that.
Much, much higher resolution screen, 800x480.
PC Suite is QT as far as I know. Ovi Suite 1.0 is .NET, but 2.0 (still badly beta) is written in QT...
Try Expansys and weep.
http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=183742
You are cheating and that is not comparing the same thing. It is not legal to break your contract by jailbreaking and unlocking your phone.
I am talking about a totally carrier free unlocked phone. No contract, no subsidies. And in that case Apple is reaming your ass totally.
So, I am afraid that you are the one who is totally wrong and should check your facts.
Except that FT of Germany is full of shit and had no basis for any of that except a few rumours off the net. Real quality reporting.
And how the hell do you arrive at 620 > 1000?!? Or how about the UK price. iPhone 3GS, 919.99 pounds or the N97, 454.99 pounds.
I would say your have a problem with your argument.
Uh, and Nokia does make a 3G USB modem.
The rumour is going around of 399 EUR. It will probably be sold subsidized by the mobile operators though in most cases.
GPS, 32GB of built in storage for starters.