Hey, using the vast amount of extra money that I make using Linux in business environments, I'll just buy your house after the foreclosure with the extra disposable income that using Linux affords me...
They are not removing the product activation to support thieves. They are removing it because they refused to discuss what changes were being made to the computer, so people who BOUGHT software chose to buy from somewhere else. (Yes, I was an Intuit user who tried TaxCut for the first time because of this).
They are apologizing because they told their customer base "This is how it will be", so Intuit's paying customers left....
Although I have yet to attempt "pro se", I do not feel I have ever been properly represented by any lawyers in my employ.
In every case where I have had to use a lawyer, they have taken my money and requested that I take the first deal offered. In the end, I end up paying thousands and negotiating a better deal than my lawyer would have even attempted. If I didn't employ a lawyer, then the courts/"other side" wouldn't even allow me to begin negotiations.
So, where all this goes is that I believe I should be allowed to go to the local library to electronically search case law. If for no other reason than to keep tabs on my own lawyer!
Personally Heinlein had it right.. I look forward to his vision of utopia...
Maybe not totally, but I'll bet they are feeling the pinch.
I guess that since this whole problem has become "mainstream" that I've kept aproximately $7000 that I would've happily put into someone elses pockets.
Why did I keep my money? Overpriced goods, and a dislike of their business practices. I know that the kids that I have raised don't purchase as many CDs as they would like becasue of our discussions regarding the "evils" of the MPAA/RIAA.
So, if these organizations would look at their business models, I would happily part with some of the current savings that I have reaped by not supporting the MPAA/RIAA. Unfortunately, I don't think they'll ever get the blind patronage that they have enjoyed in the past.
Because of the problem relating to the AbiWord fiasco, I will no longer allow people to use PayPal as an accepted method of payment for auctions that I run. While I know this may cause me some problems with the auctions, I'm afraid that I'm suffering from a case of "but for ____, there goes me".
So, I just wanted to let you know that I have tried to keep an open mind where PayPal was concerned. I do not feel that I can trust PayPal to accept payments relating to my life and business.
It's a shame, but I had just run my successful test group of auctions and am getting ready to roll out with a continuous stream of computer parts auctions.
Actually, new car sales aren't helping, as everyone I know has opted not to get satellite radio. Yep, I know it's cool and all, it just comes down to "how many things do you need on a subscription plan".
Personally, radio in my car was just one too many. Apparently I'm not the only one who feels that way.
Actually, I usually customize the hell out of my stereo and don't buy anything from the dealer. So, I easily spend $1000 on a car stereo, but just don't want the subscription.
Just my 2 cents (which I'll keep, thank you very much).
I don't think that Southwest was fighting so that they wouldn't have to do it. The fight was against a lawsuit that was going to get a lawyer paid.
I'll bet if someone had approached Southwest and offered TO HELP them with this problem, instead of filing a frivolous lawsuit, this problem might already be history.
After all, it isn't in Southwest's best interest to alienate customers.
This was just a play for money by an unscrupulous lawyer. Bang, dead, there I said it!
I'm from New Orleans, and he could operate that way there. If you are only interested in a one shot, then run, that can be done anywhere.
One Mardi Gras a person opened up with a pistol on Canal Street. He wasn't trying to hit anybody, just making noise. The "group" I was hosting started to run. I grabbed them, stopped them from running and told them just to pay attention to their surroundings, as nobody knew where the shots had come from, so how would you know where to run!
My point is that this can be done anywhere, and in most of the cities I've been in, I would say it's more likely to happen because of the crowding.
People are alot like locusts. Crowd them to much and they become dangerous.
Have you ever seen the murder stats from cities like New Orleans? I currently live in a somewhat rural area and so far, the murder rate for the year is nill...
Maybe I should blame it on a over-abundance of gun control in the DC area. (Don't worry, I won't do that, but it's as arbitrary as anything else.)
Homo Sapiens are the only creatures on this planet that kill for no apparent reason. And, there isn't anything you can do to stop them, or deter them. It's just a fact of life.
I hope you meant this as a joke, cause it's one of the strangest statements that I've ever heard.
Hell, I've got an idea. I'll run for dictator and mandate that we implement your idea of urban "stuffing". And, as part of the mandate, we'll do away with any type of "single family dwelling".
From now on, a minimum of 2 families must live in every home.
Can't find a family you want to live with? Let me know and you will be assigned one.
Well, if Hollywood goes away, won't it be interesting to see what fills the niche? After all, something/someone will see the niche and find a way to make a living from it...
Two weeks ago I went to the "Presidents Critical Infrastructure Protection Board". The idea of making presidential advisors available to the industry, in the form of "town meetings" is to raise awareness for computer and network security.
The governments idea is to "convince the bulk of the general public" to do what they can to shield their computers until market forces cause computer hardware and software to be built with the primary idea of security from the start. The people at the meeting figured that this could be achieved in five years.
So, for MS to charge for this as a separate item, they would have to ignore the government and the up-and-coming "market forces". Well, they are Microsoft.....
Actually, I find that if I install netscape on a users machine, and remove the ability to easily startup IE, I get no complaints. After removing that, and making outlook inaccessible, I have lots fewer admin problems.
Well, it may be prejudice, but I do care what an application is written in. And, I have, and will continue to, abort purchases of software that is written in VB.
I have been involved in large VB projects with excellent VB programmers. Here is what I learned.
There are many things that VB doesn't do well, if at all. So, the programmers ended up coding portions in Visual C++. That in itself wasn't a problem. The problem was that the Visual Studio doesn't work well between it's various portions. In the last version of Visual Studio I used (and I don't intend on getting another), The VB and C++ GUI's didn't match. Well, at least they made some nebulous release date. So, that wasn't a good thing.
In dealing with the large database, VB had problems. For some reason, this was considered inherent in the included components. BUT, it could be fixed by buying some extras that were available.
And on, and on, and on...
So, where does this end? I have not only killed VB development and program purchasing in my company, but give unfair advantage to any product that works, and is written in what I would call a REAL language. Yes, in my small way I am trying to kill what I consider an inferior technology. It's my right, and if it forces 1 programmer to change from VB to something else (I've done that, also), I've done my job.
Personally, we have also examined.net and find it to be an interesting, but fairly useless, technology....
This may be a karma burner, but it's really how I feel, and how my company (it isn't suffering at all because of my decisions) is being run.
What I would ask is that the parties maintaining the GPL'd software in question put forth some extra effort to help EPSON straighten this situation out!
If, as I suspect, we have a friend in Epson, then lets do what we can. Let's show companies that if they work with us, we'll bust our *sses to work with them.
I wish most of the people who have posted on this thread had "carefully" read the parent message.
In his message, LBU.Zorro pointed out that, using this logic, electronics couldn't be allowed in checked baggage either. It would be too easy to setup a laptop, walkman, blender, etc. as a UWB "bomb" that would activate after the plane was in flight.
So, it's not just a problem with not being able to "type a document while flying". It's a problem with not being able to transport the tools necessary to do your job by air.
So for all those who figured they were providing the opinion, "you fly on the ones that allow electronics, but I won't", well you probably won't have to fly at all, because you won't be able to carry the tools that made your flying a necessity in the first place.. Better start fighting for those Micky D's jobs! If you aren't a "local tech", then you won't be able to work in distant states...
As a tech who hasn't lived and worked in the same state for over 10 years, this is a Really Bad Thing (tm).
So, this is a problem that won't have a simple solution. Banning electronics will force more airlines into bankruptcy. And, it will affect the economy in a very bad way.
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Hey, using the vast amount of extra money that I make using Linux in business environments, I'll just buy your house after the foreclosure with the extra disposable income that using Linux affords me...
They are not removing the product activation to support thieves. They are removing it because they refused to discuss what changes were being made to the computer, so people who BOUGHT software chose to buy from somewhere else. (Yes, I was an Intuit user who tried TaxCut for the first time because of this).
They are apologizing because they told their customer base "This is how it will be", so Intuit's paying customers left....
Although I have yet to attempt "pro se", I do not feel I have ever been properly represented by any lawyers in my employ.
In every case where I have had to use a lawyer, they have taken my money and requested that I take the first deal offered. In the end, I end up paying thousands and negotiating a better deal than my lawyer would have even attempted. If I didn't employ a lawyer, then the courts/"other side" wouldn't even allow me to begin negotiations.
So, where all this goes is that I believe I should be allowed to go to the local library to electronically search case law. If for no other reason than to keep tabs on my own lawyer!
Personally Heinlein had it right.. I look forward to his vision of utopia...
You think Visual Studio.NET is good? You must still be in school!
Maybe not totally, but I'll bet they are feeling the pinch.
I guess that since this whole problem has become "mainstream" that I've kept aproximately $7000 that I would've happily put into someone elses pockets.
Why did I keep my money? Overpriced goods, and a dislike of their business practices. I know that the kids that I have raised don't purchase as many CDs as they would like becasue of our discussions regarding the "evils" of the MPAA/RIAA.
So, if these organizations would look at their business models, I would happily part with some of the current savings that I have reaped by not supporting the MPAA/RIAA. Unfortunately, I don't think they'll ever get the blind patronage that they have enjoyed in the past.
Just my 2 cents ($17 at the local record store)
Guns don't kill people, I do! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Because of the problem relating to the AbiWord fiasco, I will no longer allow people to use PayPal as an accepted method of payment for auctions that I run. While I know this may cause me some problems with the auctions, I'm afraid that I'm suffering from a case of "but for ____, there goes me".
So, I just wanted to let you know that I have tried to keep an open mind where PayPal was concerned. I do not feel that I can trust PayPal to accept payments relating to my life and business.
It's a shame, but I had just run my successful test group of auctions and am getting ready to roll out with a continuous stream of computer parts auctions.
Respectfully,
My name was here... Really...
For $0.99, I want .wav files. That way I can burn or format in whatever format I please. And, I don't have a Windows box.... Guess that's a problem?
And, they can take that to the bank.
This patent would seem to include all cash registers. Most have screens, and many use phonelines.
Next, they'll get Starbucks!!!
Actually, new car sales aren't helping, as everyone I know has opted not to get satellite radio. Yep, I know it's cool and all, it just comes down to "how many things do you need on a subscription plan".
Personally, radio in my car was just one too many. Apparently I'm not the only one who feels that way.
Actually, I usually customize the hell out of my stereo and don't buy anything from the dealer. So, I easily spend $1000 on a car stereo, but just don't want the subscription.
Just my 2 cents (which I'll keep, thank you very much).
I don't think that Southwest was fighting so that they wouldn't have to do it. The fight was against a lawsuit that was going to get a lawyer paid.
I'll bet if someone had approached Southwest and offered TO HELP them with this problem, instead of filing a frivolous lawsuit, this problem might already be history.
After all, it isn't in Southwest's best interest to alienate customers.
This was just a play for money by an unscrupulous lawyer. Bang, dead, there I said it!
I'm from New Orleans, and he could operate that way there. If you are only interested in a one shot, then run, that can be done anywhere.
One Mardi Gras a person opened up with a pistol on Canal Street. He wasn't trying to hit anybody, just making noise. The "group" I was hosting started to run. I grabbed them, stopped them from running and told them just to pay attention to their surroundings, as nobody knew where the shots had come from, so how would you know where to run!
My point is that this can be done anywhere, and in most of the cities I've been in, I would say it's more likely to happen because of the crowding.
People are alot like locusts. Crowd them to much and they become dangerous.
Have you ever seen the murder stats from cities like New Orleans? I currently live in a somewhat rural area and so far, the murder rate for the year is nill...
Maybe I should blame it on a over-abundance of gun control in the DC area. (Don't worry, I won't do that, but it's as arbitrary as anything else.)
Homo Sapiens are the only creatures on this planet that kill for no apparent reason. And, there isn't anything you can do to stop them, or deter them. It's just a fact of life.
I hope you meant this as a joke, cause it's one of the strangest statements that I've ever heard.
Hell, I've got an idea. I'll run for dictator and mandate that we implement your idea of urban "stuffing". And, as part of the mandate, we'll do away with any type of "single family dwelling".
From now on, a minimum of 2 families must live in every home.
Can't find a family you want to live with? Let me know and you will be assigned one.
There, terrorism problems solved.
Karma to burn, also...
This is a real error message from my Air Force days:
Error SuckMudBug: Take her down Scotty, she's sucking mud again.
Well, if Hollywood goes away, won't it be interesting to see what fills the niche? After all, something/someone will see the niche and find a way to make a living from it...
Two weeks ago I went to the "Presidents Critical Infrastructure Protection Board". The idea of making presidential advisors available to the industry, in the form of "town meetings" is to raise awareness for computer and network security.
The governments idea is to "convince the bulk of the general public" to do what they can to shield their computers until market forces cause computer hardware and software to be built with the primary idea of security from the start. The people at the meeting figured that this could be achieved in five years.
So, for MS to charge for this as a separate item, they would have to ignore the government and the up-and-coming "market forces". Well, they are Microsoft.....
Actually, I find that if I install netscape on a users machine, and remove the ability to easily startup IE, I get no complaints. After removing that, and making outlook inaccessible, I have lots fewer admin problems.
Life can be so cool at times.
that their low sales are due to the pirating of their music?
Poor guys....
They need to keep a list of only the people who voted for them. Then, just accept emails from people on the list.
If you send an email "they" don't like, they respond, then take you off the list.
See, no problem!
If you don't review the CD under their terms, then NEXT time they send a CD out for review, you won't be invited to the party.
The solution can be fairly low-tech because you only get to break their trust once.
Well, it may be prejudice, but I do care what an application is written in. And, I have, and will continue to, abort purchases of software that is written in VB.
.net and find it to be an interesting, but fairly useless, technology....
I have been involved in large VB projects with excellent VB programmers. Here is what I learned.
There are many things that VB doesn't do well, if at all. So, the programmers ended up coding portions in Visual C++. That in itself wasn't a problem. The problem was that the Visual Studio doesn't work well between it's various portions. In the last version of Visual Studio I used (and I don't intend on getting another), The VB and C++ GUI's didn't match. Well, at least they made some nebulous release date. So, that wasn't a good thing.
In dealing with the large database, VB had problems. For some reason, this was considered inherent in the included components. BUT, it could be fixed by buying some extras that were available.
And on, and on, and on...
So, where does this end? I have not only killed VB development and program purchasing in my company, but give unfair advantage to any product that works, and is written in what I would call a REAL language. Yes, in my small way I am trying to kill what I consider an inferior technology. It's my right, and if it forces 1 programmer to change from VB to something else (I've done that, also), I've done my job.
Personally, we have also examined
This may be a karma burner, but it's really how I feel, and how my company (it isn't suffering at all because of my decisions) is being run.
What I would ask is that the parties maintaining the GPL'd software in question put forth some extra effort to help EPSON straighten this situation out!
If, as I suspect, we have a friend in Epson, then lets do what we can. Let's show companies that if they work with us, we'll bust our *sses to work with them.
That was my 2 cents. Where's my change.
Here is the correct link for Radio UserLand.
I wish most of the people who have posted on this thread had "carefully" read the parent message.
In his message, LBU.Zorro pointed out that, using this logic, electronics couldn't be allowed in checked baggage either. It would be too easy to setup a laptop, walkman, blender, etc. as a UWB "bomb" that would activate after the plane was in flight.
So, it's not just a problem with not being able to "type a document while flying". It's a problem with not being able to transport the tools necessary to do your job by air.
So for all those who figured they were providing the opinion, "you fly on the ones that allow electronics, but I won't", well you probably won't have to fly at all, because you won't be able to carry the tools that made your flying a necessity in the first place.. Better start fighting for those Micky D's jobs! If you aren't a "local tech", then you won't be able to work in distant states...
As a tech who hasn't lived and worked in the same state for over 10 years, this is a Really Bad Thing (tm).
So, this is a problem that won't have a simple solution. Banning electronics will force more airlines into bankruptcy. And, it will affect the economy in a very bad way.
That is the game I missed.
My brother and I used to play these games to settle everything from arguments to where to head out on Friday nights...
Ahh, the people at the local grocery knew us well while their Defender and Stargate machines worked....