He must have missed that the average gamer is his age or older. Us mid 20s - mid 30s ARE the target market. Video games since we grew up with them and have disposable cash.
"IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT, PROMPTLY RETURN THE UNUSED SOFTWARE PROGRAM TO THE PLACE OF PURCHASE, OR CONTACT BLIZZARD CUSTOMER SERVICE AT (800) 592-5499 FOR A FULL REFUND OF THE PURCHASE PRICE WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE ORIGINAL PURCHASE. "
And the store will tell you (as you didn't even read the EULA), that blizzard is responsible for returns up to 30 days after purchase and are the ones you have to go to (as per the EULA) for your money back.
Its exactly as serious as the black rappers rapping about how hard they had it growing up in an Ivy League school and how hard they now have it as millionaires.
Except of course the only way to get the setup.exe to install is if it doesn't detect bf2 already on your computer. If it detects it it only gives you the option to modify or uninstalling. Modify doesn't 'reinstall' it just lets you remove the optional stuff or add it if you didn't have it before.
So suggesting a 'reinstall' is exactly the same for BF2 as uninstalling and installing anew.
The only way to play without the patch is to reinstall if you've already updated which most people have as the Official servers updated and then rolled back.
The person opening the port on the machine (in the corporate world) is almost never the person opening the port on the firewall. There is a separation of responsibility.
As for #2, we're talking about an age of root kits where someone with 0 knowledge of firewalls could comprosmise a given system without being able to compromise any host his kit doesn't know about.
First off, welcome to the year 2005. A written signature is not required for a contract to be legal.
If you sign up for a reoccuring subscription it is your responsibility to inform the company to cancel it in some means other than by not paying them any more.
So a long standing business plan (ie Automatic subscription renewel) is now equivalent with genocide....nice.
Frankly the level of stupidity is higher on/. People who take the post without reading the article as you obviously didn't.
I'd be pretty suprised if Wired loses any measurable percentage of subscribers because of this.
Which isn't to say that they may end up changing their notification of renewing subscriptions that are past due to alleviate consumer concerns. Just the morons here are totally blowing this out of proportion.
Remember that next time you go to get a car/house loan and are rejected or offered unfavorable terms because of delinquencies on your credit report that could have been prevented by you challenging the charges.
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I wish people would quit citing this horrible unsubstantiate link written by a 'tough guy' game rental store owner
2old2play and doodi sounds more like a name fitting an early teens gaming clan.
It only shows the lack of maturity that the anonymous internet can bring to us 'elderly' folk.
He must have missed that the average gamer is his age or older. Us mid 20s - mid 30s ARE the target market. Video games since we grew up with them and have disposable cash.
"via older software systems that run on large, mainframe computers rather than individual PCs"
There are newer large mainframe computers.
"Because I strongly believe that I signed this "contract" under pressure, and thus it is invalid. "
You were not under duress. Nobody was holding a gun against your head.
"There is no specific law discussing this, and it would be up to the courts to decide whether I was wrong or not. However,"
Yes there is, look up contract law and search for duress.
People keep bringing this up. It isn't a valid complaint in the case of World of Warcraft
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/eula.html
"IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT, PROMPTLY RETURN THE UNUSED SOFTWARE PROGRAM TO THE PLACE OF PURCHASE, OR CONTACT BLIZZARD CUSTOMER SERVICE AT (800) 592-5499 FOR A FULL REFUND OF THE PURCHASE PRICE WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE ORIGINAL PURCHASE. "
Where have you been living that you don't know a signature isn't required for a contract to be enforcable.
And the store will tell you (as you didn't even read the EULA), that blizzard is responsible for returns up to 30 days after purchase and are the ones you have to go to (as per the EULA) for your money back.
yup no fear. Annoyed yes. Fear no.
I'm afraid of stinging insects.
Fear is a gotcha word for the people on the other side of the arguement. Oh, they don't like me, so they must fear me.
Not true.
The people calling things they don't like 'gay' and calling people they don't like 'fags' in online games aren't generally homophobic.
Mostly they're just immature.
"Hatred is a sign of fear."
People like to say this, but it is not patently true in all cases.
I HATE broccoli. I do not fear it.
I HATE the annoying software guy my team works with. I do not fear him.
Its exactly as serious as the black rappers rapping about how hard they had it growing up in an Ivy League school and how hard they now have it as millionaires.
The impact to the economy is temporary even if they do nothing but fix the dup and ban the dupers.
Every time a BOE item is equipped money vanishes from the economy permanently.
What made you think this was an IT news site.
Its not, never was and never was meant to be.
Go read the faq.
"games beyond the traditional demographic of males between the age of 14-24"
Especially since the demographic is now generally older than 24
Except of course the only way to get the setup.exe to install is if it doesn't detect bf2 already on your computer. If it detects it it only gives you the option to modify or uninstalling. Modify doesn't 'reinstall' it just lets you remove the optional stuff or add it if you didn't have it before.
So suggesting a 'reinstall' is exactly the same for BF2 as uninstalling and installing anew.
The only way to play without the patch is to reinstall if you've already updated which most people have as the Official servers updated and then rolled back.
The person opening the port on the machine (in the corporate world) is almost never the person opening the port on the firewall. There is a separation of responsibility.
As for #2, we're talking about an age of root kits where someone with 0 knowledge of firewalls could comprosmise a given system without being able to compromise any host his kit doesn't know about.
Right up until:
1) Somebody doesn't follow proper procedure and opens it anyway
2) Your machine is compromized by some other means.
First off, welcome to the year 2005. A written signature is not required for a contract to be legal.
If you sign up for a reoccuring subscription it is your responsibility to inform the company to cancel it in some means other than by not paying them any more.
So a long standing business plan (ie Automatic subscription renewel) is now equivalent with genocide....nice.
/. People who take the post without reading the article as you obviously didn't.
Frankly the level of stupidity is higher on
I'd be pretty suprised if Wired loses any measurable percentage of subscribers because of this.
Which isn't to say that they may end up changing their notification of renewing subscriptions that are past due to alleviate consumer concerns. Just the morons here are totally blowing this out of proportion.
They weren't ex-customers. They had subscribed to a rewnewing subscription. They were current subscribers who had become delinquent in their payments.
Try reading the article next time.
Remember that next time you go to get a car/house loan and are rejected or offered unfavorable terms because of delinquencies on your credit report that could have been prevented by you challenging the charges.
It is your responsibility to read your subscription agreement.
If you agree to a renewing subscription and do not pay it, you have only yourself to blame.
If you ignore any request for payment from any company even if its fraudulent you again have only yourself to blame if you do not challenge it.
Uselessness is not a requirement for Art.