The only case about third parties unlocking then selling was settled, and an injunction issued as part of the settlement, as agreed upon by the parties involved. The court issued the injunction at the parties' request, not on it's own behalf. So as of now, the only thing set in stone is the DMCA exemption. Whether a third party can do it or not has not been decided in court.
To provide another perspective, I live in Austin as well, and no one I know is "going apeshit." They think it's a great idea.
But I completely see your logic...why make it a legal issue? Why should we require kids to get ANY vaccinations? We should just make them all optional. What kind of dumb person would want to eradicate something that causes cancer? It makes absolutely no sense to me. Fuck vaccines, yay diseases!
the quality of Mac hardware has plummeted now that they have been forced to turn to Intel for chips and I don't see many people rushing to trade in their existing non-Mac hardware.
I'm sorry, what? I fail to see even the slightest logical connection in the switch to Intel chips being due to the low quality of Apple hardware.
What exactly are you comparing the quality to? Certainly not your average PC...
Right. An OS is nothing without applications. Explain how Apple can release OS X for a generic PC and have people buy it when there are no applications for it. What's the replacement for Office? Oh, that's right. When Apple competes directly with with MS, there WILL NOT be Office for OS X.
Um...20-30 gigs? I used a 10 gig partition and installed Windows XP Pro, and still have around 7.8 gigs free on that partition. Yeah, that's not enough to keep more than one or two DVD sized games on there, but uh...who would keep 4 gig disk images on a 100 gig laptop harddrive?
Usually it's money laundering you get accused of, and a HUGE number of money laundering cases (legit ones) are drug related. I want to say the limit is either $7k or 10k cash.
Technically it SHOULD be an easy charge to beat, IF you got the money legitimately. If you didn't, or don't have a paper trail ("My friend loaned me $10 grand for...."), have fun!
Let's go over this, shall we? First, your process:
Search on iTunes for music you want. (5-10 minutes) Drive to Best Buy. (Best case: 5 minutes to get there/get inside, 5 minutes to find/purchase, 5 minutes to get home = 15 minutes. Cost: $12 + gas) Rip music to computer. (5 minutes)
Best case scenario: 30 minutes, $12 + gas
Any other reasonable person's process:
Search on iTunes for music you want. (5-10 minutes) Purchase/download music. (5-10 minutes. $10) Burn to CD. (5 minutes, $0.25) Rip to computer. (5 minutes)
Best case scenario (And this is far from the best case): 20 minutes, $10.25
No DRM, costs less, and takes less time (and probably a significant amount less). The only valid complaint you have is about audio quality, and well, I've always thought that anyone who actually expects great audio quality from something that fits in your pocket is missing the point of portable audio.
I hate responding to trolls, but I love making fun of people who like to hear themselves talk, and make retarded statements.
Not to mention you complain about never really owning the music due to DRM, yet you talk about copying a friend's collection. WTF?
So the article is about testing and reviewing Mac OS X on the x86 processor? Why the hell is the summary about the reasons behind why Apple isn't allowing it on any computer other than an Apple branded one? And not even full treatment of that...
Where in the world are you buying your cable TV from? Or is this one of those classic Slashdot price exaggerations like "CD's cost $20" when they really cost $12 from any large retailer? (Even the grossly overpriced music stores in the mall charge $18 or so for a CD)
Let me explain what he means briefly (or is perhaps alluding to in a less extreme manner):
There are only THREE channels that I would like cable/satellite for. I can't put up a satellite dish at my apartment (because of the way it faces), so cable is the only option. What are these channels?
Comedy Central and Cartoon Network require digital cable (through Time Warner). This costs ~$50 a month. Speed Channel. This requires the sports package. That's an ADDITIONAL $10 a month.
I don't really care about any others, except when I can afford an HDTV (at which point the cost of cable won't be much of an issue). So I have to pay ~$60 a month to watch three channels frequently. I'd MUCH rather pay, say, $15 a month and get only those three. But instead, I pay $0, and suffer the horrible, painful consequences (like posting on/.).
That's funny...the one button mouse argument that hasn't been an issue for years now...Hopefully you said that simply in jest at the grandparent making up claims out of thin air.
And I have never experienced those issues with the dock. You can turn magnification on and off without any issues. And the CLI is available in Mac OS X just as it is in Linux. And the Genie crap can be turned off.
Seriously, if you're going to bitch about someone making complaints up, don't make them up yourself.
I haven't been keeping up with the latest news, but I was under the impression that this was built into the game and then unlocked using a mod, NOT that the sex game was a mod itself.
And in other news, British music-related corporations have gotten an injunction against the BBC for purportedly releasing these symphonies before the agreed upon release date.
Ok, so this is definitely a believable situation that I could see arising. I don't know anything about how contracts work in this case, and I imagine that it would boil down to the SPECIFIC contract in this case, lets say that it was shown to be stolen goods.
But the customer had already sold the book to someone else, lets say at an incredibly high premium (as I'm sure could happen, because people are weird like that). What would happen? They might not have the right to have sold it, but how does recovery take place?
Would the customer have to give the proceeds up to someone? If so, who? And how much of them, just the amount of the book or the entire amount?
I'm sorry, but how do you prohibit the sale or providing information about a book that you PURCHASED, regardless of the date it's supposed to be released?
Am I missing something, or does that seem even more retarded than something our court systems would do?
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The only case about third parties unlocking then selling was settled, and an injunction issued as part of the settlement, as agreed upon by the parties involved. The court issued the injunction at the parties' request, not on it's own behalf. So as of now, the only thing set in stone is the DMCA exemption. Whether a third party can do it or not has not been decided in court.
To provide another perspective, I live in Austin as well, and no one I know is "going apeshit." They think it's a great idea.
But I completely see your logic...why make it a legal issue? Why should we require kids to get ANY vaccinations? We should just make them all optional. What kind of dumb person would want to eradicate something that causes cancer? It makes absolutely no sense to me. Fuck vaccines, yay diseases!
How is this automatically Dell's fault?
...what you all think regarding whether it's truly a jump in productivity or not.
*copies link, sends to boss.*
You know...I think you're trying to be sarcastic, but you shouldn't because you're actually correct.
Want to make a lot of money, do something the generates a lot of money. I can understand your point of view, but get real...
the quality of Mac hardware has plummeted now that they have been forced to turn to Intel for chips and I don't see many people rushing to trade in their existing non-Mac hardware.
I'm sorry, what? I fail to see even the slightest logical connection in the switch to Intel chips being due to the low quality of Apple hardware.
What exactly are you comparing the quality to? Certainly not your average PC...
Right. An OS is nothing without applications. Explain how Apple can release OS X for a generic PC and have people buy it when there are no applications for it. What's the replacement for Office? Oh, that's right. When Apple competes directly with with MS, there WILL NOT be Office for OS X.
Yeah, it's not nearly as simple as you think.
Um...20-30 gigs? I used a 10 gig partition and installed Windows XP Pro, and still have around 7.8 gigs free on that partition. Yeah, that's not enough to keep more than one or two DVD sized games on there, but uh...who would keep 4 gig disk images on a 100 gig laptop harddrive?
See MD vs. CD.
And really love some good flamewar action. So I saw "rips a new one" and was geared up for one hell of a great story.
Boy, was I wrong. I need to update my definition for that phrase.
Usually it's money laundering you get accused of, and a HUGE number of money laundering cases (legit ones) are drug related. I want to say the limit is either $7k or 10k cash.
Technically it SHOULD be an easy charge to beat, IF you got the money legitimately. If you didn't, or don't have a paper trail ("My friend loaned me $10 grand for...."), have fun!
Those last two comments were pretty fucking shitty. Normally I don't comment on things like this, but that's completely unnecessary.
*patiently waits for logic nazis to explain how it RAISES the question, not BEGS it.*
Troll much?
Let's go over this, shall we? First, your process:
Search on iTunes for music you want. (5-10 minutes)
Drive to Best Buy. (Best case: 5 minutes to get there/get inside, 5 minutes to find/purchase, 5 minutes to get home = 15 minutes. Cost: $12 + gas)
Rip music to computer. (5 minutes)
Best case scenario: 30 minutes, $12 + gas
Any other reasonable person's process:
Search on iTunes for music you want. (5-10 minutes)
Purchase/download music. (5-10 minutes. $10)
Burn to CD. (5 minutes, $0.25)
Rip to computer. (5 minutes)
Best case scenario (And this is far from the best case): 20 minutes, $10.25
No DRM, costs less, and takes less time (and probably a significant amount less). The only valid complaint you have is about audio quality, and well, I've always thought that anyone who actually expects great audio quality from something that fits in your pocket is missing the point of portable audio.
I hate responding to trolls, but I love making fun of people who like to hear themselves talk, and make retarded statements.
Not to mention you complain about never really owning the music due to DRM, yet you talk about copying a friend's collection. WTF?
Blake
With all these cases of Anthrax infections going around, this will be a boon for us!
So the article is about testing and reviewing Mac OS X on the x86 processor? Why the hell is the summary about the reasons behind why Apple isn't allowing it on any computer other than an Apple branded one? And not even full treatment of that...
In fact, they said that they will actually penalize sales divisions that create too high a profit margin.
No they didn't. THE KEY METRIC IN EVERY SINGLE SALES DIVISION IS MARGIN.
Oh wait, that's right, giving them the most incentive for selling margin is the best way to keep that in check.
Make sure you actually heard what you think you heard before you start spouting off.
But at least there'd be two copies of all the laws on the books!
Where in the world are you buying your cable TV from? Or is this one of those classic Slashdot price exaggerations like "CD's cost $20" when they really cost $12 from any large retailer? (Even the grossly overpriced music stores in the mall charge $18 or so for a CD)
/.).
Let me explain what he means briefly (or is perhaps alluding to in a less extreme manner):
There are only THREE channels that I would like cable/satellite for. I can't put up a satellite dish at my apartment (because of the way it faces), so cable is the only option. What are these channels?
Comedy Central and Cartoon Network require digital cable (through Time Warner). This costs ~$50 a month.
Speed Channel. This requires the sports package. That's an ADDITIONAL $10 a month.
I don't really care about any others, except when I can afford an HDTV (at which point the cost of cable won't be much of an issue). So I have to pay ~$60 a month to watch three channels frequently. I'd MUCH rather pay, say, $15 a month and get only those three. But instead, I pay $0, and suffer the horrible, painful consequences (like posting on
Blake
You know what they say about assumptions, right?
There is hardly enough supporting evidence. Are you planning on replacing Cringley when he retires?
Do you REALLY think that that is the only reason?
Blake
That's funny...the one button mouse argument that hasn't been an issue for years now...Hopefully you said that simply in jest at the grandparent making up claims out of thin air.
And I have never experienced those issues with the dock. You can turn magnification on and off without any issues. And the CLI is available in Mac OS X just as it is in Linux. And the Genie crap can be turned off.
Seriously, if you're going to bitch about someone making complaints up, don't make them up yourself.
I haven't been keeping up with the latest news, but I was under the impression that this was built into the game and then unlocked using a mod, NOT that the sex game was a mod itself.
In which case your whole post is pointless.
And in other news, British music-related corporations have gotten an injunction against the BBC for purportedly releasing these symphonies before the agreed upon release date.
Oh, wait, we're not talking about Canada?
Ok, so this is definitely a believable situation that I could see arising. I don't know anything about how contracts work in this case, and I imagine that it would boil down to the SPECIFIC contract in this case, lets say that it was shown to be stolen goods.
But the customer had already sold the book to someone else, lets say at an incredibly high premium (as I'm sure could happen, because people are weird like that). What would happen? They might not have the right to have sold it, but how does recovery take place?
Would the customer have to give the proceeds up to someone? If so, who? And how much of them, just the amount of the book or the entire amount?
Blake
I'm sorry, but how do you prohibit the sale or providing information about a book that you PURCHASED, regardless of the date it's supposed to be released?
Am I missing something, or does that seem even more retarded than something our court systems would do?
Blake