...the fucking OEMs will have already put a fucking media player on the fucking computer. THIS IS NOT for the shops, it's so the pre-installers can customise their offerings.
Now if only we could have one customised to remove IE... sadly the US DoJ wussed out.
FFS. Jeez, people like you need your heads banging on the table until you read up on stuff before commenting, and the moderators need their heads banging on the table till they can tell the difference between insightful and no-fucking-clue. Go ahead, mod me flamebait, but read on...
OEMs can take this and put Quicktime, or even a port of Xine into it - WHATEVER THEY THINK THE CUSTOMER WOULD LIKE INSTEAD!
That's the fucking point, not that customers would like something else - the savvy ones can already install it - but that OEMs have not been allowed to offer it, and that harms Quicktime (for example). That's the 'harm' part of monopoly abuse.
Justin. "Would you like 'Windows XP Home (N) with Quicktime' on your pre-installed hard drive, sir, or perhaps Xine? Or will you stick with the basic Windows Media Player?"
As we develop IE we go through very thorough and stringent security reviews to ensure that every change is secure and does not expose the user to attack.
This is not meant to be read by geeks, it's for PHBs. Either that or I'll have some of what he's smoking.
If you were to even scan the article, you'd realise that it's to a moving target a distance away.
Yeah, induction will still work, but your transmitter will be sucking so much power that it'll end up a fucking tesla coil, and I don't want to be the operator!
Hear that whoosh? That, my friend, was the entire point of EU case zooming over your high-user-number head. (This is standard/. abuse, don't be offended - I like the 'man ls' name btw).
It's not about bundling in shops, it's about the fact that OEMs are not permitted to rip out WMP and put in something else better. Or, indeed, rip out IE and put in something secure.
Now, if I were a business, and I wanted to buy 5000 pcs, why shouldn't the OEMs be allowed to tailor the machines to me? I would especially be interested in being able to buy machines without the well-known insecurities, but I am not permitted to. That, my friend, is monopoly abuse.
Books: I care. You can still buy rag-paper editions of lots of stuff. So although all the Geri Halliwell diet books will turn to lint, at least the Neil Gaiman Author's Editions will still be here. So that's OK;-)
Did you know the UK parliament still writes all its bills onto vellum and stores them, at a cost of about 80kgbp/year? It's still got the original bills from 1200 onwards as a result. Sadly the current misbegotten idiots want to stop it, to save 80k a year. Pah. No soul, these New Labour wonks.
Actually my best friend's father is an excellent independent singer songwriter See here, so you're definitely right that it can be done, but it's only feasable if you dare take it up as a full time career with all the risk. He gigs full time (to packed audiences, he's really good), to keep his sales up.
But to make real money, or do it without the risk, it's the cartel or nothing.
I have worked (for businesses) on entirely dumb terminal applications all the way through to full-on PC client applications. Tell me how rich it needs to be?
It's surprising how much cheaper it is to run a totally dumb client. You can have a single codebase running without caring: it's server side. You can have a set of rules which you download (JS/XUL etc). Or you can have a full-size client.
Often the only reason for running with a full client is because it's easier to develop. Not because it's necessary, just easy.
Now, while that is a damn valid business reason to do it, the cost is the risk of lock in (ActiveX will never run on anything but IE, and IE will only ever run well on Windows).
So as time passes, and Gnu/Linux offers everything that businesses want except ActiveX for much less, the cost of the lock in will exceed the extra cost of the development.
But this is rather the point of the punishment: People like the Samba team should be able to use the 'secret' APIs, thus preventing MS using them to make their desktop products interoperate better than their competitors!
"The day-age (progressive) creation account is non-literal and contradicts the clear teaching of Genesis." I hear or see this complaint quite often, although the statement is incorrect regarding both accusations. I take all of the biblical creation accounts literally. Nothing is symbolic. The Hebrew word yom has three literal meanings - a 12-hour period of time (sunrise to sunset), a 24-hour period of time from sunset to sunset (the Hebrew day), and an indefinite period of time. The day-age interpretation of Genesis does not require the use of symbolism to explain the creation account.
No, we always have had. They have responsibility for making sure people don't fall under the wheels, that the doors are properly shut (in the old days before automatic doors) and that people behave reasonably. They are the people who will call the transport police (special police for railways) if need be, for example.
Except that computers are a bit more of a real life skill than quantum, and it would be rather more useful for the Brazilian nation if they could better understand the OS they are using and who knows, even write code for it.
What they need is a new release for people like you (and me on my servers). They could call it Debian 'OldButFuckingSolidAsARock'. Then stable could be, say, approximately a year later subject to pretty damn good stability (after all, no software can be guaranteed perfect yet), unstable and testing to follow.
Three levels just isn't enough to grade sensibly from known-near-perfect to bleeding-edge.
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"Friends don't let friends put Windows on networks"
J.
Which would leave them open to damages claims.
J.
They will stick iTunes and Quicktime on there and everyone will be really happy and sing all day.
...the fucking OEMs will have already put a fucking media player on the fucking computer. THIS IS NOT for the shops, it's so the pre-installers can customise their offerings.
Now if only we could have one customised to remove IE... sadly the US DoJ wussed out.
Justin.
FFS. Jeez, people like you need your heads banging on the table until you read up on stuff before commenting, and the moderators need their heads banging on the table till they can tell the difference between insightful and no-fucking-clue. Go ahead, mod me flamebait, but read on...
OEMs can take this and put Quicktime, or even a port of Xine into it - WHATEVER THEY THINK THE CUSTOMER WOULD LIKE INSTEAD!
That's the fucking point, not that customers would like something else - the savvy ones can already install it - but that OEMs have not been allowed to offer it, and that harms Quicktime (for example). That's the 'harm' part of monopoly abuse.
Justin.
"Would you like 'Windows XP Home (N) with Quicktime' on your pre-installed hard drive, sir, or perhaps Xine? Or will you stick with the basic Windows Media Player?"
Maybe now they are... but not for the last ten years.
That's why friends don't let friends put Windows on networks.
J.
Yep. It's the old question: are you lying or incompetent?
J.
This is not meant to be read by geeks, it's for PHBs. Either that or I'll have some of what he's smoking.
Justin.
If you were to even scan the article, you'd realise that it's to a moving target a distance away.
Yeah, induction will still work, but your transmitter will be sucking so much power that it'll end up a fucking tesla coil, and I don't want to be the operator!
Justin.
Hear that whoosh? That, my friend, was the entire point of EU case zooming over your high-user-number head. (This is standard /. abuse, don't be offended - I like the 'man ls' name btw).
It's not about bundling in shops, it's about the fact that OEMs are not permitted to rip out WMP and put in something else better. Or, indeed, rip out IE and put in something secure.
Now, if I were a business, and I wanted to buy 5000 pcs, why shouldn't the OEMs be allowed to tailor the machines to me? I would especially be interested in being able to buy machines without the well-known insecurities, but I am not permitted to. That, my friend, is monopoly abuse.
Justin.
Did you know the UK parliament still writes all its bills onto vellum and stores them, at a cost of about 80kgbp/year? It's still got the original bills from 1200 onwards as a result. Sadly the current misbegotten idiots want to stop it, to save 80k a year. Pah. No soul, these New Labour wonks.
Justin.
So the question becomes what have I bought?
Justin.
Justin.
Yeah, but we burn faggots. (Or eat 'em with gravy...) J.
Should we tell Pixar that, here in Britain, 'cottagers' are men who go looking for rough sex with other men in public lavatories (cottages)?
J.
But to make real money, or do it without the risk, it's the cartel or nothing.
Justin.
Which, given there is only one means worth looking at, amounts to... sell your soul or give up!
Seriously, if you want to release your music, you stand no chance whatsoever, unless you sign up with the cartel. So you have no choice at all.
J.
Suggest you read the multitude of other comments, saying how they have already switched...
Justin.
You could always fit a web front end (password protected) that turned 80 into the ssh port for a while...
Might need a second IP address if you have web stuff running.
J.
I have worked (for businesses) on entirely dumb terminal applications all the way through to full-on PC client applications. Tell me how rich it needs to be?
It's surprising how much cheaper it is to run a totally dumb client. You can have a single codebase running without caring: it's server side. You can have a set of rules which you download (JS/XUL etc). Or you can have a full-size client.
Often the only reason for running with a full client is because it's easier to develop. Not because it's necessary, just easy.
Now, while that is a damn valid business reason to do it, the cost is the risk of lock in (ActiveX will never run on anything but IE, and IE will only ever run well on Windows).
So as time passes, and Gnu/Linux offers everything that businesses want except ActiveX for much less, the cost of the lock in will exceed the extra cost of the development.
Just watch...
Justin.
But this is rather the point of the punishment: People like the Samba team should be able to use the 'secret' APIs, thus preventing MS using them to make their desktop products interoperate better than their competitors!
Justin.
"The day-age (progressive) creation account is non-literal and contradicts the clear teaching of Genesis." I hear or see this complaint quite often, although the statement is incorrect regarding both accusations. I take all of the biblical creation accounts literally. Nothing is symbolic. The Hebrew word yom has three literal meanings - a 12-hour period of time (sunrise to sunset), a 24-hour period of time from sunset to sunset (the Hebrew day), and an indefinite period of time . The day-age interpretation of Genesis does not require the use of symbolism to explain the creation account.
My emphasis. Full article here
Justin.
Incidentally atheist, but above all scientist
No, we always have had. They have responsibility for making sure people don't fall under the wheels, that the doors are properly shut (in the old days before automatic doors) and that people behave reasonably. They are the people who will call the transport police (special police for railways) if need be, for example.
J.
Except that computers are a bit more of a real life skill than quantum, and it would be rather more useful for the Brazilian nation if they could better understand the OS they are using and who knows, even write code for it.
Justin.
What they need is a new release for people like you (and me on my servers). They could call it Debian 'OldButFuckingSolidAsARock'. Then stable could be, say, approximately a year later subject to pretty damn good stability (after all, no software can be guaranteed perfect yet), unstable and testing to follow.
Three levels just isn't enough to grade sensibly from known-near-perfect to bleeding-edge.
J.