This isn't the final interface. The final interface is codenamed Aero and is fully hardware-accelerated and "photorealistic."
The only good thing about Longhorn is WinFS. Something that the Linux community should embrace.
This is exactly why Microsoft have withheld Aero from these beta builds, because they are concerned that people will rip off their new desktop concept.
I'm looking forward to Y-Windows. It's already at 0.2, and developers are finishing the core widget set. The PDF on the website describes what's wrong with XFree86 and what Y is gonna fix.
Because 200MB is with Word, Excel, Access, Powerpoint, and Outlook.
That 100MB of Open Office is the source code alone.
Office takes 2 seconds to start. Open Office takes 15. I don't know what else to tell you. Nothing is wrong with my laptop. Open Office is widely known to be bloated and slow. Everything is reimplemented for no good reason.
I'll promptly delete the 100MB+ source code to Open Office, that app which takes 15 seconds to load on my laptop after taking two days to compile (twice as long as it takes for Microsoft to compile all of Windows itself, which takes a day).
...these originate from user-run attachments and so are easily prevented if you're not a moron.
I know the intent of posting this article was for Slashdot to somehow illustrate how "bad" Microsoft holes are to the point that there are turf wars going on between worm writers, but these things would go on no matter the operating system. Users are dumb enough to be running these things.
I haven't seen executable attachments in my Inbox in years. Outlook won't even download them from the server. I don't know what else to say.
Uh, the source of the leak was already identified long ago. It came from a Linux machine on a certain corporate network. Of course, you never saw that reported here, because this is Slashdot. It would destroy all the hairbrained "M$" conspiracy theories that continue to make the community look bad.
Bill Gates dares claim Windows is better than Linux in some obscure keynote speech, and it gets a front page headline of "Bill Gates Takes Swipe At Linux." Then an article gets posted called "Microsoft Violates Human Rights In China" simply because Windows is sold there--ignoring the fact that KDE removed the Taiwanese flag to be there, and China actually houses its own custom Linux distribution.
Now it's an entire article about an "anonymous e-mail" that ESR even admits he can't certify.
No, it's not. The rest of Slashdot automatically believes it because it's an anonymous e-mail that conveniently repeates the amount of money "M$" gave over and over and over. Look how some people are thinking the FTC would actually do something over an anonymous, unverified, random e-mail some guy called Eric Raymond received in his inbox.
Pretty suspicious, but hey. It meets the anti-"M$" quota for Thursday.
It's an unverified, uncertified, anonymous Internet e-mail. You would really go into court saying, "ESR got an e-mail from an anonymous source, do something"?
Ah, the closed worldview of a Slashdotter. Linux having something like 0.003% of the desktop is somehow making "inroads."
What Linux heat? Slashdotters tend to get this perspective that what happens at Slashdot represents the whole world. Have you even seen the computers that the mainstream uses? It's completely Windows out there.
Let me know when you visit IGN and they actually announce a commercial Linux game.
He's asking about Outlook 2003. This is about "next generatoin mail clients."
For what it's worth, the author attempts to give an excuse for not reviewing it. But then you can't really consider it a complete review if you conveniently exclude the newest major version of one of the most widely-used e-mail clients.
...why is everyone automatically believing an "anonymous e-mail?"
Eric himself says "I cannot certify its authenticity."
I'm sure everyone believes Microsoft has something to do with SCO (to not believe such would go against the Slashdot mindset), but this doesn't actually prove anything. Everyone's discussing it as if it's automatically true.
All I can guess is that with your head stuck up your ass, the traditional "69" position takes on more of an "86" configration, so for you that seems dirty.
Is there any particular reason you're being so insulting? You come off as a basement-dwelling, anti-social troll.
All it had to take was "The article said other numbers work." Yes, I did read the article. I must have missed that part. Thanks for the info.
...and is more likely just a result of their crappy search engine.
What are probably the most common search terms for porn? "free xxx" "free x porn" etc.
The 86 is probably just seen as garbage, as the "x" and the "free" are ranked highly as likely pornographic search terms in its database.
Like I said, piss-poor search engine design. But no conspiracy theory. Though I expect nothing less from Slashdot posting an entire article on the fact that "XFree86" gives a weird warning on some search engine.
The only solutions seems to be to use things like Epiphany. Fair enough, but Epiphany lacks a lot of the configurable features that vanilla Mozilla and even Firefox have.
Mozilla is too damned slow and takes too much memory implementing all of its own widgets. Why did they think this was a good idea? Seriously, just asking because I'm curious why.
Uh, human interface guidelines are supposed to describe the ways a user and program interact with each other. Of course that belongs in there, along with everything else.
It seems strange to make some sort of arbitrary distinction.
Regarding compilation: I'm using Gentoo.:) Took me 14 hours for KDE. And, yes, believe it or not, it does take 4 seconds for the Home folder to open, and I did have my correct optimizations and everything.
As for that new Control Center, my god--when can we expect that?
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This isn't the final interface. The final interface is codenamed Aero and is fully hardware-accelerated and "photorealistic."
The only good thing about Longhorn is WinFS. Something that the Linux community should embrace.
This is exactly why Microsoft have withheld Aero from these beta builds, because they are concerned that people will rip off their new desktop concept.
I'm looking forward to Y-Windows. It's already at 0.2, and developers are finishing the core widget set. The PDF on the website describes what's wrong with XFree86 and what Y is gonna fix.
This is ridiculous. It's an unverified anonymous e-mail that is probably faked (look how many times it mentions the millions, which looks silly).
It's not "another reason" to do anything, and not proof of anything. Your post offers absolutely no insight.
Because 200MB is with Word, Excel, Access, Powerpoint, and Outlook.
That 100MB of Open Office is the source code alone.
Office takes 2 seconds to start. Open Office takes 15. I don't know what else to tell you. Nothing is wrong with my laptop. Open Office is widely known to be bloated and slow. Everything is reimplemented for no good reason.
Big bloated office apps are bad, gotcha.
I'll promptly delete the 100MB+ source code to Open Office, that app which takes 15 seconds to load on my laptop after taking two days to compile (twice as long as it takes for Microsoft to compile all of Windows itself, which takes a day).
The use of Tracking Changes magically becomes "another example of security breaches?"
Turn off the damn tracking changes. Or strip them using Microsoft's free tool.
Why in the hell was this modded up as insightful? What insight does it gleam?
...these originate from user-run attachments and so are easily prevented if you're not a moron.
I know the intent of posting this article was for Slashdot to somehow illustrate how "bad" Microsoft holes are to the point that there are turf wars going on between worm writers, but these things would go on no matter the operating system. Users are dumb enough to be running these things.
I haven't seen executable attachments in my Inbox in years. Outlook won't even download them from the server. I don't know what else to say.
Uh, the source of the leak was already identified long ago. It came from a Linux machine on a certain corporate network. Of course, you never saw that reported here, because this is Slashdot. It would destroy all the hairbrained "M$" conspiracy theories that continue to make the community look bad.
Bill Gates dares claim Windows is better than Linux in some obscure keynote speech, and it gets a front page headline of "Bill Gates Takes Swipe At Linux." Then an article gets posted called "Microsoft Violates Human Rights In China" simply because Windows is sold there--ignoring the fact that KDE removed the Taiwanese flag to be there, and China actually houses its own custom Linux distribution.
Now it's an entire article about an "anonymous e-mail" that ESR even admits he can't certify.
Predictably, this post has received some mysterious "overrated" moderations.
How dare you mod down an opinion you disagree with. You reply and disagree. You don't silence someone.
No, it's not. The rest of Slashdot automatically believes it because it's an anonymous e-mail that conveniently repeates the amount of money "M$" gave over and over and over. Look how some people are thinking the FTC would actually do something over an anonymous, unverified, random e-mail some guy called Eric Raymond received in his inbox.
Pretty suspicious, but hey. It meets the anti-"M$" quota for Thursday.
It's an unverified, uncertified, anonymous Internet e-mail. You would really go into court saying, "ESR got an e-mail from an anonymous source, do something"?
Ah, the closed worldview of a Slashdotter. Linux having something like 0.003% of the desktop is somehow making "inroads."
What Linux heat? Slashdotters tend to get this perspective that what happens at Slashdot represents the whole world. Have you even seen the computers that the mainstream uses? It's completely Windows out there.
Let me know when you visit IGN and they actually announce a commercial Linux game.
He's asking about Outlook 2003. This is about "next generatoin mail clients."
For what it's worth, the author attempts to give an excuse for not reviewing it. But then you can't really consider it a complete review if you conveniently exclude the newest major version of one of the most widely-used e-mail clients.
So are you arguing that nobody should have given us this project? Come on.
...why is everyone automatically believing an "anonymous e-mail?"
Eric himself says "I cannot certify its authenticity."
I'm sure everyone believes Microsoft has something to do with SCO (to not believe such would go against the Slashdot mindset), but this doesn't actually prove anything. Everyone's discussing it as if it's automatically true.
All I can guess is that with your head stuck up your ass, the traditional "69" position takes on more of an "86" configration, so for you that seems dirty.
Is there any particular reason you're being so insulting? You come off as a basement-dwelling, anti-social troll.
All it had to take was "The article said other numbers work." Yes, I did read the article. I must have missed that part. Thanks for the info.
...and is more likely just a result of their crappy search engine.
What are probably the most common search terms for porn? "free xxx" "free x porn" etc.
The 86 is probably just seen as garbage, as the "x" and the "free" are ranked highly as likely pornographic search terms in its database.
Like I said, piss-poor search engine design. But no conspiracy theory. Though I expect nothing less from Slashdot posting an entire article on the fact that "XFree86" gives a weird warning on some search engine.
It's called Duke Nukem...and it's taking Forever.
Firefox still implements its own widgets.
The only solutions seems to be to use things like Epiphany. Fair enough, but Epiphany lacks a lot of the configurable features that vanilla Mozilla and even Firefox have.
Faster than Gnome?
Gnome = 1 second to open a folder. Maybe 4 to load an app.
KDE = 4 seconds just to open a folder. I've waited 10-12 seconds for an app to load.
This is on a Gentoo Stage 1 compiled laptop. KDE 3.2 did not fix any of the core usability issues.
Why is my post a troll?
I told them I compiled KDE, and then I said it takes 4 seconds to open any folder.
Then I expressed my desire for the new control center.
Someone's targetting me.
Translation: let's basically DDOS their phone system.
If it was their website, you'd have a bunch of moralists telling you how bad it is to be doing it.
Mozilla is too damned slow and takes too much memory implementing all of its own widgets. Why did they think this was a good idea? Seriously, just asking because I'm curious why.
Uh, human interface guidelines are supposed to describe the ways a user and program interact with each other. Of course that belongs in there, along with everything else.
It seems strange to make some sort of arbitrary distinction.
Regarding compilation: I'm using Gentoo. :) Took me 14 hours for KDE. And, yes, believe it or not, it does take 4 seconds for the Home folder to open, and I did have my correct optimizations and everything.
As for that new Control Center, my god--when can we expect that?