I take it you don't watch american daytime television, where every third commercial between ads for sugar beverages and ads for weight loss products is some legal firm asking if you've been wronged by someone, and offering to help with a "free consultation."
"We'll stand up for YOUR rights!" Yeah, right. And YOUR pocketbook.
So if I actually had kids who went out and copycatted these kids, could I sue the original parents/kids for inspiring these crimes and claim back all the money they sued. It could form a chain... with the people committing the most recent crime always having the money. This is all madness...
No, the pot of money would decrease 40% on each iteration for the lawyers to take their cut.
As it has been said before, the only ones that win are the greedy, filthy lawyers.
(Not all attorneys are bad either. My uncle is a family law attorney in a small, blue-collar town, and gets to deal with all sorts of difficult situations for rather modest pay.)
Who's the idiot now? "Remove show, open mouth, insert foot.".plan Update for John Carmack:
" Name: John Carmack Email: Description: Programmer Project: Jan 29, 2003 ------------ NV30 vs R300, current developments, etc
At the moment, the NV30 is slightly faster on most scenes in Doom than the R300, but I can still find some scenes where the R300 pulls a little bit ahead. The issue is complicated because of the different ways the cards can choose to run the game.
The R300 can run Doom in three different modes: ARB (minimum extensions, no specular highlights, no vertex programs), R200 (full featured, almost always single pass interaction rendering), ARB2 (floating point fragment shaders, minor quality improvements, always single pass).
The NV30 can run DOOM in five different modes: ARB, NV10 (full featured, five rendering passes, no vertex programs), NV20 (full featured, two or three rendering passes), NV30 ( full featured, single pass), and ARB2.
The R200 path has a slight speed advantage over the ARB2 path on the R300, but only by a small margin, so it defaults to using the ARB2 path for the quality improvements. The NV30 runs the ARB2 path MUCH slower than the NV30 path. Half the speed at the moment. This is unfortunate, because when you do an exact, apples-to-apples comparison using exactly the same API, the R300 looks twice as fast, but when you use the vendor-specific paths, the NV30 wins.
The reason for this is that ATI does everything at high precision all the time, while Nvidia internally supports three different precisions with different performances. To make it even more complicated, the exact precision that ATI uses is in between the floating point precisions offered by Nvidia, so when Nvidia runs fragment programs, they are at a higher precision than ATI's, which is some justification for the slower speed. Nvidia assures me that there is a lot of room for improving the fragment program performance with improved driver compiler technology.
The current NV30 cards do have some other disadvantages: They take up two slots, and when the cooling fan fires up they are VERY LOUD. I'm not usually one to care about fan noise, but the NV30 does annoy me.
I am using an NV30 in my primary work system now, largely so I can test more of the rendering paths on one system, and because I feel Nvidia still has somewhat better driver quality (ATI continues to improve, though). For a typical consumer, I don't think the decision is at all clear cut at the moment.
For developers doing forward looking work, there is a different tradeoff -- the NV30 runs fragment programs much slower, but it has a huge maximum instruction count. I have bumped into program limits on the R300 already. "
And I would imagine similarly if ATI cards use the NV-specific codepath in D3, they would also have poor performance?
Both cards combine proprietary technology with open standards, and have different strengths and weaknesses. I'll hang around with my GeForce FX 5600 / 256 memory that I paid $140 for, thanks, and I'm quite certain it will play HL2 and D3 just fine.
You're naive. Life is a game; being successful doesn't always mean being the smartest or being the nicest, but knowing how to play the game the best.
The game of our society is being social. If you have to get twelve random people on your side for something, they're likely going to be nothing like you. It's your job to become someone they are familar with and understand.
In the setting of a civil suit such as this, there are going to be many more opinions and perceptions at work than laws and facts. If it were a murder trial, it would lean much more towards forensics and tangible data. But in this case, you are winnning friends and influencing people. You're the poor Average Joe who was just haning out listening to some tunes, when some scary rich lawyers in powersuits came up and sued you!
Trust me, I'm still a very nice, very geeky, and very shy person at heart... but my life in corporate America for the past six years has only been successful because I know how to suck up without compromising my principles; coming off as a "likable" or "down to earth" guy instead of a nerd, prick, jock, frat boy, asshat, or moron. All you have to do is be able to relate and find commonality with people who, from the outside, are very different from you.
210A at 120Vac via the power law comes to 25.2kw/hr. Tripple that to allow for cooling (It takes approx 2 watts of power to remove the heat generated by 1 watt of power usage) and you come to almost 76kw/hr. Take a look at your utility bill to come up with the hourly cost for electricity while this thing is on.
On what planet? I cool my 60 watt or so Athlon XP 2000 using a 4 watt, 80mm fan. Add an 8 watt, 120mm fan on the intake that is WAY overkill, and a 4 watt PS exhaust fan, and I'm using 16 watts to cool a system that peaks around 280 watts power consumption. By your math, I should be using 528 watts cooling power for 264 watts used by the PC?
I respect your courage in submitting the review. If other people could have written it better, why didn't they?
While I recognize that I would have written the review differently so as to attempt less criticism from the trolls, I think you did a fine job, and added you to my "freinds" list... mostly because of how you're sticking up for yourself now.
I've got a low UserID because I was an "early adopter," and have been reading/. for almost 6 years. At first I thought we had a lively, young group of posters who were full of energy, and that's why they were so mean-spirited. Well, here we are 6 years later, and the 15 year olds are still acting like they're 15. Because it's fun, apparently. Meanwhile, I try to make relevent commentary on the source of an editorial article yesterday, and lost 4 karma points in the process. One of the downsides to being a moderate in a leftist thread, I guess.
I'm starting to wonder if I shouldn't just give up and go with my friends who did the "Quit Slashdot!" thing. Christ, I have more intellectual postwars on Fark.com anymore, and they are the total bastard trolls of the universe!
The only thing keeping me here is the occaisional insightful remark or link, but they get fewer and farther between every time I open the page.
Sorry to be so long-winded, I just wanted to make sure you know, we're not all asshats. Yet.
This may sound obvious to those of us who know how to use XP, but why didn't you just back up to the last "restore point?"
And are you sure it was just "critical fixes," and not "driver updates?" Windows Update once detected a driver update for a 3com NIC I had installed, and updating the driver b0rked it good. Did a "reinstall driver" in the hardware management interface (using original drivers) and it worked fine again.
First of all, anyone who is using "Kucinich" and "clued-in" without a "NOT" in the middle deserves the proverbial grain-of-salt-treatment.
Add to that that your gushing memo is anonymous, and we can only assume that you're one of the twelve people that Kucinich has sucked into his reality-distortion vortex, along with Willie Nelson.
You may be tempted to take Dennis Kucinich at face value, but as someone who has lived in Cleveland for 20 years, take it from me: he's an also-ran with zero credibility.
Here is my response on the blog:
"More ego-stroking on the part of Dennis Kucinich. This guy occaisionally serves a useful purpose in Ohio politics by either raising pragmatic arguments against stupid right-wing politics; or, more often, lending credence to moderate and conservative viewpoints by being so off his rocker, people assume he's a nutter.
The facts he presents are incomplete and one-sided, and his implication that the blackout occurred because of high debt on the part of First Energy, which in turn has been caused by nuke plants and de-regulation, is nothing more than leftist spin."
I completely understand if some pages get a little overly wide at 640x480, and I have to scroll. (My TV PC runs at this resolution, fortunately I don't browse the web much except for TV listings for ShowShifter on TitanTV.com.)
I'm even tolerant of it happening at 800x600.
But when I run at 1024x768, full screen browser window on my desktop's LCD monitor, I get REALLY irritated with people who code their pages to be somewhere around 1080 pixels wide. Because at that resolution, unless there is a right-hand column of ads, you just lose the last 5-10 characters of text. And man, that is a pain in the butt.
And some of these are "professional" web pages. Like, people were paid obscene amounts of money to code them. Gah! I know they test browse on their fancy Apple Cinema Display 23" LCDs, but c'mon, try out the "average Joe" resolutions once in a while, PLEASE!
The reason they check the voltages so closely is that one you start falling out of the 5 or maybe 10% tolerance zone for many components, over-voltage will cause overheating, lockups and early failure, and undervoltage also frequently causes lockups and occaisionally failure.
Also, some supplies give you a total wattage without breaking down where those watts can go. When you're dealing with processors that pull 80 watts at peak, you REALLY don't want a cheap supply that is busy sending all available watts to 5 and 12 volt channels to power drives.
As the article concludes, Antec is the best option available. I run a server with a 300 watt Antec powering the system, and a separate Antec 400 watt running ten of the eleven hard drives. The voltages stay tight and the supplies stay cool. The 500+ watt models are expensive, but the $69 I paid for the 400 watt is well worth it when you are protecting 1.1TB worth of drives.
On the cheap/lower power side, I've had great success with Sparkle and Enlight (250-350 watt) supplies. Priced in the $22-$40 range, these are great for "normal" systems.
I definitely recommend you stay away from the cheap stuff that comes in $30 cases, though... you'll see why when the supply dies, or shorts taking the mobo with it.:(
That's only once or twice, because there just isn't that much legally distributable material that can reach the required "critical mass" for BitTorrent to be effective and necessary.
This is a governmental pilot program for a small number of people. Assumably they wanted something cheap and easy to develope and even cheaper and easier to deploy.
Get one of the dime-a-dozen Win32 development contractors, and a ton of at-the-ready beta testers. Yes, using Windows still makes your kids' teeth grow in crooked, Bill Gates is still the AntiChrist, etc. etc. ad infinitum; but they have 90% of the desktop market, and if you're going to reach as many people as normal, you play the market.
Besides, maybe it will work under Wine. How do we know?
The first PC game I ever got into was Diablo 2, where I spent hours bulking up a Paladin named [H]olyGeekboy. (Note the 'leet [H], to symbolize my patronage of a cool hardware enthusiast website.
For some reason, it suck, and so now I am [H]olyGeekboy in Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Quake 3, and Unreal Tournament 2003. It makes no sense for those games, but it's still kind of unique, like all those soccer moms in California who spell seemingly normal names with q's and apostrophes all over the place.:)
I know two other people have tried posting this, but have been modded down. I heard on National Public Radio (I swear I'm not a liberal though) that he HAD been charged, and that was last month. I think the website being referenced needs to be moderated a little bit, so as to replace a little bit of the emotional conspiracy theory with a few more facts. This guy may be completely innocent, but how can you expect that truth to get across when the public knows you're not telling the whole factual story?
I snagged a copy and emailed it on before it got posted to Slashdot:
Tell Me More About the National Do Not Call Registry
Q: Why would I register my phone number with the National Do Not Call Registry?
A: The National Do Not Call Registry gives you an opportunity to limit the telemarketing calls you receive. On October 1, 2003, when the National Do Not Call Registry will be enforced, most telemarketers will be required to remove the numbers on the registry from their call lists.
Q: Who manages the National Do Not Call Registry?
A: The National Do Not Call Registry is managed by the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), the nation's consumer protection agency.
Q: Why was the National Do Not Call Registry created?
A: The registry was created to offer consumers a choice regarding telemarketing calls. The FTC's decision to create the National Do Not Call Registry was the culmination of a comprehensive, three year review of the Telemarketing Sales Rule, as well as the Commission's extensive experience enforcing the Rule over seven years. The FTC held numerous workshops, meetings and briefings to solicit feedback from interested parties and considered over 64,000 public comments, most of which favored creating the registry. You can review the entire record of the Rule review at www.ftc.gov/bcp/rulemaking/tsr/tsrrulemaking/index.htm.
How Does Registration Work?
Q: How soon after I register will I notice a reduction in calls?
A: If you register by August 31, 2003, you will start receiving fewer telemarketing calls by October 1, 2003. If you register after September 1, 2003, telemarketers covered by the National Do Not Call Registry will have up to three months from the date you register to stop calling you.
Q: I've already registered on my state's do not call list. Do I need to register on the National Do Not Call Registry?
A: The answer depends on where you live. Most of the 26 states will that currently have active do not call lists will transfer numbers from their lists to the National Do Not Call Registry. A few will not. You can find out which states are transferring their do not call lists to the National Do Not Call Registry at www.ftc.gov/donotcall. If you live in a state that is transferring its do not call list to the national registry, you do not need to re-register. On the other hand, if you live in a state that has its own do not call list, but the state is not transferring numbers to the National Registry, then you need to register your own number on the National Registry. If you are uncertain whether you are on a state do not call list and wish to limit your telemarketing contacts, you can register with the National Do Not Call Registry.
Q: When I register my phone number, how long until it shows up on the National Do Not Call Registry?
A: After you register, your phone number will be available for telemarketers to remove it from their call lists by the next day. Telemarketers will have up to three months to get your phone number and remove it from their call lists.
Q: How long does it take after I delete my phone number for it to be deleted from the National Do Not Call Registry?
A: After you delete your phone number, it will be removed from the National Do Not Call Registry by the next day. But telemarketers have up to three months to access information about your deletion and add your number back to their call lists, if they choose to.
Q: If I registered by phone, will I receive a confirmation?
A: No, but you can verify that your number is on the registry online or by calling the registry's toll-free number, 1-888-382-1222; for TTY, call 1-866-290-4236.
Q: I received a phone call from someone offering to put my name on the National Do Not Call Registry. Should I let them?
A: No. The FTC will not allow private companies or other such third parties to "pre-register" consumers for the National Do Not Call Registry. Web sites
"Cheater! Dirty cheater, I say!! What, did he use GCC to compile them?! Filth!!! DIE!"
I'm way off topic here, but given the popular literature released on Saturday, that many of us are no doubt reading, did anyone else hear Sirius Black's mother screaming this at us?
Slashdot Mirror
I take it you don't watch american daytime television, where every third commercial between ads for sugar beverages and ads for weight loss products is some legal firm asking if you've been wronged by someone, and offering to help with a "free consultation."
"We'll stand up for YOUR rights!" Yeah, right. And YOUR pocketbook.
So if I actually had kids who went out and copycatted these kids, could I sue the original parents/kids for inspiring these crimes and claim back all the money they sued. It could form a chain... with the people committing the most recent crime always having the money. This is all madness...
No, the pot of money would decrease 40% on each iteration for the lawyers to take their cut.
As it has been said before, the only ones that win are the greedy, filthy lawyers.
(Not all attorneys are bad either. My uncle is a family law attorney in a small, blue-collar town, and gets to deal with all sorts of difficult situations for rather modest pay.)
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Who's the idiot now? "Remove show, open mouth, insert foot." .plan Update for John Carmack:
"
Name: John Carmack
Email:
Description: Programmer
Project:
Jan 29, 2003
------------
NV30 vs R300, current developments, etc
At the moment, the NV30 is slightly faster on most scenes in Doom than the
R300, but I can still find some scenes where the R300 pulls a little bit
ahead. The issue is complicated because of the different ways the cards can
choose to run the game.
The R300 can run Doom in three different modes: ARB (minimum extensions, no
specular highlights, no vertex programs), R200 (full featured, almost always
single pass interaction rendering), ARB2 (floating point fragment shaders,
minor quality improvements, always single pass).
The NV30 can run DOOM in five different modes: ARB, NV10 (full featured, five
rendering passes, no vertex programs), NV20 (full featured, two or three
rendering passes), NV30 ( full featured, single pass), and ARB2.
The R200 path has a slight speed advantage over the ARB2 path on the R300, but
only by a small margin, so it defaults to using the ARB2 path for the quality
improvements. The NV30 runs the ARB2 path MUCH slower than the NV30 path.
Half the speed at the moment. This is unfortunate, because when you do an
exact, apples-to-apples comparison using exactly the same API, the R300 looks
twice as fast, but when you use the vendor-specific paths, the NV30 wins.
The reason for this is that ATI does everything at high precision all the
time, while Nvidia internally supports three different precisions with
different performances. To make it even more complicated, the exact
precision that ATI uses is in between the floating point precisions offered by
Nvidia, so when Nvidia runs fragment programs, they are at a higher precision
than ATI's, which is some justification for the slower speed. Nvidia assures
me that there is a lot of room for improving the fragment program performance
with improved driver compiler technology.
The current NV30 cards do have some other disadvantages: They take up two
slots, and when the cooling fan fires up they are VERY LOUD. I'm not usually
one to care about fan noise, but the NV30 does annoy me.
I am using an NV30 in my primary work system now, largely so I can test more
of the rendering paths on one system, and because I feel Nvidia still has
somewhat better driver quality (ATI continues to improve, though). For a
typical consumer, I don't think the decision is at all clear cut at the
moment.
For developers doing forward looking work, there is a different tradeoff --
the NV30 runs fragment programs much slower, but it has a huge maximum
instruction count. I have bumped into program limits on the R300 already.
"
And I would imagine similarly if ATI cards use the NV-specific codepath in D3, they would also have poor performance?
Both cards combine proprietary technology with open standards, and have different strengths and weaknesses. I'll hang around with my GeForce FX 5600 / 256 memory that I paid $140 for, thanks, and I'm quite certain it will play HL2 and D3 just fine.
You're naive. Life is a game; being successful doesn't always mean being the smartest or being the nicest, but knowing how to play the game the best.
The game of our society is being social. If you have to get twelve random people on your side for something, they're likely going to be nothing like you. It's your job to become someone they are familar with and understand.
In the setting of a civil suit such as this, there are going to be many more opinions and perceptions at work than laws and facts. If it were a murder trial, it would lean much more towards forensics and tangible data. But in this case, you are winnning friends and influencing people. You're the poor Average Joe who was just haning out listening to some tunes, when some scary rich lawyers in powersuits came up and sued you!
Trust me, I'm still a very nice, very geeky, and very shy person at heart... but my life in corporate America for the past six years has only been successful because I know how to suck up without compromising my principles; coming off as a "likable" or "down to earth" guy instead of a nerd, prick, jock, frat boy, asshat, or moron. All you have to do is be able to relate and find commonality with people who, from the outside, are very different from you.
OK I forgot about datacenter conditions. Sad considering that I work in a corporate datacenter with 3,000 rackmount boxes.
I am still skeptical that we spend twice the power cooling the datacenter than we sprnd running the servers.
And it's Kentucky, not Kansas.
210A at 120Vac via the power law comes to 25.2kw/hr. Tripple that to allow for cooling (It takes approx 2 watts of power to remove the heat generated by 1 watt of power usage) and you come to almost 76kw/hr. Take a look at your utility bill to come up with the hourly cost for electricity while this thing is on.
On what planet? I cool my 60 watt or so Athlon XP 2000 using a 4 watt, 80mm fan. Add an 8 watt, 120mm fan on the intake that is WAY overkill, and a 4 watt PS exhaust fan, and I'm using 16 watts to cool a system that peaks around 280 watts power consumption. By your math, I should be using 528 watts cooling power for 264 watts used by the PC?
Acceptable Use Policy, standard to most Internet Services Providers (AKA ISPs).
:)
PS - AKA Stands for Also Known As.
PPS - PS stands for... eh, forget it
Kevin,
/. for almost 6 years. At first I thought we had a lively, young group of posters who were full of energy, and that's why they were so mean-spirited. Well, here we are 6 years later, and the 15 year olds are still acting like they're 15. Because it's fun, apparently. Meanwhile, I try to make relevent commentary on the source of an editorial article yesterday, and lost 4 karma points in the process. One of the downsides to being a moderate in a leftist thread, I guess.
I respect your courage in submitting the review. If other people could have written it better, why didn't they?
While I recognize that I would have written the review differently so as to attempt less criticism from the trolls, I think you did a fine job, and added you to my "freinds" list... mostly because of how you're sticking up for yourself now.
I've got a low UserID because I was an "early adopter," and have been reading
I'm starting to wonder if I shouldn't just give up and go with my friends who did the "Quit Slashdot!" thing. Christ, I have more intellectual postwars on Fark.com anymore, and they are the total bastard trolls of the universe!
The only thing keeping me here is the occaisional insightful remark or link, but they get fewer and farther between every time I open the page.
Sorry to be so long-winded, I just wanted to make sure you know, we're not all asshats. Yet.
This may sound obvious to those of us who know how to use XP, but why didn't you just back up to the last "restore point?"
:D
And are you sure it was just "critical fixes," and not "driver updates?" Windows Update once detected a driver update for a 3com NIC I had installed, and updating the driver b0rked it good. Did a "reinstall driver" in the hardware management interface (using original drivers) and it worked fine again.
Maybe you should go back to apt-getting?
First of all, anyone who is using "Kucinich" and "clued-in" without a "NOT" in the middle deserves the proverbial grain-of-salt-treatment.
Add to that that your gushing memo is anonymous, and we can only assume that you're one of the twelve people that Kucinich has sucked into his reality-distortion vortex, along with Willie Nelson.
You may be tempted to take Dennis Kucinich at face value, but as someone who has lived in Cleveland for 20 years, take it from me: he's an also-ran with zero credibility.
Here is my response on the blog:
"More ego-stroking on the part of Dennis Kucinich. This guy occaisionally serves a useful purpose in Ohio politics by either raising pragmatic arguments against stupid right-wing politics; or, more often, lending credence to moderate and conservative viewpoints by being so off his rocker, people assume he's a nutter.
The facts he presents are incomplete and one-sided, and his implication that the blackout occurred because of high debt on the part of First Energy, which in turn has been caused by nuke plants and de-regulation, is nothing more than leftist spin."
So the summary of Tall Poppy Syndrome can be summed up by the title of an Aerosmith song,
"Eat The Rich"
?
Please re-read my parent. Microsoft posted critical update notification on 7/16. Today is 8/12.
Almost a month.
Look, A "Critical Update" alert and patch went out from MS on July 16th.
:)
The exploit, and the patch, were the front page of cnn.com and covered extensively on TV on 7/31.
It's almost a month later; what more can you ask of them?
Wait... don't answer that.
I completely understand if some pages get a little overly wide at 640x480, and I have to scroll. (My TV PC runs at this resolution, fortunately I don't browse the web much except for TV listings for ShowShifter on TitanTV.com.)
I'm even tolerant of it happening at 800x600.
But when I run at 1024x768, full screen browser window on my desktop's LCD monitor, I get REALLY irritated with people who code their pages to be somewhere around 1080 pixels wide. Because at that resolution, unless there is a right-hand column of ads, you just lose the last 5-10 characters of text. And man, that is a pain in the butt.
And some of these are "professional" web pages. Like, people were paid obscene amounts of money to code them. Gah! I know they test browse on their fancy Apple Cinema Display 23" LCDs, but c'mon, try out the "average Joe" resolutions once in a while, PLEASE!
See my reply here.
The reason they check the voltages so closely is that one you start falling out of the 5 or maybe 10% tolerance zone for many components, over-voltage will cause overheating, lockups and early failure, and undervoltage also frequently causes lockups and occaisionally failure.
Also, some supplies give you a total wattage without breaking down where those watts can go. When you're dealing with processors that pull 80 watts at peak, you REALLY don't want a cheap supply that is busy sending all available watts to 5 and 12 volt channels to power drives.
As the article concludes, Antec is the best option available. I run a server with a 300 watt Antec powering the system, and a separate Antec 400 watt running ten of the eleven hard drives. The voltages stay tight and the supplies stay cool. The 500+ watt models are expensive, but the $69 I paid for the 400 watt is well worth it when you are protecting 1.1TB worth of drives.
:(
On the cheap/lower power side, I've had great success with Sparkle and Enlight (250-350 watt) supplies. Priced in the $22-$40 range, these are great for "normal" systems.
I definitely recommend you stay away from the cheap stuff that comes in $30 cases, though... you'll see why when the supply dies, or shorts taking the mobo with it.
That's only once or twice, because there just isn't that much legally distributable material that can reach the required "critical mass" for BitTorrent to be effective and necessary.
*cough* Red Versus Blue *cough*
It's hilarious machinima. Try it.
This is a governmental pilot program for a small number of people. Assumably they wanted something cheap and easy to develope and even cheaper and easier to deploy.
Get one of the dime-a-dozen Win32 development contractors, and a ton of at-the-ready beta testers. Yes, using Windows still makes your kids' teeth grow in crooked, Bill Gates is still the AntiChrist, etc. etc. ad infinitum; but they have 90% of the desktop market, and if you're going to reach as many people as normal, you play the market.
Besides, maybe it will work under Wine. How do we know?
The first PC game I ever got into was Diablo 2, where I spent hours bulking up a Paladin named [H]olyGeekboy. (Note the 'leet [H], to symbolize my patronage of a cool hardware enthusiast website.
:)
For some reason, it suck, and so now I am [H]olyGeekboy in Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Quake 3, and Unreal Tournament 2003. It makes no sense for those games, but it's still kind of unique, like all those soccer moms in California who spell seemingly normal names with q's and apostrophes all over the place.
I think the article was a PC troll trying to point out that all-in-one Macs of the past 5 years are not video-upgradable.
I know two other people have tried posting this, but have been modded down. I heard on National Public Radio (I swear I'm not a liberal though) that he HAD been charged, and that was last month. I think the website being referenced needs to be moderated a little bit, so as to replace a little bit of the emotional conspiracy theory with a few more facts. This guy may be completely innocent, but how can you expect that truth to get across when the public knows you're not telling the whole factual story?
I snagged a copy and emailed it on before it got posted to Slashdot:
.htm.
Tell Me More About the National Do Not Call Registry
Q: Why would I register my phone number with the National Do Not Call Registry?
A: The National Do Not Call Registry gives you an opportunity to limit the telemarketing calls you receive. On October 1, 2003, when the National Do Not Call Registry will be enforced, most telemarketers will be required to remove the numbers on the registry from their call lists.
Q: Who manages the National Do Not Call Registry?
A: The National Do Not Call Registry is managed by the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), the nation's consumer protection agency.
Q: Why was the National Do Not Call Registry created?
A: The registry was created to offer consumers a choice regarding telemarketing calls. The FTC's decision to create the National Do Not Call Registry was the culmination of a comprehensive, three year review of the Telemarketing Sales Rule, as well as the Commission's extensive experience enforcing the Rule over seven years. The FTC held numerous workshops, meetings and briefings to solicit feedback from interested parties and considered over 64,000 public comments, most of which favored creating the registry. You can review the entire record of the Rule review at www.ftc.gov/bcp/rulemaking/tsr/tsrrulemaking/index
How Does Registration Work?
Q: How soon after I register will I notice a reduction in calls?
A: If you register by August 31, 2003, you will start receiving fewer telemarketing calls by October 1, 2003. If you register after September 1, 2003, telemarketers covered by the National Do Not Call Registry will have up to three months from the date you register to stop calling you.
Q: I've already registered on my state's do not call list. Do I need to register on the National Do Not Call Registry?
A: The answer depends on where you live. Most of the 26 states will that currently have active do not call lists will transfer numbers from their lists to the National Do Not Call Registry. A few will not. You can find out which states are transferring their do not call lists to the National Do Not Call Registry at www.ftc.gov/donotcall. If you live in a state that is transferring its do not call list to the national registry, you do not need to re-register. On the other hand, if you live in a state that has its own do not call list, but the state is not transferring numbers to the National Registry, then you need to register your own number on the National Registry. If you are uncertain whether you are on a state do not call list and wish to limit your telemarketing contacts, you can register with the National Do Not Call Registry.
Q: When I register my phone number, how long until it shows up on the National Do Not Call Registry?
A: After you register, your phone number will be available for telemarketers to remove it from their call lists by the next day. Telemarketers will have up to three months to get your phone number and remove it from their call lists.
Q: How long does it take after I delete my phone number for it to be deleted from the National Do Not Call Registry?
A: After you delete your phone number, it will be removed from the National Do Not Call Registry by the next day. But telemarketers have up to three months to access information about your deletion and add your number back to their call lists, if they choose to.
Q: If I registered by phone, will I receive a confirmation?
A: No, but you can verify that your number is on the registry online or by calling the registry's toll-free number, 1-888-382-1222; for TTY, call 1-866-290-4236.
Q: I received a phone call from someone offering to put my name on the National Do Not Call Registry. Should I let them?
A: No. The FTC will not allow private companies or other such third parties to "pre-register" consumers for the National Do Not Call Registry. Web sites
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What, did he use GCC to compile them?! Filth!!! DIE!"
I'm way off topic here, but given the popular literature released on Saturday, that many of us are no doubt reading, did anyone else hear Sirius Black's mother screaming this at us?
"Out, ye filth! Blasphemy! Mudblood Scum!"