I am surprised by this article. I have installed and upgraded a few machines to Karmic and this had been on of the best releases since Gutsy. Ever since they had pulseaudio included by default in Hardy I had issues with new releases, specifically with pulseaudio. Hardy and Janty was the most painful and Intrepid caused much less pain. Janty had issues with pulseaudio and then issues with the Intel video drivers which made it a much worse release than Karmic. As far as new releases of Ubuntu go I am happy with Karmic.
Better to go back to using a old gopher client rather than a web browser tainted with mooning-light.
Last thing we need is a web littered with sites that use this garbage where Microsoft control the client. At that point you can simply forget about using anything Windows and ieeeeeeee to effectively do anything online with a web-browser.
It is bad enough that Adobe Flash has such a strong grip on the web content. I for one would hate to see Microsoft holding the reins of a replacement or alternative for flash.
Last time I checked: - Pigs don't fly. - Sun, Moon, and the Stars don't rise from the West. - Lions don't eat grass.
Similar to above, I will not use this mooning-light on Linux.
"Your hardware won't function without an OS, so what better choice than Microsoftâ(TM)s latest offering. Despite the constant criticism, Vista is a very stable, secure and enjoyable platform to work with." --
Agreeably you may need Vista as the OS on your ultimate "GAMING PC" specification only because most games require Windows in one form or another to run with all the uber options enabled.
I guess we have to take this all with prospective. As in saying something is stable compared to a house of straw in the path of a tornado and secure compared to a wet paper bag.
I have not looked at any code, so I do not know this for sure. If you can convert the document on the fly to an XML like format then reveal codes should be trivial to implement. Heck, I would accept the XML in a another window/pane as reveal codes.
Sadly, I believe that the OpenOffice developers are thinking the same way, Microsoft has thought of MS Office. The must be thinking, all users are dumb enough to never want anything more abstract than WISIWYG editing with some useless hidden formatting characters shown.
I think Openoffice Writer is a nice product, it is too bad they do not aim to improve it beyond MS Word.
Nothing worse than having garbge/redundent/misplaced formatting staying hidden just to bite me on the next change on a large document. This is still my prime reason to not use OpenOffice (or MS Word) to create any serious document of a substantial size.
> I was hoping to see something more than just another MS Office clone at least with version 3.0. How hard can it be to implement such a useful feature anyway? I can't believe they do not get enough requests for it.
Sadly, I had to switch out of Gentoo this week. Fixing problems with my Gentoo machine was getting in the way of completing my work. I do hope that your efforts will lead to a "good, stable, reliable, and flexible system that is capable of meeting the demands put upon it". The way things used to be over a year ago. I would consider switching back to using Gentoo only when I can be absolutely convinced that some developers experiments are not going to be done on my machine. I am not willing to be a lab rat. Thank goodness there are still people who thing straight in Gentoo. There is still hope for the distribution. I hope it gets back on track.
ROFL. This is the best comment I saw in a while. Thanks!!
I just switched from Gentoo to Ubuntu. The reasons if you must know:
* Gentoo seems to have more buggy/broken packages in the stable portage tree now. For the last year or so it has been getting worse.
* Packages in the non x86 portage tree is not as up-to-date or as complete as Debian or Ubuntu. The ~x86 is not stable enough to use.
* My reiserfs partition running / was toast and I don't really want to rebuild Gentoo from scratch for a couple of days when I can have Ubuntu running in under an hour.
* I do not like the new GUI installer in Gentoo. Too many problems with it. The "howto" they had before which described how to get it going form Stage1 using the CLI was much better.
* I believe after about 3 years of use those long upgrades usually fry your computer usually during the summer (hot days + OpenOffice from source == Over Heated Computer). I fried two machines in the summer compiling for many hours on end building things from scratch. That is why I would never install it in a laptop. I would like my laptop to last just a bit longer than 3 years. I wonder if anyone else had this problem...
* Yes, Gentoo ran faster on the desktop than any other distribution of Linux I have tried up to now. There has not been a problem that I have not been able to fix or get help to have it fixed under Gentoo but the time spent doing this kind of tweaking and fixing just could not be justified. So, I withdraw my self from the Uber Geeks Club and run Ubuntu.
I did learn much from Gentoo and for that I will always have respect for that distribution. There is not much chance that I would go back to using it unless I have a ton of time on my hands just to play around with a Linux distribution.
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I have been using fluxbox window as my window manager and no real desktop environments under Linux for the longest time. I don't need any desktop icons of fancy animated menus. I am quite happy to continue using fluxbox to manage my terminals. Using the mouse wheel to flip virtual screens just rox!!
My wife on the other hand will not be appriciate it, if I let her start all her applications with a CLI and only use a simplified window manager like fluxbox for her work. She is used to windows world and will only work with a desktop environment that seems familiar.
I've setup both Gnome and KDE on my desktop for the last couple of years. Gnome 2.10 ticked me off with the removal of some functionality such as the ability to add a launcher into the Applications menu by right clicking. I hate this opening of a new window each time I open a folder and the fact that I can't change this behaviour easily... just bites.
Now in gnome I need to have another web-browser installed called ephiphany? I know KDE's got the same kind of thing with their own web browser... what is this, windows? Maybe I'm too short sighted to see the reasons for this, but I'd rather not carry baggage I don't need.
In Gnome 2.12 (which is still marked unstable under Gentoo BTW) I can see more reasons why I may need to get away from Gnome in the future. Why did they remove the "Open Terminal" option from the right-click on the menu in Gnome 2.12? Now I just end up creating a new folder each time I want a terminal to do something quick. There might be some obscure way to go re-configure all this to the way it was before... but I really don't have the time to dance to the Gnome tune.
I agree with most of the grievances from the Gnome users. It is unfortunate, since I thought Gnome 2.8 showed promise more than KDE. I am just going to switch my wife's default environment again to KDE and see if she has any major complaints about it. If she is happy with KDE, then I will be getting rid of the Gnome 2.12 from my desktop. It seems I am not be the only person that will be trying to run away from Gnome.
I am not saying KDE is the best thing since sliced bread. To me KDE is just starting to look like the lesser evil. That is just my two cents on this.
Here is my two cents worth. I don't know much about BSD, since I never ran it before. I have been running linux for over 10 years now. I never said nor do I think Linux is perfect. There is a few reasons why I have not tried BSD:
Linux seems to have better hardware support for what I use.
There seems to be more software available to run directly on Linux.
Linux is not Windows and it runns "GOOD ENOUGH" for now. I don't see a reason to invest the time to learn the structure of BSD.
I don't know why anyone would get so bent out of shape over the support of Linux or BSD. As long as it is open sourced I think they are playing for the same team.
I thought after all this the Judge would have ruled to dismiss this case with extreeme prejudice. I am not a lawyer, but I wish I was to understand the fairness of this ruling. In the meantime SCO can just sue everyone on the planet?
I am waiting for the stock market to open to see what happens to SCO stock today. I hope it keeps going down for the next 45 days. Making them die slowly and painfuly. Only thing that would make me happier is if some of the SCO executives actually went to jail at the end.
Ahh.. IBM just want to be another company that ports/clones M$ Word? If there is going to be a word processor for Linux, why are we trying to take the bad and the ugly along with the good? Micro$oft Office is not the do all and end all of Office suites.
Personally, I hate M$ Word with a passion. I'd rather use VI to LaTeX my document. Okay, that is not for everyone. I realize that. At least it will not try to get smart on me and capitalise things that should not be capitalised and it will not add spaces where there should be none. I know you can turn off auto correct, but that just introduces more steps I'd rather not have to do. It will allow me to insert text between two different types of formatting and also let me choose which type of formatting to use. Did you ever try to insert some unbolded text right next to some bolded text in M$ Word? After you inserted the text, you found what you entered is bolded? Don't even get me started on page numbering in word. I still use a separate document for a title page, when I absolutely must use M$ Word at work. Do we really need to deal with those section breaks when we simply wish to change the page numbering?
Yes, I want my scientific/technical paper to look the way I want it to look with out having to fight with my word processor. My biggest beef with OpenOffice is the fact that it tries to emulate Word so closely. Otherwise, why would you leave out a feature like reveal codes from OpenOffice? If you are going to borrow features from other word processors then try to get some good features like reveal codes from WordPerfect. Don't just conform to what ever Micro$oft shoves down our throat.
For now, if the document doesn't require formatting, I am going to stick to plain old text from VI. If it does require formatting, I will use HTML or LaTeX, depending on how I intend to present my document.
Anyway, that is my two cents worth on word processors and office suites under Linux. IBM should take the WordPerfect source from Corel and port the newest Wordperfect for Linux. I am sure there is at least a few that agree with me on this. I am probably should have used some word processor to correct this comment, but what the hell, if you love M$ office then bring on the flames.
Please tell me that this is just a nightmare. I wonder if there is any other search engine at least half as good as google incase they get Microshafted?
If they think that I am going to EVER buy a licence for Linux from them, then they have to be nothing less than CRAZY! Why is SCO still alive? Must be something very wrong with the legal system to let this sort of thing go on this long.
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I am surprised by this article. I have installed and upgraded a few machines to Karmic and this had been on of the best releases since Gutsy. Ever since they had pulseaudio included by default in Hardy I had issues with new releases, specifically with pulseaudio. Hardy and Janty was the most painful and Intrepid caused much less pain. Janty had issues with pulseaudio and then issues with the Intel video drivers which made it a much worse release than Karmic. As far as new releases of Ubuntu go I am happy with Karmic.
Better to go back to using a old gopher client rather than a web browser tainted with mooning-light.
Last thing we need is a web littered with sites that use this garbage where Microsoft control the client. At that point you can simply forget about using anything Windows and ieeeeeeee to effectively do anything online with a web-browser.
It is bad enough that Adobe Flash has such a strong grip on the web content. I for one would hate to see Microsoft holding the reins of a replacement or alternative for flash.
Last time I checked:
- Pigs don't fly.
- Sun, Moon, and the Stars don't rise from the West.
- Lions don't eat grass.
Similar to above, I will not use this mooning-light on Linux.
No Thanks!
"Your hardware won't function without an OS, so what better choice than Microsoftâ(TM)s latest offering. Despite the constant criticism, Vista is a very stable, secure and enjoyable platform to work with." --
Agreeably you may need Vista as the OS on your ultimate "GAMING PC" specification only because most games require Windows in one form or another to run with all the uber options enabled.
I guess we have to take this all with prospective. As in saying something is stable compared to a house of straw in the path of a tornado and secure compared to a wet paper bag.
I have not looked at any code, so I do not know this for sure. If you can convert the document on the fly to an XML like format then reveal codes should be trivial to implement. Heck, I would accept the XML in a another window/pane as reveal codes.
Sadly, I believe that the OpenOffice developers are thinking the same way, Microsoft has thought of MS Office. The must be thinking, all users are dumb enough to never want anything more abstract than WISIWYG editing with some useless hidden formatting characters shown.
I think Openoffice Writer is a nice product, it is too bad they do not aim to improve it beyond MS Word.
Nothing worse than having garbge/redundent/misplaced formatting staying hidden just to bite me on the next change on a large document. This is still my prime reason to not use OpenOffice (or MS Word) to create any serious document of a substantial size.
> I was hoping to see something more than just another MS Office clone at least with version 3.0. How hard can it be to implement such a useful feature anyway? I can't believe they do not get enough requests for it.
yeah.. you are right. No justice yet. I just got excited when I saw SCO falling.
How refreshing. I have been waiting for this long enough. I am only sad that SCO did not fall more.
Sadly, I had to switch out of Gentoo this week. Fixing problems with my Gentoo machine was getting in the way of completing my work. I do hope that your efforts will lead to a "good, stable, reliable, and flexible system that is capable of meeting the demands put upon it". The way things used to be over a year ago. I would consider switching back to using Gentoo only when I can be absolutely convinced that some developers experiments are not going to be done on my machine. I am not willing to be a lab rat. Thank goodness there are still people who thing straight in Gentoo. There is still hope for the distribution. I hope it gets back on track.
Exactly... I can not see what is disastrous about project Sunrise. Someone please clarify what the "Sunrise disaster" mean.
ROFL. This is the best comment I saw in a while. Thanks!!
I just switched from Gentoo to Ubuntu. The reasons if you must know:
* Gentoo seems to have more buggy/broken packages in the stable portage tree now. For the last year or so it has been getting worse.
* Packages in the non x86 portage tree is not as up-to-date or as complete as Debian or Ubuntu. The ~x86 is not stable enough to use.
* My reiserfs partition running / was toast and I don't really want to rebuild Gentoo from scratch for a couple of days when I can have Ubuntu running in under an hour.
* I do not like the new GUI installer in Gentoo. Too many problems with it. The "howto" they had before which described how to get it going form Stage1 using the CLI was much better.
* I believe after about 3 years of use those long upgrades usually fry your computer usually during the summer (hot days + OpenOffice from source == Over Heated Computer). I fried two machines in the summer compiling for many hours on end building things from scratch. That is why I would never install it in a laptop. I would like my laptop to last just a bit longer than 3 years. I wonder if anyone else had this problem...
* Yes, Gentoo ran faster on the desktop than any other distribution of Linux I have tried up to now. There has not been a problem that I have not been able to fix or get help to have it fixed under Gentoo but the time spent doing this kind of tweaking and fixing just could not be justified. So, I withdraw my self from the Uber Geeks Club and run Ubuntu.
I did learn much from Gentoo and for that I will always have respect for that distribution. There is not much chance that I would go back to using it unless I have a ton of time on my hands just to play around with a Linux distribution.
I thought the name stood for the following:
- Viruses
- Instability
- Spyware
- Trojans
- Adware
Now they tell me it's not the case? I'll believe this article when I see VISTA working for a couple of years.
I have been using fluxbox window as my window manager and no real desktop environments under Linux for the longest time. I don't need any desktop icons of fancy animated menus. I am quite happy to continue using fluxbox to manage my terminals. Using the mouse wheel to flip virtual screens just rox!!
My wife on the other hand will not be appriciate it, if I let her start all her applications with a CLI and only use a simplified window manager like fluxbox for her work. She is used to windows world and will only work with a desktop environment that seems familiar.
I've setup both Gnome and KDE on my desktop for the last couple of years. Gnome 2.10 ticked me off with the removal of some functionality such as the ability to add a launcher into the Applications menu by right clicking. I hate this opening of a new window each time I open a folder and the fact that I can't change this behaviour easily... just bites.
Now in gnome I need to have another web-browser installed called ephiphany? I know KDE's got the same kind of thing with their own web browser... what is this, windows? Maybe I'm too short sighted to see the reasons for this, but I'd rather not carry baggage I don't need.
In Gnome 2.12 (which is still marked unstable under Gentoo BTW) I can see more reasons why I may need to get away from Gnome in the future. Why did they remove the "Open Terminal" option from the right-click on the menu in Gnome 2.12? Now I just end up creating a new folder each time I want a terminal to do something quick. There might be some obscure way to go re-configure all this to the way it was before... but I really don't have the time to dance to the Gnome tune.
I agree with most of the grievances from the Gnome users. It is unfortunate, since I thought Gnome 2.8 showed promise more than KDE. I am just going to switch my wife's default environment again to KDE and see if she has any major complaints about it. If she is happy with KDE, then I will be getting rid of the Gnome 2.12 from my desktop. It seems I am not be the only person that will be trying to run away from Gnome.
I am not saying KDE is the best thing since sliced bread. To me KDE is just starting to look like the lesser evil. That is just my two cents on this.
- Linux seems to have better hardware support for what I use.
- There seems to be more software available to run directly on Linux.
- Linux is not Windows and it runns "GOOD ENOUGH" for now. I don't see a reason to invest the time to learn the structure of BSD.
I don't know why anyone would get so bent out of shape over the support of Linux or BSD. As long as it is open sourced I think they are playing for the same team.Ok, I had to uninstall firefox and delete my profile and reinstall and setup everything again. Now it works well. I wish I could have kept my profile.
Anyone else having trouble viewing pages with flash? I can't install themes either. I am thinking of going back to firefox 0.8 now.
We have a little fan club for SCO stocks going at the office. Everyone cheer when SCO stocks fall a dollar and Boo when it rises.
I saw it fall under $6. I don't understand what is pushing it back up a little all the time. I feel that at $6 its still over valued by $6.
In Canada organizations like RIAA and SCO would not get away with disgusting, outrageous behavior unlike in some other places. Hooray. Canada!
I thought after all this the Judge would have ruled to dismiss this case with extreeme prejudice. I am not a lawyer, but I wish I was to understand the fairness of this ruling. In the meantime SCO can just sue everyone on the planet?
I am waiting for the stock market to open to see what happens to SCO stock today. I hope it keeps going down for the next 45 days. Making them die slowly and painfuly. Only thing that would make me happier is if some of the SCO executives actually went to jail at the end.
Yes, I've tried this too. System locked up just as you said with the 'hdparm -t /dev/hdX'.
What was fixed by this fix from the 2.6.3 kernel changlog?
[ACPI] nforce2 timer lockup from Maciej W. Rozycki
Can anyone please let me know where I can find a patch that can fix this problem properly?
Thank you
Ahh.. IBM just want to be another company that ports/clones M$ Word? If there is going to be a word processor for Linux, why are we trying to take the bad and the ugly along with the good? Micro$oft Office is not the do all and end all of Office suites.
Personally, I hate M$ Word with a passion. I'd rather use VI to LaTeX my document. Okay, that is not for everyone. I realize that. At least it will not try to get smart on me and capitalise things that should not be capitalised and it will not add spaces where there should be none. I know you can turn off auto correct, but that just introduces more steps I'd rather not have to do. It will allow me to insert text between two different types of formatting and also let me choose which type of formatting to use. Did you ever try to insert some unbolded text right next to some bolded text in M$ Word? After you inserted the text, you found what you entered is bolded? Don't even get me started on page numbering in word. I still use a separate document for a title page, when I absolutely must use M$ Word at work. Do we really need to deal with those section breaks when we simply wish to change the page numbering?
Yes, I want my scientific/technical paper to look the way I want it to look with out having to fight with my word processor. My biggest beef with OpenOffice is the fact that it tries to emulate Word so closely. Otherwise, why would you leave out a feature like reveal codes from OpenOffice? If you are going to borrow features from other word processors then try to get some good features like reveal codes from WordPerfect. Don't just conform to what ever Micro$oft shoves down our throat.
For now, if the document doesn't require formatting, I am going to stick to plain old text from VI. If it does require formatting, I will use HTML or LaTeX, depending on how I intend to present my document.
Anyway, that is my two cents worth on word processors and office suites under Linux. IBM should take the WordPerfect source from Corel and port the newest Wordperfect for Linux. I am sure there is at least a few that agree with me on this. I am probably should have used some word processor to correct this comment, but what the hell, if you love M$ office then bring on the flames.
I thought MiG-31 was called Foxhound? I wonder if that will be the name for 0.9? :)
I am using firefox to post this message.. WOW.. I don't know what they did.. but it seems alot faster than firebird 0.7
Is it too early to say R.I.P to IE?
Have you watched REAL tech media lately?
Please tell me that this is just a nightmare. I wonder if there is any other search engine at least half as good as google incase they get Microshafted?
If they think that I am going to EVER buy a licence for Linux from them, then they have to be nothing less than CRAZY! Why is SCO still alive? Must be something very wrong with the legal system to let this sort of thing go on this long.