Let's be clear. Compaq's iPaq revenue was higher than Palm, but by no means does this mean that the iPaq is the sales leader. Here's a link to the sales numbers for May for instance:
Actually, JMS has commented that they'd save earth in the 2nd or 3rd season (of a 5 year arc) and that the whole arc was about much much more. The save Earth plot was just an introduction to give them something to do to get out there and discover the rest of the plot.
True the Athlon is faster on a per clock basis, but it's a fair comparison to compare the fastest Athlon vs. the fastest P4 since they're both obtainable (although actually the fastest is 1.4 Athlon, 1.7 P4, so we're comparing 1 speed grade down or so).
It's pretty well known that the TBird core was thermal limited, not architecturally limited in speed. It looks like the TBird will top out at 1.4GHz. The Pally core supposedly uses 20% less power, so we can assume it runs about 20% cooler. This means they should be able to achieve 1.7GHz or so out of it, which is pretty competitive with Intel's PIV.
Then they'll move to the.13 process and should be able to hit 2GHz+
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Ok, fair enough point on the time issue, but personally I appreciate that the binary is out so I can begin using their new APIs.
As to the rest, I think Sony understands the GPL because they released the old POSE extensions, so there's little reason to believe they won't now.
I'm all for someone official asking them for their source and politely reminding them of their responsibilities, but the average response in this forum has been "Let's sue their asses off!". Come on, just because you may not like the tactics of Sony's music division (and rightfully so IMHO), does not mean that you can't act in a civilized manner when it comes to something completely unrelated.
Bottom line is I doubt Sony's trying to pull a fast one here because they have previous experience. Beside, the article was written in February which is before the 5/1 post of the new stuff anyway, so I think we're making too much of a big deal out of this because the source is in fact available for what was available in February.
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Perhaps, I'm not that up on the GPL either, but can we allow a week for human error and or changes to documentation of the source.
Regardless, the article was written on 2/5/01 which was before the new POSE was out, so he had to be referring to the old version, which as I stated above does indeed have source available.
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Um, the scroll wheel was in the previous Clie, and the source for that emulator has been available for months, so I don't think your argument holds water.
The older Clie also supported the memory stick, but I forget offhand if the emulator did.
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I'm a registered Sony PDA developer, so I checked out this claim.
It is true that Sony released a new POSE for the new Clie.
However, the POSE used for the previous Clie is still available, AS IS ITS SOURCE!
Looking at the new emulator, it was just posted 2 days ago (5/1/01). My guess is that they'll release the source real soon now, but it probably wasn't quite ready for prime time just yet.
Personally, I'm glad they released the new emulator and ROMs in a timely fashion. Sure, they are required to release the new source as well, but before we jump all over them, let's give them a few days at the very least.
Acttually, more worrying than this is that, let's say you get kicked off a small mom & pop ISP because they think you were trading something you weren't. To use your example, let's say you were sending home movies to your grandparents, but they kicked you anyway.
Who's really left in the ISP business? Right now it's boiling down to AOL/TW and a bunch of large phone companies. Eventually those who are providing you access will be those who want to stop you from doing anything with their content, so even though they have the 'will' to fight, they're obviously not going to fight themselves.
So, hold on to your small ISP for as long as possible, but eventually all content will be megacorp controlled.
Palm, is indeed dropping the 68k in about a year for the ARM, and what may or may not be called PalmOS 5. The kernel they'll be using is still to be determined and is not "almost certainly going to be a 32bit multitasking". It's possible, sure, but let's not overstate, just yet.
Interestingly enough this service isn't available in North Carolina. Since you're charged per call (or at least that's how it was when it started) and the phone company had no way of proving the # of calls it blocked out, they deemed it illegal to sell such a service because they could conceivably charge customers an arbitrary amount of money per month.
I think you should ammend your "many people have burnt or cracked their chips" with "people who do not follow AMD's cooling recommendations or improperly try to force a non-socket A cooler on to their chips".
Sigh...Letterman's humorous gripes were just that, humor. And in any event they were about TiVo's (sometimes less than perfect) suggestions which can be turned off easily, not about privacy.
Or you could put a heatsync & fan on the thing for $10 and be done with it.
Seriously, I'm sick of this type of AMD bashing. Yes if you run the chip w/o proper cooling it'll die, but on the other hand, if you run it/w proper cooling, it works great.
Case in point. I built a system for a friend on a Duron 750. Got the generic $9 cooling fan solution and some thermal paste. Pasted it up good, put the heatsync & fan on, booted it up and all is fine. Even after running for hours doing 100% CPU load, it won't get hotter than about 100 degrees F... that's pretty good if you ask me.
There's nothing about PalmOS v4.0 that inherently implies 160x160 only. A 320x320 device would work just fine with OS 4. The thing about screen doubling is that it's necessary to make sure old apps run correctly. New apps could be written to take explicit advantage of a bigger display.
Also, apps do not run off of SD unfortunately. They are copied to main memory, run, and then put back.
Yeah good point. I didn't mean to say that Sony shouldn't have had a way to distinguish the jog dial from the page up/down. Modifying the default handler would have been appropriate in this instance.
Ah, good point. I meant the old Clie though like the guy currently has. It's disappointing he's going to have to dump his $400 investment to use Memory Sticks to their true potential. Price of early adoption I guess.
Actually, let's not blame the 160x160 dependency on bad developers. All PalmOS development tools only allow you to create a UI that is up to 160x160 and more importantly, they do so using absolute fixed positions. Therefore, unless you were to create your entire UI dynamically (which is frowned upon) after figuring out the screen res, you're pretty much screwed.
So what I expect Sony will do is trap all the screen interactions at the OS level and use a pixel 4:1 pixel remap so that existing apps function correctly. Then they'll likely provide another screen mode where you can actually access the 320x320 display w/o their remap. And maybe some dev tools that support this...
Unfortunately, the Clie development site doesn't have any details about this yet.
Being a PalmOS developer, I'll address some of this.
Sony chose to make the events that the jog dial triggers be completely proprietary instead of mapping them to something like the pageup/down arrows. Therefore, if you want to support them, you have to listen for those events specifically. It's not hard, but it requires you go to Sony's poorly designed developer support site, and wait 5-7 days to get a header file with the events in them, then go back and implement support in every phase of your app. I've done it, and it's cool, but really since the Clie market penetration is small, most people probably won't bother.
As to the memory stick. Yeah, this is pretty worthless right now, but Palm made a promise that the expansion manager technology they're using in OS/4.0 will support the Clie's memory stick as well as Palm's new SD/MMC standard. Therefore, support for memory sticks might get better, assuming you can flash the Sony devices with OS/4.0 when it comes out (which I doubt since it looks like OS/4.0 won't fit in 2mb).
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Let's be clear. Compaq's iPaq revenue was higher than Palm, but by no means does this mean that the iPaq is the sales leader. Here's a link to the sales numbers for May for instance:
Sales figures for May
This is one of the Via bugs. Don't compile with Athlon optimizations, use the K6 series instead and you'll be ok.
Actually, JMS has commented that they'd save earth in the 2nd or 3rd season (of a 5 year arc) and that the whole arc was about much much more. The save Earth plot was just an introduction to give them something to do to get out there and discover the rest of the plot.
True the Athlon is faster on a per clock basis, but it's a fair comparison to compare the fastest Athlon vs. the fastest P4 since they're both obtainable (although actually the fastest is 1.4 Athlon, 1.7 P4, so we're comparing 1 speed grade down or so).
The new color Palm m505 and the new color Sony clie (710C?) both use this same technology and are quite visible in sunlight.
It's pretty well known that the TBird core was thermal limited, not architecturally limited in speed. It looks like the TBird will top out at 1.4GHz. The Pally core supposedly uses 20% less power, so we can assume it runs about 20% cooler. This means they should be able to achieve 1.7GHz or so out of it, which is pretty competitive with Intel's PIV.
.13 process and should be able to hit 2GHz+
Then they'll move to the
Ok, fair enough point on the time issue, but personally I appreciate that the binary is out so I can begin using their new APIs.
As to the rest, I think Sony understands the GPL because they released the old POSE extensions, so there's little reason to believe they won't now.
I'm all for someone official asking them for their source and politely reminding them of their responsibilities, but the average response in this forum has been "Let's sue their asses off!". Come on, just because you may not like the tactics of Sony's music division (and rightfully so IMHO), does not mean that you can't act in a civilized manner when it comes to something completely unrelated.
Bottom line is I doubt Sony's trying to pull a fast one here because they have previous experience. Beside, the article was written in February which is before the 5/1 post of the new stuff anyway, so I think we're making too much of a big deal out of this because the source is in fact available for what was available in February.
Perhaps, I'm not that up on the GPL either, but can we allow a week for human error and or changes to documentation of the source.
Regardless, the article was written on 2/5/01 which was before the new POSE was out, so he had to be referring to the old version, which as I stated above does indeed have source available.
Um, the scroll wheel was in the previous Clie, and the source for that emulator has been available for months, so I don't think your argument holds water.
The older Clie also supported the memory stick, but I forget offhand if the emulator did.
I'm a registered Sony PDA developer, so I checked out this claim.
It is true that Sony released a new POSE for the new Clie.
However, the POSE used for the previous Clie is still available, AS IS ITS SOURCE!
Looking at the new emulator, it was just posted 2 days ago (5/1/01). My guess is that they'll release the source real soon now, but it probably wasn't quite ready for prime time just yet.
Personally, I'm glad they released the new emulator and ROMs in a timely fashion. Sure, they are required to release the new source as well, but before we jump all over them, let's give them a few days at the very least.
Acttually, more worrying than this is that, let's say you get kicked off a small mom & pop ISP because they think you were trading something you weren't. To use your example, let's say you were sending home movies to your grandparents, but they kicked you anyway.
Who's really left in the ISP business? Right now it's boiling down to AOL/TW and a bunch of large phone companies. Eventually those who are providing you access will be those who want to stop you from doing anything with their content, so even though they have the 'will' to fight, they're obviously not going to fight themselves.
So, hold on to your small ISP for as long as possible, but eventually all content will be megacorp controlled.
Ugh...I wish people would do some research...
Palm, is indeed dropping the 68k in about a year for the ARM, and what may or may not be called PalmOS 5. The kernel they'll be using is still to be determined and is not "almost certainly going to be a 32bit multitasking". It's possible, sure, but let's not overstate, just yet.
Technically true, but you'll get tons of "You should subscribe" messages that pretty much make it unusable as a pure Digital VCR.
Personally, $10/month for what TiVo provides is fine by me.
Grab yourself a new m500 or m505 (later this month) and a 64mb MMC or SD card (they'll hit 1gb by the end of the year).
Interestingly enough this service isn't available in North Carolina. Since you're charged per call (or at least that's how it was when it started) and the phone company had no way of proving the # of calls it blocked out, they deemed it illegal to sell such a service because they could conceivably charge customers an arbitrary amount of money per month.
I think you should ammend your "many people have burnt or cracked their chips" with "people who do not follow AMD's cooling recommendations or improperly try to force a non-socket A cooler on to their chips".
Sigh...Letterman's humorous gripes were just that, humor. And in any event they were about TiVo's (sometimes less than perfect) suggestions which can be turned off easily, not about privacy.
Or you could put a heatsync & fan on the thing for $10 and be done with it.
/w proper cooling, it works great.
... that's pretty good if you ask me.
Seriously, I'm sick of this type of AMD bashing. Yes if you run the chip w/o proper cooling it'll die, but on the other hand, if you run it
Case in point. I built a system for a friend on a Duron 750. Got the generic $9 cooling fan solution and some thermal paste. Pasted it up good, put the heatsync & fan on, booted it up and all is fine. Even after running for hours doing 100% CPU load, it won't get hotter than about 100 degrees F
Except of course that with any modern VCR the time doesn't get reset on power outages, or even an extended unplugged time. Ah well, your loss.
There's nothing about PalmOS v4.0 that inherently implies 160x160 only. A 320x320 device would work just fine with OS 4. The thing about screen doubling is that it's necessary to make sure old apps run correctly. New apps could be written to take explicit advantage of a bigger display.
Also, apps do not run off of SD unfortunately. They are copied to main memory, run, and then put back.
Yeah good point. I didn't mean to say that Sony shouldn't have had a way to distinguish the jog dial from the page up/down. Modifying the default handler would have been appropriate in this instance.
Ah, good point. I meant the old Clie though like the guy currently has. It's disappointing he's going to have to dump his $400 investment to use Memory Sticks to their true potential. Price of early adoption I guess.
Actually, let's not blame the 160x160 dependency on bad developers. All PalmOS development tools only allow you to create a UI that is up to 160x160 and more importantly, they do so using absolute fixed positions. Therefore, unless you were to create your entire UI dynamically (which is frowned upon) after figuring out the screen res, you're pretty much screwed.
So what I expect Sony will do is trap all the screen interactions at the OS level and use a pixel 4:1 pixel remap so that existing apps function correctly. Then they'll likely provide another screen mode where you can actually access the 320x320 display w/o their remap. And maybe some dev tools that support this...
Unfortunately, the Clie development site doesn't have any details about this yet.
Being a PalmOS developer, I'll address some of this.
Sony chose to make the events that the jog dial triggers be completely proprietary instead of mapping them to something like the pageup/down arrows. Therefore, if you want to support them, you have to listen for those events specifically. It's not hard, but it requires you go to Sony's poorly designed developer support site, and wait 5-7 days to get a header file with the events in them, then go back and implement support in every phase of your app. I've done it, and it's cool, but really since the Clie market penetration is small, most people probably won't bother.
As to the memory stick. Yeah, this is pretty worthless right now, but Palm made a promise that the expansion manager technology they're using in OS/4.0 will support the Clie's memory stick as well as Palm's new SD/MMC standard. Therefore, support for memory sticks might get better, assuming you can flash the Sony devices with OS/4.0 when it comes out (which I doubt since it looks like OS/4.0 won't fit in 2mb).
So far as I know Due South was a CBC show that CBS picked up for 2 seasons (later run by TNT). Great show though.