I was actually thinking of including this in my reply, but it didn't seem proper as a response to the parent statement. It would seem to say that if Microsoft and Open Source projects both employ a similar structure during development, then the Open Source model really does enjoy a slight advantage because all of the code is visible to "fresh" eyes that are not otherwise involved in the project.
A highly structured and organized operating system developed under the instruction of a central authority, no doubt?
You know, when I read the article, I was thinking: This sounds almost exactly like how Linux is developed, except that all the authors aren't employed by the same company. Who would have thought that the Open Source development model would be the same as that at Microsoft?
Should read "The Two-Income Trap" by Elizabeth Warren.
From your description, it sounds interesting. If I can find the extra time, I'll try to take a look at it. I think I'll probably be in agreement. In the case of my family, I chose to live in an area that doesn't have a "preferential" school district because I'm paying the extra to send the kids to a private school anyway. Pretty much all of the public schools in Pennsylvania are useless in my book. One of my friends from work has her kid in what is supposed to be the best public school in the area, and she's completely disgusted with the school. I sat there and listened to her list all of her complaints, and it sounded almost like the list of reasons I used to justify private school for my kids.
I believe the point is if MS did this, it wouldn't matter how fast they removed the infected binaries, there would be a string of posts pontificating on how this clearly demonstrates linux/firefox as superior.
Let's compare apples to apples here. If MS was offering infected binaries form one of THEIR sites, yes, we'd be jumping down their throat. On the other hand, if MS decided to let Download.com distribute versions of a "freeware" application (like Messenger), and the binaries on Download.com were infected, most of us would just be avoiding Download.com like the plague. Sure, some people would still blame Microsoft, just as some people are going to blame Mozilla here.
Now, having said all of that, I'll bring up the question of accountability. Since Mozilla is being distributed by public mirrors, it's probably a REALLY good idea to have some sort of guidelines that need to be met by the administrators to make sure this doesn't happen on a "Mozilla-certified" mirror. Maybe this is already in place.
In other words, while incomes maybe have increased only two- or possibly three-fold in the past 30 years, real estate has gone up by an entire order of magnitude.
This is, at least in part, due to a credit-hungry society and lower interest rates. I know that 30 years ago, people would have been less willing to have such a large mortgage. Also, if I recall correctly, the interest rates in the 70s were sky high.
I don't think this case would be considered spontaneous combustion since the build up of static electricity is an ignition source, then it's normal combustion once the fuel reaches its flash point.
Even in cases of unexplained Spontaneous Combustion, it's probably not really spontaneous. It's just that nobody really knows what the ignition source is, and Spontaneous Human Combustion just sounds so much cooler than Human Combustion by Unknown Ignition Source.
In the U.S., the Do Not Call Registry was about as effective as well. The bosses signed up our business phone lines and nothing has really changed. We still get on average of 20-50 solicitation calls a day.
Really? It sounds like "the bosses" need to follow up. The DNC Registry has been wonderful for us. It seems that almost everybody is following the rules. Only calls from charities, politicians, existing business partners and surveys get through. The surveys started to get out of hand for a while when companies purporting to take a survey were trying to use it to sell products, but that seems to have died away. I think that's because the FTC added some language to their terms to indicate that they will be heavy-handed with companies seeking to sell products through the survey.
The graph isn't showing Linux; it's showing VA Linux, which had ESR on its board of directors. Again, the point is to show the ineffectiveness of ESR against Microsoft through comparison.
Thank you. You're pretty much the only one that answered my post with a rational explanation.;)
You're distracting yourself with the Linux company, which wasn't the point.
Then why was it included in the graph at all? Based on what I saw in the graph, the point looks very much like an attempt to compare Microsoft and "Linux."
Hmm, dunno, I would imagine an 'avoidance of cities' trait might not do so well, as there are probably more avalable sex partners & better chances of reproduction where more people congregate.
This might be true if, in general, people did not keep the number of partners with which they reproduce down to about one or two during their lifetime. Obviously, there are plenty of exceptions to this, but in recent civilized history, people have mostly stuck to one or two families.
So you're happy to keep paying for your spam, so you can keep the ability to transfer your cell phone to a landline at some unspecified point in the future, if you ever do.
No, we just want the unsolicited calls to stop completely. You should also be aware that there was at one time (and may still be in some areas) a budget calling plan (sometimes called message rate) for which both incoming and outgoing calls were charged either a per-connection or per-minute fee. That means that someone who struggled just being able to afford phone service could be put in a bad situation by telemarketers. You might think it is "unfair" to the telmarketers to have little or no way to determine whether they will be billed the entire cost of the call. I personally consider it the "cost of doing business." Nobody actually WANTS to be interrupted during dinner by these jerks. If you're going to do business this way, you should accept the risks associated with it. We could make it slightly easier for them by automatically adding mobile phone numbers to the federal do-not-call list. We could also ask the maintainers of the list to add a "mobile phone" flag to the listing.
Just for the record, there are many people taking advantage of the number portability requirements. Tons of people are dropping their landlines and switching to mobile-only service. And I myself ported my number to Vonage. Considering that the Bell monopolies have been charging us for something like 10 years for the "convenience" of number portability, I'm certainly not going to give up the right to phone spammers.
CO2 does not destroy ozone. CFCs destroy ozone. They were not developed until 1928, and didn't become widespread until the 1960s.
I don't think you answered the question. (or maybe I need to read both the BBC and CNN articles...) The question is: "How do we know what the ozone layer above Antarctica looked like prior to the industrial revolution?" A good subquestion might be: "Was there a hole at all?"
Open Sourceforge,net and search for programs of interest to home users. Subtract those which are in a hopelessly immature state for non-technical users and those which are multi-platform or native Windows projects. What do you have left? Perform the same search at Download.com for Windows and at Amazon.com for Windows....
This is almost completely irrelevant. While you and I may spend endless hours of fun downloading and installing new software, the Granny-generation (about which I was responding) is not likely to ever install any new applications on their computer. For them, web browser, email, chat and office applications are pretty much all they will ever use.
Nevertheless, what you said is certainly true. Windows has more software available for it. I just don't think it really matters that much, except for gaming.
Oh please, pretty please. Explain to me why, why in this case, Linux, in its greatest magnificient userfriendliness, doesn't surpass Windows usage when it comes to pops and moms computer?
One reason and one reason only. Most vendors do not ship Linux pre-installed on computers, and for those that do, Windows is the default. It takes a lot of effort and time to change the course of such a large ship. If and when most of the vendors are customizing and supporting Linux pre-installs just like Windows pre-installs, you will not only see more widespread desktop usage. You'll also see less hardware compatibility issues.
Because bashing windows without any objectivity to that rate is not considered editorial anymore in my book.
Actually, I felt it was bashing the tired old arguments being spewed out by Microsoft. It was basically showing that everytime Microsoft points a finger at the problems with Linux, they have three fingers pointing back at their own problems.
Next, since when does my grand mother needed to use a freaking command line to do any of her stuff?
Did you *really* read the article? You are reiterating one of the arguments that the article attacked. The truth is, your grandmother wouldn't need to use the command line for anything on one of the modern "desktop-friendly" distributions. At least, not any more than she would have to drop to a command prompt or run the registry editor on a Windows system.
Also, want to talk about games runned full rate? I don't know many power Unreal or Battlefield 2 players who use Transgaming...
Yeah, I guess your grandmother will have to be a lot more careful about what games she chooses.
call me troll, or overrated, but I really think I've made my point
I don't think you're a troll, but I also don't think you read the article carefully enough. Or at least you didn't fully understand the spirit of the article. However, there is one point we probably agree on. At the end, Steven says "When you really think about it, you can see why there are lots of reasons not to use Linux. There just aren't any good ones." I don't agree with him. I think there are some legitimate reasons not to use Linux. It's just that the ones he listed and poked fun at aren't very good ones anymore.
Regardless of whether Apple released the iPod before the patent (which they did), Apple failed to secure a patent before Microsoft did. November-ish 2002 would have been too late. Since Apple doesn't own the patent, they still have to pay licensing fees.
Umm, no. They released the iPod in November, 2001. Although they were late applying for their patent, and therefore can no longer receive a patent on their technology, the fact that they have a product that was on the market before Microsoft even filed for their patent would automatically invalidate Microsoft's patent. Wouldn't it? We call it prior art, don't we?
1. Steal Apple's technology 2. File a patent before they can 3. Profit!
Erm, what am I missing here? Apple introduced the iPod in November, 2001. MS applied for the patent in May, 2002. If they are claiming that th iPod is in violation of their patent, wouldn't the fact that the iPod was released prior to the filing date at least be considered prior art???!?!?
TFA talks about cars getting up to 250MPG, this dude has a car that gets around 80
More importantly, it's not really even getting 80 MPG. This whole thing belongs in the realm of laughable pseudo-science. The car is a combination hybrid / plug-in. So, you plug it in and charge the battery, and then you use that stored charge to supplement what is generated from the engine and dynamos in the brakes. While I admit that this can be a useful addition to the environment, let's all not forget that most of the electricity used in the world is produced by coal, natural gas or nuclear reaction -- all of which are frowned upon by the environmentally conscious. And, since we are using electricity by plugging into our homes, this actually works out to be MORE EXPENSIVE than gasoline (assuming approximately 6.5 cents per kwh.
Yeah, uh, I don't see me caring about this review of inkjet printers either.
I personally didn't find it very helpful. Pretty much all of their advice is common sense for most people. If you didn't already know these things, you probably wouldn't have been able to find their web site or article to read anyway. I was hoping they would provide a little more meat, like perhaps some of the more underhanded practices of particular manufacturers....
I would like to know the way that the music industry in any way can help the UK equivalent to the FBI find and stop radicals intent on killing.
In other news today, the RIAA announced that it plans to temporarily suspend its campaign against music piracy and devote its efforts to the search in Aruba for missing teenager Natalee Holloway.
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I was actually thinking of including this in my reply, but it didn't seem proper as a response to the parent statement. It would seem to say that if Microsoft and Open Source projects both employ a similar structure during development, then the Open Source model really does enjoy a slight advantage because all of the code is visible to "fresh" eyes that are not otherwise involved in the project.
Mostly because it's not really irrelevant in terms of how Google will target any advertisements you see.
You know, when I read the article, I was thinking: This sounds almost exactly like how Linux is developed, except that all the authors aren't employed by the same company. Who would have thought that the Open Source development model would be the same as that at Microsoft?
From your description, it sounds interesting. If I can find the extra time, I'll try to take a look at it. I think I'll probably be in agreement. In the case of my family, I chose to live in an area that doesn't have a "preferential" school district because I'm paying the extra to send the kids to a private school anyway. Pretty much all of the public schools in Pennsylvania are useless in my book. One of my friends from work has her kid in what is supposed to be the best public school in the area, and she's completely disgusted with the school. I sat there and listened to her list all of her complaints, and it sounded almost like the list of reasons I used to justify private school for my kids.
Let's compare apples to apples here. If MS was offering infected binaries form one of THEIR sites, yes, we'd be jumping down their throat. On the other hand, if MS decided to let Download.com distribute versions of a "freeware" application (like Messenger), and the binaries on Download.com were infected, most of us would just be avoiding Download.com like the plague. Sure, some people would still blame Microsoft, just as some people are going to blame Mozilla here.
Now, having said all of that, I'll bring up the question of accountability. Since Mozilla is being distributed by public mirrors, it's probably a REALLY good idea to have some sort of guidelines that need to be met by the administrators to make sure this doesn't happen on a "Mozilla-certified" mirror. Maybe this is already in place.
This is, at least in part, due to a credit-hungry society and lower interest rates. I know that 30 years ago, people would have been less willing to have such a large mortgage. Also, if I recall correctly, the interest rates in the 70s were sky high.
Even in cases of unexplained Spontaneous Combustion, it's probably not really spontaneous. It's just that nobody really knows what the ignition source is, and Spontaneous Human Combustion just sounds so much cooler than Human Combustion by Unknown Ignition Source.
It will basically get rid of the last reason for not switching to SAP. Indecision can be very exhausting. ;)
Really? It sounds like "the bosses" need to follow up. The DNC Registry has been wonderful for us. It seems that almost everybody is following the rules. Only calls from charities, politicians, existing business partners and surveys get through. The surveys started to get out of hand for a while when companies purporting to take a survey were trying to use it to sell products, but that seems to have died away. I think that's because the FTC added some language to their terms to indicate that they will be heavy-handed with companies seeking to sell products through the survey.
Thank you. You're pretty much the only one that answered my post with a rational explanation. ;)
Then why was it included in the graph at all? Based on what I saw in the graph, the point looks very much like an attempt to compare Microsoft and "Linux."
This might be true if, in general, people did not keep the number of partners with which they reproduce down to about one or two during their lifetime. Obviously, there are plenty of exceptions to this, but in recent civilized history, people have mostly stuck to one or two families.
Where is your information source on this? Was this request made by Louisana, or was the request made by other states?
I think maybe the bloke spent *too* much time at the pub. Agreed?
No, software companies promise something in two months, and then distribute a prototype-quality system two years later.
No, we just want the unsolicited calls to stop completely. You should also be aware that there was at one time (and may still be in some areas) a budget calling plan (sometimes called message rate) for which both incoming and outgoing calls were charged either a per-connection or per-minute fee. That means that someone who struggled just being able to afford phone service could be put in a bad situation by telemarketers. You might think it is "unfair" to the telmarketers to have little or no way to determine whether they will be billed the entire cost of the call. I personally consider it the "cost of doing business." Nobody actually WANTS to be interrupted during dinner by these jerks. If you're going to do business this way, you should accept the risks associated with it. We could make it slightly easier for them by automatically adding mobile phone numbers to the federal do-not-call list. We could also ask the maintainers of the list to add a "mobile phone" flag to the listing.
Just for the record, there are many people taking advantage of the number portability requirements. Tons of people are dropping their landlines and switching to mobile-only service. And I myself ported my number to Vonage. Considering that the Bell monopolies have been charging us for something like 10 years for the "convenience" of number portability, I'm certainly not going to give up the right to phone spammers.
I don't think you answered the question. (or maybe I need to read both the BBC and CNN articles...) The question is: "How do we know what the ozone layer above Antarctica looked like prior to the industrial revolution?" A good subquestion might be: "Was there a hole at all?"
This is almost completely irrelevant. While you and I may spend endless hours of fun downloading and installing new software, the Granny-generation (about which I was responding) is not likely to ever install any new applications on their computer. For them, web browser, email, chat and office applications are pretty much all they will ever use.
Nevertheless, what you said is certainly true. Windows has more software available for it. I just don't think it really matters that much, except for gaming.
One reason and one reason only. Most vendors do not ship Linux pre-installed on computers, and for those that do, Windows is the default. It takes a lot of effort and time to change the course of such a large ship. If and when most of the vendors are customizing and supporting Linux pre-installs just like Windows pre-installs, you will not only see more widespread desktop usage. You'll also see less hardware compatibility issues.
Because bashing windows without any objectivity to that rate is not considered editorial anymore in my book.
Actually, I felt it was bashing the tired old arguments being spewed out by Microsoft. It was basically showing that everytime Microsoft points a finger at the problems with Linux, they have three fingers pointing back at their own problems.
Next, since when does my grand mother needed to use a freaking command line to do any of her stuff?
Did you *really* read the article? You are reiterating one of the arguments that the article attacked. The truth is, your grandmother wouldn't need to use the command line for anything on one of the modern "desktop-friendly" distributions. At least, not any more than she would have to drop to a command prompt or run the registry editor on a Windows system.
Also, want to talk about games runned full rate? I don't know many power Unreal or Battlefield 2 players who use Transgaming...
Yeah, I guess your grandmother will have to be a lot more careful about what games she chooses.
call me troll, or overrated, but I really think I've made my point
I don't think you're a troll, but I also don't think you read the article carefully enough. Or at least you didn't fully understand the spirit of the article. However, there is one point we probably agree on. At the end, Steven says "When you really think about it, you can see why there are lots of reasons not to use Linux. There just aren't any good ones." I don't agree with him. I think there are some legitimate reasons not to use Linux. It's just that the ones he listed and poked fun at aren't very good ones anymore.
Umm, no. They released the iPod in November, 2001. Although they were late applying for their patent, and therefore can no longer receive a patent on their technology, the fact that they have a product that was on the market before Microsoft even filed for their patent would automatically invalidate Microsoft's patent. Wouldn't it? We call it prior art, don't we?
Erm, what am I missing here? Apple introduced the iPod in November, 2001. MS applied for the patent in May, 2002. If they are claiming that th iPod is in violation of their patent, wouldn't the fact that the iPod was released prior to the filing date at least be considered prior art???!?!?
More importantly, it's not really even getting 80 MPG. This whole thing belongs in the realm of laughable pseudo-science. The car is a combination hybrid / plug-in. So, you plug it in and charge the battery, and then you use that stored charge to supplement what is generated from the engine and dynamos in the brakes. While I admit that this can be a useful addition to the environment, let's all not forget that most of the electricity used in the world is produced by coal, natural gas or nuclear reaction -- all of which are frowned upon by the environmentally conscious. And, since we are using electricity by plugging into our homes, this actually works out to be MORE EXPENSIVE than gasoline (assuming approximately 6.5 cents per kwh.
No, that's my vomit that you smell. ;)
I personally didn't find it very helpful. Pretty much all of their advice is common sense for most people. If you didn't already know these things, you probably wouldn't have been able to find their web site or article to read anyway. I was hoping they would provide a little more meat, like perhaps some of the more underhanded practices of particular manufacturers....
In other news today, the RIAA announced that it plans to temporarily suspend its campaign against music piracy and devote its efforts to the search in Aruba for missing teenager Natalee Holloway.