The attitude of coders is definitely part of the problem. Even lauded projects like Winex don't have a slick, Loki-style installer that handles everything for you. In this day and age, yes, a unified installshield kind of app is badly needed. One that, if you use an rpm-based system, can solve any dependency issues you run into. I realize that Mandrake has urpmi and Redhat has red carpet, and it's enough for some power users, but the average moron won't get it. He'll think it doesn't work if he has to do some searching around to fix it and configure it.
Seems to me that coders are more focused on coding than making apps simple to use and configure. There are some exceptions but by and large you'll be piling through the man pages eventually, figuring out arcane commandline switches that *should* be options in a graphical interface.
I usually agree wholeheartedly with you Spongebob, but you got this one wrong: Microsoft isn't the best from a technical point of view, but in the eyes of the average Joe, they do a great job of customer service and helping people out.
That's not true at all. What do most windows users do when they run into trouble? They don't hit microsoft.com. They don't give MS their credit card number and pay a shitload of cash for live tech support. What they really do is call their 'computer geek friend' that usually has a solution. Every newbie has one, and alot of experienced windows users know that one guy they can call that will help them out. The web is a great resource also but 99% of the time, the fix isn't from Microsoft.
In stark contrast, forums like mandrakeuser.org are a haven for newbies, filled with knowledgable people and a variety of problems/fixes. #mandrake on openprojects is the same way. There are literally thousands of resources for someone getting started on linux but if you don't have net access or a clue about the first place to start looking you're in trouble. Only when you know a 'linux geek friend' will your answers start appearing. Maybe someday there will be more and they will be willing to help, and it'll make the transition easier for everyone else.
this will happen about the same time the MBA selects Dr. Hawking as a star player.
MBA? What is that? Someone with a Master's degree in Business Administration? Wacky.
Oh, maybe you meant NBA, the National Basketball's Association. In that case, your presumption isn't too far fetched. Dr. Hawking already has a powered exoskeleton he can use to fight crime AND play basketball. So I guess those ATI drivers are just around the corner!
Optimize the old cards into obsolescence? Um, I don't know if you've been paying attention, but each upgrade nvidia makes to their drivers actually INCREASES framerates, even on older cards. My brother is still using a TNT2 Ultra and his framerates DOUBLED with a driver release a few months back.
I wouldn't try it. One glance at the logs on either of my apache boxes tells the truth: code red/nimda is still everywhere, looking for new boxes to hijack. The friend I mentioned put his box online back in April. He more or less set it up and had to go home for the day...tried to terminal services in and it was already cracked. Had weird ftp services running on it and everything. It's just a sad, sad day when you put a server up, walk away, and it's cracked before you get back from the bathroom. I know it's irresponsible of the admin, but even more irresponsible of the vendor.
I'll second that 26 minutes with win2k/IIS. I have a friend that insists on serving with that ill combination, and he got rooted/cracked/whatever within 25 minutes of connecting to the net. I couldn't stop laughing.
Keeping this in mind, it's pretty much impossible to beat Superman twice, isn't it? If you kick his ass and he breaks loose, he'll turn back time and kick your ass preemptively. Or, truer to character, he'll alter things in his or your life to prevent you two ever coming together for the previous (future) battle. Funny how he never considers the danger of paradoxes or anything else related with time travel and altering 'the course of things'.
If you're gunning for the Pres, I think hitting the WTC with 2 planes and the Pentagon with another is missing your mark _just a little_. Seems more like you're hitting Jewish folks and washington war mongers to me.
Haven't you seen the last 3 Batman's? Batman *always* gets the hotties. Superman on the other hand is stuck with dumpy, whiny Lois Lane. Spiderman is the ultimate pimp though. He has technology AND supernatural ability, plus he gets to bang Kirsten Dunst (the rain shot...ooooh). Batman is all tech, Superman is all supernatural, but Spiderman is the best of both worlds.
Spiderman vs. Batman would be alot more interesting.
Wow you have a good point there. The cost effectiveness of the PS2 isn't matched by the XBox, a run-of-the-mill, cut-down pc which COMPLETELY LACKS THE ABILITY TO RUN LINUX OR APACHE at this time.
If you hadn't noticed yet, the PS2 can run linux and Sony supports it. OTOH, the XBox can't run linux and MS will never support it, in reality, they've done all they can to prevent it thus far.
Let's do some more comparisons if/when the XBox runs linux and there's a post about Apache running on linux/Xbox ok?
Posts like the parent are living proof of a dire need for this option. Everyone knows that the ps2 linux kit comes with a hard drive by now, and adding a larger one is probably a trivial task.
Yeah the linux ps2 kit comes with a keyboard, mouse, vga-adapter cable, hard drive, toothpaste and sony branded comb. That way you can look as good as you feel.
Where's the excitement? Where's the buzz? Most Americans probably have the 'been there done that' feeling about the Moon. It's really not fascinating _at all_. It's been measured, probed, sampled, flagged. Done. I think the best idea is to use the moon as a jumping-off point to explore the rest of the universe.
My personal feelings on the matter is that any space exploration is a good idea because I like science. I don't think most Americans really care unless it's something as grandiose as "Men Travel to Mars: Russia Splits Bill" on the front page. The ISS is hurting due to lack of interest and funding. Sad as it seems, the nations of the world NEED to do something like visit Mars to generate interest. Interest=cash flow.
The best way to do this is to make it a one-way trip. Anyone who gets on the ship should be well aware they're not coming back. That'd cut costs significantly. Look at it this way: if we send old people, depressed people, whatever, people predisposed to not living for many more years, well, what's the loss? For the old folks it'll be the greatest time of their lives. For the depressed, hell it may even cheer them up but they'll get depressed when they realize they're never coming back and probably off themselves.
The trick is guaranteeing the depressed people don't kill themselves too soon and get some research work done. The old folks will probably feel better in zero G (arthritis may not bother your without gravity) and I believe their hearts will do well also. No worries there.
"Mommy where's grampa?"
"He went to Mars honey, he won't be coming back."
"Where's Mars?"
"It's that reddish star right-over-there."
Beats the hell out of saying grampa went to heaven, after all.
Exploring another planet in our solar system is just what the space programs need to generate newfound interest. Nobody really cares about the ISS. It barely makes a 50 word story in the paper when they send up another branch of it. Sad but true. OTOH, Mars is a much more interesting topic. It's our nearest neighbor and will generate tons of info maybe even regarding our origins. The research could take decades to complete, thereby leading to advances in space travel, which naturally leads us to explore other planets. I think Mars is the ideal stepping stone and probably the most important goal in the near future.
Either WorldCom or Enron. Price must be no object to your department and your servers. A 36GB fast scsi drive, compared to modern ATA, is worthless and overpriced. You can get 4 to 5x that capacity with ata100/133 and kill the 'fast' scsi drive in speed. Desktop scsi is nearly pointless.
Dude I have a pacific digital ide burner in my box, only 16x, and I can burn an ENTIRE cd (that's 700MB) in 4 minutes or less. It pauses 10 seconds prior to burning to check power levels and allow me to cancel, then hauls ass until it's done. Fixating the cd is so fast I don't even notice it. Never heard of feurio but I use either gtoaster or webmin's cd-burning module in linux (mandrake 8.2 or gentoo). Something is seriously wrong with your box dude.
The burn proof technology has been built into every cdr/w ide drive since 98 or so. Maybe even earlier. I picked up this little tidbit when I was looking for commandline instructions for burning an iso in linux. A 4x scsi burner is a sad, slow device indeed.
I hate to snipe you from your high horse, but ata133 or even ata100 with a decent 7200 rpm drive will meet or beat any scsi less than scsi160. Mainly because most SCSI160UW drives are 10k rpm drives with big caches. At any rate, the bang for the buck award goes to IDE.
Let me put it this way. You're in the market for a fairly quick machine. You have 2k to spend. Do you put money into your video card, quality motherboard, ram and affordable, big, quick ata drives or do you skimp on EVERYTHING and get a crazy expensive scsi controller and an ungodly priced scsi 160uw 10k rpm drive? I think that one answers itself.
In a world where price is no object, everyone would use scsi. Unfortunately nobody lives in that world.
BTW your quip about self-respecting whoever using a rig with ATA? Guess what, once Apple was satisfied with A/V capable ATA drives they found the holy grail for bringing their price down. I've seen/used lots of A/V rigs with ATA drives. Apple had no choice but to use ATA to bring their prices down. No matter how you look at it, SCSI is and always will be overpriced.
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The attitude of coders is definitely part of the problem. Even lauded projects like Winex don't have a slick, Loki-style installer that handles everything for you. In this day and age, yes, a unified installshield kind of app is badly needed. One that, if you use an rpm-based system, can solve any dependency issues you run into. I realize that Mandrake has urpmi and Redhat has red carpet, and it's enough for some power users, but the average moron won't get it. He'll think it doesn't work if he has to do some searching around to fix it and configure it.
Seems to me that coders are more focused on coding than making apps simple to use and configure. There are some exceptions but by and large you'll be piling through the man pages eventually, figuring out arcane commandline switches that *should* be options in a graphical interface.
I usually agree wholeheartedly with you Spongebob, but you got this one wrong: Microsoft isn't the best from a technical point of view, but in the eyes of the average Joe, they do a great job of customer service and helping people out.
That's not true at all. What do most windows users do when they run into trouble? They don't hit microsoft.com. They don't give MS their credit card number and pay a shitload of cash for live tech support. What they really do is call their 'computer geek friend' that usually has a solution. Every newbie has one, and alot of experienced windows users know that one guy they can call that will help them out. The web is a great resource also but 99% of the time, the fix isn't from Microsoft.
In stark contrast, forums like mandrakeuser.org are a haven for newbies, filled with knowledgable people and a variety of problems/fixes. #mandrake on openprojects is the same way. There are literally thousands of resources for someone getting started on linux but if you don't have net access or a clue about the first place to start looking you're in trouble. Only when you know a 'linux geek friend' will your answers start appearing. Maybe someday there will be more and they will be willing to help, and it'll make the transition easier for everyone else.
You must be the same guy that posted the article. Irak and satalite, together at last.
http://www.somethingawful.com/~jeffk
this will happen about the same time the MBA selects Dr. Hawking as a star player.
MBA? What is that? Someone with a Master's degree in Business Administration? Wacky.
Oh, maybe you meant NBA, the National Basketball's Association. In that case, your presumption isn't too far fetched. Dr. Hawking already has a powered exoskeleton he can use to fight crime AND play basketball. So I guess those ATI drivers are just around the corner!
Optimize the old cards into obsolescence? Um, I don't know if you've been paying attention, but each upgrade nvidia makes to their drivers actually INCREASES framerates, even on older cards. My brother is still using a TNT2 Ultra and his framerates DOUBLED with a driver release a few months back.
I think a crack pipe is calling your name.
Natalie Portman is so last year. Now it's all about Kirsten Dunst.
Maybe next time they'll use something besides helium to inflate it. Woops.
I wouldn't try it. One glance at the logs on either of my apache boxes tells the truth: code red/nimda is still everywhere, looking for new boxes to hijack. The friend I mentioned put his box online back in April. He more or less set it up and had to go home for the day...tried to terminal services in and it was already cracked. Had weird ftp services running on it and everything. It's just a sad, sad day when you put a server up, walk away, and it's cracked before you get back from the bathroom. I know it's irresponsible of the admin, but even more irresponsible of the vendor.
I'll second that 26 minutes with win2k/IIS. I have a friend that insists on serving with that ill combination, and he got rooted/cracked/whatever within 25 minutes of connecting to the net. I couldn't stop laughing.
Keeping this in mind, it's pretty much impossible to beat Superman twice, isn't it? If you kick his ass and he breaks loose, he'll turn back time and kick your ass preemptively. Or, truer to character, he'll alter things in his or your life to prevent you two ever coming together for the previous (future) battle. Funny how he never considers the danger of paradoxes or anything else related with time travel and altering 'the course of things'.
If you're gunning for the Pres, I think hitting the WTC with 2 planes and the Pentagon with another is missing your mark _just a little_. Seems more like you're hitting Jewish folks and washington war mongers to me.
Haven't you seen the last 3 Batman's? Batman *always* gets the hotties. Superman on the other hand is stuck with dumpy, whiny Lois Lane. Spiderman is the ultimate pimp though. He has technology AND supernatural ability, plus he gets to bang Kirsten Dunst (the rain shot...ooooh). Batman is all tech, Superman is all supernatural, but Spiderman is the best of both worlds.
Spiderman vs. Batman would be alot more interesting.
If you're always a terrorist in the game it's gonna affect the game flow.
Every few minutes the battle halts and everyone has to pray towards Mecca. That's gonna suck bigtime.
Don't see alot of girl pilots in real life either, wonder if that's a spatial orientation thing between the sexes.
You forgot the other option:
c) clever link to goatse.cx disguised as a google cache link along with the words "frist pots!!!"
Wow you have a good point there. The cost effectiveness of the PS2 isn't matched by the XBox, a run-of-the-mill, cut-down pc which COMPLETELY LACKS THE ABILITY TO RUN LINUX OR APACHE at this time.
If you hadn't noticed yet, the PS2 can run linux and Sony supports it. OTOH, the XBox can't run linux and MS will never support it, in reality, they've done all they can to prevent it thus far.
Let's do some more comparisons if/when the XBox runs linux and there's a post about Apache running on linux/Xbox ok?
Still begging for a new moderation option folks:
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Posts like the parent are living proof of a dire need for this option. Everyone knows that the ps2 linux kit comes with a hard drive by now, and adding a larger one is probably a trivial task.
Yeah the linux ps2 kit comes with a keyboard, mouse, vga-adapter cable, hard drive, toothpaste and sony branded comb. That way you can look as good as you feel.
Where's the excitement? Where's the buzz? Most Americans probably have the 'been there done that' feeling about the Moon. It's really not fascinating _at all_. It's been measured, probed, sampled, flagged. Done. I think the best idea is to use the moon as a jumping-off point to explore the rest of the universe.
My personal feelings on the matter is that any space exploration is a good idea because I like science. I don't think most Americans really care unless it's something as grandiose as "Men Travel to Mars: Russia Splits Bill" on the front page. The ISS is hurting due to lack of interest and funding. Sad as it seems, the nations of the world NEED to do something like visit Mars to generate interest. Interest=cash flow.
The best way to do this is to make it a one-way trip. Anyone who gets on the ship should be well aware they're not coming back. That'd cut costs significantly. Look at it this way: if we send old people, depressed people, whatever, people predisposed to not living for many more years, well, what's the loss? For the old folks it'll be the greatest time of their lives. For the depressed, hell it may even cheer them up but they'll get depressed when they realize they're never coming back and probably off themselves.
The trick is guaranteeing the depressed people don't kill themselves too soon and get some research work done. The old folks will probably feel better in zero G (arthritis may not bother your without gravity) and I believe their hearts will do well also. No worries there.
"Mommy where's grampa?"
"He went to Mars honey, he won't be coming back."
"Where's Mars?"
"It's that reddish star right-over-there."
Beats the hell out of saying grampa went to heaven, after all.
Exploring another planet in our solar system is just what the space programs need to generate newfound interest. Nobody really cares about the ISS. It barely makes a 50 word story in the paper when they send up another branch of it. Sad but true. OTOH, Mars is a much more interesting topic. It's our nearest neighbor and will generate tons of info maybe even regarding our origins. The research could take decades to complete, thereby leading to advances in space travel, which naturally leads us to explore other planets. I think Mars is the ideal stepping stone and probably the most important goal in the near future.
I think I know where you work now.
Either WorldCom or Enron. Price must be no object to your department and your servers. A 36GB fast scsi drive, compared to modern ATA, is worthless and overpriced. You can get 4 to 5x that capacity with ata100/133 and kill the 'fast' scsi drive in speed. Desktop scsi is nearly pointless.
*cough cough* BULLSHIT *cough*
Dude I have a pacific digital ide burner in my box, only 16x, and I can burn an ENTIRE cd (that's 700MB) in 4 minutes or less. It pauses 10 seconds prior to burning to check power levels and allow me to cancel, then hauls ass until it's done. Fixating the cd is so fast I don't even notice it. Never heard of feurio but I use either gtoaster or webmin's cd-burning module in linux (mandrake 8.2 or gentoo). Something is seriously wrong with your box dude.
Welcome to this decade...
The burn proof technology has been built into every cdr/w ide drive since 98 or so. Maybe even earlier. I picked up this little tidbit when I was looking for commandline instructions for burning an iso in linux. A 4x scsi burner is a sad, slow device indeed.
Yeah and it needs to be more expensive also. Only god and Bill Gates will be able to afford this new standard. GACK
I hate to snipe you from your high horse, but ata133 or even ata100 with a decent 7200 rpm drive will meet or beat any scsi less than scsi160. Mainly because most SCSI160UW drives are 10k rpm drives with big caches. At any rate, the bang for the buck award goes to IDE.
Let me put it this way. You're in the market for a fairly quick machine. You have 2k to spend. Do you put money into your video card, quality motherboard, ram and affordable, big, quick ata drives or do you skimp on EVERYTHING and get a crazy expensive scsi controller and an ungodly priced scsi 160uw 10k rpm drive? I think that one answers itself.
In a world where price is no object, everyone would use scsi. Unfortunately nobody lives in that world.
BTW your quip about self-respecting whoever using a rig with ATA? Guess what, once Apple was satisfied with A/V capable ATA drives they found the holy grail for bringing their price down. I've seen/used lots of A/V rigs with ATA drives. Apple had no choice but to use ATA to bring their prices down. No matter how you look at it, SCSI is and always will be overpriced.