Well, the Wifi network is new, and as I stated in one of my other emails, it doesn't work in the apartments all the time, the students are blaming the routers, the school is blaming the student's access points(Yes, I know what the article is says, but that's just not the case). The school internet is also pretty slow, it is based on campus and in the apartments it is a bunch of repeaters as well as access points. It was done as an afterthought in most apartments. When I lived there, they had it, but I didn't have a wifi card. One of my roommies did, but you had to be in the hallway by the door to use the Wifi, not even in the living room could you get access to it.
Well you are right, they do own those apartments though, they are managed by a 3rd party, but the apartments are owned by UTD, the property as well as the buildings.
The real problem, as told to me by a friend who goes there(I used to go there) is they implemented campus-wide Wifi. In order to prevent unauthorized people from using the network, they put in 802.11x(the authentication mech, forgive me if I got the name wrong). It works, but only near an access point, not behind the repeaters, i.e. only a few people can use it in the apartments at all. So they are blaming it on other people's Wifi interfering with the auth mechanisms, but calling it "piracy" to get people to do it and make it sound more kosher.
My friend is sure as hell glad he doesn't live on campus, he made that mistake last year and a few years before that(moved off then back on b/c of scholarship).
You aren't even allowed to burn candles in those apartments, it's just silly, there is no service, and the water sprinklers go off every morning, rain or shine, for no reason, and long enough to create patches of dead grass b/c of overwatering and to create giant mud puddles.
1) Accept, without proper testing, Electronic Voting Machines. Pay ridiculous amount. 2) Find out machines suck 3) SUE for Much More than the original cost 4) PROFIT!!
The best part of the iPod mini is the click wheel. I jog a lot and have a difficult time switching songs with the click wheel. Once you get used to it is is fine. This is just ridiculously small.
Hey, all these people think the world owes them a living, remember? I can do whatever I want with my e-mail accounts, and use gmail as a back up. Considering 1) I don't own it. 2) I don't control it. 3) It is free. 4) It is a service from a company. and 5) I don't own it, no matter how hard I believe. Considering all those, I feel that I can do whatever I want with Gmail that they allow me.
My goodness, POP3/Imap support? Isn't that a little ridiculous? For $10-$30 a month you can get a hosted account with domain name and unlimited e-mail addy's, do whatever you want with them, and many offer IMAP and webmail.
"Shouldn't I be free to use whatever third party software to check my email?"
Of course you can, get a server, or a traditional POP/IMAP server, and whatever third party software you want to use!
"Personally, I find Google's gmail notifier annoying since it sits in my taskbar and doesn't have popup notification"
Mine pops up a little box when there is new e-mail, it gives the subj, from, and a bit of the text too, not in a pop-up, but right on the taskbar, so it's not in the way, but clear and easy to read/use. Very awesome. So I'm not sure which version you are using, but mine works great. It's like thunderbird, but thunderbird says "x new e-mails for blahblah@blahblah.com" and that's cool, but this is really awesome.
But there is a lot of research going on about neural plasticity(check out google). So maybe we can develop a way not to go against it, but to eliminate it entirely? The research is still new, but very promising. It has debunked the old myth that the brain is hardwired permanently in a way, but it is quite malleable. A good book on this is "Destructive Emotions" which has many good references to various experiments on neural plasticity and meditation. Including a near-complete suppression of the human "startle reflex" which people who fire guns, including policemen and military people, still have. It's quite interesting and to find out that it is wired in the brain leads us closer to finding a way to eliminate it.
Of course you are correct, going against basic instincts is a very bad thing. But what about eliminating them?
A good-looking, fully-functional Jabber client, that is not programmed in Tk/Tcl. =) No, Psi is not fully functional. I need white-board support damnit. No, neos(which has Video and Voice support) is not fully functional, I need it to close without crashing on my XP desktop. I see more new clients for jabber than finished ones. Psi is the best right now, but it is lacking a lot of things, including polish. Hopefully Google's(if it comes to be) would have a finished, polished look that would support some of the great features of Jabber.
We also need a free server that uses the Jabber2 protocol, and works well, and isn't a pain to configure(like jabberd2, but, easy, and needs documentation. To do virtual hosts in Jabberd2, the only instruction is a comment in one of the config files!)
Other than that, once I got my jabber server up, I loved it! Virtual domains rock. And I'm not using any transports or other neat features. So I really hope jabber comes around. And yes, I'm using jabberd2. With SSL I feel safe(unlike the boobs I listen to at starbucks, oops, did I say that?).
Jabber name is: joseph@josephguhlin.com
Rock on. =) Running your own Jabber server is awesome. And hopefully google would follow all standards, so I could keep @josephguhlin.com and connect to friend@google.com
Yeah, I use Thunderbird(and love it) with SSL Imap(never, ever, ever, unencrypted communication for e-mail). When I'm away, I use SquirrelMail(encrypted again, because I tunnel the HTTP through SSH. =)
But, you get my point. Mind you, gmail's interface is much nicer than squirrelmail's, even though squirrelmail works on pretty much everything. All in all I am happy, but it would be nice to have something like Gmail that works locally.
As a side note:
Why am I paranoid about security? Try sitting at the coffeeshop with Ethereal on. Or if not that, then etherwatch. You'll see. You have no idea how many prostitutes work via AIM, you have no idea.
I was using it to make my point. The parent of my post said:
"Anyone on Slashdot......who agrees with, or supports, this in any way, is a fucking hypocrite."
and I was pointing out that there may be people on here who support political censorship, and that not everyone on here fits into his "idea" of a typical slashdotter.
I agree with you, I've seen all kinds of crazy posts modded up, be they right-wing, left-wing, hate-wing, no-wing(me, although I hate the whole concept of "wings" when I agree with both sides, just different parts, I have having to be "100% demo" or "100% repub" when I'm a mixture of both), etc..
I just didn't like the thought of "Everyone here is a hypocrite cuz they all think this is the right way and then supporting this goes against that" when there may be differing opinions.
Because everyone on slashdot thinks and believes the exact same things, right?
Mind you, I'm against it personally, but I do not believe when I became a slashdot reader I was copy and pasted from the main slashdot template to fit in. I think you are a hypocrite for pushing down free speech of others(to say they support it, etc..)
No, but there will never be any scientific evidence either unless there are enough anecdotal cases to warrant government funding somewhere down the line, unfortunately. There are currently tests to gauge what level of autism a person is undergoing, ranging from mild to severe, used by psychiatrists and doctors in this country.
I don't believe diet can cure a lot of problems, but we already know it can cause a lot of problems. Obesity, cholesterol, heart problems, and many others can be eliminated or avoided with a change in diet. Exercise is also important too. But all of those are very very transparent to fix. "High cholesterol? Eat a handful of pecans a day and cut back on the butter/etc." But who is to say that the clogging of blood veins to other parts of the body isn't causing other trouble? Or that the constant pressure on your system from high blood pressure isn't causing other trouble?
Try eating a really bad diet and noting how you feel, then begin eating really healthy(salads, no meat, fruits and veggies, un-cooked or lightly cooked, no processed food) and see how you feel.
There is always someone out there promoting some diet, that's just what you get for having a free and open society where people can publish anything they want.
There is a lot of evidence for inflammatory foods causing wrinkles, and sunlight causing wrinkles is really becoming much more common knowledge.
In the Journal of the National Cancer Institute, Vol. 95, Issue #12, Miso soup consumption was linked with up to a 50% reduced risk of breast cancer. I doubt it would be that high, but that warrants a look into the enzymes in Miso.
We don't really know what effects preservatives and other chemicals in food have on our bodies. 81mg of a certain chemical can reduce heart attack risk by 1/3.
That is a diet change. But to say 81mg(75-100mg recommended, really) chemical that has been studied will reduce heart attack risk but "x" chemical we have not studied has no effect on your body. And yes, there are a lot of preservatives in food. If you eat fast food, candy, sodas, etc.. you will get a lot more of certain chemicals thans 100mg a day. But they are not all bad, but they only have anecdotal evidence that they are safe, as they do not claim to offer a health benefit they do not require anywhere near the same level of testing to be marketed as "safe."
Just my 2c. I'm not a health nut, I have my candy bar on ocassion and fast food when I have to, but I've cut back a lot on that kind of stuff and feel better than ever. I don't suffer from anything and don't plan on it either.
We do know what causes diabetes and we know what cutting back on will help prevent diabetes too.
You may be interested that there is a big trend with changing your diet. More veggies, less meat, less processed, less preservatives. I certainly feel better when I eat salad for a few days a week(salad for lunch and dinner) than I do when I eat a slice or two of pizza. There is actually a treatment for Autism that is a change in diet and increase in nutritional supplements that has been proven to work in a few hundred patients. Not everyone responds. It is a naturally occuring thing, but to give up on it because Med X and Med Y don't work is just ridiculous.
In 2002, the Kushi Institute presented the case of 6 people who had been "2 months to live"(and less! and more) cancer patients who had no tumors after switching their diet and sticking to it for a year or more. 15 Physicians who reviewed it unanimously recommended that the Kushi Institute get government funding for a clinical study. (This was paraphrased from the Mag Alternative Medicine).
http://www.autism.com/ari/dan/dan.html
Dan! Is the resource for "Defeat Autism Now!" who resort to other medicines(not everything is natural!) that have helped a lot of children go from Severe Autism to a very mild level of Autism.
Sorry, just wanted to support your "I just believe that... there are better solutions than drugs.."
I'm not a neo-hippie, I take my antibiotics when I need them, but I haven't been sick in quite some time now eating healthier and healthier every day(except vacation, where I thrive off of pure alcohol!)
They need a better way. Humiliation just causes anger and hate, not "I don't wanna go through that again." Like getting people used to something by having the do it won't make them think it is really that much worse to go through it again, esp. when broadcasted on the net. Anger and hate just lead to people repeating actions. You have to re-habilitate prisoners, of all kinds. Punishment has worked, how effectively? Seriously. Punishment has caused crime to go down what, over the past 2,000 years? Over the past 3,000 years?
Yes, the population is bigger. But, if everything increases with population, then the bubonic pague must be taking out western europe's population every single day. Lots of things have cures and fixed. It's time to go after those.
I do believe people should be locked away from society, but not as punishment, but to protect society and themselves. Rehabilitate them is the way go.
Someone please get some evidence. If the lawyer is sending you letters, evidence. Right there. If the lawyer is only calling you, record it. Interstate phone calls need only one person of the conversation to know it is being recorded. Ditto in Texas. In-state, you'll actually have to check, but saying "I'm going to record this phone call?" When the lawyer calls is a good way, either they say yes, or they say no and you say "Then I can't talk." Either they'll call again and eventually give up, or they'll send a letter or fax(evidence).
So someone, please get some evidence or I can't really believe anyone without a grain o' salt.
Anyways, my two cents. There is no court action going on right now, there is a severe lack of letters, e-mails, faxes, or anything? Seems odd, but it could just be ignorance of what you can do.
I hope it all works out with katie.com getting to keep her own domain though, looking at her site now I don't see any benefit she could be gaining.
I agree, 4 years to be a code monkey? Come on. With 4 years in school you have a lot more knowledge that you should be able to use and apply other than being a code monkey.
Yeah, but still kickin' it in terms of design and looks. =) Mind you, I've heard nothing but good things in terms of the Creative Zen, but iPod has several very good features:
The USB/Firewire port is also the charger. So yes, a USB 2 or FW connection will actually charge the damn thing while you are messing around with it on the computer. Ultra cool. Something you don't really notice though, but you do tend to notice after several days of use that it is only at 1/2 battery b/c it's been in the computer so much. iTrip goes to extensive lengths to match the look of the iPod(now with iTrip mini).
I've got a mini, because, well, I think anyone who has that much music is just collection music for the sake of collecting, or is just silly. And it is much more portable and enjoyable to carry around(including the armband which is just awesome!).
Hmm, although I do enjoying having my power go out while my internet stays on (cable), my UPS powering my comp and my cable modem, and laughing at my neighbors.
Of course the cable goes down in a storm before my frickin' satellite tv. Damnit.
Going to the cell phone menu and hitting "Send Number" and point it at their phone, or send it to their phone with all your details. I'm sure they will be using bluetooth. Of course there still may be some kind of security code to enter, or a 4 digit one time thing so that no one sniffs your addy, nor has to deal with it on their phone. No one wants a keyboard, but entering numbers into a cell phone these days is becoming more and more outdated(definately necessary as it is today).
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Well, the Wifi network is new, and as I stated in one of my other emails, it doesn't work in the apartments all the time, the students are blaming the routers, the school is blaming the student's access points(Yes, I know what the article is says, but that's just not the case). The school internet is also pretty slow, it is based on campus and in the apartments it is a bunch of repeaters as well as access points. It was done as an afterthought in most apartments. When I lived there, they had it, but I didn't have a wifi card. One of my roommies did, but you had to be in the hallway by the door to use the Wifi, not even in the living room could you get access to it.
Well you are right, they do own those apartments though, they are managed by a 3rd party, but the apartments are owned by UTD, the property as well as the buildings.
Yeah, but internet in the room is only provided by Cable or DSL that you pay for, the Wifi is the only one the school gives out for free.
LOL, you got it wrong. If you graduate you get a job at a fast food outlet, it's a mainly CS school, with most of the CS jobs taken.
The real problem, as told to me by a friend who goes there(I used to go there) is they implemented campus-wide Wifi. In order to prevent unauthorized people from using the network, they put in 802.11x(the authentication mech, forgive me if I got the name wrong). It works, but only near an access point, not behind the repeaters, i.e. only a few people can use it in the apartments at all. So they are blaming it on other people's Wifi interfering with the auth mechanisms, but calling it "piracy" to get people to do it and make it sound more kosher.
My friend is sure as hell glad he doesn't live on campus, he made that mistake last year and a few years before that(moved off then back on b/c of scholarship).
You aren't even allowed to burn candles in those apartments, it's just silly, there is no service, and the water sprinklers go off every morning, rain or shine, for no reason, and long enough to create patches of dead grass b/c of overwatering and to create giant mud puddles.
No flies, but it's pretty toxic these days.
1) Accept, without proper testing, Electronic Voting Machines. Pay ridiculous amount.
2) Find out machines suck
3) SUE for Much More than the original cost
4) PROFIT!!
Poor guy
"2) In the FAQ, there is the sentence "You can only use approved creative provided by iTunes." When did "creative" become a noun?"
I think when they invented marketing. Seriously, probably when newspaper ads became widespread. It's a pretty old term in usage as a noun, IIRC.
The best part of the iPod mini is the click wheel. I jog a lot and have a difficult time switching songs with the click wheel. Once you get used to it is is fine. This is just ridiculously small.
Hey, all these people think the world owes them a living, remember? I can do whatever I want with my e-mail accounts, and use gmail as a back up. Considering 1) I don't own it. 2) I don't control it. 3) It is free. 4) It is a service from a company. and 5) I don't own it, no matter how hard I believe. Considering all those, I feel that I can do whatever I want with Gmail that they allow me.
My goodness, POP3/Imap support? Isn't that a little ridiculous? For $10-$30 a month you can get a hosted account with domain name and unlimited e-mail addy's, do whatever you want with them, and many offer IMAP and webmail.
"Shouldn't I be free to use whatever third party software to check my email?"
Of course you can, get a server, or a traditional POP/IMAP server, and whatever third party software you want to use!
"Personally, I find Google's gmail notifier annoying since it sits in my taskbar and doesn't have popup notification"
Mine pops up a little box when there is new e-mail, it gives the subj, from, and a bit of the text too, not in a pop-up, but right on the taskbar, so it's not in the way, but clear and easy to read/use. Very awesome. So I'm not sure which version you are using, but mine works great. It's like thunderbird, but thunderbird says "x new e-mails for blahblah@blahblah.com" and that's cool, but this is really awesome.
But there is a lot of research going on about neural plasticity(check out google). So maybe we can develop a way not to go against it, but to eliminate it entirely? The research is still new, but very promising. It has debunked the old myth that the brain is hardwired permanently in a way, but it is quite malleable. A good book on this is "Destructive Emotions" which has many good references to various experiments on neural plasticity and meditation. Including a near-complete suppression of the human "startle reflex" which people who fire guns, including policemen and military people, still have. It's quite interesting and to find out that it is wired in the brain leads us closer to finding a way to eliminate it.
Of course you are correct, going against basic instincts is a very bad thing. But what about eliminating them?
A good-looking, fully-functional Jabber client, that is not programmed in Tk/Tcl. =) No, Psi is not fully functional. I need white-board support damnit. No, neos(which has Video and Voice support) is not fully functional, I need it to close without crashing on my XP desktop. I see more new clients for jabber than finished ones. Psi is the best right now, but it is lacking a lot of things, including polish. Hopefully Google's(if it comes to be) would have a finished, polished look that would support some of the great features of Jabber.
We also need a free server that uses the Jabber2 protocol, and works well, and isn't a pain to configure(like jabberd2, but, easy, and needs documentation. To do virtual hosts in Jabberd2, the only instruction is a comment in one of the config files!)
Other than that, once I got my jabber server up, I loved it! Virtual domains rock. And I'm not using any transports or other neat features. So I really hope jabber comes around. And yes, I'm using jabberd2. With SSL I feel safe(unlike the boobs I listen to at starbucks, oops, did I say that?).
Jabber name is: joseph@josephguhlin.com
Rock on. =) Running your own Jabber server is awesome. And hopefully google would follow all standards, so I could keep @josephguhlin.com and connect to friend@google.com
Yeah, I use Thunderbird(and love it) with SSL Imap(never, ever, ever, unencrypted communication for e-mail). When I'm away, I use SquirrelMail(encrypted again, because I tunnel the HTTP through SSH. =)
But, you get my point. Mind you, gmail's interface is much nicer than squirrelmail's, even though squirrelmail works on pretty much everything. All in all I am happy, but it would be nice to have something like Gmail that works locally.
As a side note:
Why am I paranoid about security? Try sitting at the coffeeshop with Ethereal on. Or if not that, then etherwatch. You'll see. You have no idea how many prostitutes work via AIM, you have no idea.
I was using it to make my point. The parent of my post said:
...who agrees with, or supports, this in any way, is a fucking hypocrite."
"Anyone on Slashdot...
and I was pointing out that there may be people on here who support political censorship, and that not everyone on here fits into his "idea" of a typical slashdotter.
I agree with you, I've seen all kinds of crazy posts modded up, be they right-wing, left-wing, hate-wing, no-wing(me, although I hate the whole concept of "wings" when I agree with both sides, just different parts, I have having to be "100% demo" or "100% repub" when I'm a mixture of both), etc..
I just didn't like the thought of "Everyone here is a hypocrite cuz they all think this is the right way and then supporting this goes against that" when there may be differing opinions.
Because everyone on slashdot thinks and believes the exact same things, right?
Mind you, I'm against it personally, but I do not believe when I became a slashdot reader I was copy and pasted from the main slashdot template to fit in. I think you are a hypocrite for pushing down free speech of others(to say they support it, etc..)
No, but there will never be any scientific evidence either unless there are enough anecdotal cases to warrant government funding somewhere down the line, unfortunately. There are currently tests to gauge what level of autism a person is undergoing, ranging from mild to severe, used by psychiatrists and doctors in this country.
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I don't believe diet can cure a lot of problems, but we already know it can cause a lot of problems. Obesity, cholesterol, heart problems, and many others can be eliminated or avoided with a change in diet. Exercise is also important too. But all of those are very very transparent to fix. "High cholesterol? Eat a handful of pecans a day and cut back on the butter/etc." But who is to say that the clogging of blood veins to other parts of the body isn't causing other trouble? Or that the constant pressure on your system from high blood pressure isn't causing other trouble?
Try eating a really bad diet and noting how you feel, then begin eating really healthy(salads, no meat, fruits and veggies, un-cooked or lightly cooked, no processed food) and see how you feel.
There is always someone out there promoting some diet, that's just what you get for having a free and open society where people can publish anything they want.
There is a lot of evidence for inflammatory foods causing wrinkles, and sunlight causing wrinkles is really becoming much more common knowledge.
In the Journal of the National Cancer Institute, Vol. 95, Issue #12, Miso soup consumption was linked with up to a 50% reduced risk of breast cancer. I doubt it would be that high, but that warrants a look into the enzymes in Miso.
We don't really know what effects preservatives and other chemicals in food have on our bodies.
81mg of a certain chemical can reduce heart attack risk by 1/3.
http://www.scienceblog.com/community/article199
That is a diet change. But to say 81mg(75-100mg recommended, really) chemical that has been studied will reduce heart attack risk but "x" chemical we have not studied has no effect on your body. And yes, there are a lot of preservatives in food. If you eat fast food, candy, sodas, etc.. you will get a lot more of certain chemicals thans 100mg a day. But they are not all bad, but they only have anecdotal evidence that they are safe, as they do not claim to offer a health benefit they do not require anywhere near the same level of testing to be marketed as "safe."
Just my 2c. I'm not a health nut, I have my candy bar on ocassion and fast food when I have to, but I've cut back a lot on that kind of stuff and feel better than ever. I don't suffer from anything and don't plan on it either.
We do know what causes diabetes and we know what cutting back on will help prevent diabetes too.
You may be interested that there is a big trend with changing your diet. More veggies, less meat, less processed, less preservatives. I certainly feel better when I eat salad for a few days a week(salad for lunch and dinner) than I do when I eat a slice or two of pizza. There is actually a treatment for Autism that is a change in diet and increase in nutritional supplements that has been proven to work in a few hundred patients. Not everyone responds. It is a naturally occuring thing, but to give up on it because Med X and Med Y don't work is just ridiculous.
... there are better solutions than drugs.."
In 2002, the Kushi Institute presented the case of 6 people who had been "2 months to live"(and less! and more) cancer patients who had no tumors after switching their diet and sticking to it for a year or more. 15 Physicians who reviewed it unanimously recommended that the Kushi Institute get government funding for a clinical study. (This was paraphrased from the Mag Alternative Medicine).
http://www.autism.com/ari/dan/dan.html
Dan! Is the resource for "Defeat Autism Now!" who resort to other medicines(not everything is natural!) that have helped a lot of children go from Severe Autism to a very mild level of Autism.
Sorry, just wanted to support your "I just believe that
I'm not a neo-hippie, I take my antibiotics when I need them, but I haven't been sick in quite some time now eating healthier and healthier every day(except vacation, where I thrive off of pure alcohol!)
They need a better way. Humiliation just causes anger and hate, not "I don't wanna go through that again." Like getting people used to something by having the do it won't make them think it is really that much worse to go through it again, esp. when broadcasted on the net. Anger and hate just lead to people repeating actions. You have to re-habilitate prisoners, of all kinds. Punishment has worked, how effectively? Seriously. Punishment has caused crime to go down what, over the past 2,000 years? Over the past 3,000 years?
Yes, the population is bigger. But, if everything increases with population, then the bubonic pague must be taking out western europe's population every single day. Lots of things have cures and fixed. It's time to go after those.
I do believe people should be locked away from society, but not as punishment, but to protect society and themselves. Rehabilitate them is the way go.
Someone please get some evidence. If the lawyer is sending you letters, evidence. Right there. If the lawyer is only calling you, record it. Interstate phone calls need only one person of the conversation to know it is being recorded. Ditto in Texas. In-state, you'll actually have to check, but saying "I'm going to record this phone call?" When the lawyer calls is a good way, either they say yes, or they say no and you say "Then I can't talk." Either they'll call again and eventually give up, or they'll send a letter or fax(evidence).
So someone, please get some evidence or I can't really believe anyone without a grain o' salt.
Anyways, my two cents. There is no court action going on right now, there is a severe lack of letters, e-mails, faxes, or anything? Seems odd, but it could just be ignorance of what you can do.
I hope it all works out with katie.com getting to keep her own domain though, looking at her site now I don't see any benefit she could be gaining.
I agree, 4 years to be a code monkey? Come on. With 4 years in school you have a lot more knowledge that you should be able to use and apply other than being a code monkey.
Yeah, but still kickin' it in terms of design and looks. =) Mind you, I've heard nothing but good things in terms of the Creative Zen, but iPod has several very good features:
The USB/Firewire port is also the charger. So yes, a USB 2 or FW connection will actually charge the damn thing while you are messing around with it on the computer. Ultra cool. Something you don't really notice though, but you do tend to notice after several days of use that it is only at 1/2 battery b/c it's been in the computer so much. iTrip goes to extensive lengths to match the look of the iPod(now with iTrip mini).
I've got a mini, because, well, I think anyone who has that much music is just collection music for the sake of collecting, or is just silly. And it is much more portable and enjoyable to carry around(including the armband which is just awesome!).
Hmm, although I do enjoying having my power go out while my internet stays on (cable), my UPS powering my comp and my cable modem, and laughing at my neighbors.
Of course the cable goes down in a storm before my frickin' satellite tv. Damnit.
Going to the cell phone menu and hitting "Send Number" and point it at their phone, or send it to their phone with all your details. I'm sure they will be using bluetooth. Of course there still may be some kind of security code to enter, or a 4 digit one time thing so that no one sniffs your addy, nor has to deal with it on their phone. No one wants a keyboard, but entering numbers into a cell phone these days is becoming more and more outdated(definately necessary as it is today).