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Apple Launches iTunes Affiliate Program

An anonymous user writes, "Apple has launched an affiliate program for their iTunes music store that earns participants 5% commission. Affiliates can link directly to songs, albums, and artists, as well as apply to the Apple Store affiliate program to sell hardware. It costs nothing to join and people that sign up prior to September 15 can win one of five free iPod minis. Apple has also assembled a handy FAQ."

206 comments

  1. So... by odano · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is basically a 5% discount on all iTunes music?

    1. Re:So... by vijayiyer · · Score: 5, Informative

      Note that they don't pay you until you've accumulated $25 in commission, meaning you don't get anything until there are 506 purchases made.

    2. Re:So... by suckmysav · · Score: 5, Informative

      " This is basically a 5% discount on all iTunes music?"

      Well, if you purchased the music for yourself and you bought over a thousand songs each month then I guess it would be, yes.

      FIn most cases though, I expect it would represent a 5% kickback to any site owner who could generate 1000 clickthrus that culminate in a purchase, which is quite a bit different.

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    3. Re:So... by MedHead · · Score: 1
      If you earn more than $25 in a given month, you'll receive a check about 45 days after the end of that month. If your earnings total less than $25, then you will receive a check after the end of the following month in which your total earnings reach $25.

      http://www.apple.com/itunes/affiliates/faq.html

      It does seem a little vague... I can't be sure if it means 25 songs, or $25 in commission.

    4. Re:So... by Neko-kun · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, It means that you, the re-seller, gets a five percent cut out of every song you sell.

      In other words, Apple is allowing webmasters to have links on their websites that when a visitor clicks on it, iTunes will open up to the album page ready for the visitor to buy it.

      Say for example,

      "Hey peeps, I was listening to this one album the other day, and it was really nice. if you want to buy it so you can share my amazement, click here"

      All an affiliate would be doing would be reffering more would-be customers to the iTMS.

    5. Re:So... by photonagon · · Score: 1

      If you earn more than $25 in a given month

      Seems pretty clear to me, earning meaning $25 you earned from 5% of each 99c song, as opposed to selling or referring $25 in sales for Apple.

      Besides, waiting until you earn $1.25 (5% of $25) still seems like too little to cut a check and send it.

    6. Re:So... by MedHead · · Score: 2, Interesting
      2.2. Affiliate agrees not to make any representations, warranties or other statements concerning Apple, Apple's site, any of Apple's products or services, or Apple's site policies, except as expressly authorized by the Engagement.

      http://www.apple.com/itunes/affiliates/terms.html

      Would anyone mind explaining this to me? I'm not a lawyer, so I can't be sure... but from what I can see, doesn't this mean that as an affiliate, we are not allowed to say we like or dislike a song to which is being linked?

    7. Re:So... by aka-ed · · Score: 4, Informative
      No, it means that an affiliate cannot (for instance) make statements that might be construed as Apple policy statements, unless so authorized; the songs sold on Itunes do not belong to Apple (they're licensed), so are not covered by this.

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    8. Re:So... by Joey+Patterson · · Score: 1

      you don't get anything until there are 506 purchases made.

      Well, then, someone should really get on the stick and register themselves as an affiliate for www.slashdot.org. Then they could begin posting iTMS links in their comments and sigs in hopes that people click on them to buy things. A newfangled troll? Perhaps, but a profitable one nonetheless.

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    9. Re:So... by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      has to be 25$ of commission.

      no point in paying 1.25$ size..

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    10. Re:So... by Bullet-Dodger · · Score: 1
      Well, then, someone should really get on the stick and register themselves as an affiliate for www.slashdot.org. Then they could begin posting iTMS links in their comments and sigs in hopes that people click on them to buy things. A newfangled troll? Perhaps, but a profitable one nonetheless.

      Well, not really newfangled; People have been doing the same thing with the Amazon referrer program for ages.

    11. Re:So... by gl4ss · · Score: 1, Insightful

      so what you're saying is that the $ won't accumulate over months, that you have to hit that 25$ monthly payment limit or apple gets to keep the money?

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    12. Re:So... by ColdGrits · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, that is incorrect.

      The $ DO accumulate over the months. Check the FAQ. It was linked from the original article.

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    13. Re:So... by Grant29 · · Score: 1

      Your right. This is great sounding, but I think the payout is way too low. You can't save enough personally to justify the hassle of setting up the program. Also, I don't think you'd be able to make enough pushing it to friends/site visitors. It's just too cheap of a product to begin with.
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    14. Re:So... by AssFace · · Score: 1

      That is how I use Amazon's affiliate system.

      I have sites up which put up Amazon's ads and links to specific items (nobody really buys anything from what I have seen). But if I am going to buy something (I tend to buy most things from Amazon when I am online anyway since they have provided me with the least hassle over the years), I just create a link, click it, buy it (I was going to anyway), and then I get money credited for it as well.

      I would imagine that one of the more obvious places that would be able to make use of the iTunes affiliate system would be AudioScrobbler.

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    15. Re:So... by nacturation · · Score: 1

      It's fairly common, basically you agree not to represent Apple's products as something they're not, nor claim the warranty is something it isn't. On the other hand, the phrase "or other statements" is really all-inclusive. Were Apple so inclined, they could at the very least revoke your affiliate status if you stated that iPod sucks, for example.

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    16. Re:So... by macker123 · · Score: 1

      This affiliate program is perfect for people like me that run web sites for a living. About time the did this.

    17. Re:So... by Arcady13 · · Score: 1

      Vague? Why would $25 mean 25 songs? Stay off the iTunes music store, and try the iClue store.

    18. Re:So... by MedHead · · Score: 1

      Hey, guess what pal. It's not "cool" to be rude. Grow up. Each song on iTunes is $.99. 25 songs, 25 dollars.

    19. Re:So... by Arcady13 · · Score: 1

      Hey guess what. It is talking about $25 in commission, not 25 songs. Hello????

    20. Re:So... by macdaddy · · Score: 1

      I think it's a great idea and not necessarily trollish at all. I certainly wouldn't mind including a link to a song I like. I'd even write up a journal entry with all my favorite songs via iTunes. I won't however condone people posting messages with their adverstisements in the body. Link to a song in the sig? That's fine by me. Link to your page of links to dozens of songs? That's ok. BS a message full of ads? Nope. Not a chance.

    21. Re:So... by macdaddy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The slick thing to do would be to create some sort of automated system where the visitor could provide the artist and title of a song to a form on the affiliate's website. The form would spawn a CGI that would query the ITMS website for the specific song and then provide the affiliate-enabled link to the visitor as output. That way the affiliate wouldn't be limited to just the songs they took the time to link to and wouldn't have to field email from visitors that ask for song links. It would all be automated. That would be really slick.

    22. Re:So... by MedHead · · Score: 1

      There was no indication that it is definitely talking about commission.

    23. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, Adam.

      When do you go to jail?

  2. Recursive marketing sucks. A lot. by 0x0d0a · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I thought I had just finished with everyone under the sun trying to ram gmail tokens down my throat, and now I have to start over with the damn iTunes thing? Argh!

    People are going to be suckers for recursive marketing until the market gets saturated.

  3. Fight the Enemy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seems the folks at DownhillBattle.org could use this to raise revenue and pay the artist 5 cents on each song sold...

    1. Re:Fight the Enemy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it maybe an uphill battle to get Madonna to cash your check for $16.35.

      Well maybe you could just buy non-RIAA music, but if an artist signed a really shitty deal with a non-RIAA label we are going to have to let Darwin kick in at some point aren't we?

    2. Re:Fight the Enemy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think they'd actually do something productive instead of just complain and twist facts?

  4. FAQ? by LihTox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I love Apple, but there are two things that struck me:
    1) "Frequently Asked Questions"? How long has this been around that there are questions asked frequently? :)
    2) In the FAQ, there is the sentence "You can only use approved creative provided by iTunes." When did "creative" become a noun?

    1. Re:FAQ? by MedHead · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I too was confused with the FAQ, but for a different reason: there are no banner measurements given. I don't want to have to sign an agreement that gives me certain responsibilities without knowing all my tools at my disposal beforehand. Does "creative" mean text-based ads similar to Google's? Does "banner" mean 88x31 pixels, or 500x150 pixels? If I'm going to have to follow all sorts of rules just to see what I can promote on my website, forget it. I don't want to take the risk of Apple emailing me about my lack of participation. Maybe I'm being too paranoid?

    2. Re:FAQ? by aka-ed · · Score: 2, Informative
      Have you ever been in an affiliate program? As a general rule you can sign up and never participate, no one cares. Why should they?

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    3. Re:FAQ? by bahwi · · Score: 1

      "2) In the FAQ, there is the sentence "You can only use approved creative provided by iTunes." When did "creative" become a noun?"

      I think when they invented marketing. Seriously, probably when newspaper ads became widespread. It's a pretty old term in usage as a noun, IIRC.

    4. Re:FAQ? by Lars+T. · · Score: 1
      Lessee: n. One who displays productive originality (eg. an advertisement creative); an advertising term referring to graphic design work like logo's and banners.

      IOW: "A creative creates creative creative" is a correct sentence - in the advertisment business at least ;-)

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    5. Re:FAQ? by Sulka · · Score: 1

      "I think when they invented marketing."

      Nope! That's strictly legalese.

      While some marketing people are very creative, most aren't. However, all of them like to think they are. Someone working in marketing doesn't want to go as low as to quantify creative as a noun.

      However, for lawyers creative is just another item they protect. For iTunes Music Store, they can't say it's just songs they're protecting but all the content being sold is more or less creative. Makes a perfect noun!

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    6. Re:FAQ? by Lars+Arvestad · · Score: 1
      "Frequently Asked Questions"? How long has this been around that there are questions asked frequently? :)

      Hey, this is the internet. FAQs have been created without question having been asked at all at least since time() == 0.

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    7. Re:FAQ? by AdamTheBastard · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "logo's and banners." What'll it be michaelswilder.com ? Are you going to put an apostrophe when you pluralise or not?

      I know I wont pay for marketing from someone who can't make up their mind on something as simple as that.

    8. Re:FAQ? by DrSkwid · · Score: 1


      "the creative" is a useful abstraction that has long been used in media circles for the name of the section of the business that is the video / artwork / sculpture / piece of music.

      The people who render these are called "the creatives" not "artistes / musicians / sculptors" or whatever.

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    9. Re:FAQ? by LoudMusic · · Score: 1

      When did "creative" become a noun?

      I get the same responce when I talk about the company I work for. We're an advertising agency, where it's common to refer to the artists as "creatives", and the work they create as "creative". It's kind of like changing the adjective creative work to just the noun creative. Very slang.

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    10. Re:FAQ? by fermion · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Given current practices, "creative" means a web bug linked to 2o7. As much as I like apple, they seem way into the tracking of users as they move around the internet. I would think this would a prime opportunity for them to collect more marketing data.

      Just because you are parniod does not mean people are not actully out to get you.

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    11. Re:FAQ? by mothz · · Score: 1

      someone who can't make up their mind

      Singular or plural? What'll it be, AdamTheBastard? Is Michael Swilder one person, or are they all working together to conspire against proper grammar and subject-pronoun agreement?

    12. Re:FAQ? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      Yeh, me am love it when a grammar bastid is hoisted by his own petard, as it were. Or maybe that should be hoisted by his own retard.

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    13. Re:FAQ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is one way to weed out the UNIX Mac users
      (we don't get that usage) from the creative
      Mac users.

      Oops, I meant: creatives.

    14. Re:FAQ? by AdamTheBastard · · Score: 1

      I still can't see where I went wrong, but that's cos I'm not very good writer. Was it supposed to be 'whom'? At least I was consistant in my mistakes.

      The thing is, I'm not trying to convice you to pay me for a service that requires me to know how to write. Michael, being in marketing, is trying to get you to pay him for a service that requires good writing skills.

  5. Terms of service word count: 22,760 by aka-ed · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think this must be some kind of record. Anybody else willing to read it and tell me what parts might be objectionable?

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    1. Re:Terms of service word count: 22,760 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You read contracts?

    2. Re:Terms of service word count: 22,760 by nmoog · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't know, I only got up to the bit that said "..a legal resident of the United States.."

    3. Re:Terms of service word count: 22,760 by TheProcrastinatorTM · · Score: 1

      Well, more like 2700.. but seriously, that IS the equivalent of a 10 page paper in double spaced paper in 12 point courier (bad flashback to college). Could be worse, I suppose.

    4. Re:Terms of service word count: 22,760 by ThatsNotFunny · · Score: 1

      It's not a record, it's an AAC file wrapped in Apple's DRM. Who the heck uses records anymore?

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    5. Re:Terms of service word count: 22,760 by aka-ed · · Score: 1
      Not this one. That's nothin'

      To sign up, you have to agree to the 22,760-word Linkshare agreement.

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    6. Re:Terms of service word count: 22,760 by germuska · · Score: 1
      Well, right in paragraph 2:
      In addition, you may use any linkshare network only for a business purpose and not for a personal, household or family purpose; the business that you conduct through any linkshare network must be your primary business or an integral part of your primary business; and your use of any linkshare network must be integrally related to such business.
      (except the agreement has it in all caps, and Slashdot won't let me post that...)
      That seems like it would legally block out a lot of us. Odd, though, that Apple's signup form refers to "individuals" as well as "sole proprietorships" in the tax information section of the affiliate signup form. I would think that the only difference between a sole proprietorship and an individual is whether one is acting in a business context or a personal context?
  6. Incentive for smaller labels? by photonagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seems like this might be an additional incentive for smaller labels to join up with iTunes store, or perhaps even independant artists to start doing so.

    I'm not exactly sure how Apple signs labels (or individuals) even after a bit of browsing on their site.

    1. Re:Incentive for smaller labels? by DrSkwid · · Score: 1


      independent

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    2. Re:Incentive for smaller labels? by anonicon · · Score: 1

      iTMS doesn't generally deal with individuals because, well, there are just too many of them. If you're an Indie artist, you can sign up for iTMS via CD Baby (see link here), and if you're an Indie label a la Dischord, you can approach Apple and sign up directly without an intermediary.

      As for browsing for non-RIAA music (if that's your thing), besides checking out the RIAA Radar, you can also start here. If anyone besides the Baby is doing those, replies are helpful.

  7. SSN + No encryption = ??? by muel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Am I too paranoid to feel completely iffy about submitting my social security number over a non-encrypted website? I don't think it's very naive to expect a little lock icon to pop up when I visit Apple's "tell us everything about you, but we'll keep it private, fer sure, promise!!!11" zone.

    1. Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? by MedHead · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh, security? That'll be installed on Tuesday!

    2. Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? by irving47 · · Score: 1

      No problem. We've got the deflector dish. The swiss army knife of starship gadgets. It might be enough to punch through the Reality Distortion Field surrounding this offer!

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    3. Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? by ciroknight · · Score: 1, Funny

      Oh a joke.. my laughter will be installed Tuesday as well.

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    4. Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? by commodoresloat · · Score: 1
      Just use mine. It's 078-05-1120.

      ;^)

    5. Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? by aka-ed · · Score: 2, Funny
      commodoresloat=Mrs. Hilda Schrader Whitcher?

      You owe me money, biatch!

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    6. Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? by mosch · · Score: 4, Insightful

      <form name="form1" action="https://ssl.linksynergy.com/php-bin/reg/s<nobr>r<wbr></wbr></nobr> egister.shtml?mid=13508&no_r=1" method="post">

    7. Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      The form submission is encrypted so no worries.

    8. Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? by psavo · · Score: 1

      The form submission is encrypted so no worries.

      And what happens if someone injects something when you're loading the form itself?

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    9. Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? by jbrw · · Score: 1

      I'd be more worried about the space alien zombies that might come down and eat your brain while you're filling out that form.

      Phew. So many things to worry about. I need to have a rest now.

    10. Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? by Ratso+Baggins · · Score: 1

      Although the form is encrypted on submission it requires the user to blindy trust this will hapen (or as you did look at the code). It is common for websites to encrypt the form itself as well, not because it is that much more secure, but to alleviate the worries expressed. I see it as basic courtesy.

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    11. Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Thank you. I am tired of people like the grandparent who think that the form page has to be downloaded via SSL for submitted information to be secure. SSL takes a fair amount of processing and therefore is a big performance hit for a website. Requiring all forms as well as their submissions to be in SSL is a silly waste of overhead. SSL pages should be very lightweight, image free deals that say "We got your data" or "Here is the secret we need you to have." In certain cases, such as political forums, SSL should be an option for all pages...but what's the point in encrypting the transfer of a blank form? And if you're going to assume that little lock icon in the corner is proof of anything, you're inviting trouble if the form you submit it TO is not encrypted.

      This is why IE pops up all those "navigating to an unencrypted page" messages we instantly turn off...

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    12. Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? by Maserati · · Score: 1

      For a cut, I'll tell you which junior high school he goes to :-)

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  8. Win one of five free iPod minis? by 89cents · · Score: 5, Funny

    Geez with everyone doing it now, I had to check to see if there were referrer links to freeipods.com in the article summary.

    1. Re:Win one of five free iPod minis? by ciroknight · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Yeah, well everyone's not giving away a free iPod 3rd gen when he (me) gets his fourth gen. ;)

      (Yes, I know this post is very badly off topic).

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    2. Re:Win one of five free iPod minis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    3. Re:Win one of five free iPod minis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Asshole.

    4. Re:Win one of five free iPod minis? by Refrag · · Score: 0

      There wasn't one in the article summary but there is one in my signature. ;)

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    5. Re:Win one of five free iPod minis? by elemental23 · · Score: 1

      And if you feel the need to bring attention to your .sig, I will do the same for mine.

      Aren't we bombarded with enough advertising as it is? Why do you feel the need to post more?

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    6. Re:Win one of five free iPod minis? by Refrag · · Score: 1

      You shouldn't mod posts down because of the signature but instead because of its content. You're abusing the moderation system. It's very easy to hide all signatures in your preferences if you don't wish to see them.

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  9. Here comes the spam! by crucini · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Affiliate programs seem to bring out the slimiest in people, whether it's email spam or spammy slashdot comments. Won't it be wonderful to search for some obscure song on google and get a vast wasteland of affiliate link-spam pages all pointing to Apple?

    I thought Apple had more class.

    (Please, Apple fanboys, don't mod this down out of reflexive groupthink. Because that's lame.)

    1. Re:Here comes the spam! by sevensharpnine · · Score: 1

      I agree. But I think the whole point is to allow the underhanded marketing tactics from affiliate sites. Apple basically gets to stay clean by simply managing their site and paying for the occasional ad. The dirty work gets done by the usual search-engine spammers, while Apple doesn't directly do anything bad.

      As far as I'm concerned, Apple is now participating in the useless spamming of the web. Maybe next week they can start selling v1agra?

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    2. Re:Here comes the spam! by Chmarr · · Score: 1

      And... you say all of that, but you have a link to an iPod Pyramid Scheme in your .sig?

    3. Re:Here comes the spam! by quigonn · · Score: 0

      It's not a pyramid scheme, it has the shape of a trapezoid.

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    4. Re:Here comes the spam! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Lyric sites will probably be perceived by Apple (with "help" from the *AAs) as peddling illegal wares (the lyrics are copyrighted - *AA: buy the sheet music) and will probably be rejected.

      To me, this stance is more mind boggling than any others that the *AAs hold.

    5. Re:Here comes the spam! by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      Oh, god, DRMed Viagra. No, sir, I refuse to use anything but Ogg Viagra. =)

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    6. Re:Here comes the spam! by ciroknight · · Score: 0

      hey, it's a signature.. and if it works, then two people get a new ipod and the world's all good. don't like it? don't click. I doubt anything in my signature will fuck you up when you go to search google for something. and if it does, then i'll fix it.

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    7. Re:Here comes the spam! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree. I think it's more like a rhombus.

  10. so in other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    it's an iFfiliate program.

    *runs for cover*

    1. Re:so in other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      it's better than an iFellate program.

  11. Canada still too cold for AAC quality music by Matt+Clare · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple also annouced that Canada is too cold for iTunes quality soundwaves to work and plans to never let the canucks into the iTunes store.

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    1. Re:Canada still too cold for AAC quality music by Wilkshake · · Score: 1
      And if it's too cold in Canada, then it's definately too hot for them to release the iTunes store here in Australia as well.

      Damn Apple temperature Nazi corporation types.
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    2. Re:Canada still too cold for AAC quality music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Why would anyone in canada be stupid enough to use the iTunes store, when its legal to download?

      We already pay music industry tax, no point paying twice.

  12. Must be done in IE by enjoilax · · Score: 4, Informative

    Using FF .9.3 and will not register, did it with IE, sorry all.

    1. Re:Must be done in IE by MedHead · · Score: 1

      It's still not secure in Internet Explorer.

    2. Re:Must be done in IE by psergiu · · Score: 1

      Also it does not work with Mozilla 1.7.2 :(

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    3. Re:Must be done in IE by phildog · · Score: 1

      damn it this pisses me off! I'm sure this process works in Safari, since it *is* Apple and they must test this with at least their own browser, right?

      Now let's take the Windows users who are the most likely to switch to Apple in the next 5 yrs. I'd guess a sizable percentage of them are using Firefox today.

      So short-sighted and stupid when companies ignore web standards without good cause and alienate potential customers.

      OK, rant over, and yes, I did fire up IE and submit the damn application anyway!

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  13. FAQ #402 by LuxFX · · Score: 5, Funny

    Q: Is it really possiblr to win an iPod mini?
    A: You're not very good at math, are you?

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    1. Re:FAQ #402 by Lars+T. · · Score: 3, Funny
      1: If you join, there is a non-zero chance that you do.
      2: If you don't join, there is zero chance that you do.
      3. If you convince others not to join, your chance gets bigger.

      See, math is easy.

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    2. Re:FAQ #402 by Bullet-Dodger · · Score: 5, Funny
      Q: Is it really possiblr to win an iPod mini?
      A: You're not very good at math, are you?

      Or spelling, it would appear. :-)

  14. I love signing checks for 82 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sell 16,000 songs per month and finance your new BMW!

    1. Re:I love signing checks for 82 by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Incidentally, 16,000 songs or 1600 albums would not be that hard to move if you were, say, a popular artist with a link on your website. For some people with really shitty RIAA deals (making $.20 per song as it is), this $.05 per song could spell a 25% increase in profits. So the artists will push people to buy through iTunes...meaning more iTunes music sold, more iPods sold, more money for artists, and more proof to the RIAA that digital delivery can work, damnit.

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    2. Re:I love signing checks for 82 by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      Also more proof that the RIAA companies are redundant and obsolete. =)

      All it's going to take is one "superstar*" or small group of "superstars*" to make a deal directly with Apple instead of going through the RIAA. Once this happens, the damn will burst, and the RIAA companies will be shit-outta-luck.

      *whatever that means, but I think of it in terms of having the power to dictate certain terms, i.e., "You can have the rights to distribute the CD, but I'm retaining rights to distribute the music online. Don't like it? I'll just go elsewhere."

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  15. Re:subject by theKinkyRabbit · · Score: 5, Informative

    You put a banner on your site, pointing to the iTMS. When someone clicks it and then buys something within the next 24 hours, you get a percentage of the transaction.
    This has been working for a long time with the Apple Store, the fact that it now works with the iTMS too is the news bit.

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  16. Looking forward to it by tobes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There seem to be a lot of complaints about this so far, but I for one am really looking forward to it. I've been linking to the itms extensively for about a year now (just cause it's very useful for my users). It's going to be great to start getting some revenue!

    Personally, I think the iTunes Music Store is a great platform for finding new music. Anyone can make links to it and they've got tons of sample streams. Hopefully this move indicates that Apple wants third parties to provide the navigation innovation while they continue to act as a platform and catalog.

    1. Re:Looking forward to it by tarth · · Score: 1

      Musicmobs is an awesome website and I'm glad Apple is going to start giving you a cut. Just today, my friend got a $20 gift certificate from his office and he asked me how he should spend it. I of course pointed him to the Musicmobs Recommends feature.

    2. Re:Looking forward to it by tobes · · Score: 1

      Awesome. You should also have him check out the new recommendations page (as of about an hour ago). I've found it to be EVEN more useful than the Musicmobs Suggests.

    3. Re:Looking forward to it by ratlater · · Score: 1

      Musicmobs is a great site. Hopefully the affiliate money will fund the hosting fees and give you a bit of cash for all your work.

      -matt

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    4. Re:Looking forward to it by savetz · · Score: 2, Informative

      Blatant self-promotion: If you like MusicMobs, you may also like TunesTracker. Tell it your favorite artists, and it will send you an e-mail alert whenever the iTunes Music Store has new songs by that artist.

      And yeah, I'll be using the iTMS affiliate program for TunesTracker.

    5. Re:Looking forward to it by aka-ed · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      especially since I changed my .sig to "theme" properly with this thread.

      Before that, it was "Mods: why waste points modding down from zero? And please look up the definition of 'troll'"

      Thank you for noticing.

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    6. Re:Looking forward to it by aka-ed · · Score: 1

      Maybe they need to look up 'redundant,' as well...

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    7. Re:Looking forward to it by hondo77 · · Score: 1

      There seem to be a lot of complaints about this so far, but I for one am really looking forward to it. I've been linking to the itms extensively for about a year now (just cause it's very useful for my users). It's going to be great to start getting some revenue!

      Ditto (except change "a year" to "three months"). If I'm going to have my site linking to iTunes songs and albums anyway, I like the idea of getting (the possibility of being) paid for it.

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  17. I don't quite understand... by huchida · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From the FAQ I couldn't figure out how this works. If a visitor clicks the banner on your site, does that open their copy of iTunes and take them to the store? After all there is no iTunes store site to be directed to...

    If that's the case, this sounds more like a way to get PC users to install iTunes than to actually sell songs. A bit on the sleazy side, isn't it Apple?

    I do see a benefit for independant artists, assuming they can get their music in the iTunes music store in the first place (how does that work, anyway? Is anyone rejected?) Previously the best they could hope for is to direct you to Amazon, or, worse, tell you how to mail-order their music.

    1. Re:I don't quite understand... by Sentry21 · · Score: 1

      As I understand it, Apple has one offer - one contract. If you want to list music, then you sign that contract. Independant labels can sign, and they get the exact same deal, to the letter, that BMG, Sony, and Virgin have. If you don't want to sign that contact, no dice. Other than that, I don't think there are any impractical limitations to who can apply. They probably have limitations, like nothing that expouses hate or racism, but it's hard to say.

      --Dan

    2. Re:I don't quite understand... by leperkuhn · · Score: 1

      ummmm.... sleazy? it's not like it's exploiting a bug in explorer to install through a backdoor or something. when you click the "MUSIC STORE" link, it would launch the music store. if you don't have it, install it.

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    3. Re:I don't quite understand... by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      I dunno about that hate or racism thing...This is one of the most hateful and racist bands I know of, and they're on iTunes (they sing in spanish about killing white men, I've been told it's a joke but that doesn't change the content).

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    4. Re:I don't quite understand... by bitrott · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If that's the case, this sounds more like a way to get PC users to install iTunes than to actually sell songs. A bit on the sleazy side, isn't it Apple?


      How is that sleazy? The end user was clicking to buy the song and would have to use the client necessary to play that song. It's not exactly spyware here folks. It's money in exchange for goods and services. To take advantage of that service, you have to download a really excellent media player.

    5. Re:I don't quite understand... by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      The song you linked to "Pito Wilson" is obviously a reference to Former California Governor Pete Wilson, famed for his divisive race politics.

      I couldn't tell much from the sample, however. It's a lousy sample because the intro to the song contains some material from TV or radio, and you don't actually hear any music until the last few seconds. And judging by the other samples, it's just bad punk in Español. They have a sort of Mentors/Rob Zombie sound (well admittedly, Zombie goes for that glossy polished studio sound, these guys don't).

      If you want to hear some more offensive stuff in Español, check out the fairly new genre known as Narcorridos. It's sort of like rap lyrics set to Mexican Polka. It's very popular among the young Nacos and the Salvatorre Truche crowd, I'm told.

      How much money am I missing out by not posting stuff with affiliate links? Damn! =)

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    6. Re:I don't quite understand... by huchida · · Score: 1

      I've been told it's a joke but that doesn't change the content).

      No, that COMPLETELY changes the content. I'm well aware of Brujeria. They're actually well educated and their music is social commentary. Do you also think Public Enemy is hateful and racist?

    7. Re:I don't quite understand... by gordgekko · · Score: 1

      > Do you also think Public Enemy is hateful and racist?

      Ummm, yes. Let's see, one of their band members is a vehement anti-Semite (Professor Griff), they as a group celebrate the Nation of Islam which is run by a racist and their lyrics advocate against whites and blacks engaging in relationships, sex and procreation. Yup, no hate or racism there.

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    8. Re:I don't quite understand... by Chuckstar · · Score: 1

      You should have signed up as an affiliate and posted the affiliate link. :)

    9. Re:I don't quite understand... by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Do you also think Public Enemy is hateful and racist?

      Absolutely. The whole point of PE was inverse racism and hatred of the racial status quo. Just because you agree with a form of racism or hatred doesn't mean it isn't racial or hateful...saying "the black man must stand strong and proud against his detractors" is invoking the concept of race as strongly as anything that's come out of David Duke's mouth. How about Flava's lyric "Ask James Cagney, he beat up on a man when he found he was a Fagney, that's my boy?"

      I love PE. I love that they have the balls to be hypocrites when they have to -- the song continues, "they don't play games, they're the real McCoy." Now, I'm a fucking white kid from the suburbs, I have hardly anything in common with the target audience of these songs. But I respect what PE represents: musicians fighting for what they believe in from within a system that considered them a novelty. So I bought the record, with hundred of thousands of other white folks, the whole time realizing it wasn't "for" us. I buy a lot of Kool Keith's stuff too, which I'm sure pisses him off.

      My point was, if you have a theoretical service that was "against hate and racism," you sure as shit can't contain stuff like Brujeria or PE or Ted Nugent. Or Neil Young, he once had some idiotic line about not wanting homosexuals to touch his groceries. This is as retarded as those European censorship laws banning Naziism...Naziism is a bad thing, but banning it is worse.

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  18. Beginning of a Revolution? by Fraser+Cain · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder if this is the beginning of the end for the traditional music companies. From what I understand, the key benefit they bring to the music business is marketing. They use their marketing and distribution channels to make a band popular or not.

    If iTunes is starting to offer an affiliate program, then it will encourage websites to develop song lists and various tools that analyze your current listening tastes and then recommend songs that you can buy from iTunes. Obviously there'll be a flurry of crap and SPAM, but eventually some pretty cool services are going to emerge.

    Services which can avoid the traditional music labels entirely. Artists can produce a song, a vast network of freelance marketers can promote it (instead of 5 big media conglomerates), and music buyers can pay for it.

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    1. Re:Beginning of a Revolution? by tobes · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm already doing pretty much this exact thing on Musicmobs.

    2. Re:Beginning of a Revolution? by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Insightful

      revolution???
      wtf? and those 'tools' aren't going to be a new thing.

      what you will see however for certain is google-spam. because it's not 'really' spam to have spam google. it just needs ten people to do linkfarms of all pop songs going between them or so and you'll be completely fucked for finding a site with real content about these songs.

      apple would probably be able to weed out spyware 'recommenders' and nasty stuff like that but they can't really weed out those zombie websites with generated content that's just links to other sites of theirs with generated content(and adverts)..

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    3. Re:Beginning of a Revolution? by smclean · · Score: 2, Informative
      See also:

      AudioScrobbler

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    4. Re:Beginning of a Revolution? by cowscows · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't think the best part about all this will be big sites dedicated to providing links to lots of music. Sites like that already exist, and the good ones have made names for themselves.

      What I find more interesting about this is that it can provide an easy way for people to provide useful music links on their personal websites. For example, I read a lot of different blogs every day, some written by people I know, some written by people I've never met. But most of those people think and write intelligently enough that I feel their opinions are worthwhile. And so if they recommend some music, I might just go check it out, because it might be something cool, something besides the normal radio play, and because doing it through itunes will be very easy.

      I'll get a nice quick preview of the particular song, it'll be easy to find other songs by the artist if I like it, and if I choose to buy it, I can get it right then and there, and toss a little money back to the blog author as thanks.

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    5. Re:Beginning of a Revolution? by Chyeld · · Score: 1

      I doubt it. All Apple is doing is mimicing what Amazon did to the book publishing industry when they first came out. And publishers still exist. So do brick and mortar stores.

  19. Re:Recursive marketing sucks. A lot. by typhoonius · · Score: 5, Funny

    So I guess I can't interest you in a free iPod...?

  20. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    To the moderator who rated this offtopic: did you even understand what the comment was about? Have you forgotten about the amazon spammer already? Sheesh!

  21. Also positive possibilities by spectrokid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I guess it wouldn't be too hard for OS projects to use this as a source of revenue. By your music through Mozilla and support your favourite browser while you are at it!

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  22. Re:Recursive marketing sucks. A lot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Speaking of marketing, this whole post seems less like news and more like an advertising press release for Apple. I guess that is ok, but who really cares about this product?

    I'm always seeing "news" postings on here about itunes and ipod blah, blah, blah... I guess this site has to make money somehow.

  23. Slashdot by mosb1000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Slashdot should apply, they could make a bundle off of the commissions with all the iTunes related articles they post. All they'd have to do is find a covert way to post links so that people wouldn't realize that it's a money making proposition for them ;)

    1. Re:Slashdot by Saluton_Mondo · · Score: 1


      I (for one) think that's a pretty good idea...

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    2. Re:Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, right. Like anyone in Slashdot actually RTFA.

  24. Re:Recursive marketing sucks. A lot. by Hi_2k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Recursive marketing is a breath of fresh air compared to the old style. I flip through the channels on my TV and see ads that I classify into three categories: Useless, stupid, and funny. Useless is things like Tampons, or Dishwashing detergent, neither of which I would buy even with their assurances of "Grease fighting crystals". Stupid is any sort of medication, which should be pitched and perscribed only by a liscenced doctor with your best interests at heart. Funny ads are almost exculsivley a fairly standard joke with a single logo or name tacked on.

    Even worse are things like "Targeted" advertisements on the internet. Google's getting better, but internet ads still fall into the basic categories.

    None of these catergories comes close to informing me or making good use of my time. My friends, on the other hand, have a pretty good idea of what I like and have a pretty vested interest in giving me honest opinions. Music is meant to be a question of "Hey, Bob, come listen to this song, it's got a really catchy tune.", not of "LOOKIT THIS GIRLS BOOBS! AND SHE SINGS!". It will happen, and this is it.

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  25. It's like the old joke about lotteries... by rlowe69 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... they're just a tax on people who are bad at math.

    The odds are still terrible you'll win an iPod Mini, but it looks like the only thing signing up for this will cost you is your time.

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    1. Re:It's like the old joke about lotteries... by l4m3z0r · · Score: 1
      It's like the old joke about lotteries they're just a tax on people who are bad at math.

      A statistician once told me, "If you have a chance of winning a astronomical amount of money no matter how small that chance may be and all it costs you is a trivial amount of money, one dollar in most cases, you have no reason not to take it and every reason to take it." What is a dollar a week even over a huge period of time that still doesnt amount to very much at all. Even a dollar a day I would consider trivial. Hell a dollar barely gets me a coke.

  26. But Context is everything... by ImaLamer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Imagine that I run a site which talks about music in general or just hip-hop, jazz or whatever. Those kinds of people can slip little ads into their site which make sense. It's a lot easier than just telling people to venture to their local [INSERT ANTIQUE FORMAT] store and grabbing one off the shelf.

    I, for example, have a political website. Right now there are lots of good political books that relate exactly to the content of my site. It makes sense to have a "click here to buy this" after book quotes. What doesn't make sense is putting them on every page even where they don't belong. (Not that I take advantage of this because I can't find a good affiliate program that does this, amazon IIRC doesn't offer this anymore).

    Sure, you'll get google-bombed pages which have nothing but "buy this song" links but out there someone can turn his or her hobbie into a cash cow. It may not be much money - but to the site's readers it means the site may be up next year come domain/hosting renewal time.

    Although, can you imagine the possibility with iTunes affiliate programs? Music has a much broader appeal. I can put my favorite song's name and artist name in my Slashdot sig, just to get people turned on to their music. It would be annoying for everyone to link to Britney Spears or some other pop-star, but obscure music could be marketed for almost nothing.

    The cool thing is that you can help support your favorite artist and get a kickback while doing it. The reason that Britney and company are so popular is because people vote with their dollars. If there is suddenly a huge surge in Jaco Pastorius songs sold on iTunes maybe radio stations will get a clue and stop following the RIAA's lead.

    btw... get a freeipod already! ;-) he he he.... couldn't resist.

    1. Re:But Context is everything... by g3000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Talk about context, if you're a band and you push people to iTunes to buy your album*, I suppose you benefit from your album selling, but you are also an affiliate! Fairly obvious use, but still interesting.

      *As The Cure does (and they push not just to iTunes, but other services).

    2. Re:But Context is everything... by Nalgas+D.+Lemur · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What this really makes me think of is LiveJournal and other blogs. Lots of people seem to like sticking in their mood and whatever music they're listening to at the top of every blog entry. Now imagine them making their "Current Song:" line in every entry an iTMS link to the song. Any money they make off it is theirs to keep on a free blog site, since they don't have to pay for hosting, and people can earn money just by keeping a journal of the inane details of their everyday life, as long as someone actually reads it. People could even make money off each other, buying songs through each other's referrals and getting the money kicked back to their friend.

  27. My Very own IPOD compatable Music Store. by tonywestonuk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Link directly from your website to any song, album or artist on iTunes. iTunes offers the largest and most diverse legal music download catalogue -- over 1 million tracks from all five major labels and over 600 leading independents. So... Lets say I copied all the available tunes titles from the itunes store, and launched a kickass amazing sites that was more friendly than iTunes , easier to navigate through. (If this is indeed possible, is not the issue here). So, My site becomes a instant Google like hit, Consumers are happy (iPod compatable song downloads), I'm getting 5% of each tune that is sold... (5% of millions, is, well Loadsass!), so I'm happy also. So, what would be the difference (not technically, but Visibly to the consumer) between this setup, and Apple [doing what everyone's screaming at them to do, but they won't] licensing the AAC technology to a third party to allow them to set up their own store?.....

    in the latter case, To get the protected AAC files to your iPod, you still need iTunes (to handle the drm keys), So Apples presence will still be there.
    How much differences will there realy be?

    1. Re:My Very own IPOD compatable Music Store. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Lets say I copied all the available tunes titles from the itunes store"

      But why copy, when there's already phptunes?

    2. Re:My Very own IPOD compatable Music Store. by tonywestonuk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, why not!.... It could be possible to dynamically update your website using phptunes, so (in theory) your online music site will not need any maintenance!

    3. Re:My Very own IPOD compatable Music Store. by Gentlewhisper · · Score: 0

      "..licensing the AAC technology to a third party to allow them to set up their own store.."

      I thought Apple licensed the AAC technology from some consortium of companies?

      http://www.aac-audio.com/

    4. Re:My Very own IPOD compatable Music Store. by finkployd · · Score: 1

      AAC is actually an open standard (not sure how open, but open)

      The DRM that iTMS uses with AAC is exclusively Apple's.

      Finkployd

    5. Re:My Very own IPOD compatable Music Store. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (If this is indeed possible, is not the issue here)

      I think this is an important issue - no one will set up an ITMS affiliate that will be that popular.

      For selling music to iPod owners, Apple has such a massive incumbant advantage (think integration with iTunes), that as long as the ITMS is not bypassed completely Apple will remain in control.

      The affiliate program is just a little gravy.

    6. Re:My Very own IPOD compatable Music Store. by SnowDog74 · · Score: 1
      What you seem to be arguing is this:

      If Apple will hire me on as a telemarketer, why won't they give me (or anyone else) the keys to the warehouse so I can go in at night and take whatever I want?

      Do you see the fundamental flaw in that line of reasoning? Furthermore, there's an entirely different scope and purpose behind recruiting sales agents vs. franchisees or resellers.

      The entire goal of internet music distribution, if viewed from efficient-markets theory as a weapon against RIAA's 50-year old distribution monopoly, was to eliminate unnecessary links in the chain.

      When you have a presence on the internet, you don't need a zillion retailers, rack jobbers, one-stops, sub-distributors, distributors... you just need promoters to get the word out. Every additional link in the chain means additional costs that get passed, inevitably, to the consumer.

      That would especially be the case with iTunes because of their miniscule margins. Apple makes very little money off iTunes songs... it is, in fact, by Steve Jobs' own admission, a loss leader so they can sell iPods that have enormous profit margins.

      Apple is recruiting independent contractors as sales agents. That's it. They're not licensing the DRM because they shouldn't have to. It's theirs.

      As someone else astutely pointed out, Apple's particular incarnation of AAC with DRM is proprietary. AAC itself, however, is a technology jointly developed by the Motion Picture Experts Group, Dolby Labs, and Fraunhofer... and anyone can license it.

      So, in conclusion, I think what Apple is doing is both brilliant and very threatening to the status quo. It's giving iTunes more exposure, putting more linkages across the internet to get people quickly to the one place that has the largest legally-downloadable repertoire, and costing Apple and consumers nothing extra for an assload of convenience with which RIAA cannot strategically compete.

      In addition, Apple, which is in the business of high-quality products, doesn't have to deal with the nightmare of ensuring that a zillion stores and inventories of resellers/franchisees are compliant with their quality control standards.

      The added weight of supporting resellers and franchises is not in anyone's best interest, even the customer's, especially because, unlike, say, hamburgers, there's no logistics issues that require retail presence in multiple locations.

      Of course, the day that we can place internet orders for hamburgers and materialize them with a PnP Star Trek-ish matter replicator, that will be the end of franchises, resellers and retailers entirely.

  28. Step 2 discovered! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    1. Join iTMS Affiliate Program.
    2. Set up site with phptunes
    3. PROFIT!!!11

    1. Re:Step 2 discovered! by klang · · Score: 1

      that is:

      3. 5% PROFIT :-)

  29. Re:*WARNING* not a secure form! by Accipiter · · Score: 4, Informative

    The form action itself is on an https connection. It's encrypted. Stop worrying.

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  30. Re:*WARNING* not a secure form! by incog8723 · · Score: 2, Informative

    they expect people to enter their social security number....

    Don't enter it. If the script demands it, put in all zeroes. If it still rejects it, put in all nines. If it still then rejects it, browse to epitonic.com, emusic.com, or mp3.com, or many other thousands of free mp3 music collections. Browse by area even. I live in Nashville. Go to a fucking live show, for godssakes. There are literally thousands of them here. I would bet there are at least two or three in your locale.

    The point is, your Social Security Number is YOUR PRIVATE information. You don't have to give it to ANYONE, *unless* you are dealing with social security benefits. Goodbye.

  31. Re:*WARNING* not a secure form! by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

    The sad thing is that:

    (a) An SSN is only supposed to be used for identification, not authorization. Unfortunately, it's used for authorization all over the place (go to a bank, give 'em your SSN and you can withdraw money). This means that we can't use it for identification without severely impacting the users and providers on systems that use the SSN for authentication.

    (b) SSNs as an identity scheme disallows the use of pseudonyms. I can't just give Apple an identifier to deal with me -- I have to give them an identifier that links my identity with my real name, credit history, and all that. There is absolutely no reason Apple needs any of that, and no reason whatsoever that I should give that to them.

  32. How to *really* win an iPod Mini by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The odds are still terrible you'll win an iPod Mini, but it looks like the only thing signing up for this will cost you is your time.

    Yup. So it consumes some chunk of your time for an incredibly small chance to win an iPod Mini.

    You really want an iPod Mini, with a 100% chance to win (and help out the other folks in the Open Source world)?

    Do a GNOME Bug Bounty, and just *buy* an iPod Mini.

    Apple wins, you win, the Open Source world wins, and the musicians win.

  33. Re:*WARNING* not a secure form! by marauder404 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Don't enter it. ... If it still then rejects it, browse to epitonic.com, emusic.com, or mp3.com, or many other thousands of free mp3 music collections ... Go to a fucking live show, for godssakes ... The point is, your Social Security Number is YOUR PRIVATE information. You don't have to give it to ANYONE, *unless* you are dealing with social security benefits. Goodbye.
    Apple doesn't use the SSN. It's submitted to LinkShare, who holds onto it. They want it so that when they pay you a commission, the information about payments made to you or your company are properly submitted to the IRS. This has absolutely nothing to do with buying music. If you want to be paid as an affiliate, they need to report your earnings to the IRS. As you probably know, anything you submit to the IRS is tagged with your name and SSN.
  34. Re:Recursive marketing sucks. A lot. by Luigi30 · · Score: 1

    No, but my friend in Nigeria has $50, 00.0,00 he is going to send me.

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  35. Re:*WARNING* not a secure form! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    While the form itself is not secure, the SUBMISSION of the form is... when you hit the submit button, your data gets sent to https://ssl.linksynergy.com/php-bin/blahblah... the submission is the important part!

  36. Apple iTunes PUBLISHING Kits? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone see Apple iTunes Publishing Kits?

    I was told it would be a software kit, like garage band, that would allow you to publish your own songs on iTunes... skipping the middle men - the recording labels, and allowing iTunes to sell your music without you having to chase down a recording contract with a 'big label' record company.

    Anyone here or see anything more about the iTunes Publishing kit?

    It would be great opportunity to let slashdotters display their musical talents!

  37. Bloggers by xombo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This will be great for bloggers, I'm already scoring a few bucks a month from Amazon for this sort of thing, but a live list of what I'm listening to could be absolutely devine for affiliate commissions.

    1. Re:Bloggers by iphayd · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately not, as you must get 1000 unique hits per month.

    2. Re:Bloggers by xombo · · Score: 1

      I get that many every three days, so its a non-issue.

  38. Affiliate vs. Artist Share by patricksevenlee · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Wow, 5%? Artists get 10-14%.

    1. Re:Affiliate vs. Artist Share by pknoll · · Score: 1
      Wow, 5%? Artists get 10-14%.

      Well, the artist did write or perform the song, after all. All YOU have to do is muster up an A HREF.

    2. Re:Affiliate vs. Artist Share by dasmegabyte · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I guess part of the idea here is that the artist can now get 15-19% (I heard more like a quarter per song, btw...I don't trust downhillbattle's numbers) by pushing people to iTunes through their websites.

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  39. Howto Promote and Affiliate Program? by artlu · · Score: 1

    I started an affiliate program on my site about a month ago. Now, i have 1000 users and out of those 1000 i only have 2 people giving me referral sign ups. I pay $0.50/signup so i do not think the monetary cost/signup is to low.

    What are some suggestions to get my site more affiliates?
    Thanks,
    Aj

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    1. Re:Howto Promote and Affiliate Program? by MikeXpop · · Score: 1
      What are some suggestions to get my site [gshares.net] more affiliates?
      Post on slashdot?
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  40. Already been linking to songs on my site ... by adzoox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is really great. I have been linking to songs as part of all my stories on my website - since I started it in January. My site stats show that 3 out of every 10 visitors are at least clicking on the iTunes Music Store Link. I'll now be able to see how many people are actually buying songs. I've had a few reader emails telling me that they have.

    [Note that one thing the parent is not mentioning ... not everyone that "signs up" is going to be able to participate - there is a case by case approval process]

    I realize that 5% isn't much, but it's actually a huge percentage considering what Apple makes. [I take it that their estimated 3 profit per song has gone up]

    This could be a great way for websites such as mine - who are also Apple oriented to get a tiny bit of operation revenue.

    I hate banner ads - so it 's neat that I can now have a story element as part of my revenue.

    Some examples:

    Is It A Sin To Buy A Mac Devil Inside ~ INXS

    How To Avoid An Auction Scam Without Really Trying eBay ~ Weird Al Yankovic

    What Kon Man!Confunkshunizeya ~ Con Funk Shun

    I really appreciate that Apple has now made me a part of the not only the downloading process but the true sharing process. Because sharing does involve some form of compensation or benefit. :)

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    1. Re:Already been linking to songs on my site ... by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Shit, this is brilliant. Do you remember, back in the day, when Penny Arcade would have an MP3 link at the bottom of every news post? Tycho could bring it back...as a link to iTunes. Shit, I put a "soundtrack" entry at the top of every journal entry, maybe I could make my own links, get my 5 or 6 viewers to fund my website...

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  41. NO SSL by dr1zzt · · Score: 0, Redundant

    They Ask for you SSN or your tax ID number, plus your name, address, phone number, and first born, yet it is an open webpage. No SSL, nada. So I am going to be filling out a form with no encryption and no protection for all the important data that an Identity Thief needs. That is just ridiculous and stupid on their part and on anyone that signs up, especially on a wireless connection. I did fill the form out with false data and it then redirects you to another site outside of apple.com https://ssl.linksynergy.com/php-bin/reg/sregister. shtml?mid=13508&no_r=1
    that is protected, but it is too late, my data was submitted from an unsecure page. And now Joe Bob ID thief has become me.

    1. Re:NO SSL by finkployd · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's not how it works my friend.
      Your data was secure, let me explain.

      Your browser downloaded the website with the form on it over a clear channel, and displayed it in your browser. So far no problem.

      Then you entered your personal data into the form on the website, which so far only exists in your computer's memory, none of that data was ever sent over the network until you pressed submit.

      Once you pressed submit, your browser opened a secure connection to the url you posted and sent the data from the form to it. Never in this transaction was your data sent over the network in the clear.

      Granted this is still a confusing move on Apple's part. The convention is usually to encrypt both the url with the form AND the url it is being submitted to. The first step is totally unnecessary from a security perspective, but it reassures people who think it is only safe to enter data if they see "https" on the form url.

    2. Re:NO SSL by quacking+duck · · Score: 1

      It's convention to secure the form itself because unless you look at the HTML code and look at the form's action, you don't *know* that the form will be sent to a secured server.

      This of course assumes that the submit button is actually a button; if it's an image then the URL with https *might* display in the status bar, but still, how many people know an https connection means it's secure? They look for a lock icon instead.

  42. win-win situation by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Playlists are valuable entities in themselves. Its like getting the expertise of a DJ or concert arranger who might be familar with good music you havent heard of, and knowledge of how to sequence it. So people who compose interesting playlist will now get commission, along with musicians, and of course, Apple.

  43. iTunes Idea I'd rather see by NYTrojan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here's what I'd really like to see out of iTunes. How about an internet radio client. It would be a small program you install... you could tune in to several different stations (maybe some indie stuff too, to give individuals who let itunes sell their music some play). On the face of this program would be a 'buy this song now' button. Ever hear something you like but don't know who's singing it or forget later? Not a problem now. You can purchase it instantly.

    Think about it, you could finally have individuals getting play and selling their music without the big record lables. iTunes is the one system that is already big enough to pull this off I think.

    1. Re:iTunes Idea I'd rather see by beattie · · Score: 1

      Uhh, there already is an internet radio thing in iTunes.

    2. Re:iTunes Idea I'd rather see by aka-ed · · Score: 1
      Uhh, his point was the consumerist convenience of a "buy this song now" button.

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    3. Re:iTunes Idea I'd rather see by mtalbot · · Score: 1

      live365.com has a streaming radio client, Radio365, that has a "buy now" button that links to the iTunes Music Strore.

  44. About time something like this comes along by Sebby · · Score: 1
    I've been saying for a while that the music industry needs to get with it and start doing this kind of affiliate thing, much like domain names, where everyone and their grandma sells the same things all over the place.

    The added bonus with songs is that you can sell it more than once! How the fools at the RIAA failed to still realize this is a testament to their incompetence.

    Is Apple the first to do this, or has anyone else (the 'new' Napster?) done it too?

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  45. Re:*WARNING* not a secure form! by 94229a · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If the SSN is anything like a SIN, then I think you do need to provide it.

    I have to give my SIN out for anything that pays me money. My employer gives me paychecks, the bank pays me interest and the affiliate program gives me commission cheques. That institution is responsible for telling Revenue Canada I've made money -- and Revenue Canada doesn't want my name, it needs my SIN as well.

    So the institution is required by law to have my SIN. There are supposed to be severe restrictions on how they use that number though.

  46. Re:Recursive marketing sucks. A lot. by ThousandStars · · Score: 1
    That's good!

    But the iPod is cursed.

  47. Re:Recursive marketing sucks. A lot. by dasmegabyte · · Score: 3, Funny

    You mean it's compatible with Rhapsody ?!?

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  48. Re:Recursive marketing sucks. A lot. by hunterx11 · · Score: 1

    What if aforementioned grease fighting crystals are extremely disrespectful to dirt?

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  49. How about an independent section to iTMS? by NanoProf · · Score: 1

    Why not take this a step farther and create a distinct section of iTunes music Store where people can post music for sale? There may be issues with posting of offensive material, but overall it would be cool.

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  50. What I do by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 2, Funny

    What I like to do is secure the page with the form on it, and then send the important data over an insecure channel.

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  51. Re:*WARNING* not a secure form! by binarytoaster · · Score: 1

    An SSN is only supposed to be used for identification

    Really? Weird! I wonder why this card here says "NOT TO BE USED FOR IDENTIFICATION PURPOSES", then?

  52. Re:*WARNING* not a secure form! by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

    By "identification", they mean "authentication" (actually, I'm an idiot and wrote "authorization", so I'm not much better). They aren't using the terms in the way that a security person would.

    When people want to "see a form of ID", they want to see an authorization that you are who you say you are, not just you saying "I'm John Smith", which is a form of ID.

  53. Re:Recursive marketing sucks. A lot. by sg3000 · · Score: 1

    But the iPod comes with a free Frogurt.

    The Frogurt is also cursed.

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  54. Not for individuals in the UK by carou · · Score: 2, Informative
    It would have been nice for Apple to make this clearer, but - at least as far as UK residents are concerned - individuals are not allowed to join this scheme, because of LinkShare Terms and Conditions: (their capitals, not mine)

    Member Qualifications

    In order to join or use any Network as a Network Affiliate, you must be a corporation, limited partnership, limited liability company or other form of business organization that has an independent legal existence or, solely in the case of any Network other than the UK Network, an individual who is at least of the age required in order to be competent to enter into contracts under the laws of the jurisdiction in which you reside (and, in any event, at least eighteen years old). INDIVIDUALS MAY NOT JOIN OR USE THE UK NETWORK.

    IN ADDITION, YOU MAY USE ANY LINKSHARE NETWORK ONLY FOR A BUSINESS PURPOSE AND NOT FOR Any PERSONAL, HOUSEHHOLD OR FAMILY PURPOSE; THE BUSINESS THAT YOU CONDUCT THROUGH ANY LINKSHARE NETWORK MUST BE YOUR PRIMARY BUSINESS OR AN INTEGRAL PART OF YOUR PRIMARY BUSINESS; AND YOUR USE OF ANY LINKSHARE NETWORK MUST BE INTEGRALLY RELATED TO SUCH BUSINESS.


    So no "5% off iTunes" purchases for me...
  55. Re:Recursive marketing sucks. A lot. by MayorDefacto · · Score: 1
    You get your choice of toppings

    That's good

    The toppings contain potassium benzoate... That's bad

  56. Chance to win a free Ipod by 2forshow · · Score: 0, Troll

    Why take the chance at getting a free Ipod, when you can pretty much garantee yourself a free Ipod by going to: http://www.freeiPods.com/default.aspx?referer=8533 971

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  57. FYI by c0bw3b · · Score: 1

    the Xjournal LJ client has been able to do this since shortly after iTunes added the little arrow links to the iTMS

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  58. Referrer program on hardware and software? by macdaddy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How about Apple setting up a referral program from their hardware and software? It could be like a customer loyalty referral program on complete systems like what your Dodge dealer might do for people that refer new customers to the dealership (mine kicks back $50/referral). Apple could send me $50 or 5% of the purchase price of whatever my referral bought. That would be nice. The same goes from lesser hardware. If I refer people to the iPod Mini via my website and they buy one, I'd like a kickback. I think a referral program like this would be a very good thing. I'm all for it.

  59. There's a stinker here... by shatfield · · Score: 1

    If they are giving away 5% of each sale (5 pennies on the dollar, or ~5 cents per song that you sell for them), then they have to be making more than that for each sale, right?

    So basically, Apple (ie. Steve Jobs) lied when he said that Apple doesn't make any money on their music store (I believe he said that they make 1 cent per sale, or some crap like that). That they make all their money from sales of the iPod, and that the iTunes music store was a loss leader to facilitate those sales and to keep Apple's reputation as the "musically enhanced" computer maker.

    Well, I'm not buying it. I think that Apple makes a good deal of money off of the sales of their songs -- maybe 25 cents per song. They give you the ~5 cents for reselling their music, and keep the other 20 to themselves, and give the ~80 cents to the record company so that they can stuff it in their bank accounts.

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  60. Why win one, when you can just get one for free? by pyro+jackelope · · Score: 1

    First of all, this isn't spam, so don't smear this post with hateful messages. Blarg. I personally know 2 people that have gotten Ipods this way, and it ended up costing them nothing. link All ya do is click on that link, sign up, complete an offer, refer 5 friends, have them do the same (offer wise) and you get a free ipod. Here's how to get it for free. Complete the Ancestry.com offer. Its free for 14 days, and doesn't charge you anything til after that, so you can just cancel before the 14 days are up. voila, free ipod.

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  61. Any iTunes Affiliates up and running yet? by Monkeycube · · Score: 1

    Now that Apple has fully implemented individual product links in their iTunes Affiliate Program, we've started deploying them over on our site. (Translation: We've been obsessively tweaking for the past 20 hours, fueled by caffeine and ignoring personal hygeine.) After doing some searching, we can't find many other websites that have individual product links up yet, and we're curious to see how other webmasters are integrating the linkage.