I think it might be more basic than that -- rather, that theft is universally regarded wrong, and murder is theft of life. If you're not regarded as owning your life (for whatever reason -- evil state, criminal acts, etc) then it's not theft and therefore isn't murder.
Note that what IS theft depends on what is regarded as "owned". If you don't own it, no one can steal it from you.:/
IF prayer works, then you are correct, whether or not there is a soul/spirit/fluffy-bunny -- it is then unwarranted interference with another person. But if prayer doesn't actually work, then its only influence (regardless of whether souls exist) is on the person doing the praying. I think that's what the other reply was getting at.
And then there's the question of whether your belief or disbelief controls whether prayer works (or for that matter, if you have a soul).
So speaking as an atheist, if if does you good to pray for me, well, it does me no harm either.
Also, there may be some genetic factor akin to the MDR1 defect that affects some dogs' ability to process theobromine, as a few dogs do react very badly to it even in small quantities (my sister had a dog like that, and perhaps not by coincidence the dog was also epileptic). MDR1 isn't very different from the assorted genetic defects that cause enzyme deficiencies in humans...
Basically "banging on or chemically mistreating this nerve over here can cause that one over there to go 'huh?' or not work right". I don't think it requires more understanding so much as not microfocusing on Symptom A to the point of disconnecting it from Cause B... an increasing problem with the proliferation of specialists who can't see beyond their own hammer.
Aforementioned friend's wife had to hop up and down (well, by this point it was more like stagger about) and rudely demand an MRI (the problem was getting worse, no one seemed to have an answer) which made the cause clear... and made it obvious that focusing on wrists and legs was the wrong answer.
Myself, I had a wide array of what I now know are borderline-hypothyroid symptoms for *three decades*, yet could NOT convince anyone to run the most basic test since "you're not overweight, therefore it's not your thyroid". Well, when things got worse and they finally ran the test, and... I told you so!!
If the car has been sitting outside all night in -40 temps, it's gonna take more than a minute or two for the interior surfaces, let alone the steering wheel, to warm up enough that you'll want to take those mitts off.
What happens with a touchscreen when you're wearing heavy gloves or worse yet mittens? Oh, I see, everyone who buys these vehicles will already own a heated garage (probably because otherwise the electronics will croak in subzero weather) and will never need to get out of the car before arriving at their equally heated destination. Problem solved!
I have a 1978 F100 and a 1991 F350, both are all cloddy great knobs and switches, all of which do only one thing (the same things they did in every car before them, so no learning curve) and all can be operated without special effort, thought, or loss of attention to the road, even when wearing mittens. This is as the gods intended.
The exception is the aftermarket radio some yahoo stuck in the F350. It has about 20 tiny buttons, all multifunction, and none that can be operated without looking at 'em, except for the volume control (and only if you have bare fingers; gloved hands or even fat-fingers could not manipulate these tiny buttons).
So now they want to make the whole freakin' interface be the touch equivalent of tiny too-similar buttons??
I was already unhappy with the mess when some yahoo decided the turn signal would be a good place to put the whole freakin' former dashboard knob array...
In Montana, I often had to wait an hour or more to vote, even with a bunch of voting machines at the polling place -- yes, the lines were that long. In California, I've never had to wait more than two minutes, despite the polling places being no larger and the population being 40x as large.
Maybe it's more a matter of relative voter apathy.:/
How do I know who dead people voted for? I've poll-watched. Somehow there are more dead people voting in strongly Dem districts, tho I suspect one might actually blame the unions first and foremost.
Yep, there have always been alt-shells for Windows, back to Win3.0 at least. Some custom and newfangled, some emulating some other desktop. I've generally been happy with the default Win shell set to the most basic display, so haven't really looked at the alt-shells. I do use a lot of CL tools, oddball editors, renamers (Rename Master works best, the others I've tried are too buggy), whatnots. I leave a trail of Vern Buerg's LIST on every system I touch.:D
Powerdesk is pretty good about working in the background and not hogging the CPU overmuch -- I vaguely recall that v5 is now freeware.
I don't normally do batch jobs, just occasional very large copy jobs that may be partially at the destination already (due to a habit of some things being on multiple HDs, but when I set up a new HD, large chunks of the previous HDs get copied to the new one, and naturally there's already some duplication).
"No to all" wouldn't screw anything up, all it would do is do a mass prevent-overwrite, as opposed to having to do a one-at-a-time-prevent-overwrite.
Anyway, I'll give 'em a look, I got nothin' against using multiple tools:)
I thought the same... wow, what an artistic pose, look at how the reflections are laid out... I was surprised to learn it was a centerfold. Reminds me somewhat of a picture a friend used to have, of a nude woman pouring milk over her shoulder so it splashed down her back. Lovely, artistic, not the least bit lewd, and wish to hell I could find a copy of it, one of the most beautiful portraits I've ever seen.
I'd say that "weak social antennae" basically means inability to see others AS people. Very often these malageeks (new word) are just as much asswipes with each other as they are with women, but among themselves the behaviour goes unnoticed, or is considered "normal".
(Well, "normal" is whatever is the norm within a culture, so...)
I've had a similar thought -- rotating random government duty for all of what are presently elected positions. Maybe give a tax credit to encourage people to not try to get out of it (as someone once put it, a jury consists of 12 people too stupid to get out of jury duty; you certainly don't want to extend that to lawmakers!) This instantly kills the whole election campaign and campaign contribution churn. And while we'd get a few morons, or little tin gods, the existing system of checks and balances and the fact that the average person tends to at least try to do right, should pretty much mitigate that, particularly if there's some sort of recall function. Further, terms should be short, no more than 90 days, so damages from a bad apple are limited.
For that matter, a number of state governments do perfectly well with legislative sessions something like 90 days every other year. The less time the legislature is in session, the fewer stupid things it can do and the more it has to concentrate on Real Work... and the more time the legislators have to spend holding down real jobs in range of the peasants armed with pitchforks.
What a shameless lack of major known bugs, too...:D Tho seems to me if you just concentrate on doing the one job it's meant to do, you also fail to introduce weird bugs related to the added crapware. Gee, what a concept!
Not a dev, but dl'd to try... if nothing else I can apply my fearsome repute as "the beta tester who can break anything!"
Does 2.2x fix the problem with the little bitty.dat files growing into 50mb monsters while chewing 100% of CPU forever?
I skipped from 1.somethingancient to 3.whatevercurrent and tho some nice features have been added, the stupid.dat bug is insane. Not to mention all the crap I have to turn off again every time I reset the.dat file (using a known-good copy resets the crap, too).
Thank, I'll give 'em a try... I've sometimes used PowerDesk cuz it has that "No to all" feature and runs copy jobs in the background, but little things about it where I have to stop and think before doing the job tend to irritate me when it's every bloody time I use it... other replacements I've tried have been lacking or buggy... it's such a simple feature, you gotta wonder why Windows never added it!
I'll have to remember that when/if I get to Win7... given that the bloody menus and such are here to serve MY needs, not to look pretty.
[looks at Classic Shell copy dialog, much better] One thing they're still missing, in the file-copy dialog, I've long wanted a "No to all" option, for those times when there's more than one file I don't want to [do whatever] to.
"And, it doesn't matter where Obama's ancestry is from. He looks different from what people normally think of as a president (not an old white man) so they are uncomfortable with it."
I don't think that's the case -- if it were, he'd have never been elected by such a wide majority of voters in the first place. Rather, I think now that we've had three years to experience him as President, we're finding that rather than being one of us, he looks down on us. Which isn't going to engender a sense of comfort with the man.
I'd say your fiance's grandmother is tribalist (ie. doesn't trust anyone who is Obviously Not From My Tribe) which is quite probably a normal human response bred into us by our very distant ancestors. Some of us have been raised or habituated to other races in "our tribe" but many people have not been. So they have that automatic and instinctive distrust of other races, even tho they don't intend to be "racist".
If she were truly racist, pointing it out to her wouldn't make her try to overcome her distrust.
BTW tribalism of this sort is not limited to humans; my dogs will NOT accept unrelated dogs, and when I had two unrelated bloodlines, they never got along.
Someone in Another Forum[tm] suggested that anyone receiving welfare from the gov't should not be allowed to vote for the duration, because doing so is a conflict of interest -- since naturally they are going to vote for continuing handouts no matter how it screws everyone else.
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That's cuz in America, it's three *corncobs*.
I think it might be more basic than that -- rather, that theft is universally regarded wrong, and murder is theft of life. If you're not regarded as owning your life (for whatever reason -- evil state, criminal acts, etc) then it's not theft and therefore isn't murder.
Note that what IS theft depends on what is regarded as "owned". If you don't own it, no one can steal it from you. :/
As a truck-drivin' redneck, I respec'fully request that y'all stick to the .sidewalk, where y'all belongs!!
IF prayer works, then you are correct, whether or not there is a soul/spirit/fluffy-bunny -- it is then unwarranted interference with another person. But if prayer doesn't actually work, then its only influence (regardless of whether souls exist) is on the person doing the praying. I think that's what the other reply was getting at.
And then there's the question of whether your belief or disbelief controls whether prayer works (or for that matter, if you have a soul).
So speaking as an atheist, if if does you good to pray for me, well, it does me no harm either.
Also, there may be some genetic factor akin to the MDR1 defect that affects some dogs' ability to process theobromine, as a few dogs do react very badly to it even in small quantities (my sister had a dog like that, and perhaps not by coincidence the dog was also epileptic). MDR1 isn't very different from the assorted genetic defects that cause enzyme deficiencies in humans...
Basically "banging on or chemically mistreating this nerve over here can cause that one over there to go 'huh?' or not work right". I don't think it requires more understanding so much as not microfocusing on Symptom A to the point of disconnecting it from Cause B... an increasing problem with the proliferation of specialists who can't see beyond their own hammer.
Aforementioned friend's wife had to hop up and down (well, by this point it was more like stagger about) and rudely demand an MRI (the problem was getting worse, no one seemed to have an answer) which made the cause clear... and made it obvious that focusing on wrists and legs was the wrong answer.
Myself, I had a wide array of what I now know are borderline-hypothyroid symptoms for *three decades*, yet could NOT convince anyone to run the most basic test since "you're not overweight, therefore it's not your thyroid". Well, when things got worse and they finally ran the test, and... I told you so!!
Does make me wonder how often this happens.
If the car has been sitting outside all night in -40 temps, it's gonna take more than a minute or two for the interior surfaces, let alone the steering wheel, to warm up enough that you'll want to take those mitts off.
What happens with a touchscreen when you're wearing heavy gloves or worse yet mittens? Oh, I see, everyone who buys these vehicles will already own a heated garage (probably because otherwise the electronics will croak in subzero weather) and will never need to get out of the car before arriving at their equally heated destination. Problem solved!
I have a 1978 F100 and a 1991 F350, both are all cloddy great knobs and switches, all of which do only one thing (the same things they did in every car before them, so no learning curve) and all can be operated without special effort, thought, or loss of attention to the road, even when wearing mittens. This is as the gods intended.
The exception is the aftermarket radio some yahoo stuck in the F350. It has about 20 tiny buttons, all multifunction, and none that can be operated without looking at 'em, except for the volume control (and only if you have bare fingers; gloved hands or even fat-fingers could not manipulate these tiny buttons).
So now they want to make the whole freakin' interface be the touch equivalent of tiny too-similar buttons??
I was already unhappy with the mess when some yahoo decided the turn signal would be a good place to put the whole freakin' former dashboard knob array...
In Montana, I often had to wait an hour or more to vote, even with a bunch of voting machines at the polling place -- yes, the lines were that long. In California, I've never had to wait more than two minutes, despite the polling places being no larger and the population being 40x as large.
Maybe it's more a matter of relative voter apathy. :/
How do I know who dead people voted for? I've poll-watched. Somehow there are more dead people voting in strongly Dem districts, tho I suspect one might actually blame the unions first and foremost.
Yep, there have always been alt-shells for Windows, back to Win3.0 at least. Some custom and newfangled, some emulating some other desktop. I've generally been happy with the default Win shell set to the most basic display, so haven't really looked at the alt-shells. I do use a lot of CL tools, oddball editors, renamers (Rename Master works best, the others I've tried are too buggy), whatnots. I leave a trail of Vern Buerg's LIST on every system I touch. :D
Powerdesk is pretty good about working in the background and not hogging the CPU overmuch -- I vaguely recall that v5 is now freeware.
I don't normally do batch jobs, just occasional very large copy jobs that may be partially at the destination already (due to a habit of some things being on multiple HDs, but when I set up a new HD, large chunks of the previous HDs get copied to the new one, and naturally there's already some duplication).
"No to all" wouldn't screw anything up, all it would do is do a mass prevent-overwrite, as opposed to having to do a one-at-a-time-prevent-overwrite.
Anyway, I'll give 'em a look, I got nothin' against using multiple tools :)
I thought the same... wow, what an artistic pose, look at how the reflections are laid out... I was surprised to learn it was a centerfold. Reminds me somewhat of a picture a friend used to have, of a nude woman pouring milk over her shoulder so it splashed down her back. Lovely, artistic, not the least bit lewd, and wish to hell I could find a copy of it, one of the most beautiful portraits I've ever seen.
Exacly... policies don't teach life-lessons. Getting your nuts knocked up between your ears, tho... if you can't learn from that, you're unteachable.
Of course the truly malageek [my new word for maladjusted geek] will then scream "bullying!' even tho he brought it on himself.
I'd say that "weak social antennae" basically means inability to see others AS people. Very often these malageeks (new word) are just as much asswipes with each other as they are with women, but among themselves the behaviour goes unnoticed, or is considered "normal".
(Well, "normal" is whatever is the norm within a culture, so...)
I've had a similar thought -- rotating random government duty for all of what are presently elected positions. Maybe give a tax credit to encourage people to not try to get out of it (as someone once put it, a jury consists of 12 people too stupid to get out of jury duty; you certainly don't want to extend that to lawmakers!) This instantly kills the whole election campaign and campaign contribution churn. And while we'd get a few morons, or little tin gods, the existing system of checks and balances and the fact that the average person tends to at least try to do right, should pretty much mitigate that, particularly if there's some sort of recall function. Further, terms should be short, no more than 90 days, so damages from a bad apple are limited.
For that matter, a number of state governments do perfectly well with legislative sessions something like 90 days every other year. The less time the legislature is in session, the fewer stupid things it can do and the more it has to concentrate on Real Work... and the more time the legislators have to spend holding down real jobs in range of the peasants armed with pitchforks.
[goes off, looks at buglist]
What a shameless lack of major known bugs, too... :D Tho seems to me if you just concentrate on doing the one job it's meant to do, you also fail to introduce weird bugs related to the added crapware. Gee, what a concept!
Not a dev, but dl'd to try... if nothing else I can apply my fearsome repute as "the beta tester who can break anything!"
Does 2.2x fix the problem with the little bitty .dat files growing into 50mb monsters while chewing 100% of CPU forever?
I skipped from 1.somethingancient to 3.whatevercurrent and tho some nice features have been added, the stupid .dat bug is insane. Not to mention all the crap I have to turn off again every time I reset the .dat file (using a known-good copy resets the crap, too).
Thank, I'll give 'em a try... I've sometimes used PowerDesk cuz it has that "No to all" feature and runs copy jobs in the background, but little things about it where I have to stop and think before doing the job tend to irritate me when it's every bloody time I use it... other replacements I've tried have been lacking or buggy... it's such a simple feature, you gotta wonder why Windows never added it!
I'll have to remember that when/if I get to Win7... given that the bloody menus and such are here to serve MY needs, not to look pretty.
[looks at Classic Shell copy dialog, much better] One thing they're still missing, in the file-copy dialog, I've long wanted a "No to all" option, for those times when there's more than one file I don't want to [do whatever] to.
"And, it doesn't matter where Obama's ancestry is from. He looks different from what people normally think of as a president (not an old white man) so they are uncomfortable with it."
I don't think that's the case -- if it were, he'd have never been elected by such a wide majority of voters in the first place. Rather, I think now that we've had three years to experience him as President, we're finding that rather than being one of us, he looks down on us. Which isn't going to engender a sense of comfort with the man.
I'd say your fiance's grandmother is tribalist (ie. doesn't trust anyone who is Obviously Not From My Tribe) which is quite probably a normal human response bred into us by our very distant ancestors. Some of us have been raised or habituated to other races in "our tribe" but many people have not been. So they have that automatic and instinctive distrust of other races, even tho they don't intend to be "racist".
If she were truly racist, pointing it out to her wouldn't make her try to overcome her distrust.
BTW tribalism of this sort is not limited to humans; my dogs will NOT accept unrelated dogs, and when I had two unrelated bloodlines, they never got along.
Someone in Another Forum[tm] suggested that anyone receiving welfare from the gov't should not be allowed to vote for the duration, because doing so is a conflict of interest -- since naturally they are going to vote for continuing handouts no matter how it screws everyone else.