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Bill Gates Wants To Reinvent the Toilet

redletterdave writes "Bill Gates, the man responsible for bringing software to the masses with Microsoft and Windows, has plans to reinvent and popularize another industry: Sanitation. Gates, whose philanthropic efforts have helped bring clean water and resources to developing countries via the foundation created by he and his wife Melinda, said at the 'Reinvent The Toilet Fair' in Seattle on Wednesday that he plans to build a toilet that's better suited to developing countries in an effort to cut down on disease and death in those regions. 'Inventing new toilets is one of the most important things we can do to reduce child deaths and disease and improve people's lives,' Gates said. 'It is also something that can help wealthier countries conserve fresh water for other important purposes besides flushing.'" Science Insider has some information on the winning designs from this year.

338 comments

  1. Reason: by Niris · · Score: 5, Funny

    So we have something new for Windows 8 to go down.

    1. Re:Reason: by Niris · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But on a more serious note, good for him. I'm glad he's at least doing something productive with his time and money, and for a humanitarian cause.

    2. Re:Reason: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think Windows 8 is the toilet.
      Captcha: perhaps

    3. Re:Reason: by drodal · · Score: 0, Troll

      It's my understanding that when he "helps" he does it in a very "for profit" way. Like buying expensive medicine for poor people, when they could have been helped in a less profitable way......and more sustainable way.....

      So he is still being bill gates........ and not that humanitarian....... (see what happened with OLPC)

      Oh, this info i got, i got from the net, at a place called slash dot.

    4. Re:Reason: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What happened with OLPC, then? And with did Bill Gates do wrong in that matter?

    5. Re:Reason: by rainmouse · · Score: 1

      Is this the new font that the iPhone /. app?

    6. Re:Reason: by nukenerd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      He, or someone at Microsoft, put some kind of pressure on the project to use Windows rather than a free OS. He did not want the kiddies growing up being accustomed to Linux.

    7. Re:Reason: by smooth+wombat · · Score: 0

      So we have something new for Windows 8 to go down.

      I was going to say Windows 7 since it came first, but to each their own.

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    8. Re:Reason: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But didnt they got rid of the start button in Windows 8? How is any body going to the toilet without the start button?

    9. Re:Reason: by niceworkthere · · Score: 1

      At least it looks like they found the new name for Metro.

    10. Re:Reason: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it's a good decoy for his vaccination eugenics programs in Africa.

    11. Re:Reason: by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Yawn....already been done. This "new" toilet will have to fulfill a need of great importance in order to be adopted.You know, like the current low-flush and ultra-low-flush toilets on the market. Also, do these people who need sanitation have running water? Sewage systems? If not, the composting toilet could be the answer and it has been refined for at least a generation. I was hoping we would quit cutting down trees and use more water to clean our behinds (water is renewable you know), but you I guess you can toss that out the Windows. A reduction in trees has always shown shown a serious impact on any region.

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    12. Re:Reason: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's only doing this stuff where he can have control of the IP in third world countries. things he can make more money from. He doesn't care about people dying, not when they're in countries where he doesn't agree with their IP rules (or not).

      Like many philanthropic billionaires, they only aim to increase their wealth by "encouraging" others to create product or needs that the billionaires control.

      It they truly want to help, they merely need to hand over their wealth en-masse, and start cutting very very large checks.

    13. Re:Reason: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think they're taking the "do epic shit" motto to new levels.

    14. Re:Reason: by oji-sama · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I was hoping we would quit cutting down trees and use more water to clean our behinds (water is renewable you know)

      I have heard that trees might alse be renewable. Infact, I believe that cleaning water is harder than growing trees. Although I do agree that reduction in trees is definitely not a good thing.

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    15. Re:Reason: by davydagger · · Score: 1

      other than using his foundation to strong arm other charities into paying for monsanto crops of which he owns stock, and strong arming them to accept higher prices.

      Of which the farmers who are the recepiants of the seeds may or may not have to pay royalities in comming years.

    16. Re:Reason: by davydagger · · Score: 2

      if only to make money for his stake in glaxo-kline-smith, of which he purchases the meds from.

      Or donating computers to india so now they all run windows, and places can start exporting tech support there.

    17. Re:Reason: by Algae_94 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Strangely enough, growing trees can actually be done with the use of dirty water. This will help clean the water and your ass.

      Massive deforestation is indeed a problem, but trees can be harvested in a sustainable way.

    18. Re:Reason: by Eponymous+Hero · · Score: 2

      kill two birds and make it big enough to flush ballmer

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    19. Re:Reason: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah the windows 8 team where flushed with success!

    20. Re:Reason: by wmac1 · · Score: 1

      It's my understanding that when he "helps" he does it in a very "for profit" way. Like buying expensive medicine for poor people, when they could have been helped in a less profitable way......and more sustainable way.....

      He is going to sell the shits ... that's why he builds toilets!!!

    21. Re:Reason: by jameshofo · · Score: 1

      He's just waiting for Adobe to finish porting flash to it!

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    22. Re:Reason: by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      On a more clinical note, one can now finally see the usefulness of a m$ CD, but I think those with Hemorrhoids will be slightly hesitant.

    23. Re:Reason: by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      I would think of it as an acknowledgement instead.

    24. Re:Reason: by bhcompy · · Score: 1

      And, if I recall, the bargain was we'll help you out(cash, logistics, smoothing out the lawsuits they were getting, etc) if you help us out(using their product). That is a fair and even trade, imho. Sure, it was for the reason you speculate, but that's what happens with you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours agreements.

    25. Re:Reason: by drodal · · Score: 1

      really, i'm a troll

      l8tr /.

    26. Re:Reason: by overmoderated · · Score: 0

      Toilet is a more appropriate name than windows. Where do you want to s h i t today?

    27. Re:Reason: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As long as the toilet doesn't crash.

      "Sorry, the toilet has crashed. You will not be able to flush until it reboots. The process will take 5 minutes. Please wait."

    28. Re:Reason: by ByOhTek · · Score: 1

      Flush him! Before he thinks it's a chair!

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    29. Re:Reason: by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      Ballmer ordered this, he's been trying to flush Microsoft down the toilet since Bill left but it's not going quite fast enough.

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    30. Re:Reason: by niix · · Score: 1

      He already reinvented the toilet it's called Windows 8.

    31. Re:Reason: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure how productive this is.
      I agree that developing nations, who are contributing to the global economy (tech, labour, minerals, etc...) should be advancing into the modern age however a nation cannot be catapulted into the modern age.

      A toilet seems like a rather insignificant contribution however it decreases disease rates significantly.
      This seems like a great idea however.... If people are suffering from drought, lack of food, potable water, etc... This seems counter-intuitive.
      If a population cannot sustain itself on the resources it has, it should not try to reduce it's death rate.

      Instead focus on gradual infrastructure improvements such as education, resource exploitation (this is semi-evil if done uneducated but still...) and various other self-improvement projects. Let the health move in par with the wealth of a nation.

      I am a Canadian so wealth/health don't have any correlation for me however increasing overall health/lifespan in nations that cannot cope with their current populous seems ridiculously to me and will only create more problems than resolves.

      In short... We need to help other develop but... consideration must be given to overall socio-economic impacts.
      This may actually do more harm than good.

    32. Re:Reason: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flush with new ideas and new features - both.
      Gates and MS are way past their use-by date.

    33. Re:Reason: by Trepidity · · Score: 1

      In North America, toilet paper doesn't even reduce trees, because it comes from fast-growing, low-quality wood grown on tree farms. Average count of trees on those farms stays relatively constant, they just get harvested and replanted every 6-8 years.

      Not as sure whether China's paper-production industry is sustainable currently, or involves cutting down new areas of forestland, though.

    34. Re:Reason: by westlake · · Score: 1
      quote>He did not want the kiddies growing up being accustomed to Linux.

      Not a problem.

      Top 5 Operating Systems From Jul 2011 - Jul 2012

      Worldwide
      Asia
      Africa
      South America

      The closest Linux has come to far-reaching popular acceptance is in Android --- and the one thing Android clearly is not is traditional community oriented Linux distribution.

    35. Re:Reason: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought he already invented the toilet.
      It was called "Windows ME"

    36. Re:Reason: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So we have something new for Windows 8 to go down.

      Leave him alone. You go, Bill.

    37. Re:Reason: by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      If improving sewage management means that water sources remain potable rather than becoming polluted, it's a good thing.

      If an improvement in sewage management means that the resulting effluent can be used to improve agriculture through fertilisation that better still.

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    38. Re:Reason: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GlaxoSmithKline

    39. Re:Reason: by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

      Massive deforestation is indeed a problem, but trees can be harvested in a sustainable way.

      Tree Farms != Forests.

    40. Re:Reason: by thoughtlover · · Score: 1

      'Inventing new toilets is one of the most important things we can do to reduce child deaths and disease and improve people's lives,

      No, providing clean water will do more to reduce anyone's death or disease. I don't see how having advanced toilets is going to keep children in third world countries from not drinking dirty water. Most third world countries lack plumbing to connect a toilet to, nevermind a water treatment facility. I'm sick of politicians (foundations are all politically motivated) using the 'think of the children' cry when everyone has the same basic needs.

      Screw the Bill and Melinda Gates' Foundation... They (among many other 'humanitarian' foundations) told Dean Kaman to take a hike when he brought forward his amazing invention, the Slingshot. That foundation doesn't give a rat's ass about the welfare of the Third World... they only care to use their 'foundation' status as a massive tax shelter.

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    41. Re:Reason: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't need trees; just leaves from any old plant you see around. Remember the mnemonic: "Leaflets three, great TP."

    42. Re:Reason: by Algae_94 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the heads up. I wasn't implying that they were, I was stating that paper is a renewable resource.

    43. Re:Reason: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a good thing then, because Linux sucks balls for desktops (and laptops).

    44. Re:Reason: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He did not want the kiddies growing up being accustomed to Linux.

      And for that I admire him. Life is hard enough in 3rd world countries without the hardships incurred by using Linux.

  2. Well why not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    he's spent all these years making crap.

    1. Re:Well why not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why not? BFOD.

      (Brown Flush of Death).

    2. Re:Well why not by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Informative

      I could have sworn I saw this exact same story at slashdot a year ago... and someone in that thread made the exact same comment. Is this story a dupe, or a rerun?

    3. Re:Well why not by Terrasque · · Score: 2

      (Brown Flush of Death)

      Sorry, but the kebab masters already have a patent on that.

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    4. Re:Well why not by Eponymous+Hero · · Score: 4, Informative
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    5. Re:Well why not by Eponymous+Hero · · Score: 1

      OH SO SORRY! the url is in all lowercase. hope you don't get an aneurysm.

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    6. Re:Well why not by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 1

      It's even better than that. What he did with computers was very little, for a lot of people. The OS was a bit hacked together from the start, and didn't stop, but because almost everybody was exposed to it he had a big impact in the long run.

      He's doing exactly the same with his philanthropic efforts - targeting the big worldwide problems which can most easily be influenced with money, like education, sanitation and disease control. Throw a little bit of effort, like a new design of toilet, at one area and you can improve life for a very big chunk of humanity.

      His software and business practices might suck, but as a philanthropist he seems to have some interesting ideas. And hey, if a big chunk of the Windows profits go to stopping young children dying horrible deaths (by the million) then there's a certain element of payback.

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    7. Re:Well why not by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Well, a year ago he was looking at the idea, right now he has decided to really want to do it.

    8. Re:Well why not by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Some like a big ass, some like a small ass, but nobody likes a smartass punk.

  3. Great.... by Laserfuzz · · Score: 2

    can't wait to see for the BSOD on that.

    1. Re:Great.... by Idbar · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, on the bright side, it's not Apple. I don't know if I could handle a slippery shinny device with fingerprints all over.

      Let me clarify, not fingerprints but buttprints. But you have a point, I hope its well protected from overflow attacks.

    2. Re:Great.... by wild_quinine · · Score: 4, Insightful

      can't wait to see for the BSOD on that.

      Let's just hope it doesn't ship with Windows 8, because Joe Average is going to shit in his pants trying to find the button that lets you lift the lid.

    3. Re:Great.... by djl4570 · · Score: 2

      can't wait to see for the BSOD on that.

      Would that be the Brown Screen of Death?

    4. Re:Great.... by AragornSonOfArathorn · · Score: 3, Funny

      can't wait to see for the BSOD on that.

      Would that be the Brown Screen of Death?

      Brown Spray of Death.

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    5. Re:Great.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm more worried about the EULA than the BSOD. You agree that "All your shit are belong to us!"

    6. Re:Great.... by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      Well, on the bright side, it's not Apple. I don't know if I could handle a slippery shinny device with fingerprints all over.

      Let me clarify, not fingerprints but buttprints. But you have a point, I hope its well protected from overflow attacks.

      The BSOD keeps me regular, and DDoS doesn't help.

    7. Re:Great.... by jd2112 · · Score: 1

      Can't decide if it should be modded funny or informitave.

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    8. Re:Great.... by Algae_94 · · Score: 1

      More like Brown Spray of Diarrhea.

    9. Re:Great.... by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      Brown Shitstain of Death (the only way to get it out is a complete reinstall)

    10. Re:Great.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that what happens when you get the Zune squirts?

    11. Re:Great.... by Eponymous+Hero · · Score: 1

      patenting the buttprint authentication system for toilets. nobody but you will be allowed to use the commode.

      version 2: hydrofluoric acid bidet security countermeasure and automatic facebook update (frees up your hands for, uhh, other activities...).

      false buttprint matches will still be identified via facebook, so your countermeasure incident is posted automatically too. connects to facebook via google TiSP http://www.google.com/onceuponatime/tisp/

      product slogan: protect your shit! crowdsource me plz, you can reach me at those.are.my.stains@buttprintz.com.

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    12. Re:Great.... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't buttprints be identified by buttbook instead?
      I mean, facebook is about faces, isn't it?
      Hmmm ... I smell another identification method ... with identification done by fecebook ... :-)

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    13. Re:Great.... by asdf7890 · · Score: 1

      can't wait to see for the BSOD on that.

      It would bring a whole new meaning to the part that reads "beginning dump of memory".

    14. Re:Great.... by Jade_Wayfarer · · Score: 1

      Ugh, don't smell it man, it's nasty! Use air freshener.

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  4. Great... by juanfgs · · Score: 5, Funny

    plans to build a toilet that's better suited to developing countries

    toilet starter edition...

    1. Re:Great... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Funny

      You can only drop 3 logs at a time.

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    2. Re:Great... by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 1

      Toilet 1.0 (hole in the ground)

      Toilet 2.0 (hole in the ground with a seat)

      Toilet 3.0 (hole in the ground with a seat, additional removable bucket)

      Toilet WC (one for the UK audience there, shhh, don't explain it to the septics)

      Toilet 69 (abandoned for reasons that have been stricken from human consciousness)

      Toilet JP (fully automatic washing mechanism, dietary analysis, advanced cancer detection)

      Toilet Vista (the fan was a bad idea from the word go, and having to install a high pressure pump in the plumbing didn't help)

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    3. Re:Great... by stepho-wrs · · Score: 1

      I like the sly reference to yanks in 3.0 :)

  5. Wipe with $100 Bills by RapidEye · · Score: 1

    At his house they wipe with $100 bills - they are going to install similar dispensers around the world!

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  6. The toilet... by pr0nbot · · Score: 0

    Oddly, that's the one place I've always wanted to put Windows.

  7. iPoop by InvisibleClergy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm just going to wait for Apple's competing product. The toilet is a perfect example of an Apple product. It has one button, one function, and it needs to be clean and durable.

    1. Re:iPoop by wild_quinine · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm just going to wait for Apple's competing product. The toilet is a perfect example of an Apple product. It has one button, one function, and it needs to be clean and durable.

      And incredibly it will be the first toilet ever to have a seat with smooth, rounded edges. Not like all those barbed wire versions the rest of us have been using for 20 years.

    2. Re:iPoop by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      You mean you're going to wait for Apple's patented competing product.

      Once they enter the market, despite decades of existing players in that market, nobody else should be able to participate in the smart toilet market. The entire market is God's gift to Apple.

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    3. Re:iPoop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So long as the iPoop 2 doesn't have a retina display...

    4. Re:iPoop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not to mention...it comes in a white version.

    5. Re:iPoop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, if it were an Apple product there would only be three models available, it would be expensive as hell, and you would only be able to get it from one store.

    6. Re:iPoop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot to mention:
      a) Most are already white in color
      b) There's already all kinds of accessories that can be sold, like lid covers and colorful carpets
      c) While there aren't apps or tunes, toilet paper comes in dozens if not hundreds of different patterns, plies, sizes and they are all white too!

    7. Re:iPoop by idontgno · · Score: 3, Funny

      And then, there'll be the inevitable design flaw that crops up once the iCrapper becomes the market darling. And the cover-up of the design flaw. And the extensive silencing of forum discussion of the design flaw. And the "You're sitting on it wrong" email. Then the threatened lawsuits, and the announcement of free toilet seat covers to help remedy the problem.

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    8. Re:iPoop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      And incredibly it will be the first toilet ever to have a seat with smooth, rounded edges. Not like all those barbed wire versions the rest of us have been using for 20 years.

      Upon seeing it, Apple-haters will immediately start screaming about how all those who sit on the Apple toilet seat are stupid wimps who aren't strong or smart enough to use a "real" barbed-wire toilet seat (a.k.a., "DOS": Definition Of Suffering).

      Right up until the point that someone other than Apple starts selling a comfortable toilet seat, at which point the same Apple-haters will immediately adopt it, proclaim its superiority over barbed-wire toilet seats, and claim that since a non-Apple non-barbed-wire seat exists, Apple is now redundant and should go die.

    9. Re:iPoop by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

      I'm just going to wait for Apple's competing product. The toilet is a perfect example of an Apple product. It has one button, one function, and it needs to be clean and durable.

      The iCan.

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    10. Re:iPoop by 91degrees · · Score: 2

      I'll just leave this here

      It's an oldie.

    11. Re:iPoop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot to mention: a) Most are already white in color b) There's already all kinds of accessories that can be sold, like lid covers and colorful carpets c) While there aren't apps or tunes, toilet paper comes in dozens if not hundreds of different patterns, plies, sizes and they are all white too!

      All these can be included in the design patent as prior art.

    12. Re:iPoop by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      Brushed aluminium edges of the perfect radius, with the toughest Corning glass for the seat cover, allowing an unparalleled view of the toilet's contents. Also, they've eliminated the superfluous handle entirely. Instead, it will detect when your posterior lifts off the seat. They've used the same technology as the proximity detector on the iPhone, allowing the toilet to just let you go about your business while it gets out of the way.

      Of course, you may want to wait for next year's model. Rumors indicate that it's 33% smaller. That...that's a good thing, right?

    13. Re:iPoop by the+phantom · · Score: 1

      There's prior art. The toilets at my office flush automatically. I assume they use motion sensors to determine when I am done.

    14. Re:iPoop by Nemyst · · Score: 1

      And if it stops working, it's because you're flushing it wrong.

    15. Re:iPoop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not like all those barbed wire versions the rest of us have been using for 20 years

      Thank god the barbed wire toilet seat was invented in 1992! Prior to that we all just shit in holes in the ground.

    16. Re:iPoop by Larryish · · Score: 1

      There a crap for that!

    17. Re:iPoop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah... that was a little too close to being a serious idea... thanks to Anubis IV we may actually see this within the next year or two :S

    18. Re:iPoop by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      You forgot the inevitable leak (ha!) of the iCrapper in a bar, and then gizmodo or cNet or somebody like that will take it apart on camera and post everything on their forum for all to see in the open.

    19. Re:iPoop by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      An Apple toilet would actually flush when you were done, not just when you got off the seat necessitating multiple flushes...

       

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    20. Re:iPoop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm just going to wait for Apple's competing product. The toilet is a perfect example of an Apple product. It has one button, one function, and it needs to be clean and durable.

      Until you hold it wrong.

    21. Re:iPoop by HapSlappy_2222 · · Score: 2

      Best part? The tank will be sealed, so you have to replace the entire unit when it runs out of water.

    22. Re:iPoop by HapSlappy_2222 · · Score: 1

      And then, there'll be the inevitable design flaw that crops up once the iCrapper becomes the market darling. And the cover-up of the design flaw. And the extensive silencing of forum discussion of the design flaw. And the "You're sitting on it wrong" email. Then the threatened lawsuits, and the announcement of free toilet seat covers to help remedy the problem.

      It won't flush? You're shitting into it wrong. Push so the vein on the *other* side of your forehead head pops out, instead.

    23. Re:iPoop by stepho-wrs · · Score: 1

      There is no prior art.
      Only Apple has the smarts to invent the iSht.
      Those so called "auto flush" toilets have a man behind a fake partition who's job it is to push the button for you.
      Say "hello" to them next time you use their services - being appreciated makes them less likely to flush while you're still in position.

    24. Re:iPoop by yester64 · · Score: 1

      The all new iFlush

    25. Re:iPoop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seeing a clip of Jonny Ive talking passionately and with enthusiasm about the design of the iPoop would be hilarious!

    26. Re:iPoop by unixisc · · Score: 1

      The OS for the iPoop will be the iPOS. Here will be its version history:

      iPOS 1: The one button will flush everything once you're done.
      iPOS 2: The one button will wash & dry your butt, then flush everything.
      iPOS 3: The one button will enable you to shit even if you're constipated, then wash & dry your butt, then flush everything.
      iPOS 4: The one button will enable you to shit even if you're constipated, then wash & dry your butt, then flush everything and then pull up your pants
      iPOS 5: The one button will enable you to shit even if you're constipated, then wash & dry your butt, then flush everything, then pull up your pants and then wash your hands before leaving
      iPOS 6: The one button will enable you to shit even if you're constipated, then wash & dry your butt, then flush everything, then pull up your pants and then wash your hands before leaving, and finally leave the toilet

  8. Pass by zill · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sick and tired of all these Windows 8 ads on slashdot.

    1. Re:Pass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's targeted ad's.. You know you have been looking at Windows 8 and drooling of the release day.

  9. Cleaning the toilet today dear? by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

    No hon, the toilet just crashed again.

    Just press down on the seat while you toggle the handle and urinate at the same time.

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    1. Re:Cleaning the toilet today dear? by mystikkman · · Score: 1

      That's an exceedingly lame attempt at a joke.

  10. Way to state the bleeding obvious. by gallondr00nk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Bill Gates, the man responsible for bringing software to the masses with Microsoft and Windows..."

    Fucking hell, this is Slashdot, not Readers Digest.

    1. Re:Way to state the bleeding obvious. by mcmonkey · · Score: 1

      I like how some nobody blogger who no one has ever heard of can get a post on the front page of /. (submitted by some "A/C" most likely the blogger him or herself) with just a name and no introduction.

      But Bill Gates, oh better explain that one! No one's ever heard of him.

    2. Re:Way to state the bleeding obvious. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Wow. This opens up a whole new area of reading comprehension for me. I was entirely unaware that sentences could simply just end whenever the reader wanted them to. I mean, the original sentence:

      Bill Gates, the man responsible for bringing software to the masses with Microsoft and Windows, has plans to reinvent and popularize another industry: Sanitation.

      ...sounded like a well-written introduction to the article, both introducing what Bill Gates did and providing it as a comparison to what he's doing now. All in all, very nice. But, when read with your revolutionary method, it becomes:

      Bill Gates, the man responsible for bringing software to the masses with Microsoft and Windows [...]

      ...reducing the original, perfectly serviceable sentence, into an obvious, condescending fragment, convenient for whining purposes! And what's more, when coupled with the average stupefying arrogance of the usual Slashdot reader, that sort of reading can guarantee thousands of angry posts, like yours, are made on every article, keeping the site in business forever!

      Here, I'll try it myself. Let's take this sentence:

      Some would say Steve Jobs revolutionized the way we think about technology; others, however, think of him as dumbing down technology with walled gardens and an excessive focus on appearance over functionality.

      Okay, a fair sentiment. Now let's try it your way, and...

      Some would say Steve Jobs [...]

      Yeah, that's the problem today. EVERYONE would say "Steve Jobs". That fucker plastered his face all over the goddamned media his whole life, and now all the worthless sheep can't get enough of saying "Steve Jobs". ARRRRRG RAEG HATE HATE HAET

      Whew! I don't know what came over me just there, but it was quite the rush! Thanks, gallondr00nk, for introducing me to this incredible new way of reading!

    3. Re:Way to state the bleeding obvious. by Shompol · · Score: 1

      I am sure there is more than one Gates on this planet, and some of them go by the name Bill. So when Bill starts making toilets such clarification is very helpful. So much, in fact, that without it the article would be almost meaningless.

  11. Plan B for the Gates Fund? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Apparently genital mutilation wasn't preventing disease.

  12. Why reinvent the wheel? by Krojack · · Score: 1

    So lets spend millions to reinvent the wheel while we're at it!

    1. Re:Why reinvent the wheel? by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, in this case, taking into account the water and sanitary needs of developing countries, this makes perfect sense.

      Not everybody has the luxury of municipal water which takes such things away to be handled by Someone Else.

      Doing it in a way that is portable, cheap to operate, doesn't require a massive infrastructure, and doesn't spread disease ... well, for a lot of people in the world, that would be a huge improvement.

      From TFA:

      About 2.6 billion people around the world don't have proper access to safe and suitable sanitation, and as a result, more than 1.5 million children die each year from diarrhea-related diseases or illnesses caused by consuming dirty water.

      So, really, what wheel are you insinuating is being reinvented here?

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    2. Re:Why reinvent the wheel? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wheels are reinvented all the time. Goodyear will spend millions on that this year, for a variety of reasons, including safety and performance.

      Maybe you just want us to stick with round logs.

    3. Re:Why reinvent the wheel? by crazyjj · · Score: 1

      Oh yes. Why would you need to reinvent the toilet when all rural areas in third world countries obviously have the same access to municipal water and sewer systems just like we have here in the first world?

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    4. Re:Why reinvent the wheel? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Hong Kong, they have separate plumbing and use sea water for flushing toilet.
      I can see using untreated water for the toilet.

    5. Re:Why reinvent the wheel? by rhsanborn · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately, many countries don't have such easy access to water or the plumbing infrastructure to deliver it to all of these people. I believe it was common in Brazilian slums to have about 4 gallons of water per person per day for all needs (cooking, cleaning, consuming). For contrast, in the US, it's between 100-150 gallons per person per day.

    6. Re:Why reinvent the wheel? by dsvick · · Score: 1

      That makes sense, unless of course the problem is that there is no water to be found, untreated or otherwise.

      In a lot of the places in question the problem is that they can't treat the water to being with, regardless of what they are doing with it. So a better toilet may help in making the untreated water they have to drink a little more sanitary by removing at least that source of pollution.

    7. Re:Why reinvent the wheel? by Krojack · · Score: 1

      This could make many dogs sick or just get them to stop drinking out of the toilet. =)

    8. Re:Why reinvent the wheel? by Krojack · · Score: 1

      You're not reinventing anything, just giving them what is currently being used in 1st world countries. Maybe the article should be called "Bill Gates Wants to Upgrade 3rd World Toilets to those of the Modern World"

    9. Re:Why reinvent the wheel? by HapSlappy_2222 · · Score: 1

      I've never understood that quote. We "reinvent" the wheel all the time; more lug bolts, higher strength alloys, sexier cut lines, etc.

      I suppose the quote is to point out that "round" is the best possible shape for "wheel", but there's nothing wrong with improving existing things (so long as it really is an improvement).

    10. Re:Why reinvent the wheel? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hurrrrrrr that's total water usage per capita, compared to residential water use in the slums. Try comparing residential water use to residential water use next time.

  13. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There are already a multitude of solutions available, eg. bio-friendly bags that turn poop into fertilizer and just need you dig a hole. Seems to me that if he really want to reduce disease and improve lives he should aim to develop soap which doesn't require water. or something.

    1. Re:Why? by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 1

      There are already a multitude of solutions available

      Then why are people in Monrovia Liberia shitting on the beach right now? Might it be that the problem requires a solution yet to be devised?

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    2. Re:Why? by crazyjj · · Score: 1

      The problem is that you have to be careful how you use fecal matter in a lot of rural areas, or it can end up in the water supply. It's not as simple as collecting shit in a bag and using it as fertilizer. If you're not careful where and how you use it (and how it's composted), it can wash into rivers and seep into the water table.

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    3. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because they are niggers. Same reason as people in Chicago, Illinois shit on the beach. Civilized people don't do that under any circumstances.

  14. Deja Vu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why do I feel like we've talked about this before?

    Oh, yeah. Because we have.

    1. Re:Deja Vu by Tarlus · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I wish we could moderate actual news posts as "-1 Redundant."

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    2. Re:Deja Vu by pjt33 · · Score: 2

      If they let us mod the articles most of them would be -1 Off-topic or -1 Flamebait. So they're not going to let us mod the articles.

  15. Better design for Europe by Sepodati · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can you please design one that doesn't leave shit streaked all the way down the back when you take a dump? I thought a toilet was a toilet, until I saw all the kinds they have in Europe. You have to scrub every one of them down after a dump. The worst was one that had a flat shelf to dump on and the water would wash it off. Yeah, good luck getting that loaf to wash away. What the hell? Sorry for the shitty post, but this is the topic we were presented with.

    1. Re:Better design for Europe by crazyjj · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think the toilet superiority scale goes something like this:

      Japan > U.S. (pre low-flow) > U.S. (post low-flow) > Europe > Third world

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    2. Re:Better design for Europe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Japanese toilets send it straight to a vending machine :)

    3. Re:Better design for Europe by X0563511 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The worst was one that had a flat shelf to dump on and the water would wash it off. Yeah, good luck getting that loaf to wash away. What the hell? Sorry for the shitty post, but this is the topic we were presented with.

      That's a German thing. It's intended to let you inspect it for health reasons. ... I'm shocked that I know this. What the hell!?

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    4. Re:Better design for Europe by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe so, but if I was confronted with this, I would be quite baffled. I mean, 38 buttons on a toilet control panel?

      I'm betting a lot of Western visitors find themselves with a big "what the heck do I do now" moment. :-P

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    5. Re:Better design for Europe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the problem is... you. You need to eat less, and better food.

    6. Re:Better design for Europe by Deadstick · · Score: 1

      I like the ones in Autobahn gas stations. You drop a one-euro coin in a slot to get in. When you get up, the toilet senses the loss of your weight and flushes itself; then a nozzle and a brush swing down onto the seat. The nozzle spritzes, the brush spins, the seat rotates 360 degrees, and then a dispenser gives you a receipt you can use to get your money back if you buy anything.

      But quite a few small restaurants in Paris still have "Turkish Bombsights"...

    7. Re:Better design for Europe by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe so, but if I was confronted with this, I would be quite baffled. I mean, 38 buttons on a toilet control panel?

      I'm betting a lot of Western visitors find themselves with a big "what the heck do I do now" moment. :-P

      Whatever you do, don't press the button marked "ATR". It's the Automatic Tampon Remover.

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    8. Re:Better design for Europe by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      One of the references attached to that article is hilarious: http://www.asecular.com/~scott/misc/toilet.htm

    9. Re:Better design for Europe by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hahaha, He doesn't know how to use the three seashells!

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    10. Re:Better design for Europe by dopaz · · Score: 1

      When I remodeled my bathroom I thought the replacement low-flow toilet would be a nightmare, but I ended up going with a Kohler "Highline High Efficiency Watersense" toilet. I am truly amazed at how much shit it can take. I've never had to use a plunger on it.

      A properly designed low-flow toilet *can* get "that loaf to wash away".

    11. Re:Better design for Europe by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      I would press them all!

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    12. Re:Better design for Europe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have recently replaced the old toilet with low-flow toilet. Unlike the old toilet, the jet of water is directed at the outlet and it doesn't try to waste water rinsing the bowl, it flushes pretty well. I would say it is better engineered. Mechanically the base is smaller and could be a bit tippsy for the 300+lb whales though.

      Can't say the same about the ultra low-flow (more like mist) shower heads.

      Captcha for this post: Excrete

    13. Re:Better design for Europe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a laugh. US toilets are a complete disaster and far inferior to the European ones. The main issue is that if you are a man and you do not have a tiny, tiny, tiny (extremely tiny) penis, it is very difficult to avoid either dunking your penis into the water or having it touch the forward inner wall of the bowl. That never, ever happens with a European toilet. It boggles the mind that people in the US live with this kind of shitty toilet techonology. No other advantage can make up for potentially infecting your penis with whatever everyone else has been excreting into that toilet. If you don't know what I'm talking about I'm guessing you are a woman, have a small penis or have just gotten very skilled at positioning your penis just right over a span of decades - but in the latter case I bet you still fail every once in a while. Oh, and they use much less water too, though that's far down on the list of what matters compared to 100-strangers'-shit-on-penis. (OK, I'll give you that a flat shelf out of water to dump on doesn't sound good, but I've never seen such a toilet in Europe)

    14. Re:Better design for Europe by sakari · · Score: 1

      You think ? Having used toilets in the US, they are crappy compared to the ones we have here in Finland.

      In the US (at least west coast), the bowl is really low in height, and at some places there is even this flat surface the poster above was talking about. In Finland, we have usually one uniform factor, deep enough so that the water doesn't hit your ass when dropping a solid one and small enough in area so that not all the walls get stuck with shit.

      Havent' tried the ones in Japan though, those can be superior to ours here in Finland, but definitely ours surpass those of the US versions. Come and see! :)

      Oh what a nice subject to speak about..

    15. Re:Better design for Europe by dopaz · · Score: 1

      "Germans, however, see nothing amiss. Some even dislike North American toilets. You splash yourself, they claim. For the wave to reach one's bottom, one would need to eject a hefty pellet at tremendous velocity."

      Perhaps Ze Germans poop as violently as they speak.

    16. Re:Better design for Europe by crazyjj · · Score: 1

      Push them all and strap yourself in, of course.

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    17. Re:Better design for Europe by Algae_94 · · Score: 1

      Now I know why those god awful toilets exist! All this time I though it was just to keep the shit above water level so the stink really releases into the air. I guess this would also be useful if you accidentally swallowed some raw diamonds and need to retrieve them.

    18. Re:Better design for Europe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I'm sure your elephant sized dick is 12 inches long when flaccid.

    19. Re:Better design for Europe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that would count as "third world."

    20. Re:Better design for Europe by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "That's a laugh. US toilets are a complete disaster and far inferior to the European ones. The main issue is that if you are a man and you do not have a tiny, tiny, tiny (extremely tiny) penis, it is very difficult to avoid either dunking your penis into the water or having it touch the forward inner wall of the bowl."

      Correct. You either have to order a bowl designed for public lavatories (they are typically wider and longer and the seat is "U"-shaped to get proper meat clearance. For obvious profit reasons (small, light shitters are cheaper to make and ship), most consumer US toilets aren't very good.

      The best toilets are stainless steel institutional toilets, but they are expensive new. You can find the combo toilet/sink units on Ebay, useful if you are building a very small house, cabin, etc.

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    21. Re:Better design for Europe by xaxa · · Score: 1

      I think you're generalising a whole continent ;-)

      The flat shelf toilets are sometimes seen in Germany and Austria, but nowhere else. Public toilets in France are often squat toilets, which are also common in Bulgaria.

      I've never had a problem with any European toilet, anyway. Maybe it's your diet?

      (I did find the toilets in a fancy hotel I stayed in in the US to have so much water that my penis dipped in it. That wasn't pleasant.)

    22. Re:Better design for Europe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They engineers are working on one that you never have to clean, ever. It employs a tiny singularity so nothing gets out, ever, not even light.

      The only problem is they keep can't find enough testers to finish the paperwork... er, documentation.

    23. Re:Better design for Europe by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      I think the toilet superiority scale goes something like this:

      Japan > U.S. (pre low-flow) > U.S. (post low-flow) > Europe > Third world

      Actually, modern low-flow toilets probably are superior these days to the old ones period. The old low-flows were just high-flow ones using half as much water. Basically the high-flow ones worked by brute force - dump gallons of water down and the stuff will go with it.

      Modern low-flows are better designed using hydrodynamics to assist in removal of waste, and can often do it using even *less* water than the old low-flows, while doing a much better job.

      It's like using a hose to wash the floor - the old style toilets simply flooded water all over the floor and let the dirt work itself loose and into the drains. The modern low-flows are like using a high-pressure washer to clean the floor.

    24. Re:Better design for Europe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you please design one that doesn't leave shit streaked all the way down the back when you take a dump? I thought a toilet was a toilet, until I saw all the kinds they have in Europe. You have to scrub every one of them down after a dump. The worst was one that had a flat shelf to dump on and the water would wash it off. Yeah, good luck getting that loaf to wash away. What the hell? Sorry for the shitty post, but this is the topic we were presented with.

      Your stool varies by what you eat. If your diet consists of large amounts of grain and wheat products, it has the "streaky" nature. If your diet is based on animal products, it is different.

    25. Re:Better design for Europe by pnot · · Score: 1

      I'm no big fan of the "viewing platform" toilet myself (FWIW, they're not common throughout Europe -- I've only seen them in Germany, Austria and the Netherlands). But could you explain to me how I use an American toilet without dunking my dangleberries into the water a few scant centimetres beneath the rim? European toilets (of both the German and "normal" design) have a great deal more clearance.

    26. Re:Better design for Europe by Ichijo · · Score: 1

      It helps if you close the control panel, because it hides all but 18 of the most used buttons.

      Here is a control panel in English.

      I love these things. No more abrasive or toilet-clogging toilet paper, no more klingons/dingleberries, and no more rashes when liquids come out the solids hole. (Sorry about the TMI.)

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    27. Re:Better design for Europe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like the Toto control panel from the toilet at my wife's parents' house. It's not that hard to figure out. The weird thing is that the toilet and the bathing room are on opposite sides of the house.

    28. Re:Better design for Europe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not even a +1 funny for that? I nearly spit up my hot cocoa

    29. Re:Better design for Europe by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Tell them the best part. That button is just under the ATI - Automatic Tampon Inserter, and don't worry if you don't have the place where the tampons go, it's only a problem for the first time.

    30. Re:Better design for Europe by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      I guess this would also be useful if you accidentally swallowed some raw diamonds and need to retrieve them.

      - you shouldn't eat raw diamonds, everybody knows that. You have to cook them first, they go easier.

    31. Re:Better design for Europe by Hatta · · Score: 1

      So, what exactly are they looking for in the shit, and what does it tell them? If it looks like shit, is that good or bad?

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    32. Re:Better design for Europe by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Your guess is as good as mine - and to be honest, I'd rather not learn more.

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    33. Re:Better design for Europe by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      From that article: "You splash yourself, they claim. I don't think this is possible."

      I can tell you it is very much possible. Indeed, the first thing I do when taking a crap on a non-flat toilet is to cover the water surface with toilet paper. Because that way the probability of splashing yourself is greatly reduced. Not completely eliminated, mind you.

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    34. Re:Better design for Europe by HapSlappy_2222 · · Score: 1

      Nah. I'd probably just pee on it.

      1) Open bathroom door.
      2) Unzip and yank out filled up pee spout.
      3) Pee on white thing.
      4) Giggle at the pink lady's hair all mussed up cuz she's flying about while surfing a whale's blowhole.
      5) Think about how cool it'd be if those weren't butts but boobies instead.
      6) Decide they are.
      7) Decide, also, that the sandy desert picture to the right has nothing to do with peeing, but is, instead, a ploy by the bar owner to make me thirsty while I'm peeing.
      8) Make sure nobody's about to sneak up on me and give me a hug (that really did happened once, but NEVER again. Shudder)
      9) "Diabolical" is the word that I was trying to remember to describe step 7.
      10) Realize I've been done for a minute or two and zip up, taking the utmost care I can muster not to damage the exit spout that beer comes out of (that's not all it does, ladies!)
      11) Wash hands thoroughly, like a boss even, but then wipe them on my pants without realizing it (edit by sober me: I figure that, while not super efficient, it's better than just strolling out with spout-y hands).
      12) Hope the next guy's less drunk than me, and capable of flushing that weirdo toilet with the awesome squigglies.
      13) Order a beer and a shot.

      That's how I do public restrooms, sir.

    35. Re:Better design for Europe by khallow · · Score: 1

      I suppose they're looking for parasites and such. Many parasites leave obvious traces in feces.

    36. Re:Better design for Europe by inu_maru · · Score: 1

      That explains the coffee...

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    37. Re:Better design for Europe by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      It helps if you close the control panel, because it hides all but 18 of the most used buttons.

      Yeah, sure, that is a huge improvement towards the single button I have now. With only 18 buttons I could master it after only a brief period of studying the manual and a good translator. :-P

      Ignoring your whole TMI thing (*shudder*), I'm sure they're lovely toilets. But if I ever find myself in Japan, I'm going to need to make sure someone gives me the tour first. Finding myself in one of these realizing too late I have no idea how to operate it would make for a very awkward discussion.

      Then again, once you know how to operate it, I'm sure it's hours of fun judging by the presence of words like "oscillating" and "pulsating" -- two things I've never had a toilet do for (to?) me. ;-)

      I wonder how many people get electrocuted on Japanese toilets every year?

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    38. Re:Better design for Europe by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      Yep, it seems that some of the crappier low-flow designs have not yet been weeded out and have given the whole idea a bad reputation. I just replaced a not-so-great older model that requires its own lake with a high efficiency model that smokes the old one, performance wise. I'm thrifty, but it seems to make sense to go with a name brand here and not just buy the $80 combo kit from Home Depot.

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    39. Re:Better design for Europe by Sepodati · · Score: 1

      I've seen those, too, and they were pretty nice. I think the one I saw had a button for the cleaning, instead of being automatic. The picture wasn't very clear on exactly what the button did, so of course I just pressed it to see what would happen.

    40. Re:Better design for Europe by Sepodati · · Score: 1

      I haven't been to Finland, yet. I look forward to shitting in your country, though, from the sounds of it.

    41. Re:Better design for Europe by Reziac · · Score: 1

      That's cuz in America, it's three *corncobs*.

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  16. Reminds me of a story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There was an item long ago where one of our troops (possibly as part of a UN peacekeeping or rescue effort) was deployed in an impoverished place, and he pointed out a simple everyday 'creature comfort' thing we take for granted: What do they do for toilet paper? Although it seemed such a callous reaction at first, it seemed he was right on the money after all. Clean water, hygiene, good health...everything follows. It would take a man like Bill Gates to jumpstart the program. Thank $DEITY he's retired and can look at other essential things beyond the desktop.

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    1. Re:Reminds me of a story by crazyjj · · Score: 1

      Oh man, try going to rural China sometime. You're lucky to get a hole in the floor and don't even THINK about getting toilet paper.

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  17. Good for him by crazyjj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know the typical /. response is to either make a "Windows Sucks!" crack or to launch into some conspiracy theory about how this is part of some secret agenda to foist MS-brand proprietary toilets on the world. But I'm going to applaud his efforts instead.

    But if you have to have a crack, here's one: This beats the crap out of anything Steve Jobs ever did for the third world.

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    1. Re:Good for him by thomasw_lrd · · Score: 1

      But Almighty Steve gave them Jobs building all the iDevices. This was an area that they were lacking in before.

    2. Re:Good for him by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      I agree, jobs are much better than hand holding.

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    3. Re:Good for him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      This beats the crap out of anything Steve Jobs ever did for the third world.

      Not so. Jobs did a lot to help the overpopulation problem in Foxcon factories...

    4. Re:Good for him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This beats the crap out of anything Steve Jobs ever did

      Gates still hasn't released the first version of his device, and you're asking for interoperability with Apple?

    5. Re:Good for him by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      I don't count China as 'third world', so the jobs that went there are in the first world, so in that regard you are right.

      But Steve Jobs presented so much competition in the mobile phone and computer market that he is probably personally responsible for more choices and lower prices in mobile phones, and guess what, in the 'third world' there are more mobile phones than land lines, that's certain.

    6. Re:Good for him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      China is not the third world. As bad as conditions may be for Chinese workers, they're generally not starving or lacking in running water.

    7. Re:Good for him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      China is considered second world, not first.

      But you're right, they are far from third world.

    8. Re:Good for him by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and who sets the standard for what is 'first' what is 'third' or 'second' world? It's very convenient that the standard is set by those, who consider themselves to be the 'first', isn't it?

      AFAIC China is the 1st world, they are the people who make shit that everybody else wants to buy and everybody else who buys from them but only supplies them with currencies is not even in the first 3 categories.

    9. Re:Good for him by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      And... Windows sucks.

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    10. Re:Good for him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This could indeed be good, about time. However perhaps you could in the name of objectivity read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gates_foundation#Criticism

      Jobs held great power and showed no responsibility. I'm glad he's gone.

    11. Re:Good for him by Politburo · · Score: 1

      It is an old system based on the cold war, not really relevant today but it has stuck around. 1st world: US/UK/Western Europe, 2nd world: USSR/China/Eastern Europe, 3rd world: everyone else. Since a lot of the 'everyone else' was lesser developed countries, the term 'third world' has come to represent that status.

  18. Fertilizer by lobiusmoop · · Score: 1

    The best use for human excrement is fertilizer really - high phosphorous and nitrogen content, ideal for the fields. It's certainly more environmentally friendly than fossil-fuel based fertilizers (and not just in the third world either).

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    1. Re:Fertilizer by h4rr4r · · Score: 2

      Great way to spread disease too!

      Without proper composting or another method of heating it to kill all the nasties using excrement as fertilizer just continues to current problem of spreading disease.

    2. Re:Fertilizer by idontgno · · Score: 5, Informative

      Night soil, un-composed, is a health risk because pathogens are returned un-treated to the food production cycle. Composting it into "humanure" is a good way to regain the nutrient value in a local closed system while reducing artificial fertilization inputs.

      Composting toilets exist, so I'm not really sure what role Gates would have, except maybe simplifying design and streamlining manufacturing and distribution so that they can become cheap and common in the areas of interest. Or else using some other technique besides composting for sanitization.... but that would require some kind of energy source to Pasteurize the waste. Hard to beat just letting composting microorganisms crank up the heat using just the nutrients in the waste.

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    3. Re:Fertilizer by lobiusmoop · · Score: 1

      How about burning? I know dried animal dung is used for cooking, maybe the same could apply with dried human waste? The resulting ash would still be high in N and P and of course pathogen-free.

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    4. Re:Fertilizer by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      except maybe simplifying design and streamlining manufacturing and distribution so that they can become cheap and common in the areas of interest.

      I know some of us here have an understanding of economics, but the above sentence underscores the ignorance through which our society is making decisions. Streamlining manufacturing and distribution is not going to make a product cheap and common. Only when people are willing to purchase these products in large amounts will they become "cheap." If it satisfies a need, MANY people demand it, and are willing to pay an appropriate price, will it eventually become cheap through. Streamlining is a natural occurrence in a demand economy, only when the above mentioned requirements are satisfied.

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    5. Re:Fertilizer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>> I'm not really sure what role Gates would have,

      Collecting royalties every time they want to take a dump?

      May be Microsoft toilet requires Windows OS up the ass of the user too.

    6. Re:Fertilizer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you need to reevaluate your post as it applies to the topic of philanthropic efforts of Bill Gates.

    7. Re:Fertilizer by Carnildo · · Score: 1

      The composting toilets I'm familiar with stink to high heaven unless they're installed, maintained, and used properly. If Gates can come up with one that can be installed by the lowest bidder, survive twenty years' use by someone who treats it as a simple pit toilet, and keeps working even when household waste is dumped in, without increasing the disease risk or smelling like an open sewer, it's worth doing.

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    8. Re:Fertilizer by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      the places these will be used people just shit in the street, or shit inside and dump it in the street. smell really would not be an issue as long as it can remain robust and safe with little skilled maintenance

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  19. Good for Bill. And: read "The Big Necessity." by dpbsmith · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is great and I applaud and respect him for doing this. After you get done cracking jokes, go read The Big Necessity by Rose George. I never fully understood just how privileged we are.

    "2.6 billion people don't have sanitation. I don't mean that they have no toilet in their house and must use a public one with queues and fees. Or that they have an outhouse, or a rickety shack that empties into a filthy drain or pigsty. All that counts as sanitation, though not a safe variety. The people who have those are the fortunate ones. Four in ten people have no access to any latrine, toilet, bucket, or box. Instead, they defecate by train tracks and in forests. They do it in plastic bags and fling them through the air in narrow slum alleyways.... Four in ten people live in situations where they are surrounded by human excrement because it is in the bushes outside the village or in the city yards, left by children outside the backdoor...

    In 2007, readers of the British Medical Journal were asked to vote for the biggest medical milestone of the last two hundred years. Their choice was wide: antibiotics, penicillin, anesthesia, The Pill. They chose sanitation."

    1. Re:Good for Bill. And: read "The Big Necessity." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isnt this a problem of extreme poverty? Those countries have the capability to make cheap toilets, just that the people are so poor that they can't afford it. So what they need is money to help making those cheap toilets and money to buy a plot of land they can put up these toilets in. Re-inventing the toilet is really not needed here. The money spent on R&D into this toilets can easily be used to create such toilets.

    2. Re:Good for Bill. And: read "The Big Necessity." by fermion · · Score: 0
      Sanitation is important, but there are several levels herre. First is access to plumbing and sewers. These are political. Plumbing and sewers are necessary for cities. If a family were on a few acres, a water pump and septic tank or outhouse would do. However cities require sanitation. This could be done by public toilets, as the ancient greeks did, or by private facilities as the developed world is so fond of. In the US we are very private, and therefore have no public facilities anywhere, i.e. customers only.

      But back to the point. It is politics. Either the money is spent to put proper plumbing in a city or it is not. The important thing about plumbing is to keep the human waste from running down the open streets and into the freshwater. Toilets, no matter how fancy, are not going to keep this from happening without some sort of well funded and locally support policity.

      Second, people have to use the toilets. This means that whatever facilities that are used has to be placed so that people will make use pf them and there has be regulations and policies in place to enforce them. When conservatives speak of the big bad government, I often complain that the evil government has put in place laws to force me to pay 10% more for my home, all in the name of social engineering to insure otherwise useless industries are propped up and allowed to make huge profits at the private citizens expense. What I mean, of course, if that I have no choice about the facilites I choose to place in my private home. I have to have a bathroom. I do not have the choice to take a dump outside, I have to pay for goverment mandated plumbing. Which is what we are talking about here. Forming social policies that say, presuming that every house in a village does not have a toilet, that someone has to walk half a mile instead of just using the alley.

      Which is not to say that these toilets are not useful. Toilets that generate electricity would be useful, as many places do not have electricity, but such toilets would have to bought and maintained. As far as water free toilets, these exist in terms of composting toilets. What I see here is the difference between philanthropy and charity. In philanthropy a person with money decides a solution for a improvised group of people. Sometimes these solutions are good, sometimes they just promote a political or philosophical agenda. Charity is where we give money to locals person, sometimes with control on how they can use it, and allow them to develop local solutions that will work for their constraints. In the developed world do we need toilets t hat use less water? Yes, Is that a primary concern in a place that has no toilets at all? Maybe that is keeping people from having toilets, or maybe it is just a lack of priorities.It is like students who have a new pair of jordans but no pencil. Giving them a pencil will help them learn but not solve the problem.

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    3. Re:Good for Bill. And: read "The Big Necessity." by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      How is this flame-bait? Oh...this is /. You can't foist things on people or compel them to do something. Create the environment in which they want to do it themselves and strive towards it. The central planners have failed and will continue to fail. There is one philosophy which intends to force man to be good, and another which realizes there are faults and tries to promote a system which plays on those faults to create the best of all possible worlds. Which is smarter? Which has a chance of success? The answer: the latter. The latter system is the one you have always lived under so you don't know any different, only excess. This system is the one which lets you little troll shits sit back in comfort, stuff your face, and click flame-bait when you don't agree. I wouldn't trade it for any other.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOMksnSaAJ4
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ZPg6kOBkc
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KHdhrNhh88

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  20. Why do toilets break? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've often wondered why, compared to other harware in the home, toilets are so unrealiable. I've never had to replace a door. I've had to replace a sink once. But the toilet needs constant repairs. Why? What is the design flaw in toilets?

    1. Re:Why do toilets break? by Teresita · · Score: 1

      One sheet of single ply ought to be enough for everybody.

    2. Re:Why do toilets break? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Constant?

      I've moved many times and I think that sometimes you just get a lemon. Most give little to no trouble, maybe needing some new part once every few years. Some are constant trouble and never really work properly.

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  21. Shells... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I think he'll probably inventing a system that involves shells. Sylvester Stallone will be angry.

  22. Videos here by itwbennett · · Score: 1

    You can see a video of Gates's presentation and an up-close video of toilet 2.0 here: http://www.itworld.com/windows/289818/bill-gates-wants-better-toilet-insert-joke-here

  23. This story has already been posted before. by dingo_kinznerhook · · Score: 1
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    1. Re:This story has already been posted before. by dingo_kinznerhook · · Score: 1

      And I didn't mean to be redundantly redundant. Title should read "This story has been posted before."

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    2. Re:This story has already been posted before. by neminem · · Score: 1

      Before I looked at the date of the post you linked to, I thought you were joking about the "minor differences", and were instead going to have linked to something like this: http://slashdot.org/story/03/05/02/188215/microsoft-rolls-out-iloo

      Cause that's what -I- thought of, when I saw the thread title: "maybe he decided it was a good idea after all?"

  24. Buy one today by Chemisor · · Score: 0

    We already "reinvented" the toilet. It's called the composting toilet. You can buy it on amazon, or find plans on google and make one yourself. Now, if more people would buy them, mass production could get the cost down. The SunMar one must be assembled by hand or something, with the price as high as it is.

    1. Re:Buy one today by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      Why would I want to deal with this instead of using the normal toilet? Assuming I still have access to the normal unit.

    2. Re:Buy one today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, just what the developing world needs! A toilet that is so expensive ($1700!) that it actually makes more sense to buy a flush toilet that costs $50 and spend the 20 bucks or so a year it will cost in water bills for the rest of your life, even if that 20 bucks is more money than you will make in a month.

      BRILLIANT!

      We already "reinvented" the toilet. It's called the composting toilet. You can buy it on amazon, or find plans on google and make one yourself. Now, if more people would buy them, mass production could get the cost down. The SunMar one must be assembled by hand or something, with the price as high as it is.

  25. Kudos to Bill... by wermske · · Score: 4, Interesting
    When and where humans gather, their waste accumulates. If this waste is not appropriately (safely) disposed of the health and general wellfare of society suffers. According to WHO/UNICEF, water and waste-related diseases are killing millions of people each year and preventing millions more from contributing to society through reduced health and productivity.

    2.5 billion people live without the "minimum necessary" sanitation services. Access to safe, clean and effective human urine and feces disposal facilities is the most basic definition of sanitation. Improvements sanitation and hygiene has demonstrated positive effects on health. Unfortunately, many people are denied access to sanitation technology and/or infrastructure and thus lack the means of disposing of their waste. The challenge scales with population and can reach critical mass of non-functionality in areas of high population density in developing countries.

    There is no single solution. The answer to the challenge requires management of fresh water and access to sanitation technology that mitigates today's risks while scaling with a determined uplift of infrastructure. This kind of massive-scale civil and social architecture requires great resources (fiscal, intellectual, and moral) directed in a continual and strategic ways. I believe Bill, Warren, and others are well positioned to drive success in this area...

  26. based on his record by frovingslosh · · Score: 0

    Just what the world needs, a toilet that clogs up and over flows twice a day. No wonder this man is one of the richest in the world. At least its not something that is the basis of the productivity of the country this time.

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    1. Re:based on his record by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're an idiot, and you know nothing about what the Gates' and their foundation has already done for the world.

      Why wasn't parent modded to oblivion?

    2. Re:based on his record by aybiss · · Score: 1

      Because nobody believes for a second they've done enough to compensate for the massive drag on humanity of billions of wasted man-hours since they released Office.

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  27. "Green" toilets sometimes have problems... by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 5, Interesting
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    1. Re:"Green" toilets sometimes have problems... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      Hey...I guess anything is better than shitting in a hole in the ground, eh?

      [We were evicted from our hole in the ground....]

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    2. Re:"Green" toilets sometimes have problems... by Alain+Williams · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Better to try and fail than to never try at all. They can always have another go.

    3. Re:"Green" toilets sometimes have problems... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah waterless toilets were an idea that was asking for it. I'm amazed at the amount of unbridled optimism it took to see the idea through to deployment though, if only it could be applied to better ideas...

      The easiest gains are to be had in gray water flushing + better high-efficiency designs.

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    4. Re:"Green" toilets sometimes have problems... by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      [We were evicted from our hole in the ground....]

      That's what happens when you shit on the floor.

    5. Re:"Green" toilets sometimes have problems... by TubeSteak · · Score: 1
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    6. Re:"Green" toilets sometimes have problems... by crazyjj · · Score: 4, Funny

      They can always have another go.

      So, go number 2?

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    7. Re:"Green" toilets sometimes have problems... by bhcompy · · Score: 2

      He's talking about third world places. No running water or unreliable running water. Gray water doesn't really apply.

    8. Re:"Green" toilets sometimes have problems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...but sometimes they work well for the right use...

      We installed a Sun-Mar CENTREX 2000 A/F NE at our summer camp, which has no running water or electricity. We built a separate outhouse for it, though, because we knew that there would be some smell. It's MUCH better than the old outhouse that we used to use (i.e. hole in the ground). Also, we haven't experienced any of the issues that they did with the Stockholm toilets, but then again, our usage is much less and is seasonal.

    9. Re:"Green" toilets sometimes have problems... by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 1

      Apparently, toilets that require modern-world standards of piping,maintenance and general house building don't work out in the boonies. Who would have thought.

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    10. Re:"Green" toilets sometimes have problems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, luxury! We never had a hole...

    11. Re:"Green" toilets sometimes have problems... by similar_name · · Score: 1

      In an area with limited water and a lack of resources to build a sewage system it may be a different story. I would argue that while water/treatment is preferable to an eco-toilet, an eco-toilet may be preferable to a bucket/ditch. There is also a subtle difference of goals between building a toilet for the environment and building one to be the most sanitary with the resources you have.

    12. Re:"Green" toilets sometimes have problems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HAHAHAHA how is this not +5 funny???

    13. Re:"Green" toilets sometimes have problems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Objection/correction, that is the province of INNER Mongolia in the PRC.
      Outer Mongolia, or just Mongolia, is eagerly awaiting the results of Bill's endeavours.

    14. Re:"Green" toilets sometimes have problems... by DedTV · · Score: 1

      Most of the designs create their own grey water and use it to help process the solid waste.

  28. Didnt do already do that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With Windows? All Windows users are potty trained now.

  29. More important: energy efficient air conditioning by mveloso · · Score: 0

    Toilets are great. Poor sanitation has arguably killed more people than wars.

    That said, cheap, energy efficient air conditioning should be next on the list. AC is practically required for any kind of modern economy. Building a low-power AC would benefit millions - and reduce the amount of power infrastructure needed in developing countries, which in general would be a good thing.

  30. I can't resist... by Omega+Hacker · · Score: 2

    He's looking for somewhere to put Windows 8. Normal toilets that sufficed for previous versions of Windows just aren't capable of handling Metro. God help you if you run across one of these new toilets and don't know where to "Start".....

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  31. Licensing fee by na1led · · Score: 2

    What will the licensing fee be, to use this new toilet?

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    1. Re:Licensing fee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What will the licensing fee be, to use this new toilet?

      By performing a log in, you agree to these terms...

    2. Re:Licensing fee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All your shit are belong to us!

  32. But most of "flushed" water is recovered by PeterM+from+Berkeley · · Score: 1

    There's a difference between "consumed" water and "flushed" water.

    Water that you use in your house and return to the sewers can be cleaned and re-used.

    Water that you put on your plants or waste on golf courses evaporates and is consumed.

    A new toilet attacks the small part of the problem: the flushed water that is reused. Instead, Bill should focus on reducing water consumption.

    --PM

    1. Re:But most of "flushed" water is recovered by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Cleaning water to drinking standard, then cleaning sewage to dumping-in-the-river standard require time, land, energy and chemicals, even if the water does go back where it came from (mostly) eventually. I many places in the world they simply don't have the water or infrastructure to distribute it, so there isn't any flushing anyway.

  33. patents? open source? by quantic_oscillation7 · · Score: 1

    does it have some patents? will it be open sourced so everyone could extend it?

    or as usual it's just another way to make a buck by selling it to 3rd world countries?

  34. Not Microsoft's first forray into toilets by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 3, Interesting
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    1. Re:Not Microsoft's first forray into toilets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It predates this by a long shot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows

    2. Re:Not Microsoft's first forray into toilets by zill · · Score: 1

      iLoo

      Lawsuit incoming in 5..4..3..

  35. Good job? by mwfischer · · Score: 1

    He might be a tactical genius and raped computing for a few generations of humanity, but at least Commodore Gates is trying to make mends with the planet by doing good deeds.

  36. The next Thomas Crapper? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe 100 years from now, people will talk about "Flushing the Gates."

  37. Perfect guy for the job by gnu-sucks · · Score: 1

    ...given his legacy with windows.

  38. Windows toilet commands by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sure it'll have "Are you sure you want to flush?" on the tank instead of a handle. It might also have "Advanced" options like a water volume slider bar, the ability to schedule an automatic cleaning, & maybe even a fancy sound when flushing(AKA.The Windows start-up/shutdown sound). Of course, there'll be drawbacks, like becoming unusable while receiving updates, it will be vulnerable to viruses(real & code), & finally can you imagine having to De-frag "Windows Commode"

  39. They censored my comment by nukenerd · · Score: 1, Interesting
    A few minutes ago I placed a comment (apparently the first) on the linked website (International Business Times) which was not 100% worship of the God Gates. It appeared, but when I checked a few minutes later it had gone. They seem very touchy.

    I thought my comment was perfectly reasonable. Here it is :-

    Gates said :- "The flush toilets we use in the wealthy world are irrelevant, impractical and impossible for 40 percent of the global population, because they often don't have access to water, and sewers, electricity, and sewage treatment systems."

    Why does a flush toilet need electricity? Mine doesn't; moreover, although I live in a wealthy rural part of the UK I have no main sewer connection. The toilet flushes to my own septic tank where the stuff decomposes - it is little more than a masonery tank set below the ground and looks after itself apart from my getting the solids pumped out once a year. It isn't rocket science.

    It uses water, but doesn't most of the World's population live near water? Far more than 60% I'd wager. It does not need to be drinkable. Yes, there are regions that do not, but we have plenty of it in the UK, so no thanks Gates, this "wealthier country" does not need to your stinking toilets to conserve water. Take your concerns elsewhere.

    1. Re:They censored my comment by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 2

      Your comment was not censored, it's on the article, and I'm glad to see you showing yourself here so that I can mock you.

      He isn't pushing for a better design of toilet for the UK. He's pushing for a better design of toilet in the developing world.

      And yes, your sanitation system does need electricity because your crap (including the stuff you're talking) goes to a waste treatment plant that depends on electrically driven machinery to operate. It doesn't just sit in your septic tank and decompose, by your own admission septic tanks have to be emptied at regular intervals by men in tanker lorries.

      And a lot of people in the developing world don't live near water, so your randomly-generated 60% figure is irrelevant.

      Now go back and read the article properly this time before posting further retarded comments and making a complete and utter dick of yourself.

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    2. Re:They censored my comment by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      The toilet might not need electricity, but certainly modern sanitation systems do. Typically there are pumps both in the water supply and the sewage disposal system, be it a septic tank or a more sophisticated "city water" type system.

      FWIW, I saw this for myself living in Florida's Treasure Coast during the twin hurricanes of 2005. With most homes out of power for more than a week, several friends, neighbors, and colleagues started to have problems with sewage backing up, thanks to pumps that most of us had never even heard of until the event.

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    3. Re:They censored my comment by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      Your comment was not censored, it's on the article.

      Yes, it has now re-appeared.

      He isn't pushing for a better design of toilet for the UK. He's pushing for a better design of toilet in the developing world.

      ...but ....

      Gates said. "Inventing new toilets is one of the most important things we can do .... It is also something that can help wealthier countries conserve fresh water for other important purposes besides flushing."

      I see "wealthier countries" there, not just developing world.

      And a lot of people in the developing world don't live near water, so your randomly-generated 60% figure is irrelevant.

      It was not randomly generated. It was Gates (in TFA that you urge me to read) who said that 40% do not have access to water. I was wagering that far more than 60% do, (100-40 being 60). Just take a look at an atlas to see where the concentrations are.

      Here in the UK there is no shortage of water for flushing, but there is a hippy/green element who want us to give up flushing for political reasons - to bring it home that some parts of the world are short of water. Like Mussolini getting the air-raid sirens to sound in Rome every time there was a raid on Germany, just to remind the Italian people there was a war on. {Hope that does not infringe Godwin]

      Just to be clear, I am not against developing waterless toilets for arid regions, as I have stated in a further post on the IBT site.

  40. Why not a closed loop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would be simpler to filter and reuse the same water in the system rather than drawing on fresh supplies.

  41. Lessons to be learned [Re:Why?] by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are already a multitude of solutions available, eg. bio-friendly bags that turn poop into fertilizer and just need you dig a hole.

    And the "multitude of solutions available" don't always work.

    Here's a "lessons learned" article on the Daxing Ecological Community toilet experience; hope the Gates foundation is willling to learn from other peoples' failures: http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/show/single/en/5068-Eco-toilet-scheme-ends-in-failure

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    1. Re:Lessons to be learned [Re:Why?] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      those were some good links!

  42. Africa by Thelasko · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have a friend working on water quality in Saharan Africa. She sent me this picture which I find hilarious. However, it's true. There are parts of the world where there is barely enough water to drink, let alone crap in. I think it's a noble cause.

    Also, this story is a dupe.

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  43. Re:More important: energy efficient air conditioni by kesuki · · Score: 1

    there is a cheap ac system it's called an ammonia absorption unit. the downside? it's extremely toxic in usable concentrations. the plus side? it can cool a room to -20 F(or below) in 100 F weather. if you eat meat it is ammonia cooled.

  44. Goodyear makes tires, not wheels by Chirs · · Score: 1

    get it right. :)

  45. low flow superior by Chirs · · Score: 1

    Most of the pre-low-flow toilets just waste all the water rather than putting it to good use actually flushing stuff. I have a 4.8 liter (1.26 gallon) toilet that is designed well and it does a great job--big tank for water pressure, big valve between tank and bowl, it just doesn't drain the whole tank on every flush.

  46. butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I don't want to pay licenses for my toilets.

  47. TrapWire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So the US will have global face recognition in toilets too?

    http://anonpr.net/trapwire-928/

  48. use your left hand for wiping by Chirs · · Score: 1

    The typical behaviour where I lived was to use your left hand for wiping, your right hand for touching food, shaking hands, etc.

  49. Re:More important: energy efficient air conditioni by Deadstick · · Score: 1

    Toilets are great. Poor sanitation has arguably killed more people than wars.

    ...and through most of history, wars have done most of their killing by means of poor sanitation.

  50. never had a toilet break by Chirs · · Score: 1

    What are you doing to yours? I replace some 30-year-old toilets because they used far too much water, not because they stopped working.

  51. Here's some ancient toilet tech by Wansu · · Score: 1
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  52. you're first-world biased by Chirs · · Score: 1

    I lived in a place in Congo where for most of the year water was carried (by human power) several hundred vertical feet up from the river. People did not have enough money for masonry on their houses, much less for underground septic tanks, and there is nobody around to pump out solids later.

    Incidentally, the electricity would likely be for an electric incinerating toilet--a reasonable option if you have no running water but do have power.

  53. Tribute? by RevSpaminator · · Score: 1

    This must be Bill's tribute to the 50 year anniversary of the Seattle World's Fair.

  54. Just wait till by kawabago · · Score: 0

    Windows 8 SP1 locks the doors so no one can poop without a valid license on their smart phone. All of Bill Gates supposedly good works are always tied back to Microsoft some way. It's not generosity, it's advertising.

  55. Please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    no time to read all comments...has anyone referenced the After Y2K comic?

  56. Re:Reinvent the toilet by jd2112 · · Score: 2

    And I thought that's what the Windows 8 team was already doing!

    Not the toilet, just it's intended contents.

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  57. Wait, what?!? by CCarrot · · Score: 1

    I thought he already did that! It sure functioned like one, at any rate...

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  58. More astroturfing, ... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    ... for Bill Gates. I wonder how much Mr. Gates' PR firm paid to have this article placed here?

  59. Re:More important: energy efficient air conditioni by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AC is a first world problem. Europe can have summers like TX but you don't here them whining on about it. Build your buildings properly, from solid materials, insulate them, use reflective roofing materials. Only the US uses wood to "build" houses, and then wonders why the power bill is $200 to $400 a month depending on the time of year.

  60. Death and disease... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..are a sign that you have more people than an area can sustain. Why does the western world insist on artificially supporting these populations well past the point of disaster? All it does is inflate the population, and then some other malady will come along and cause far more suffering than if nature had run it's course from the get go.

  61. Given his history with Windows... by dogganos · · Score: 1

    ... a toilet with bugs... now that's disgusting!

  62. The reason? by mooingyak · · Score: 3, Funny

    Because he's not happy with the way shit's going.

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    1. Re:The reason? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not Sure is on the case!

  63. FAO mods by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

    The "Windows 8 belongs in the toilet" joke was funny the first time, but please do not allow this thread to be polluted by a billion repetitions of it when we're discussing such a serious issue. The "redundant" tag is there, please use it. I had to do a considerable amount of scrolling to find some legitimate, informative and relevant discussion.

    Honestly, I think the karma system for "funny" posts needs to be re-examined. The karma whores trying to be comedians are making /. less informative by the day.

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  64. Was tired of putting crap through his Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He probably was tired of throwing all this crap through his Windows and decided a toilet was a better place.

    Wouuuuaaaaaaahhhhh!

  65. Wow, talk about your current news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gates talked about this years ago. Nice way to keep up slashdot.

    Besides, he already created the perfect toilet multiple times. Windows ME, windows vista, windows 8.

  66. Now I know what inspired his Foundation by hackertourist · · Score: 1

    One of the last episodes of the West Wing:

    Hollis: I'm starting a foundation, because if I hold onto all this money, I start to look impolite. I want to find a single problem I can attack, something which might actually have some kind of substantive effect. Maybe I should be fighting AIDS in Africa. Maybe it's malaria. Could be clean air or election reform. I don't know. But my sense is that you would have a unique perspective on what that could be and how to make it happen.

    CJ Cregg: A single problem.

    Hollis: It's a complicated question...

    CJ Cregg: Highways... is what you're looking for.

    Hollis: Really? It's not sexy.

    CJ Cregg: No one will ever raise money for it. But nine out of ten African aid projects fail because the medicine or the personnel can't get to the people in need. Infrastructure's the problem. Blanket the continent with highways, and then maybe get started on plumbing.

    (later on, CJ refers to this conversation as "Frank Hollis wants to give me ten billion dollars to fix the world")

  67. woohoo by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    the man responsible for bringing software to the masses

    Wants to bring new toilets to the asses! :-)

    I make rhyme!

  68. Jokes aside.... by erp_consultant · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Bill Gates has a lot of critics, myself included, but I think he deserves at least some credit for trying to improve the lives of the world's poorest people. Much of the famine and disease in Africa is caused by lack of water, both drinking and irrigation. It seems to me that if someone can come up with a waterless toilet it would be helpful. Perhaps the end product can be used to fertilize crops? Gates represents a new breed of philanthropists. The old way was to just write a big check to some charity and trust that they spend the money efficiently and in the way you want it spent. I have worked for non-profits and I can say that the ones I worked for were very inefficient...along the lines of government agencies (yes, I've worked for them too). They mean well and have noble causes but there is a lot of waste. Gates wants a direct hand in the money he donates so that it will get spent in the way he wants and the recipients will be made to show some progress. Frankly, I don't see a problem with that, given the vast amounts of money he has pledged. Some of the ideas will work and others will not but nobody will know unless they try.

    1. Re:Jokes aside.... by roman_mir · · Score: 2

      Much of the famine and disease in Africa is caused by lack of water, both drinking and irrigation

      - that's not it. Much of the famine and disease in Africa is caused by lack of freedom and by dictatorial governments that conspire with the largest powers on this planet to extract resources from Africa and the locals are just standing in the way, so they are treated like dirt by all.

      Then the Chinese come and they do business deals, so instead of 'foreign aid' they bring businesses, investment, jobs. They are there to do business, to get those same resources, but instead of bringing 'free money' (that really ends up in the pockets of the dictators), they bring trade, investments, jobs.

      50 years of foreign aid to Africa from the West (USA mostly) and what did they get for it? Ask an African who has a better image, who is better to deal with, an American or a Chinese?

      There is a reason that Hillary Clinton was giving that speech in Africa, yeah, yeah, be with us, the USA, not with the Chinese, they have 'nefarious reasons and business practices', sure, sure.

    2. Re:Jokes aside.... by westlake · · Score: 1

      The old way was to just write a big check to some charity and trust that they spend the money efficiently and in the way you want it spent.

      The old way was shaped by philantrophists like Andrew Carnegie (libraries) and Julius Rosewald (the Rosenwald Schools for the "colored' in the segrgated American south).

      The beneficiaries had to make a serious, long-term, commitment of their own money, time and labor to receive funding.

  69. Brown Screen of Death by Prien715 · · Score: 1

    User: Ahhhh, time to get down to business.
    Toilet: Performing firmware upgrade to version 9.1442. Your toilet will restart in 10 seconds. Please do not use the toilet while it is in the process of powering up or down.
    U: What? God, I need to...::bathroom sounds::
    T: An error has ocurred in module processDump32.dll [0xF4127]. If this problem continues, please contact your hardware manufacturer. System flush will occur in 3..2..1
    U: System what? ::User bursts out of toilet wearing...well...poop::
    T: Would you like to sign up for a brief customer satisfaction survey? Your input is invaluable in helping us design and create new products. Thank you for using Microsoft, where quality is our number one priority.

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  70. Green Loo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I already have a new, green, California-approved, low-flow, small-reservoir toilet.

    It works great — if you flush it six or seven times. The current record is 14.

    And, like Windows, it crashes frequently (handle, chain, float, flapper valve).

  71. Old technology, already done in the 1970's by wrwetzel · · Score: 1
    I worked on a related project in the 1970's.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrwetzel/7585494254/in/set-72157630609076830

    In the words of the product description:

    The iJohn digitizes both liquid and solid waste products and sends them electronically to a central facility for processing and disposal. Because of the high level of redundancy in the waste stream it can be compressed to a small fraction of its original size resulting in transport costs far lower than with traditional methods. And because the waste products are in digital form they can be easily routed to alternate destinations based on available capacity, labor costs, and the regulatory environment.

  72. The all new M-Flush! by ALeader71 · · Score: 1

    The first toilet that requires regular updates and is incompatible with your butt!

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  73. so slashdot by nimbius · · Score: 1

    where do you want to go today?

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  74. Why can't third worlders invent this for themselve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do they need to rely on 'old whitey' to bail them out? Are they so stupid that they can't even invent a working toilet? YES.

    Warning: the following site contains graphic images of the filth and disease surrounding the 'holy' Ganges river in India...

    http://www.chinasmack.com/2010/pictures/filthy-india-photos-chinese-netizen-reactions.html

  75. And slashdot follows suit! by geminidomino · · Score: 1

    Reinventing the Same story a year later...

  76. What about ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... an outhouse? The environmental issues are largely a matter of education (don't put one next to the town well).

    People have been crapping for millennia. This ain't rocket science.

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  77. He is doing it for Steve Ballmer by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    He needs something for Steve Ballmer will use instead of throwing his feces at people.

  78. Imagine it's beer by fritsd · · Score: 1

    Why would I want to deal with this instead of using the normal toilet? Assuming I still have access to the normal unit.

    Chances are, that what you call a "normal toilet", is a device which uses 8 liters of flocculated, sedimented, filtered, disinfected, aerated potable water, and then you use this valuable liquid to flush your poo from location A to location B.

    In 100 years, kids will be horrified to learn about our "normal toilets", I'd want to bet.

    As a "gedankenexperiment", just imagine that you flush your toilet with beer every time you have had a poo, and when someone asks you in a horrified way "why the hell did you mix that beer with your poo and then threw it away down the drain", and you answer is "well, it's obvious; if you leave the poo in the toilet, it starts to smell bad and attract flies, so naturally we must flush it away with the beer!".
    The kids in 100 years must think that we were very rich, to live like this.

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    1. Re:Imagine it's beer by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      I think this would be a wonderful use of American Lager made by our big brewers. That would save a lot of water.

      In 100 years, we will be using the same system to flush toilets. The Romans had a similar system, why would another 100 years change that?

      You speak English the way I speak German, using the grammer of the opposite language.

  79. San Francisco by istartedi · · Score: 1

    Great links. The ordos story reminds me of San Francisco's problems

    On a recent visit to San Francisco, I was struck by the smell of sewage along the Embarcadero. This was my first experience with something I had only heard about on the news.

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  80. Bog standard.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Either the wee man has gone totally potty or he is so flushed with success that he needs to throw more money down the drain. Not one to take the piss I have to say that something stinks about this and the answer may be in the wind. First Microsoft then the Gates Foundation this is his turd attempt at success. Lets hope it isn't just a flash in the pan or gets bogged down with red tape.

  81. Looming environmental disaster by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 1

    I can see it now. Once Bill releases his toilet he'll try to kill off all the trees and bushes on the planet to prevent people for opting for the "Free and Open" alternative.

    Cheers,
    Dave

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  82. Part of a bigger plan by canadiannomad · · Score: 1

    I think this is part of a bigger plan to replace first world toilets and harvest the old ones to send to third world areas that really could use some better sanitation.

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  83. When he figures it out, bring it back here by istartedi · · Score: 1

    There are many facilities in public parks that stink to high heaven and attract flies. See also, my other post to this story regarding San Francisco's low flow water problem. People interested in using alternative systems in rural areas are prevented by law from doing so in California, or levied with heavier fees from governments. In particular, Santa Cruz County will charge you annual inspection fees for alternative systems, assuming you can get approval at all. This causes people to "go guerilla" in a lot of areas. As is often the case, the real problems are political and social, not technical. When Mr. Gates solves these problems in the "3rd world", maybe he can bring the solutions home.

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  84. Does it have Clippy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see you're taking a dump, would you like some help with that ?

  85. No TP sign by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wasn't it Bill's house that had a toilet with ``No TP'' sign?

  86. It's called Windows 8 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...'nuff said.

  87. Vaporware by Tom · · Score: 1

    Like all things Bill Gates - I'll believe it when I see it and not a second sooner.

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  88. Reinvent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this like Samsung reinventing the iPhone or iPhone reinventing the Sony phone?

  89. So Full of Shit is He by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perfect man for the job.

  90. Where does all the shit go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The problem with conserving water there will not be enough fluid for all this shiite to be carried away to its final destination. This will clog sewer pipes and make a big stinky mess.

    Rather than genetically modifying corn, soybeans and misquitos to introduce a retrovirus to insert drag resistance agent (DRA) codes into the human genome to counter the secondary effects of water effecient toilets it might be worth considering modifing a fleet of roombas to collect everyones shit and fertilize large fields of monsanto demon terminator frankin crop instead.

  91. Microsoft Turd by ItsJustAPseudonym · · Score: 1

    Nuff said.

  92. Getting Behind the Gates. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm behind you Bill, 100%

    Just don't expect me to wipe.

  93. To the contrary! by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    That's an exceedingly lame attempt at a joke.

    Actually it's much more clever than you think; you just have to know something about common toilet cleaning products.

    No matter, I liked it and am happy to publish it for all to enjoy.

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  94. Improved living conditions -- more responsibility by CityZen · · Score: 1

    I was going to question the idea of improving the living conditions for the world's poorest without also requiring them to take more responsibility for living sustainably.

    However, I see that the Gates Foundation is also a big promoter of family planning, so I'll cut them some slack.

    In any case, it's always important to keep in mind the big picture when solving the world's problems.

  95. American attitude by Dunbal · · Score: 2

    A new toilet better suited for developing countries. Forget the fact that most of the per capita waste in the world happens right at home in N. America. But yeah, stick a "developing countries" label on it to make it go down better with the Politically Correct crowd.

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    1. Re:American attitude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perfect. Liberals won't mod you down because you mention that Americans produce most of the waste per capita (irrelevant, the issue is shit), and conservatives won't mod you down because you comment on political correctness and the hierarchy of oppression. So your stupid comment stays up for people to rage at you about.

  96. Re:More important: energy efficient air conditioni by Kidbro · · Score: 1

    AC is practically required for any kind of modern economy.

    Nitpicking here, I know, but I live in Scandinavia. I have practically never even been to a place here (save cars) that has an AC. And I really would consider us a "modern economy".
    Your statement comes with a latitude threshold - one which includes a vast majority of the world population, admittedly.

  97. Toilets and nationalities. by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    The Germans build toilets to prevent any possibility of splashing.

    Meanwhile the French build toilets to ensure a good splash...

    Americans just leave it up to chance.

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  98. Where does it go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The *great* thing about water-based sanitation is that it
    (a) Takes the shit away to ... wherever i.e. it's a transport mechanism
    (b) and (by design if not 100%) separates pathogens (and other pollutants) until they have been neutralised.
    Right! Now we have better uses for water than flushing gallons down the bog. So we lose (a) and its payload (b). Now what do we do?

    Low-tech can work with a little bit of knowledge and plenty of land and plenty of strict regulation. But in a slum the only 'safe' route is piped water and you have to live with the zero-cost disposal option. Horrible I know but towns are predicated on services while villages are predicated on 'community wisdom'. [Eh? responsibility+knowledge+enforcement]

  99. "by he"? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... the foundation created by he and his wife Melinda ...

    Really?

    REALLY????

    Does nobody actually speak English any more?

  100. I sorry (.. no I'm not really ... ) but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    whenever anyone strives for headlines about how they are going to solve the sanitation problem in third-world countries, I always want to press them for their solution to the scarier birth rate problem. If you don't get the birth rate under control faster than saving the babies, then the next generation is going to have even worse food, energy, and water shortage problems.

  101. Thanks Bill you stupid fuck by aybiss · · Score: 1

    Excellent, so I can expect a toilet that will cost a fucking fortune but that I won't actually be able to shit in.

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  102. Free as in poo by KnightBlade · · Score: 1

    All toilets should be Free - Richard Stallman.

  103. Re:More important: energy efficient air conditioni by stepho-wrs · · Score: 1

    I grew up in Australia on the edge of a desert - without air conditioning.
    Air conditioning is a very much appreciated luxury but not strictly necessary for the locals.

  104. Samsung by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

    Or just wait a little bit longer and buy one from Samsung that lets you sit however you like on it.

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  105. I'm going to take a Gates by xs650 · · Score: 1

    Thomas Crapper's improvements to the flush toilet had a lot to do with it's popularity. In his honor, people to this day call the act of using a toilet going to "take a crap". Will that be changed to "take a Gates"?

  106. Re:More important: energy efficient air conditioni by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

    But I bet your grandparents burned wood like it was going out of style, arguably increasing my need for air conditioning.

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  107. Continuing a Seattle first by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Well, Seattle now has its second Thomas Crapper

  108. "soft" ware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    whatever it takes to keep the creep away from software..
    oh sh..t it's "soft" "ware" :(

  109. Great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now we'll have to wait SP1 to flush it.

  110. Some problems ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Flushing finished in 2 days ...
    Flushing finished in 5 hours ...
    Flushing finished in 8 hours ...
    Flushing finished in 3 minutes ...
    Flushing finished in 5 seconds ...
    Flushing finished in 0 seconds ...
    Flushing finished in 0 seconds ...
    Blue Screen of Death

    An other problem would be the updates

    "You have to download a framework so you can use this toilet"
    "Please buy the new version of the Microsoft because this version isn't compatible with your shit ..."

  111. Old toilet is old by DrStoooopid · · Score: 1

    .....this is a rehashed story from 4 years ago. This is OLD news. "Crappy" news story all around.

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  112. Who writes these things...? by ncberns · · Score: 1

    Aha. It was "...created by he...." Obviously grammar was the first thing flushed down the toilet.

  113. NOPE! I reivented the toilet and told a lawyer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I told a lawyer and several people in email. I did write a design diagram but am no longer sure I still have it because I get assaulted constantly. I explained where the inspiration came from and some issues and the purpose of it. It was not long ago but not very recently either, so I no longer remember exactly what I had in mind... though I am sure I can come up with it again without much memory effort. But of course Microsoft has been very busy establishing PARALLELISMS. Someone ought to know what I mean exactly. Thank you for the news.

    As for developing countries, they will never develop if they do not try developing anything by themselves and always wait on us.

    Danilo J Bonsignore

    PS. I ought to still have the emails with me, but surely the gov offices I write to would have backups of them.

  114. Stale by wiedzmin · · Score: 1

    I guess Slashdot editors don't read Slashdot... this was posted here over a year ago already http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/07/13/1527242/Bill-Gates-Looks-to-Reinvent-the-Toilet

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  115. Re; Bill's toilet world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bill Gates has always been involved in toilet products so it comes as no surprise that he is thinking about building an actual toilet.

  116. Handicapped toilet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The thing I saw was laying on ground. I'll(woman) just pee standing up then?