"What the heck gives you the right to see ANYTHING they are doing"
Straight from the 'smells faintly of fascism' big business apologist jerk handbook..
When corporations influence over me becomes equal to my influence over them.. then I will no longer need such a right... Until then, while they lord it over us in a manner indistinguishable from a government, I will treat them with equal distrust as a government.
Repeat after me.. security through secrecy only works while your secret is, err, secret..
Now; how many engineers have worked on the iOS platform again? will they all keep it's secrets? Can you guarantee that? Do you realise that by keeping it secret Apple are also restricting the number of white hats that can notify them of security problems before they get exploited?
In modern business it seems the more someone is paid, the more drivel they spout.
"I'd be interested in seeing how Google would react if someone drove into their parking lot, hauled out a camera and started photographing their campus"
Ok, so a fairly sensible provision, statutes need to evolve with this sort of thing.
But.. Is there some sort of proviso that you must immediately announce (in a decent manner..) the death of the accounts owner if you use it to conduct any public affairs, such as replying to a forum message, private message, email message, etc.
Or can you -only- use it to wrap up the accounts? are you obliged to close the accounts as fast as possible?
I'm not suggesting you should have to post 'this person is dead' messages all over the internet, just that you must clearly state you are the deceased's executor if using the account to leave any messages in private or public forums.
There is a real potential here for 'post mortem fraud..'
What are their names? - They are X and Y. Go figure; Maybe they checked the 'no publicity' box on the contract.
What interviews with the press have they done? Have they hired Gloria Allred? - None yet.. but at least one of them is a PR aware person (you see.. there are some details available out there) so this is probably coming.
This might actually be a case of 'women scorned, do something to hurt their ex-lover, and it snowballs further than they want', but it is ooooh sooo convenient that I doubt it. Far more likely a plan begun way back and finally coming to fruition. I suppose there might be someone in the CIA sitting there grinning, saying 'Wow.. he did this to himself and we did nothing'.. in which case I point them to the story of Peter and the Wolf.
'You used a negative term for women about a particular woman.. that means you hate all women.'
Yeah.. whatever. Fool
That was actually quite a deliberate choice of words; it can be quite useful to use extreme language sometimes.. That is why expletives exist; to allow the free expression of strong emotion.
'Been rejected by the prom queen' huh.. not everybody went through the US college education pantomime.
The Assange case makes a good study in how the violent right goes about dealing with threats; we first saw serious suggestions that he is some sort of 'sex pest' being inserted into the media earlier this year; for instance a BBC profile piece on him contained 'hints' of this, shadow actors started adding entries to his wikipedia article, all pro-establishment media now uses a standard 'looks greasy and sleezy' stock photo of him, etc..
Then later on; he failed to resist some of the loose women who suddenly started attaching themselves to him at every opportunity; and behold; they turned out to be shills; whoring themselves for publicity and (being underhandedly encouraged by the warmongers Assuange threatens).
And now we enter the first endgame. Lets be quite clear; the decision to arrest was not really made by Swedish legal types; it was made by pro-violence media manipulators working to support the arms industry; the authorities in Sweeden are just doing as they are told.
The only crime Assuange has made against me was to not tell these whores to fuck off when they draped themselves over him.
You should, however, care more about the memories of the person than the persons dead body which they will no longer have a use for
Unless, of course, by your twisty trolling logic, those memories include the memory of their body being desecrated? There is a reason why people here are associating your attitudes with sociopathic behaviour.
It makes no difference when your dead if your organs are in a jar, cremated, or rotting in the earth.
Cool; so when someone close to you dies they wont mind if I come along and urinate on their body before the funeral? Given what you just wrote you wont object to that right?
It certainly costs the taxpayer a fortune.... but believe me, it is very profitable for those who run the law enforcement and incarceration operations.
Naa; they've just worked out that giving money to the RIIA is a stoopid thing to do no matter what their fanbois say. They'll get more original music, featuring more talent, for less, by shopping elsewhere.
The few examples of highly social and moral individuals with a good heart you can cherrypick will not suffice.
The rich are generally greedy, this is even more true now than it was back in the glory days you harken to; greedy people do not help those poorer without taking more back than they put in. Fact of life I'm afraid..
More likely he'll come voluntarily.. Your master (Murdoch) is just about to be allowed to takeover our biggest almost independent satellite channel and turn it into the UK's version of Faux News.
Slashdotted...... but I gotta wonder at a site called 'gamingtruth'; who's truth exactly?
"What the heck gives you the right to see ANYTHING they are doing"
Straight from the 'smells faintly of fascism' big business apologist jerk handbook..
When corporations influence over me becomes equal to my influence over them.. then I will no longer need such a right... Until then, while they lord it over us in a manner indistinguishable from a government, I will treat them with equal distrust as a government.
jeez.. if you'd have read my second paragraph before going off like a thundertwat, you would have... .. oh no you wouldn't would you?
@Mr Chang...
Repeat after me.. security through secrecy only works while your secret is, err, secret..
Now; how many engineers have worked on the iOS platform again? will they all keep it's secrets? Can you guarantee that? Do you realise that by keeping it secret Apple are also restricting the number of white hats that can notify them of security problems before they get exploited?
In modern business it seems the more someone is paid, the more drivel they spout.
Amen.. ConnectBot is great. All the features and very little lameness or clutter.
"I'd be interested in seeing how Google would react if someone drove into their parking lot, hauled out a camera and started photographing their campus"
What? you mean like this...
http://chrisonstad.blogspot.com/2007/02/my-trip-to-google-with-photos.html
More: http://www.bing.com/search?q=my+photos+of+google+campus
yeah.. and it's on cryptome.. which is pissed because Wikileaks is doing what cryptome always promised, but failed to deliver..
Ok, so a fairly sensible provision, statutes need to evolve with this sort of thing.
But.. Is there some sort of proviso that you must immediately announce (in a decent manner..) the death of the accounts owner if you use it to conduct any public affairs, such as replying to a forum message, private message, email message, etc.
Or can you -only- use it to wrap up the accounts? are you obliged to close the accounts as fast as possible?
I'm not suggesting you should have to post 'this person is dead' messages all over the internet, just that you must clearly state you are the deceased's executor if using the account to leave any messages in private or public forums.
There is a real potential here for 'post mortem fraud..'
What are their names?
- They are X and Y. Go figure; Maybe they checked the 'no publicity' box on the contract.
What interviews with the press have they done? Have they hired Gloria Allred?
- None yet.. but at least one of them is a PR aware person (you see.. there are some details available out there) so this is probably coming.
This might actually be a case of 'women scorned, do something to hurt their ex-lover, and it snowballs further than they want', but it is ooooh sooo convenient that I doubt it. Far more likely a plan begun way back and finally coming to fruition. I suppose there might be someone in the CIA sitting there grinning, saying 'Wow.. he did this to himself and we did nothing'.. in which case I point them to the story of Peter and the Wolf.
Ah; and now for a classic manipulator trick;
'You used a negative term for women about a particular woman.. that means you hate all women.'
Yeah.. whatever. Fool
That was actually quite a deliberate choice of words; it can be quite useful to use extreme language sometimes.. That is why expletives exist; to allow the free expression of strong emotion.
'Been rejected by the prom queen' huh.. not everybody went through the US college education pantomime.
:-) and I'm with you on the importance of copyright; it's the abuse of it that annoys me too.
The Assange case makes a good study in how the violent right goes about dealing with threats; we first saw serious suggestions that he is some sort of 'sex pest' being inserted into the media earlier this year; for instance a BBC profile piece on him contained 'hints' of this, shadow actors started adding entries to his wikipedia article, all pro-establishment media now uses a standard 'looks greasy and sleezy' stock photo of him, etc..
Then later on; he failed to resist some of the loose women who suddenly started attaching themselves to him at every opportunity; and behold; they turned out to be shills; whoring themselves for publicity and (being underhandedly encouraged by the warmongers Assuange threatens).
And now we enter the first endgame. Lets be quite clear; the decision to arrest was not really made by Swedish legal types; it was made by pro-violence media manipulators working to support the arms industry; the authorities in Sweeden are just doing as they are told.
The only crime Assuange has made against me was to not tell these whores to fuck off when they draped themselves over him.
Thankyou; of all the arguments against copyright; this is by far the most succinct I have ever heard.
You should, however, care more about the memories of the person than the persons dead body which they will no longer have a use for
Unless, of course, by your twisty trolling logic, those memories include the memory of their body being desecrated?
There is a reason why people here are associating your attitudes with sociopathic behaviour.
It makes no difference when your dead if your organs are in a jar, cremated, or rotting in the earth.
Cool; so when someone close to you dies they wont mind if I come along and urinate on their body before the funeral? Given what you just wrote you wont object to that right?
It's about the living; and respect; doofus.
It certainly costs the taxpayer a fortune. ... but believe me, it is very profitable for those who run the law enforcement and incarceration operations.
Not an original thought of course...
http://www.economistsdoitwithmodels.com/2010/05/13/dilbert-and-wally-on-outsourcing-and-leverage/
Yep.. apple certainly made sure this does not affect the Ipad by making it shut down whenever it gets too hot.
Your nuts are safe with Apple,
Naa; they've just worked out that giving money to the RIIA is a stoopid thing to do no matter what their fanbois say. They'll get more original music, featuring more talent, for less, by shopping elsewhere.
PS: Just a reminder; you gave three examples:
2 Quakers and a Liberal.
I strongly suspect the demographic of the owners of modern business (mostly bankers and hedge fund managers) really matches this anymore.
Yep I'm sure..
The few examples of highly social and moral individuals with a good heart you can cherrypick will not suffice.
The rich are generally greedy, this is even more true now than it was back in the glory days you harken to; greedy people do not help those poorer without taking more back than they put in. Fact of life I'm afraid..
"ACTA is an enforcement agreement, and doesn't really touch basic definitions of what constitutes an IP infringement,"
Indeed; ACTA is a worldwide censorship mechanism; the rich and powerful will later on decide what to censor.
"we can deport Glen Beck"
More likely he'll come voluntarily.. Your master (Murdoch) is just about to be allowed to takeover our biggest almost independent satellite channel and turn it into the UK's version of Faux News.
Actually we look sideways at it.
"In Victorian England it was the mill-owners that opened the schools and hospitals and provided cheap housing for their workers"
You do realise they -charged- for this...? and made a profit on it.