>....because they're noticed too quickly. If > you destroy your host immediately you're > not going to propogate too far, now are you?
Well, that should be easily fixed by waiting a week or two before doing the bad stuff, exactly as for example HIV. Ebola, on the other hand, is a god analogy to what you are describing, the reason we're not all dead right now is that it killed their hosts "too fast".
"Normal" people don't give a sh*t about sites like that
Maybe not, but IT-staff at hospitals, government agencies etc may think that this feels more "official" then all other sites out there. Also, the site had a very clean and professional look, didn't look "hackerish" in some way (not that that is negative in my optinion).
There is only one problem: my friends does not understand why they should use Jabber instead of installing the real MSN-client on their computers. They know all about Free Software bla blah blah (I speak about it all the time), they just don't care because it's much easier for them to install and configue MSN. A few of my buddies are also "MS haters" as myself, but they are too lazy switching to Free Software if it does not give them practical advantages.
Btw, they happily run both an ICQ and MSN client at the same time, so switching to Jabber because it handles more than one protocol does not matter very much.
Seems like thay have at least good intentions. From the CE Linux Forum site:
The CE Linux Forum (CELF) is an industry group that is focused on the advancement of Linux as an open source platform for consumer electronics devices. The CELF intends to operate completely within the letter and the spirit of the open source community. The CELF is a place to come and discuss various issues that are of particular importance to the CE industry. Through an open process, the CELF members will clarify and codify certain requirements to be addressed by the open source community. Thereafter, the CELF will evaluate any open source submissions as to their effectiveness and responsiveness to the requirements. Open source submissions accepted by the CELF Architecture Group and Steering Committee will be incorporated into the CELF source tree, which itself is open to the public.
Through this open process, the CELF intends to leverage the benefits of the open source community and process to maximize the re-use of common solutions to common problems and thereby create a foundation on which the CELF members and others can build compelling networked products. We welcome you to join the CELF and work with us to realize an open platform for compelling new consumer electronics products.
I don't agree. I have been using Windows since 3.1 and though there have been some large leaps in interface design (Windows NT 3.51 -> NT4 was a HUGE one and Windows 2000 -> XP SEEMS huge but isn't really if you go back to the classic theme), the interface is quite the same really.
Don't misunderstand me, I run only Linux at home, and have tried several window managers and stuff (lately I've been using Ion quite much though) but I agree that it would be nice with some sort of "standard" for the Linux desktop. To free the world from MS's monopoly.
what about the bloody principle of backing up your own software? let me guess, stallman and his crew has ONE FTP server, and they never back the bloody thing up? they should all be punished for such foolishness. nobody in a corporation would allow this...what would have happened if the harddrive crashed, or the raid crashed hard on that FTP ser4ver? the same thing!!!
Well, if you had read this more carefully, you would not be so cocky:
Given the nature of the compromise and the length of time the machine was compromised, we have spent the last few weeks verifying the integrity of the GNU source code stored on gnuftp. Most of this work is done, and the remaining work is primarily for files that were uploaded since early 2003, as our backups from that period could also theoretically be compromised.
Well, if you had FTFL (Followed The Fscking Link) I guess you could have found out for yourself: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnumeric/functions.s html...:)
Well, it's a long time since I studied things like this in school, but if I remember correctly, what you describe will only happen if the bend, or force, is greater then the material's blabla-threshhold/limit (I don't know what to replace bla bla with, don't remember. Also, this was in Swedish).
So, as long as you do not exceed the limit for the particular material you can bend it an unlimited amount of times before it breaks (and THAT is a veeeery long time...), or start to "memorize". Of course, I can be completely wrong here.
I don't drink coffe. I seldom drink tea. I sometimes drink Coke. So my caffeine intake is quite low.
Anyway, last year I read in a book about the pros and cons of caffeine, and when listed next to each other it felt like it did not matter. As I understood it, it can actually be good for some people, but probably really bad for some, it all depends.
But I guess that there beeing a choice between normal coffe and decaf can only be good thing.
Now - an interesting question to think about is what part of our pattern-recognizing brain is responsible for *falling* for such a visual illusion? Research like this can shed light on the workings of the mind, I think.
Well, it's probably the same mechanism that allow us to be fooled by magic tricks. No biggy!
Yes, I like SMS. I have only one problem with it: the price. It's too expensive compared to what you get for the money. Of course the network owners know this. In Sweden where I live, one SMS cost 1.50 Swedish Kroner (SEK) (one USD ~ SEK 7.7).
...of people that does not see that ther are parts of the world where it it impossible or very very hard to obtain a TiVo. Like here in Sweden for example. I would very much welcome if someone sold MythTV boxes. I also want this!
Ok, I'm from Sweden. That means that I normally use a decimal comma. When writing in *Swedish!* Comprende?
This fact aside, I have started to think that using comma as decimal separator is not a very good idea. Just one example, look how strange a coordinate may be written (x,y): 10,5,20,5. Eh? At least in this context, the "english way" of doing it is more readable: 10.5,20.5.
One yhing I dont understand is why the english (or is it only american-english?) word for 10^9 is "billion" but the Swedish (and other Scandinavian anguages, and I think also French but I'm not sure) is "miljard". The reason this gets confusing is that we also have "biljon" (10^12) which I guess is trillion in english, right?
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> ....because they're noticed too quickly. If
> you destroy your host immediately you're
> not going to propogate too far, now are you?
Well, that should be easily fixed by waiting a week or two before doing the bad stuff, exactly as for example HIV. Ebola, on the other hand, is a god analogy to what you are describing, the reason we're not all dead right now is that it killed their hosts "too fast".
Maybe someone could make use of NTFS Alternate Data Streams in some cool way:
http://www.heysoft.de/nt/ntfs-ads.htm
(I must try that out some day, maybe I can make emacs interface those streams for me.)
Maybe not, but IT-staff at hospitals, government agencies etc may think that this feels more "official" then all other sites out there. Also, the site had a very clean and professional look, didn't look "hackerish" in some way (not that that is negative in my optinion).
My 50 ore...
There is only one problem: my friends does not understand why they should use Jabber instead of installing the real MSN-client on their computers. They know all about Free Software bla blah blah (I speak about it all the time), they just don't care because it's much easier for them to install and configue MSN. A few of my buddies are also "MS haters" as myself, but they are too lazy switching to Free Software if it does not give them practical advantages.
Btw, they happily run both an ICQ and MSN client at the same time, so switching to Jabber because it handles more than one protocol does not matter very much.
The CE Linux Forum (CELF) is an industry group that is focused on the advancement of Linux as an open source platform for consumer electronics devices. The CELF intends to operate completely within the letter and the spirit of the open source community. The CELF is a place to come and discuss various issues that are of particular importance to the CE industry. Through an open process, the CELF members will clarify and codify certain requirements to be addressed by the open source community. Thereafter, the CELF will evaluate any open source submissions as to their effectiveness and responsiveness to the requirements. Open source submissions accepted by the CELF Architecture Group and Steering Committee will be incorporated into the CELF source tree, which itself is open to the public.
Through this open process, the CELF intends to leverage the benefits of the open source community and process to maximize the re-use of common solutions to common problems and thereby create a foundation on which the CELF members and others can build compelling networked products. We welcome you to join the CELF and work with us to realize an open platform for compelling new consumer electronics products.
I don't agree. I have been using Windows since 3.1 and though there have been some large leaps in interface design (Windows NT 3.51 -> NT4 was a HUGE one and Windows 2000 -> XP SEEMS huge but isn't really if you go back to the classic theme), the interface is quite the same really.
Don't misunderstand me, I run only Linux at home, and have tried several window managers and stuff (lately I've been using Ion quite much though) but I agree that it would be nice with some sort of "standard" for the Linux desktop. To free the world from MS's monopoly.
what about the bloody principle of backing up your own software? let me guess, stallman and his crew has ONE FTP server, and they never back the bloody thing up? they should all be punished for such foolishness. nobody in a corporation would allow this...what would have happened if the harddrive crashed, or the raid crashed hard on that FTP ser4ver? the same thing!!!
Well, if you had read this more carefully, you would not be so cocky:
Given the nature of the compromise and the length of time the machine was
compromised, we have spent the last few weeks verifying the integrity of
the GNU source code stored on gnuftp. Most of this work is done, and the
remaining work is primarily for files that were uploaded since early 2003,
as our backups from that period could also theoretically be compromised.
Well, if you had FTFL (Followed The Fscking Link) I guess you could have found out for yourself: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnumeric/functions.s html... :)
I'm not so sure about that. Look at how RMS used the existing copyright laws to create the GPL. It has worked quite well, has it not?
Copyrighting fire
So, as long as you do not exceed the limit for the particular material you can bend it an unlimited amount of times before it breaks (and THAT is a veeeery long time...), or start to "memorize". Of course, I can be completely wrong here.
Anyway, last year I read in a book about the pros and cons of caffeine, and when listed next to each other it felt like it did not matter. As I understood it, it can actually be good for some people, but probably really bad for some, it all depends.
But I guess that there beeing a choice between normal coffe and decaf can only be good thing.
Err... That is like saying that the sefaty belt in my car cannot save me from a bomb planted in the car. I'll say it again, better safe than sorry.
Well, when it comes to airplanes and flying I think the expression "better safe than sorry" fits the bill quite nice.
http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?XWindowEm acsManager
Of course you would. Now that you read the article and know the "trick"... :)
Well, it's probably the same mechanism that allow us to be fooled by magic tricks. No biggy!
Yes, I like SMS. I have only one problem with it: the price. It's too expensive compared to what you get for the money. Of course the network owners know this. In Sweden where I live, one SMS cost 1.50 Swedish Kroner (SEK) (one USD ~ SEK 7.7).
...of people that does not see that ther are parts of the world where it it impossible or very very hard to obtain a TiVo. Like here in Sweden for example. I would very much welcome if someone sold MythTV boxes. I also want this!
You mean this would be any different from someone stealing your CDs?
Ok, I'm from Sweden. That means that I normally use a decimal comma. When writing in *Swedish!* Comprende?
This fact aside, I have started to think that using comma as decimal separator is not a very good idea. Just one example, look how strange a coordinate may be written (x,y): 10,5,20,5. Eh? At least in this context, the "english way" of doing it is more readable: 10.5,20.5.
One yhing I dont understand is why the english (or is it only american-english?) word for 10^9 is "billion" but the Swedish (and other Scandinavian anguages, and I think also French but I'm not sure) is "miljard". The reason this gets confusing is that we also have "biljon" (10^12) which I guess is trillion in english, right?
Just my two cents.
Sorry for trolling, but is THIS supposed to be an interesting "Ask Slashdot"?
Just because three people like it does not mean you three are not freaks! :)
No no no no! You don't understand. See, this is Slashdot, and we are always against Microsoft; it is always their fault when something goes wrong, ok?
So there you have it: rule No 1 when posting stories on Slashdot. Welcome!
The MultiZilla project does the same, though it is buggy on my machine right now so I won't use it right now.