I am a former geophysicist... The thinking among actual climatologists, when having un-paid-for discussions amongs themselvest, is very much along the lines of what you are saying.
If you want to get the real scoop on global warming, do exactly what Anon-Admin did... Don't just read mass-consumption-oriented publications and believe it all. Pick up the journals, do some real thinking and study in climatology, and see what conclusion you come to.
James Nefargio Julio Masterson Kumquat Cicero Magnus L Boiseii George Trombone Frieda Thermopolis Bester Maniagwan Fruity Touloops Minerva of Botswana Hardhat Wearingguy
That's the problem. My guess is that the sensor works about 99% of the time. Meaning it gives false positives often enough to render the saw utterly useless.
Moral: Buy a real saw today, because tomorrow the government will be outlawing the ones that actually work.
not for me... I just hit netscape.com and the page loaded fully in less than one second. And this is a newly installed FF with nothing cached, and on a just imaged machine. Maybe check your provider?:)
you think you can slashdot netscape.com? I think you're a bit confused about how big your little chewing gum and paperclips forum is. Last I checked, slashdot gets a measley million or so pageviews a day. Netscape.com is around 50 times that.
> As a side suggestion about managing your documents, it is a good idea to get anal about foldering your files and maintaining consistent naming conventions in your repositories.
"foldering" ? What the?
You've been made, project manager. Verbing nouns will give you away every time. Now where did you learn about SVN? Who are you working for? Which geeks violated our trust and imparted you with knowledge you aer not worthy of?
My neighbor (and I live on a farm, so he's my only neighbor) is a promisekeeper. He is truly one of the nicest people I know, but....
My neighbor and his wife dropped by my house one day trying to get me to sign a petition for an anti gay marriage amendment. I did my best to take these sheltered individuals on a voyage of discovery. Unfortunately the amendment passed, much to my outrage. I can only imagine how isolated and dismissed my gay friends must feel on top of the outrage I feel.
Anyway, my neighbor finally stopped bringing me promisekeepers literature when I put a big baphomet sticker in the rear window of my truck. I stopped stort of the "xtians are tasty with butter" sticker since he is, after all, a nice guy and a good neighbor:)
Not only was his sexual impulse unaffected, but his sexual orientation was not either. It didn't occur to me to even think about this until you mentioned it.
I am led to wonder if anyone has studied patients with damage to various parts of the brain to find evidence of alteration of sexual preference.
Seems to me this would lead to scientific proof that gayness is not a result of something being wrong with you.
Disclaimer: I am a straight man who believes gayness is not a "disorder" or even "fixable", but is a normal part of life.
Yeah, they are close to the Manassas Battlefield. It's all civil war history down there. But, those things don't bring in much money and at the time the area was quite depressed. Things are better now, fortunately:) It became a bedroom community for the dot-com boom, and the guys who made money and got out still have big houses and spend a lot of money.
It was fun hanging out in the woods and overgrown former farmland when I lived there. Every once in a while you'd stumble over an old grave marker or civil war relic of some sort. I once even found some slave graves on my parents' property. For those who will ask.... these particular graves were marked by a rectangle of buried rocks and nothing more. The rocks were arranged in the outline of a grave shape, they were at the fenceline, and they were not marked in any other way, so I only surmise that they were slave graves.
The big one for me is what Disney did to my parents' town.
The swooped in and announced that they were going to build a theme park called "Disney's America." They got the town to spend huge amounts of money on road improvements and business development. Lots of people moved into new housing. Lots of new businesses opened. The entire town bet their fortunes on Disney.
Then Eisner said "PSYCHE! HAHA!" and pulled it all out, making comments that implied he was just testing to see how far he could push the town.
Of course, I was a kid then, and this was all seen through my parents' eyes, so my view could be a little skewed. Anyone from the area care to back me up?
Actually, the wait time for an elevator will be shorter. However, because the user will not get to ride the first elevator whose door opens, the perceived wait time will be longer.
Who modded this flamebait? Hello, the dude is (mostly) right.
There is money to be made in selling music to the unwashed masses. Especially if those masses are pre-brainwashed to believe that the vanilla crap on the radio is good. But anything artistic must be done for art's own sake. Because nobody is gonna buy that.
yeah, Amazon tracks what music I buy (though it is very rare that I buy from Amazon)and suggests stuff I might like.
I keep expecting to get a message from them saying "We don't have anything that is even remotely like the stuff you are into. Why don't you get some taste, you wierdo"
Some excellent points you have made. I especially like how you correctly state that people in general do not have or show any respect for the thoughts of others who do not think like they do or who have not been trained in their discipline.
Howard Gardner (one of my personal heroes) destroys the concepts of elitism in any one way of thinking with his multiple intelligences theory. After I met him while I was in grad school I strongly considered switching programs, but I was already well into my program in physics and was itching to get the hell out of Boston:) No offense to Bostonians, but I just can't do city life.
I am lucky in that I was always smart in a bookish way that appealed to the kind of people who admit you to college and graduate school. It took a long time to convince my wife, for example, that she is a highly intelligent person even though she sucks at traditional academics and tests. Her artistic mind, however, is truly stunning, and that is why I was attracted to her.
Scientists do have a well thought out, internally consistent, rationale for evolutionary pressure that may answer the questions you raised in the first part of your comment. I would strongly suggest reading Darwin's Origin of Species. Your issues are very carefully discussed within that book, but only from the point of view of a scientist, of course.
I am also certain that creationists have a well thought out and internally consistent rationale for motivations behind changes in species. That is part of why I asked for ID references. I do not understand the rationales from that point of view, but I would like to.
I don't quite understand what you mean... So crystals of quartz or feldspar or amphibole or something grew in a magma chamber and then froze when the chamber's contents erupted to the surface of the earth.
Right, that's how granite forms.
I don't understand how that pertains to the discussion, so I clearly missed something. Would you mind explaining it a bit further? Yeah, I know, I should go read the book, but until then I'm curious.
I wholeheartedly agree that agnosticism is more logically sound.
I even went through a short phase where I described myself as agnostic. This was in response to a professor's lecture in a physics class long ag when we conjectured about particles that move faster than light. He argued that a particle which was able to move faster than light would not be able to interact in any way with normal matter. So such particles could exist with impunity without us ever being able to detect them. Such, I thought, could possibly be the nature of a god.
Bones Of Contention: A Creationist Assessment Of Human Fossils by Marvin L. Lubenow -- this sounds extremely intersting as well. I admit one eyebrow went up when I read the title, but I will dismiss that as I am reading.
Evolution on Trial by Dr. Thomas Kindell
Signs of Intelligence: Understanding Intelligent Design by William A. Dembski (Editor), James M. Kushiner (Editor).
The Design Revolution: Answering the Toughest Questions About Intelligent Design by William A. Dembski.
Miracles by CS Lewis -- I loved the Chronicles of Narnia, so I'm eager to read this as well... and no, I'm not going to go the the LW&W movie.
The Bible, though it is not specifically relevant to what I meant, it couldn't hurt to read it again.
Let me know if I missed any. Whew! Looks like I committed myself to a lot of reading, but after finishing my greek plays phase I've been looking for another reading project anyway:)
This has been marked troll, and I believe the attitude in which you posted is probably trolling, however you bring up a good point.
I have read the bible, however I did not read it all with what you might call an open mind.
I read the old testament as literature, and what fun literature it was. Quite an interesting read.
I read the new testament mostly so I could say to my xtian friends that I'd read the new testament. I found myself saying "yeah yeah yeah, whatever" to a lot of it.
Perhaps it would be a good idea for me to give it all another read. No harm in that.
I, myself, as a scientist and an atheist (although I believe the two have nothing to do with each other) have never read the important works of ID.
As an ID supporter, I am led to believe that you are liely an authority on what those important works are, and I ask you to kindly list those which you feel are most important.
I give you my word that I will read them all with a totally open mind.
Mod the man up.
I am a former geophysicist... The thinking among actual climatologists, when having un-paid-for discussions amongs themselvest, is very much along the lines of what you are saying.
If you want to get the real scoop on global warming, do exactly what Anon-Admin did... Don't just read mass-consumption-oriented publications and believe it all. Pick up the journals, do some real thinking and study in climatology, and see what conclusion you come to.
There need to be many more people like you, Anon.
hey, I can do that too!
James Nefargio
Julio Masterson
Kumquat Cicero
Magnus L Boiseii
George Trombone
Frieda Thermopolis
Bester Maniagwan
Fruity Touloops
Minerva of Botswana
Hardhat Wearingguy
Wow, making up names is fun!
That's the problem. My guess is that the sensor works about 99% of the time. Meaning it gives false positives often enough to render the saw utterly useless.
Moral: Buy a real saw today, because tomorrow the government will be outlawing the ones that actually work.
The winner of the bmw may notice that no matter how many times he washes it... it just won't come clean.
not for me... I just hit netscape.com and the page loaded fully in less than one second. And this is a newly installed FF with nothing cached, and on a just imaged machine. Maybe check your provider? :)
you think you can slashdot netscape.com? I think you're a bit confused about how big your little chewing gum and paperclips forum is. Last I checked, slashdot gets a measley million or so pageviews a day. Netscape.com is around 50 times that.
I smell executives.
The crawl in through a hole in the wall, eat all your grain stores and leave little pellets behind as they leave.
> As a side suggestion about managing your documents, it is a good idea to get anal about foldering your files and maintaining consistent naming conventions in your repositories.
"foldering" ? What the?
You've been made, project manager. Verbing nouns will give you away every time. Now where did you learn about SVN? Who are you working for? Which geeks violated our trust and imparted you with knowledge you aer not worthy of?
Oh, man, don't get me started on promisekeepers.
:)
My neighbor (and I live on a farm, so he's my only neighbor) is a promisekeeper. He is truly one of the nicest people I know, but....
My neighbor and his wife dropped by my house one day trying to get me to sign a petition for an anti gay marriage amendment. I did my best to take these sheltered individuals on a voyage of discovery. Unfortunately the amendment passed, much to my outrage. I can only imagine how isolated and dismissed my gay friends must feel on top of the outrage I feel.
Anyway, my neighbor finally stopped bringing me promisekeepers literature when I put a big baphomet sticker in the rear window of my truck. I stopped stort of the "xtians are tasty with butter" sticker since he is, after all, a nice guy and a good neighbor
So this brings up some interesting thoughts.
Not only was his sexual impulse unaffected, but his sexual orientation was not either. It didn't occur to me to even think about this until you mentioned it.
I am led to wonder if anyone has studied patients with damage to various parts of the brain to find evidence of alteration of sexual preference.
Seems to me this would lead to scientific proof that gayness is not a result of something being wrong with you.
Disclaimer: I am a straight man who believes gayness is not a "disorder" or even "fixable", but is a normal part of life.
Yeah, they are close to the Manassas Battlefield. It's all civil war history down there. But, those things don't bring in much money and at the time the area was quite depressed. Things are better now, fortunately :) It became a bedroom community for the dot-com boom, and the guys who made money and got out still have big houses and spend a lot of money.
It was fun hanging out in the woods and overgrown former farmland when I lived there. Every once in a while you'd stumble over an old grave marker or civil war relic of some sort. I once even found some slave graves on my parents' property. For those who will ask.... these particular graves were marked by a rectangle of buried rocks and nothing more. The rocks were arranged in the outline of a grave shape, they were at the fenceline, and they were not marked in any other way, so I only surmise that they were slave graves.
The big one for me is what Disney did to my parents' town.
The swooped in and announced that they were going to build a theme park called "Disney's America." They got the town to spend huge amounts of money on road improvements and business development. Lots of people moved into new housing. Lots of new businesses opened. The entire town bet their fortunes on Disney.
Then Eisner said "PSYCHE! HAHA!" and pulled it all out, making comments that implied he was just testing to see how far he could push the town.
Of course, I was a kid then, and this was all seen through my parents' eyes, so my view could be a little skewed. Anyone from the area care to back me up?
My process also works in seconds.
About 310,360,000 seconds, in fact.
If the trip time is shorter, meaning the elevator is spending less time making trips, then wouldn't the wait time be shorter, too? :)
Actually, the wait time for an elevator will be shorter. However, because the user will not get to ride the first elevator whose door opens, the perceived wait time will be longer.
Who modded this flamebait? Hello, the dude is (mostly) right.
There is money to be made in selling music to the unwashed masses. Especially if those masses are pre-brainwashed to believe that the vanilla crap on the radio is good. But anything artistic must be done for art's own sake. Because nobody is gonna buy that.
http://www.halos.com/book/ctm-toc.htm
yeah, Amazon tracks what music I buy (though it is very rare that I buy from Amazon)and suggests stuff I might like.
I keep expecting to get a message from them saying "We don't have anything that is even remotely like the stuff you are into. Why don't you get some taste, you wierdo"
Some excellent points you have made. I especially like how you correctly state that people in general do not have or show any respect for the thoughts of others who do not think like they do or who have not been trained in their discipline.
:) No offense to Bostonians, but I just can't do city life.
Howard Gardner (one of my personal heroes) destroys the concepts of elitism in any one way of thinking with his multiple intelligences theory. After I met him while I was in grad school I strongly considered switching programs, but I was already well into my program in physics and was itching to get the hell out of Boston
I am lucky in that I was always smart in a bookish way that appealed to the kind of people who admit you to college and graduate school. It took a long time to convince my wife, for example, that she is a highly intelligent person even though she sucks at traditional academics and tests. Her artistic mind, however, is truly stunning, and that is why I was attracted to her.
Scientists do have a well thought out, internally consistent, rationale for evolutionary pressure that may answer the questions you raised in the first part of your comment. I would strongly suggest reading Darwin's Origin of Species. Your issues are very carefully discussed within that book, but only from the point of view of a scientist, of course.
I am also certain that creationists have a well thought out and internally consistent rationale for motivations behind changes in species. That is part of why I asked for ID references. I do not understand the rationales from that point of view, but I would like to.
Yeah, I was thinking about how I'd do that. I think that since my slashdot journal is unused that would be a good place for it.
I don't quite understand what you mean... So crystals of quartz or feldspar or amphibole or something grew in a magma chamber and then froze when the chamber's contents erupted to the surface of the earth.
Right, that's how granite forms.
I don't understand how that pertains to the discussion, so I clearly missed something. Would you mind explaining it a bit further? Yeah, I know, I should go read the book, but until then I'm curious.
I wholeheartedly agree that agnosticism is more logically sound.
I even went through a short phase where I described myself as agnostic. This was in response to a professor's lecture in a physics class long ag when we conjectured about particles that move faster than light. He argued that a particle which was able to move faster than light would not be able to interact in any way with normal matter. So such particles could exist with impunity without us ever being able to detect them. Such, I thought, could possibly be the nature of a god.
Ok, looks like this thread is winding down. I heartily thank all the people who have submitted works in response to my posting.
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:)
so I have:
"Case for a Creator" by Lee Strobel -- this looks like a really interesting book, and I'm looking forward to it.
Darwin's Black Box by Michael Behe
Radioisotopes and the Age of the Earth, Volume II http://www.icr.org/store/index.php?main_page=pubs
Creation's Tiny Mystery by Robert V. Gentry
Bones Of Contention: A Creationist Assessment Of Human Fossils by Marvin L. Lubenow -- this sounds extremely intersting as well. I admit one eyebrow went up when I read the title, but I will dismiss that as I am reading.
Evolution on Trial by Dr. Thomas Kindell
Signs of Intelligence: Understanding Intelligent Design by William A. Dembski (Editor), James M. Kushiner (Editor).
The Design Revolution: Answering the Toughest Questions About Intelligent Design by William A. Dembski.
I'll check out http://www.answersingenesis.org/ and see what's there
Miracles by CS Lewis -- I loved the Chronicles of Narnia, so I'm eager to read this as well... and no, I'm not going to go the the LW&W movie.
The Bible, though it is not specifically relevant to what I meant, it couldn't hurt to read it again.
Let me know if I missed any. Whew! Looks like I committed myself to a lot of reading, but after finishing my greek plays phase I've been looking for another reading project anyway
This has been marked troll, and I believe the attitude in which you posted is probably trolling, however you bring up a good point.
I have read the bible, however I did not read it all with what you might call an open mind.
I read the old testament as literature, and what fun literature it was. Quite an interesting read.
I read the new testament mostly so I could say to my xtian friends that I'd read the new testament. I found myself saying "yeah yeah yeah, whatever" to a lot of it.
Perhaps it would be a good idea for me to give it all another read. No harm in that.
OK, I'll bite.
I, myself, as a scientist and an atheist (although I believe the two have nothing to do with each other) have never read the important works of ID.
As an ID supporter, I am led to believe that you are liely an authority on what those important works are, and I ask you to kindly list those which you feel are most important.
I give you my word that I will read them all with a totally open mind.