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AOL Targets Digg, YouTube With New Netscape Site
Dotnaught writes "AOL has re-launched its Netscape.com portal as a place where user participation is balanced by moderator control. The renovated site will feature community-driven news and user-submitted video, guided by editors called anchors. "The hive mind sometimes doesn't do a thorough job," says Jason Calacanis, CEO of Weblogs, Inc., a blog network acquired last year by AOL."
Fear leads to anchors, anchors lead to hate..
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The earth goes round the sun, the middle east still has some.. ah... "problems", and Netscape STILL doesn't get it.
If they're targetting Digg (which I've never bothered to go to), aren't they targetting Slashdot somewhat too? Probably not a good idea though ... the editors just need to post two or three "netscape.com" stories a day. We'll see just how capable their site is at handling traffic ...
I talk about stuff.
I click on the Netscape headline about how it's a ripoff of Digg which leads to an article about how Netscape is ripping off of Digg which links back to the Netscape article about how it's a ripoff of Digg which leads to an article about how Netscape is ripping off of Digg. Also, Netscape is using those stupid popup adds that get around Firefox.
Ooo man the floppy drive is broken. No wait. The computer is just upside down.
this is the top story right now. which is kind of fitting
The war with islam is a war on the beast
The war on terror is a war for peace
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A project fork. :)
was a nono in 1999 in 2006 its taking the pi55, just link to it and drop the frames idea
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of course sites should have this Javascript in their code to stop other sites like this leeching content by way of a frame (known as a breakout script)
<script type="text/javascript">
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They aren't targeting Digg, they are using the idea of Digg. Digg is a site for tech news, and AOL is using the same format for general news.
Freedom would be not to choose between black and white but to abjure such prescribed choices. -Theodor Adorno
The page looks absolutely awful. The colour scheme is weak and amateurish, the AJAX is terribly, terribly slow, the "visit site" link (the most important button on a content portal) is, bizarrely, smaller than any other element in the article summary and hard to see against the site background, the adverts interrupt the placement of the content... overall, it's a total mess that looks like it's been thrown together with no real coherent plan. The worst type of imitation.
What it all boils down to is still the quality of the comments that the users post. Nothing else. There are dozens and dozens of story submission sites with some sort of social networking thingie, but it's really uninteresting unless there is a userbase with knowledge, experience, diversity and some degree of communication skills.
That is why sites like Digg et al is a miserable failure from that aspect; the comment section is entirely uninteresting and the intolerance and mob-mentality is mind-numbing. As a tool for staying within a 24hrs of the technology (hype) curve it is successful.
I read Slashdot for the comments and Digg/Playboy for the articles...
Oh, I can't help quoting you because everything that you said rings true
They just dont get it... They create the site, and then jam it full of soo many ads its almost unreadable.. You even get ads spaced in between the comments.
Plus it doesnt render properly for firefox.
In Soviet Russia the insensitive clod is YOU!
Social Networking sites have been doing this for ages, including Rupert's Myspace. What started as fairly simple became elaborate, with space for video , music, etc, and each site borrowed features from the others. This is what you call convergenge, where the basic features of facebook, tagworld, myspace, etc are all the same, with their own unique twist. Welcome to 5 years ago.
The site's intermittently up and down for me. Wow, I haven't seen the Netscape icon on Slashdot in a while.
Forget Google. Better Web Stats.
"The hive mind sometimes doesn't do a thorough job," says Jason Calacanis, CEO of Weblogs, Inc., a blog network acquired last year by AOL."
And AOL does do a thorough job? A thorough job of screwing up, maybe...
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Anyone else getting tired of seeing Beta slapped all over everything?
Too many adverts, and too many non complementing colours on the pages is my first impression. A site with feedback should flow well, you should be able to comfortable move from one comment to the other without being assaulted by significant changes every inch of the site.
In short, people won't want to stick around long because they won't feel comfortable.
Good forum example are here, or the X3-reunion forum. Nice layout, decent colour scheme, interesting to read, and very well moderated.
Does it say on digg that AOL Targets Slashdot, YouTube With New Netscape Site?
Who exactly is AOL trying to target with this? I mean, the simplicity/clickiness of Digg, but with the userbase of AOL? *shudder*
This guy's the limit!
Digg.com is down for an upgrade! Could this be the all inclusive version 3?
I feel like this article is out of the late 80's with those to companies in the title. BRING BACK THE FISH CAM! users can control that plastic diver who swims in the tank.
Reminds me of this pile of crap we have for our area.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
AOL + web 2.0 community sites...this is gonna be so awesome. Finally, all the lusers in the world, conveniently staying located at a single site.
Unpleasantries.
I saw "Netscape" in the article title, and began to wax nostalgic.
Does anyone remember when Netscape was the browser of choice? Then the moment that AOL bought Netscape, it went straight to crap, and I don't know anyone who uses Netscape as their web browser anymore.
Based on that (via an admitted quantum leap), I can't see how a Netscape link-aggregation site can possibly succeed in the face of very popular existing sites in the same vein.
Web 2.0 == Giant Blogspam Circle Jerk
So I'm going to throw out a bit of wild speculation for your entertainment.
This is potentially a threat to net neutrality. For one, netscape.com has 811 million pageviews per month. That's a shitload of traffic going here and there. What if Netscape's service does a slashdot effect many orders greater than what Slashdot itself can create? This will have many, MANY web providers and their customers going "My bandwidth is choked! My NICs are Frying!!! Throttle these people down, please!!!!!!" and the next thing you know everyone and their mother's ISP is going to lobby the government to get rid of net neutrality in order to protect their precious bandwidth and networks.
As I said, Wild Speculation. Take with a grain of salt.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
Coming from a company that cancels my email account if I don't use it for 30 days, I am less than enthused.
90% of the time, when I sign in to my Netscape email account, it has been deactivated. That's one of the reasons that my Yahoo and gmail accounts both get more use. I know they're trying to get me to sign in more often, but the fact that it is an effectively unreliable email address tends to produce the opposite effect.
What if I take a break and decide to stop using the portal for a month? Will they cancel my moderation capabilities when I try to use it again?
Besides, the Netscape home page always seems to be pushing celebrity photos and gossip. Who needs it!?
Signatures are a waste of bandwi (buffering...)
And yet somehow their tagging system is out of beta...
- RG>
Hey pal, this isn't a pleasantforest, so don't waste my time with pleasantries!
The comments are great
RUPERT! I TOLD YOU TO WATCH THE BAGS! You were looking at the boys again, WEREN'T YOU.
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For some reason I read the article summary as this:
'The AOL has re-gurgitated its Netscape.com portal as a place where user
participation is monitored by master-controllers. The renovated site
will feature minion-driven news and peon-submitted video, guided
by godlike editor entities called anchors. "The hive mind sometimes
doesn't do a thorough job", says The Queen, Overlord of Weblogs, Inc.,
a mind-control network acquired last year by the AOL.'
Don't ask me why...
"AOL Copies Digg" hahahahahaha.
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Speak truth to power.
I'll give it a chance. It does, after all, have the brand name of a portal site thats flopped about eight times previous to this. And an outdated web browser that passed it's prime in the late 1990s. Does AOL still have a marketing department?
I agree. I wrote at Digg:I see a lot of this illusion of competition among bloggers who are obsessed with Technorati and Alexa rankings, and seem to think that if someone reads their blog and another blog that's similar in nature, they're somehow losing something. Frankly, I just don't get that. As I said in my quoted comment, I don't see how this is a zero-sum situation. Does it diminish Digg's importance because I also read Reddit, Fantacular, and (until it vanished) 180News? Of course not.
Personally, I view this new Netscape News site as a hybrid of Slashdot, Digg, and TotalFark. Those are three of my favorite sites on the Internets, for entirely different reasons: Digg is great for breaking news and links, Slashdot is great for intelligent conversation (uh, at +5, anyway) and TotalFark is great for boobies and beer. I go where my mood takes me, and always leave happy.
I really like the channels at Netscape News, so I can read science and sports stories, while ignoring all the celebrity bullshit that is sure to populate the front page. That is what's so great about all these sites, and the philosophy behind them: the users not only get to determine what's featured (guided in some cases by editors) but we also get to determine what we read, or even see. We get news and information that's relevant to each of us, and we have several different formats from which to collect it.
Heh. As I've been writing this, I see that Kevin Rose said something similar:All of these sites can clearly co-exist, just as major newspapers and magazines have for decades.
- VoIP - recently came out of beta
- AOL broadband - Implemented, scrapped, and implemented again
- Cheap dial-up - way after the market was already saturated
- Portals, portals, more portals - aol.com getting a makeover twice a year; traffic and ad revenue not really increasing
- Search - there was a big AOL push to improve their search a couple of years ago
- Online music sales - way after iTunes was rolled out; limited to TW labels only
- Online shopping - they were fairly early here, but with a poor implementation, and it was only available to their subscribers
Suffice it to say that this company no longer has any vision; they seem to have become a bunch of old fuddy-duddies trying to surf the wave of every fad when the wave has already broken on the beach."Teleporting Rodents with D-Cell Battery Displacement" theory -- IgnoramusMaximus (692000)
Is it me or is AOL like a drowning man grabbing at anything that might keep him afloat?
A "new" Netscape site eh? Did they add a Shopping button?
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I got this: Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat) Server at celebrities.beta.netscape.com Port 80 attempting to sign up.
I thought netscape/aol had some server software? Sad and quite typical they don't use their product.
Thank dog I've got flash blocker.
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