Since when do talibans have internet access in the caves? Who is there IT person and can I hire him and strike a blow to there ability to read the leaks?
I always find it funny when people set a number, "If you knew say you could add 2 to 3 million potential customers"
Some say, based on web site hits to non-geek sites, that linux is.5% of the hits so it is a small % of the total computer market. So lets take a quick look at that.5%
As of 2004 there were an estimated 223,810,000 Personal computers. Note, these are not servers these are Personal computers for home use.
So what is.5% of that you may ask?? (Came from a site that was a financial site geared towards 45-55 year old men)
1,119,050 Linux desktops, Yep that little.5% is 1.1 million users!!
The more I hear of this the more I think we should declare the lot of them "Common Carriers"
"A common carrier holds itself out to provide service to the general public without discrimination (to meet the needs of the regulator's quasi judicial role of impartiality toward the public's interest) for the "public convenience and necessity". -- Cut some out -- in the United States the term may also refer to telecommunications providers and public utilities" -- Wikipedia
Stops the whole "Net Neutrality" issue and gives them some extended protections. If they want to say thay are not common carriers, I say we throw the lot of them in jail for transportation of child pornography. Every one of them provides it to there customers and seeing as they are not protected as a common carrier then they can be responsible for what they carry.
This reminds me of the copyright protection on the Commodore 64 games and the game crackers.
No matter what you can come up with, the spammers will find a way around. RBL's, disposable domains, IP banning => IP Spoofing, the list goes on. This may not be a winnable fight.
I hate to say that because I have had my e-mail address for 10 years now and average 300 spam messages a day. Thanks to Spam assassin and a probability filter I can knock it down to only 3 or 4 a day getting through.
Maybe it is time to stop fighting the spammers and start training the users!
Ok, a better idea. No more central credit reporting. They all rely on that, and it is exactly what the information leads to. So if every bank had to manage there own credit reporting and rely on there report with the customer then there would be no identity theft.
If the local branch of XYZ bank knows Joe Smith then it is hard for Jack to walk in and convince them that he is Joe. Add to it that Jack going to ABC bank and saying he is Joe does not get him any better chance of credit as he would have to take time and build a report with ABC Bank to get the credit.
Banks and many others seem to take the information in the three major credit agency files as golden and they rely on it for everything from loans to apartment rentals. The problem is that any information that is used to verify the identity of the person and connect them to the report can be found out and used by those who are less than honest. This leads to fraud and thus to issues.
Remove the three agencies and there is no more identity theft. When I have to work with the bank to build my credit at that bank it is hard for some one to steal it.
The Licensing for MSDN does not give you the ability to set up your business using all the products! The products are licensed for DEVELOPMENT ONLY.
My boss thought that he could buy the MSDN for everyone and that would cover the desktop, office, outlook, MS Access, domain controllers, etc, etc. Now they are out of business because of Microsoft!
I stopped reading the article when I read "Dr. Wurman said that amateur storm chasers rarely offer useful information"
It always bothers me when people with PhD's discount the information provided by amateurs. More than 1/2 the PhD's I have worked with tend to have a belief that if you do not have a degree in the subject you can not possibly provide any useful research data or that there is no way you can know what you are talking about.
If they are worried about the numbers of amateur storm chasers maybe they should have a conference with them and train them in proper data collection and where to report it. Then the people they think are "getting in the way" could be helpful and add to the body of scientific knowledge.
But then they would have to admit that anyone can do science and not just the PhD's. We can't have that, we have to pack the class rooms so they can get paid.
/me steps down from his soap box and kicks it back to the wall where his degrees hang.
Agree and with disposable phone in the 9$ range with 20$ card and txts at.10 each it seems they could use something other than the government provided phone.
Now how about a ruling that all government agencies have to keep copies of all texts and make them part of the public record to promote transparency in government. That would be news and something I would be interested in. lol
My daughters school added the requirement that she have a laptop for school. The school here said that it must run Windows and have Microsoft Office on it.
I gave her a new Toshiba with Fedora Core and open office. She is happy with it, then I get a note from the school that It must be Windows because they had software to install that required windows. I told then that if they would let me know what the software does I would be more than happy to find a similar package for Linux or to set it up in a restricted virtual environment.
Never hear another thing from them. IMHO if the school wants to require an OS or Specific software packages then they need to pony up the money for the laptop and set it up the way they want it.
QuickBooks offers an online service as do most of the accounting firms I have looked into recently.
You want businesses that can be migrated, how about
Lawyers (1 in 256 Americans) Doctors MD ( 2.3 per 1000 Americans) Insurance companies Real estate companies Car Lots (Car Sales) Banks Major Airlines
The List goes on, Sure there are a few that could not change. Although for your example you could ditch the windows systems and install Catia V5 R16 on AIX with linux servers. If you have to have a CAD program that is not on windows. However, if enough companies started migrating to Linux then I would bet that Autocad would release a linux version.
There will always be an instance where you will need to run something different, I am not suggesting that EVERYONE run linux. However, there are a lot that can and migration is a path that should be considered.
Funny, does your standard office worker use AutoDesk or AutoCAD? Are the PCB Designs being handled by your secretary?
I can pick and choose points where linux will not work and apps that will not work. Nit picking select apps used by a selectively small portion of the business community to show that linux will not work for everyone is crazy.
OpenERP for an OSS solution. But why would you expect the company to run an OSS accounting package when there are several commercial ones that run on Linux or are web based.
You dont have to run all OSS software to use linux on the desktop.
No I am not in the IT part of the Fortune 500 (Roll Eyes) I dont manage the desktops. I manage the Hp-UX, Solaris, and Linux servers. We have been migrating away from Windows servers.
Ill challenge the notion that end-users will need retraining. Have you tried to use anything under a Linux Desktop? There would not need to be any retraining as it works the same as the XP, 2000, etc. desktop. Desktop support techs would need minimal retraining as it can be set up with buttons from the L1 point of view to fix or restore an image. As to the admins, fire them and hire new ones that know how to manage Linux systems. It is getting harder and harder to find a windows admin that dose not know how to manage linux.
As to "Those handy applications" Name one! Everyone talks about how the apps would need to be rewritten but what apps?
Let me see what is installed on my desktop
Ms Office, Outlook, Adobe Reader, Roxio CD/DVD Creator, Symantec Antivirus, Symantec Firewall, Firefox, and a custom Helpdesk app that opens IE and takes me to the webpage for Helpdesk.
That is it and this is a standard desktop install here. Every bit of it can be replaced and run on linux.
I would tend to agree but in today's offices there really is not a lot of specialty software. 99.9% of the users use office, e-mail, chat, and a very small list of other common apps. Heck, where I am now, the accounting and other custom application are all run on HPUX or Solaris systems and the people open a terminal to the remote server to access them. It was done because it costs less to manage the apps that way, no need to distribute them to the desktops, etc.
Maybe I am wrong and smaller companies pay to have custom apps written for the desktop or maybe small companies are using custom apps to do stuff. Dont know, all the companies I have worked for in the last 15 years are Fortune 500.
I am at a Fortune 500 and everything is still XP. Most companies I know are not migrating at this time.
Although, if they have to retrain (Citing time and cost) Plus the cost of a new license then why not move to Linux and at least drop one of the costs (Licensing)
After a little digging I find that it is suspected in everything from breast cancer to obesity in children. It has been suspected as being bad sense the 1930's but there is no direct link to it causing any notable issues.
So in 80+ years of research the best they can come up with is "There may be an issue with Bisphenol-A"
It also seems to me that in 3 generations we would have seen a difference or at a minimum science should be able to say "It causes XXX"
Office, Explorer, Outlook, and maybe an IM software. That is about it.
Sure your accountants will use an accounting software, which BTW, in large corporations and government offices tends to be a UNIX app that they telnet or open a terminal to.
So tell me, in what area is Linux not going to work for standard office work?
Slashdot Mirror
/me laughs
Get worked up and F*** up what you are trying to say. LOL
Must be Tuesday, Never could get the hang of Tuesdays.
I would not have expected Slashdot to have a story like this but oh well!
MSNBC is telling us how the Tea Party is raciest and the designated tours of Washington DC are designed to avoid black areas.
Fox has had show after show about two new books on how Obama has circumvented the Constitution and sold us down the river.
All I have seen on CNN is how the markets are collapsing and everything is circling the drain
Personally I think we should send Washington, as well as both the parties a simple message
YOUR FIRED! Clean out your desk and get in the unemployment line like the rest of US!
It really is time for some new blood in Washington.
How much time have we wasted playing that game over and over. I bet I can blow his 20,000 hours in 5 year out of the water!
Since when do talibans have internet access in the caves? Who is there IT person and can I hire him and strike a blow to there ability to read the leaks?
I always find it funny when people set a number, "If you knew say you could add
2 to 3 million potential customers"
Some say, based on web site hits to non-geek sites, that linux is .5% of the hits so it is a small % of the total computer market. So lets take a quick look at that .5%
As of 2004 there were an estimated 223,810,000 Personal computers. Note, these are not servers these are Personal computers for home use.
So what is .5% of that you may ask?? (Came from a site that was a financial site geared towards 45-55 year old men)
1,119,050 Linux desktops, Yep that little .5% is 1.1 million users!!
The more I hear of this the more I think we should declare the lot of them "Common Carriers"
"A common carrier holds itself out to provide service to the general public without discrimination (to meet the needs of the regulator's quasi judicial role of impartiality toward the public's interest) for the "public convenience and necessity". -- Cut some out -- in the United States the term may also refer to telecommunications providers and public utilities" -- Wikipedia
Stops the whole "Net Neutrality" issue and gives them some extended protections. If they want to say thay are not common carriers, I say we throw the lot of them in jail for transportation of child pornography. Every one of them provides it to there customers and seeing as they are not protected as a common carrier then they can be responsible for what they carry.
Just my 2 cents
Mine is that hot here in Texas. lol
This reminds me of the copyright protection on the Commodore 64 games and the game crackers.
No matter what you can come up with, the spammers will find a way around. RBL's, disposable domains, IP banning => IP Spoofing, the list goes on. This may not be a winnable fight.
I hate to say that because I have had my e-mail address for 10 years now and average 300 spam messages a day. Thanks to Spam assassin and a probability filter I can knock it down to only 3 or 4 a day getting through.
Maybe it is time to stop fighting the spammers and start training the users!
Ok, so it costs 20$ to make. I have the 20$ I just need the instructions and the Linux Drivers. Come on MIT we are waiting! ;)
Ok, a better idea. No more central credit reporting. They all rely on that, and it is exactly what the information leads to. So if every bank had to manage there own credit reporting and rely on there report with the customer then there would be no identity theft.
If the local branch of XYZ bank knows Joe Smith then it is hard for Jack to walk in and convince them that he is Joe. Add to it that Jack going to ABC bank and saying he is Joe does not get him any better chance of credit as he would have to take time and build a report with ABC Bank to get the credit.
Banks and many others seem to take the information in the three major credit agency files as golden and they rely on it for everything from loans to apartment rentals. The problem is that any information that is used to verify the identity of the person and connect them to the report can be found out and used by those who are less than honest. This leads to fraud and thus to issues.
Remove the three agencies and there is no more identity theft. When I have to work with the bank to build my credit at that bank it is hard for some one to steal it.
I had a boss once that thought like you.
The Licensing for MSDN does not give you the ability to set up your business using all the products! The products are licensed for DEVELOPMENT ONLY.
My boss thought that he could buy the MSDN for everyone and that would cover the desktop, office, outlook, MS Access, domain controllers, etc, etc. Now they are out of business because of Microsoft!
SCO? LOL
Most movies cost $800,000 + to shoot. At 1$ a frame and 24 frames a sec, a standard 190 min movie only comes out to $273,600. Seems low
Remember, Hollywood movies can cost from $10,000,000 to $100,000,000 to shoot and produce so compared to that it is nothing.
I stopped reading the article when I read "Dr. Wurman said that amateur storm chasers rarely offer useful information"
It always bothers me when people with PhD's discount the information provided by amateurs. More than 1/2 the PhD's I have worked with tend to have a belief that if you do not have a degree in the subject you can not possibly provide any useful research data or that there is no way you can know what you are talking about.
If they are worried about the numbers of amateur storm chasers maybe they should have a conference with them and train them in proper data collection and where to report it. Then the people they think are "getting in the way" could be helpful and add to the body of scientific knowledge.
But then they would have to admit that anyone can do science and not just the PhD's. We can't have that, we have to pack the class rooms so they can get paid.
Agree and with disposable phone in the 9$ range with 20$ card and txts at .10 each it seems they could use something other than the government provided phone.
Now how about a ruling that all government agencies have to keep copies of all texts and make them part of the public record to promote transparency in government. That would be news and something I would be interested in. lol
So outsourcing is working and now Gates wants to bring it back to the US?
Wasn't he one of the ones who pushed for outsourcing?
*Joking for those who can not tell*
My daughters school added the requirement that she have a laptop for school. The school here said that it must run Windows and have Microsoft Office on it.
I gave her a new Toshiba with Fedora Core and open office. She is happy with it, then I get a note from the school that It must be Windows because they had software to install that required windows. I told then that if they would let me know what the software does I would be more than happy to find a similar package for Linux or to set it up in a restricted virtual environment.
Never hear another thing from them. IMHO if the school wants to require an OS or Specific software packages then they need to pony up the money for the laptop and set it up the way they want it.
QuickBooks offers an online service as do most of the accounting firms I have looked into recently.
You want businesses that can be migrated, how about
Lawyers (1 in 256 Americans)
Doctors MD ( 2.3 per 1000 Americans)
Insurance companies
Real estate companies
Car Lots (Car Sales)
Banks
Major Airlines
The List goes on, Sure there are a few that could not change. Although for your example you could ditch the windows systems and install Catia V5 R16 on AIX with linux servers. If you have to have a CAD program that is not on windows. However, if enough companies started migrating to Linux then I would bet that Autocad would release a linux version.
There will always be an instance where you will need to run something different, I am not suggesting that EVERYONE run linux. However, there are a lot that can and migration is a path that should be considered.
Funny, does your standard office worker use AutoDesk or AutoCAD? Are the PCB Designs being handled by your secretary?
I can pick and choose points where linux will not work and apps that will not work. Nit picking select apps used by a selectively small portion of the business community to show that linux will not work for everyone is crazy.
OpenERP for an OSS solution. But why would you expect the company to run an OSS accounting package when there are several commercial ones that run on Linux or are web based.
You dont have to run all OSS software to use linux on the desktop.
No I am not in the IT part of the Fortune 500 (Roll Eyes) I dont manage the desktops. I manage the Hp-UX, Solaris, and Linux servers. We have been migrating away from Windows servers.
Ill challenge the notion that end-users will need retraining. Have you tried to use anything under a Linux Desktop? There would not need to be any retraining as it works the same as the XP, 2000, etc. desktop. Desktop support techs would need minimal retraining as it can be set up with buttons from the L1 point of view to fix or restore an image. As to the admins, fire them and hire new ones that know how to manage Linux systems. It is getting harder and harder to find a windows admin that dose not know how to manage linux.
As to "Those handy applications" Name one! Everyone talks about how the apps would need to be rewritten but what apps?
Let me see what is installed on my desktop
Ms Office, Outlook, Adobe Reader, Roxio CD/DVD Creator, Symantec Antivirus, Symantec Firewall, Firefox, and a custom Helpdesk app that opens IE and takes me to the webpage for Helpdesk.
That is it and this is a standard desktop install here. Every bit of it can be replaced and run on linux.
I would tend to agree but in today's offices there really is not a lot of specialty software. 99.9% of the users use office, e-mail, chat, and a very small list of other common apps. Heck, where I am now, the accounting and other custom application are all run on HPUX or Solaris systems and the people open a terminal to the remote server to access them. It was done because it costs less to manage the apps that way, no need to distribute them to the desktops, etc.
Maybe I am wrong and smaller companies pay to have custom apps written for the desktop or maybe small companies are using custom apps to do stuff. Dont know, all the companies I have worked for in the last 15 years are Fortune 500.
I am at a Fortune 500 and everything is still XP. Most companies I know are not migrating at this time.
Although, if they have to retrain (Citing time and cost) Plus the cost of a new license then why not move to Linux and at least drop one of the costs (Licensing)
After a little digging I find that it is suspected in everything from breast cancer to obesity in children. It has been suspected as being bad sense the 1930's but there is no direct link to it causing any notable issues.
So in 80+ years of research the best they can come up with is "There may be an issue with Bisphenol-A"
It also seems to me that in 3 generations we would have seen a difference or at a minimum science should be able to say "It causes XXX"
Bull Shit!
What do people use at work?
Office, Explorer, Outlook, and maybe an IM software. That is about it.
Sure your accountants will use an accounting software, which BTW, in large corporations and government offices tends to be a UNIX app that they telnet or open a terminal to.
So tell me, in what area is Linux not going to work for standard office work?