I agree with you. Some people here really do think that every desktop should be using Linux os some variation, but I'm firmly convinced that it's not ready for primetime yet (ever?).
If somebody buys a Linux computer then they basically have said "I don't want to buy 97% of the software on the shelf," and "Reconfiguring things by command line is FUN!"
But most of all they abandon all tech support. Most ISP's don't offer phone support for Linux at all. Even though I understand and can use Linux I'm still not going to even try and help somebody on an unfamiliar distro.
Fry's was probably doing the right thing in saying: This computer works, but if you don't understand it then you can easily buy WinXP from us for $300. However, it's still odd to make concessions for a product even before it's been sold...
I like ChatZilla too, it's nice because my boss lets me install Firebird but not mIRC. He'll never notice a simple firebird plugin called chatzilla that opens up right alongside my web browser;)
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I left that second one just to be friendly. I guess that did a lot of good for his poor server which probably detonated sometime right after...
No, they may have a genuine issue here, but the problem is that they won't say "Which" lines infringe. If they did then the case would dissolve overnight as Linus released a new kernel. And they sure as shit don't want that happening!
Linux code should be de-SCOed to prevent this sort of problem from continuing to flair up
The community would, but SCO won't release what infringes against their IP because they're afraid that's exactly what we'll do. It's like going into a lost and found and yelling that you have something of theirs then when asked what it is not saying.
Does the SCO IP License for Linux include a media kit? No. Nothing needs to be installed on the server or embedded device.
Excellent. I just purchased $700 of nothing. That'll be easy to justify to the boss
I have Linux servers deployed in my organization. What options do I have besides purchasing a SCO IP license? There are 3 options for you to evaluate:
You have the option to do nothing, adopt a "wait and see" attitude, and hope that SCO is not serious about enforcing its intellectual property rights in the end user community.
You can replace all servers, desktop and embedded uses of Linux.
You can obtain a license from SCO to use SCO IP in binary form in Linux distributions
Cover your ass, install Windows, or pay up, bitch!
How are the licenses activated? Licenses are activated by registering the license with SCO and identifying the system covered by the license. The identification of the system can follow whatever identification conventions you use internally. (i.e., by name, by location, etc.)
See your wallet becoming lighter? Good! Now you are compliant! Get on your knees!
I'm trying to be subversive in letting people know about MS bugs. At the help desk I work at right now when somebody calls about this damn MiMail trojan going around I always tell them the following:
"That email is a trojan horse which is exploiting insecure MICROSOFT programs, code, and servers. You can safely delete it. If you have opened it then please follow these instructions...."
That's be refreshing seeing a press release from MS that looked like:
REDMOND, WASHINGTON: LINUX BETTER THAN WINDOWS
Today in a competitive test pitting the performance, TCO, and overall geek factors of Windows Server 2003 vs. Linux a final answer was reached: Linux is faster, better, cheaper, and geekier than Windows.
Informed of the results that the Microsoft lab found, Bill Gates (Microsoft Founder and Chief Software Architect) remarked "Somebody ain't getting bonuses this year!"
Commenting on the results Steve Ballmer (Microsoft CEO) said "We have seen the light. On January 1, 2004 all Microsoft products will be released under the GPL and fully open-sourced," her added, "in addition, we have voluntarly sold all of our business assets to OSDN and Red Hat collectively."
Also announced was a plan to sink $10 Billion into a "Kill those Bastards SCO" Fund.
George Broussard of 3D Realms has already talked about preventing third-parties from publishing guides to Duke Nukem Forever, by not allowing them to use screenshots.
I don't think we have to worry about printed guides for DNF. By the time that that vapor-ware comes out everything shall be delivered in the "plug in the back of head" matrix-style.
This is a concern for a lot of people at LAN parties as well. When you bring your computer ans it's associated accessories (mouse, keyboard, cell, batteries, camera, etc.) with you then there's always the chenacce that something will get swiped.
At least for LAN parties the best way to protect your gear is to get to know the people sitting around you. Know who's going to be around your computer and if you see somebody picking up stuff off your neighbor's computer give him shit about it.
Also, bringing a backpack or something is a great idea; at the end of the evening at Quakecon at least you can always toss your stuff into the backpack (stuff like mice and headphones) and go up to your hotel room. It's unlikely that somebody will try to walk out with your massive monitor, but a mouse is easy to slip into a pocket or something.
Most people are considerate and don't take stuff when they themselves have 2-3k of equipment with them too. Bad apples get crushed fast.
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I thought that they were botth up there. We could have killed two birds w/ one stone:
1) First space wedding
2) First space fucking
That would be the DVD set of season two. Please read the parent.
There's an interview with Futurama Exec. Producer David X. Cohen on IGN
Here's the story
Finally! Now I can watch The Daily Show at 10pm (CST) instead of waiting till midnite! Thanks Adult Swim!
FYI: Season two comes out this Tuesday.
I agree with you. Some people here really do think that every desktop should be using Linux os some variation, but I'm firmly convinced that it's not ready for primetime yet (ever?).
If somebody buys a Linux computer then they basically have said "I don't want to buy 97% of the software on the shelf," and "Reconfiguring things by command line is FUN!"
But most of all they abandon all tech support. Most ISP's don't offer phone support for Linux at all. Even though I understand and can use Linux I'm still not going to even try and help somebody on an unfamiliar distro.
Fry's was probably doing the right thing in saying: This computer works, but if you don't understand it then you can easily buy WinXP from us for $300. However, it's still odd to make concessions for a product even before it's been sold...
Pay reasonable prices and try to buy only things that are made in the USA. Remember that you're going to get what you pay for.
So does that include these guys?
I like ChatZilla too, it's nice because my boss lets me install Firebird but not mIRC. He'll never notice a simple firebird plugin called chatzilla that opens up right alongside my web browser ;)
I left that second one just to be friendly. I guess that did a lot of good for his poor server which probably detonated sometime right after...
Ahh, the joys of being a subscriber!
No, they may have a genuine issue here, but the problem is that they won't say "Which" lines infringe. If they did then the case would dissolve overnight as Linus released a new kernel. And they sure as shit don't want that happening!
Check out Tivo's Linux page
Looks to me like they've been using 2.4 since Tivo Software version 3.0
Linux code should be de-SCOed to prevent this sort of problem from continuing to flair up
The community would, but SCO won't release what infringes against their IP because they're afraid that's exactly what we'll do. It's like going into a lost and found and yelling that you have something of theirs then when asked what it is not saying.
but.....SCO.....untrustworthy?.....no!.....
/. being anti-Microsoft...
I miss the good old days of
Here's some things from their IP FAQ:
Does the SCO IP License for Linux include a media kit?
No. Nothing needs to be installed on the server or embedded device.
Excellent. I just purchased $700 of nothing. That'll be easy to justify to the boss
I have Linux servers deployed in my organization. What options do I have besides purchasing a SCO IP license?
There are 3 options for you to evaluate:
You have the option to do nothing, adopt a "wait and see" attitude, and hope that SCO is not serious about enforcing its intellectual property rights in the end user community.
You can replace all servers, desktop and embedded uses of Linux.
You can obtain a license from SCO to use SCO IP in binary form in Linux distributions
Cover your ass, install Windows, or pay up, bitch!
How are the licenses activated?
Licenses are activated by registering the license with SCO and identifying the system covered by the license. The identification of the system can follow whatever identification conventions you use internally. (i.e., by name, by location, etc.)
See your wallet becoming lighter? Good! Now you are compliant! Get on your knees!
Everybody should call SCO now and demand:
1) WHAT you get by paying them
2) WHAT part of linux infringes
3) TO SEE PROOF of infringement
When they don't provide it then it's time for lawsuits out the wazoo!
My pornographic movie fits into ALL of those categories.
Which, for me, is a good thing. Not everybody has one right now and it's still seen as a "cool" device that people pine for.
Once they become Walkmans then nobody'll care about the iPod anymore...
I'm trying to be subversive in letting people know about MS bugs. At the help desk I work at right now when somebody calls about this damn MiMail trojan going around I always tell them the following:
"That email is a trojan horse which is exploiting insecure MICROSOFT programs, code, and servers. You can safely delete it. If you have opened it then please follow these instructions...."
Will half-truths be considered facts?
They seem to work for our government right now...
That's be refreshing seeing a press release from MS that looked like:
REDMOND, WASHINGTON: LINUX BETTER THAN WINDOWS
Today in a competitive test pitting the performance, TCO, and overall geek factors of Windows Server 2003 vs. Linux a final answer was reached: Linux is faster, better, cheaper, and geekier than Windows.
Informed of the results that the Microsoft lab found, Bill Gates (Microsoft Founder and Chief Software Architect) remarked "Somebody ain't getting bonuses this year!"
Commenting on the results Steve Ballmer (Microsoft CEO) said "We have seen the light. On January 1, 2004 all Microsoft products will be released under the GPL and fully open-sourced," her added, "in addition, we have voluntarly sold all of our business assets to OSDN and Red Hat collectively."
Also announced was a plan to sink $10 Billion into a "Kill those Bastards SCO" Fund.
Every company under the sun makes an el cheapo MP3 player. Even Nike!
Who needs SWG when I've got KOTOR? It's a lot more fun, has great voice acting and story, and won't cost me $10+/month.
Quake 3 and its accompanying mods run fine on both platforms.
George Broussard of 3D Realms has already talked about preventing third-parties from publishing guides to Duke Nukem Forever, by not allowing them to use screenshots.
I don't think we have to worry about printed guides for DNF. By the time that that vapor-ware comes out everything shall be delivered in the "plug in the back of head" matrix-style.
This is a concern for a lot of people at LAN parties as well. When you bring your computer ans it's associated accessories (mouse, keyboard, cell, batteries, camera, etc.) with you then there's always the chenacce that something will get swiped.
At least for LAN parties the best way to protect your gear is to get to know the people sitting around you. Know who's going to be around your computer and if you see somebody picking up stuff off your neighbor's computer give him shit about it.
Also, bringing a backpack or something is a great idea; at the end of the evening at Quakecon at least you can always toss your stuff into the backpack (stuff like mice and headphones) and go up to your hotel room. It's unlikely that somebody will try to walk out with your massive monitor, but a mouse is easy to slip into a pocket or something.
Most people are considerate and don't take stuff when they themselves have 2-3k of equipment with them too. Bad apples get crushed fast.