thanks for the links; they look promising but i wanted to respond prior to examining them in greater detail.
i agree that canada and the US are necessarily more diverse as centers of immigration; heck, my own parents are immigrants.
one thing, though: we clearly disagree re: whether western/eastern can be parsed to caucasian/asian. that's fine. however, solely in the context of the parent post and its parent, that seemed to be implied. perhaps i was misreading, and i freely admit that may have been the case.
i should think that emergency responders would be among the approved entities to have access to this data.
my big question: how current is this data? it's taken years to compile and in that time, natural disasters and the like would have changed some elements, rendering certain data inaccurate. that's why db records invariably have a "last updated" date/time stamp field in 'em. the only thing worse than no data is data whose accuracy is in question, IMX.
are you deliberately suggesting that asians are somehow morally deficient and that caucasians are somehow morally superior, or is that an unfortunate byproduct of your particular points?
a few years ago, i was working for a publishing company that served the financial services industry, providing corporate fundamental data for emerging markets. one country we covered was estonia.
when doing research (in 1998) i was amazed at just how much better a site the tallinn stock exchange had compared even to the NYSE, AMEX, etc. kinda feeling a bit nostalgic, i just hopped over there and it's still a nice site: clean, simple design, etc. you can see it here: http://www.hex.ee/index.php?id=2&lang=en
interesting that tallinn integrated with the riga and helsinki bourses. and merging with OM is mighty interesting: the exchange consolidation game is still going strong, i see.
looking quickly, at first i thought you were talking about R2D2, everybody's favorite astromech droid. my immediate thought in response was "gee, but they released a slew of lines designated r3-r6*. who needs that many lines of droids?" are they running some flavor of linux in the star wars universe?
ed
*expanded universe entities only, although an r4 is the astromech droid that dies during ep4, prompting lars to buy R2D2 instead.
i'd argue the philosophy is more "if it ain't broke *now*". isn't this what led to PHBs refusing to make necessary system changes well in advance of y2k? so of course, there was a run on COBOL & fortran developers in the 4-5 years leading up to it.
i don't know what level of sophistication your users have, but can't you create a series of shared network folders instead, and ban attachments on internal messages? as you note, e-mailing bloated docs puts an unnecessary burden on your servers & backup processes, i imagine.
there should be a way to control access to the folders, in case there's sensitive materials to boot. i don't have any more suggestions, since i don't know what kind of environment you've got, but this would seem pretty straightforward, at least conceptually.
true: i'm sure one of the key considerations driving this decision was ensuring an upgrade path to another OS within the M$ family remains viable and even attractive, esp. WRT servers.
the desktops, OTOH, i'm thinking they don't care so much, considering most vendors don't offer NT as an option anymore...
now that's a question: can you even get NT on a new box from a vendor if you really, really wanted? i mean, you could always install it yourself of course, but that's not what i'm talking about.
i dunno about everyone else, but me, i see this as a golden opportunity to whine about the entire US gov't procurement system. i'm not familiar w/ it (although i'm sure someone here is and has already had his post modded +5 informative) but my understanding is it's painfully bad.
"but what is wrong with simply working hard and producing your product with craft and skill and not resorting to all sorts of "strategies for success"?"
b/c superior product doesn't always win. remember betamax?
i don't know what kind of businesses you 've worked in but IMX, management always wants to be the top dog in the field. i used to work at a large financial services company and every single one of those execs is driven by that objective.
management (particularly upper management) wants to examine any tool to develop and maintain market share dominance. doing anything less is bad for your shareholders (assuming you're a listed company). nobody wants to be the betamax of their industry.
i think we should use betamax as a verb: e.g., "ah, apple's got some great technology but they've betamaxed". this isn't to say that anything apple does is bad: on the contrary, i like what i read, but marketshare is something it doesn't really have, and since profits come w/ marketshare...
i agree with mr. greene that the most polluting passenger vehicles are likely to remain on the road this way.
however, i should point out that we don't know where these ebay auctions will cap out. certainly, the first few will get pretty out there, but i suspect that as they continue to auction them off, the prices are likely to flatten out a bit more.
i mean, the first "treat me as HOV" sticker will likely wind up being displayed on bill gates's car, but 52nd one? the 187th one? i'm sure that these will not sell for as much as the first one.
i'm very curious to see over what block of time they choose to do this.
Slashdot Mirror
ya know, i've never heard it that way before...and to think, some hold that reading slashdot is a waste of time... :>
ed
thanks for the links; they look promising but i wanted to respond prior to examining them in greater detail.
i agree that canada and the US are necessarily more diverse as centers of immigration; heck, my own parents are immigrants.
one thing, though: we clearly disagree re: whether western/eastern can be parsed to caucasian/asian. that's fine. however, solely in the context of the parent post and its parent, that seemed to be implied. perhaps i was misreading, and i freely admit that may have been the case.
ed
actually, i rather thought his post was flamebait myself, to be honest, but that's neither here nor there.
but consider: western / eastern generally parses to caucasian / asian, does it not? so maybe i was being paranoid, maybe not. i won't rule it out.
and "racially diverse" is kinda misleading: that could in fact mean any number of things.
ed
i should think that emergency responders would be among the approved entities to have access to this data.
my big question: how current is this data? it's taken years to compile and in that time, natural disasters and the like would have changed some elements, rendering certain data inaccurate. that's why db records invariably have a "last updated" date/time stamp field in 'em. the only thing worse than no data is data whose accuracy is in question, IMX.
ed
eschew obfuscation
scottkin:
are you deliberately suggesting that asians are somehow morally deficient and that caucasians are somehow morally superior, or is that an unfortunate byproduct of your particular points?
ed
usually, it gets modded up, then another moderator mods it down. i've seen it happen to my posts, too and i agree, it looks weird.
ed
i dunno how old you guys are, but i still think of kirsten dunst as the kid from interview with a vampire.
ed
a few years ago, i was working for a publishing company that served the financial services industry, providing corporate fundamental data for emerging markets. one country we covered was estonia.
when doing research (in 1998) i was amazed at just how much better a site the tallinn stock exchange had compared even to the NYSE, AMEX, etc. kinda feeling a bit nostalgic, i just hopped over there and it's still a nice site: clean, simple design, etc. you can see it here: http://www.hex.ee/index.php?id=2&lang=en
interesting that tallinn integrated with the riga and helsinki bourses. and merging with OM is mighty interesting: the exchange consolidation game is still going strong, i see.
ed
nope; they were sold off last night in a bid to raise money to support for prosecuting the war on [noun].
:>
might i suggest reading another news site that isn't slashdot?
ed
looking quickly, at first i thought you were talking about R2D2, everybody's favorite astromech droid. my immediate thought in response was "gee, but they released a slew of lines designated r3-r6*. who needs that many lines of droids?" are they running some flavor of linux in the star wars universe?
ed
*expanded universe entities only, although an r4 is the astromech droid that dies during ep4, prompting lars to buy R2D2 instead.
couldn't it also being adversely affected by overall I/O issues related to that worm sobig?
ed
i'd argue the philosophy is more "if it ain't broke *now*". isn't this what led to PHBs refusing to make necessary system changes well in advance of y2k? so of course, there was a run on COBOL & fortran developers in the 4-5 years leading up to it.
ed
i don't know what level of sophistication your users have, but can't you create a series of shared network folders instead, and ban attachments on internal messages? as you note, e-mailing bloated docs puts an unnecessary burden on your servers & backup processes, i imagine.
there should be a way to control access to the folders, in case there's sensitive materials to boot. i don't have any more suggestions, since i don't know what kind of environment you've got, but this would seem pretty straightforward, at least conceptually.
ed
true: i'm sure one of the key considerations driving this decision was ensuring an upgrade path to another OS within the M$ family remains viable and even attractive, esp. WRT servers.
the desktops, OTOH, i'm thinking they don't care so much, considering most vendors don't offer NT as an option anymore...
now that's a question: can you even get NT on a new box from a vendor if you really, really wanted? i mean, you could always install it yourself of course, but that's not what i'm talking about.
ed
well, close...
hey, this is nifty: w/ my preferences set to +1, i can't even see the post to which you're responding...o irony of ironies...
ed
i'm just curious to know what taco's reaction will be when he sees that you've been able to distill this entire site down to one post... :>
ed
ya left out the polls!
[options a-g]
h. [unable to participate] you insensitive clod!
i. [cowboy neal poll option]
i dunno about everyone else, but me, i see this as a golden opportunity to whine about the entire US gov't procurement system. i'm not familiar w/ it (although i'm sure someone here is and has already had his post modded +5 informative) but my understanding is it's painfully bad.
ed
"what, you think they really paid $700 for a hammer?"--judd hirsh, independence day.
i think he knows who drizzt is; just ranting that the bastard is way overrated. like this post. :>
and drizzt is not at all in the same league. give it a few decades and us old-schoolers will re-consider...
ed
managementspeak is here to stay.
as someone else noted, so is geekspeak.
but here's what i want to respond to:
"but what is wrong with simply working hard and producing your product with craft and skill and not resorting to all sorts of "strategies for success"?"
b/c superior product doesn't always win. remember betamax?
i don't know what kind of businesses you 've worked in but IMX, management always wants to be the top dog in the field. i used to work at a large financial services company and every single one of those execs is driven by that objective.
management (particularly upper management) wants to examine any tool to develop and maintain market share dominance. doing anything less is bad for your shareholders (assuming you're a listed company). nobody wants to be the betamax of their industry.
i think we should use betamax as a verb: e.g., "ah, apple's got some great technology but they've betamaxed". this isn't to say that anything apple does is bad: on the contrary, i like what i read, but marketshare is something it doesn't really have, and since profits come w/ marketshare...
ed
is there room for this thing in your pocket, too?
ed
do you have something against proper spelling? :>
at least us lower-casers have e e cummings to fall back on...
ed
i agree with mr. greene that the most polluting passenger vehicles are likely to remain on the road this way.
however, i should point out that we don't know where these ebay auctions will cap out. certainly, the first few will get pretty out there, but i suspect that as they continue to auction them off, the prices are likely to flatten out a bit more.
i mean, the first "treat me as HOV" sticker will likely wind up being displayed on bill gates's car, but 52nd one? the 187th one? i'm sure that these will not sell for as much as the first one.
i'm very curious to see over what block of time they choose to do this.
ed