I had one doctor start to tell me he would call a hit out on me if I couldn't make his alpha pager work when it was turned off. According to the board of directors at a local hospital, it may not be safe for me to be one of their patients because of a dispute they had about a bill.
You mean you were the tech guy, and he threatened to take out a contract on your life because you couldn't make his pager work when it was turned off? Was this said in jest?
Regardless, this and lots of other comments on/. make me think it would be good to have a category for tech/programmer/related workers' labor issues, quality of life, that sort of thing.
IT isn't a place for women, but it's not a place for men either. It's a sinkhole that takes the best and brightest and turns them into bitter husks (if they don't run off screaming first).
IT careers are fundamentally broken. IT is not treated like a science. IT workers don't have unions to protect them like mechanics and doctors. IT gets the worst of everything. Most people can only immerse themselves in code and gadgetry for so long before they notice that their peers appear to be leading more enjoyable lives.
Yes this. I already see flaming in these comments, which is unfortunate. Although there are undoubtedly instances of gender discrimination, I don't think IT people are each other's enemies--management and their view of IT as a liability rather than a resource (quoting some other/.er) are our enemies. A misunderstanding or dismissal of what we do and the attitude towards IT which that engenders, that's what ruins what should be a line of work about as good as any other, maybe even better.
So, subtopic: what kinds of other jobs can IT skills/background be marshaled into?
Considering how 'free trade' isn't really working from the point of view of the US or any other already-wealthy western nation, I'd wish for it too. Rather, I/do/ wish for it. The Asian exporters aren't engaged in trade as much as they are in currency transfer or something to that effect. They're willing to sell us everything but buy next to nothing from us. Because of all the attention China's getting these days, the Japanese are very quietly slipping under the radar, but this is an old game which they invented and are still playing very well.
And, citing your example of reciprocal immigration inconveniences, the US isn't the only country playing that game: http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2281 .
I don't think anyone's commented that Rage Against the Machine's Tom Morello grew up in Libertyville (same for Tool's Adam Jones, iirc that issue of Guitar World from 10 years ago correctly). He'll be all over such social injustice. Have no fear.
Have you seen a list of things that will be removed from KDE4? I shudder at the thought of the sort of feature loss that Gnome suffered. I can't find it now, but on some mailing list Havoc Pennington wrote, in reference to the switch to Metacity from Sawfish, that people will learn to live without the features. I think someone asked about the window manager remember window size/position, because I missed that and was searching for info on it.
I switched to KDE, originally, because of the 'changes' between gnome 1.4 and 2.0.
Then on the other hand you have KDE, which is so configurable you can select all sorts of settings, which can be chosen based on individual windows.
I'm not saying the Gnome approach is wrong (although I didn't like the attitude of Pennington), but they're filling that role and KDE should continue to fill theirs.
>> I'd like to try Debian, but I can't find a single, succinct install doc like Gentoo's
>Sigh
Sigh, take a look at your link and compare its singleness and succinctness to what you find at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml . From that page, you can click on your architecture and start going through their handbook. At the bottom of each page is a link to the next, and if you complete what's necessary on a page, they provide links to the next relevant part.
Your page appears to link to.deb packages (it is at packages.debian.org, afterall), which are very nice, but how am I going to use debs *before* I have a debian system installed? I looked at the 'list of files' link, wading through that isn't realistic for me, or practically anyone else, I suspect.
This is the point, damn near exactly, that I was making in my original post. Thanks for illustrating it for me.
I often see this written. With the exception of a few lines in various/etc files, to be honest, I didn't learn so much about linux from Gentoo. I learned "scripts/bootstrap.sh" and then "emerge world" and the whatever else I wanted to install.
That's not to say I don't like it. I do. I think it's great. But, the last time or two that I did an install, I used Knoppix to do it. I think it's great that they might have a full GUI available during the build. And, I think we can expect them to have the CLI type install available as well.
I use it because of the clarity and thoroughness of the documentation on their website. I'd like to try Debian, but I can't find a single, succinct install doc like Gentoo's.
BitKeeper would have been a good example here, because iirc, there's something in the BitKeeper licencse that forbids its use to develope other RCS apps. I realize that the licenses of cvs, arch, subversion (all gpl?) don't have such restrictions, but if I do indeed recall correctly, and I'd like to think that I do, it would be interesting to see how McVoy used someone else's RCS to develop his own, which then, by virtue of its license, can't be used to make another RCS.
The filesystems we use now on standard spinning disk HDs, how dependent are those fses on the disk itself? That is, the performance characteristics of reiser vs ext vs xfs etc... if these filesystems were to be on a different type of storage mechanism, how would their performance change? Will a change in this area of hardware also necessitate a change in filesystems?
I'm not looking at my Murphy's Law poster right now, but isn't there a saying like 'never argue with an idiot, people might not know the difference'? And, the more serious side is the possible legal significance of any statement. SCO is all but finished, but nevertheless, they should probably be allowed to continue shooting off their collective mouth and digging their hole deeper, while everyone else just sits back and waits. Sure, some of the statements are so silly, stupid, or outrageous that they just beg to be countered, but...
It may or may not interest you to know that Japanese people have told me both (romaji and romanji). Never heard about a double i at the end, though.
Don't forget that a hiragana and katakana exists for a single 'n' sound, so maybe that makes it permissable. True putting two consonants together is kind of unusual. But all the examples I can think of are two of the same consonants, which would be written as a "little tsu" for a stop in breath (Sapporo [city's name], kippu [ticket], sekken [bar of soap?]). Having two different consonants next to each other may be a different situation.
It may be inconvenient to do so, but I suggest buying cds pressed by record labels that aren't under the riaa umbrella. I don't mean a boycott, I mean permanently. Most of it's shit anyway, isn't it?
Sure there are some Smiths cds that I don't have, but I'll live.
Yeah, they also couldn't run in certain areas because of noise pollution laws. Apparently they made a hell of a racket. I seem to remember seeing a show about these on TLC or Discovery. The turbine ran so hot, it was necessary to keep it spinning during cool down (after the actual power-generating operation of the turbine stopped) to prevent the shaft from deforming.
Maybe I shouldn't bury this so far down in a thread, but I don't think it's a bad thing that 2.6 might be a long way off (and I know that you weren't necessarily implying it either). Although it seems very fashionable for people to complain about 2.4, I think it's pretty good. My current uptime is 10 days, good considering the idiotic things I do this box. Personally, I'd like to see all those features listed at http://www.kernelnewbies.org/status/latest.html get into 2.6. And, I wouldn't mind seeing the freeze dates and ultimate release date pushed back far enough to make these features stable realities.
I take it that this pertains mainly to pop music, but one might also want to look into these fellas. I once heard some electronic music composed during the early '60s (iirc) that was obviously the source of Stereolab's sound. I regret that I can't remember who composed it. So, check out the info below on Milton Babbitt and Edgard Varese.
I love posts that start out with 'no.' They're second only to ones that start with 'wrong.' They're the best. Unless you were answering the (rhetorical) question about dog feedback being better than g++ feedback, although I don't think you were. Either way, my point stands. Get a real dog, cat, etc. I wasn't implying that someone would replace a pet (s)he already has, if that's actually what you meant. But I do think that someone might buy this instead of a real one. I was told in a reply to another post that most humane societies have no-kill policies now, but either way, a real pet would be more engaging and a better value for a real human being. Hasn't it been shown that petting an animal lowers one's blood pressure?
Hello folks,
I wrote it the last time there was a story about Aibo, and I'll write it again. Go to the humane society and get a real dog. Try teaching a real dog real tricks. Won't feedback from a real dog be better than something like:
files_arrays.cpp: In function `int main()': files_arrays.cpp:55: no matching function for call to `ifstream::open (string &)' /usr/include/g++/fstream.h:67: candidates are: void ifstream::open(const char *, int = ios::in, int = 436)
in Australian English, and maybe other dialects as well, jail is gaol, and I think tire (on the car at least) is tyre. Watch the first Mad Max movie, there's a garage in it somewhere that says 'tyres' or something on it.
There are countless dogs and other perfectly good pets waiting to be 'put to sleep' in Humane Societies all over the country and around the world. Go get the real thing. The Sony bot is just going to wind up turned off in a corner and eventually in a landfill.
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I had one doctor start to tell me he would call a hit out on me if I couldn't make his alpha pager work when it was turned off. According to the board of directors at a local hospital, it may not be safe for me to be one of their patients because of a dispute they had about a bill.
You mean you were the tech guy, and he threatened to take out a contract on your life because you couldn't make his pager work when it was turned off? Was this said in jest?
Regardless, this and lots of other comments on /. make me think it would be good to have a category for tech/programmer/related workers' labor issues, quality of life, that sort of thing.
Having lived in Tokyo before, I've never understood what the fuss is about.
OP is (currently) modded as a troll. Anyone who's lived or been there and isn't a fanboy knows that the OP is /not/ a troll.
IT isn't a place for women, but it's not a place for men either. It's a sinkhole that takes the best and brightest and turns them into bitter husks (if they don't run off screaming first).
IT careers are fundamentally broken. IT is not treated like a science. IT workers don't have unions to protect them like mechanics and doctors. IT gets the worst of everything. Most people can only immerse themselves in code and gadgetry for so long before they notice that their peers appear to be leading more enjoyable lives.
Yes this. I already see flaming in these comments, which is unfortunate. Although there are undoubtedly instances of gender discrimination, I don't think IT people are each other's enemies--management and their view of IT as a liability rather than a resource (quoting some other /.er) are our enemies. A misunderstanding or dismissal of what we do and the attitude towards IT which that engenders, that's what ruins what should be a line of work about as good as any other, maybe even better.
So, subtopic: what kinds of other jobs can IT skills/background be marshaled into?
DNA research lab Knome
Have they tried splicing together KDE and Gnome, by chance?
I was a Fastmail.fm customer for years until their huge outage a couple years back.
When did they have a significant outage? I opened my account in 2004.
Opera has, as far as I know, a fairly good reputation. I hope this works out well.
> by ximenes (10)
You're the tenth registered user of /.? Shiiiit. I don't think I've seen a UID in the double-digits before.
> I'd wish for a tit-for-tat arrangement
/do/ wish for it. The Asian exporters aren't engaged in trade as much as they are in currency transfer or something to that effect. They're willing to sell us everything but buy next to nothing from us. Because of all the attention China's getting these days, the Japanese are very quietly slipping under the radar, but this is an old game which they invented and are still playing very well.
Considering how 'free trade' isn't really working from the point of view of the US or any other already-wealthy western nation, I'd wish for it too. Rather, I
And, citing your example of reciprocal immigration inconveniences, the US isn't the only country playing that game: http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=2281 .
I don't think anyone's commented that Rage Against the Machine's Tom Morello grew up in Libertyville (same for Tool's Adam Jones, iirc that issue of Guitar World from 10 years ago correctly). He'll be all over such social injustice. Have no fear.
Have you seen a list of things that will be removed from KDE4? I shudder at the thought of the sort of feature loss that Gnome suffered. I can't find it now, but on some mailing list Havoc Pennington wrote, in reference to the switch to Metacity from Sawfish, that people will learn to live without the features. I think someone asked about the window manager remember window size/position, because I missed that and was searching for info on it.
I switched to KDE, originally, because of the 'changes' between gnome 1.4 and 2.0.
Then on the other hand you have KDE, which is so configurable you can select all sorts of settings, which can be chosen based on individual windows.
I'm not saying the Gnome approach is wrong (although I didn't like the attitude of Pennington), but they're filling that role and KDE should continue to fill theirs.
>> I'd like to try Debian, but I can't find a single, succinct install doc like Gentoo's
.deb packages (it is at packages.debian.org, afterall), which are very nice, but how am I going to use debs *before* I have a debian system installed? I looked at the 'list of files' link, wading through that isn't realistic for me, or practically anyone else, I suspect.
>Sigh
Sigh, take a look at your link and compare its singleness and succinctness to what you find at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml . From that page, you can click on your architecture and start going through their handbook. At the bottom of each page is a link to the next, and if you complete what's necessary on a page, they provide links to the next relevant part.
Your page appears to link to
This is the point, damn near exactly, that I was making in my original post. Thanks for illustrating it for me.
Chris
I often see this written. With the exception of a few lines in various /etc files, to be honest, I didn't learn so much about linux from Gentoo. I learned "scripts/bootstrap.sh" and then "emerge world" and the whatever else I wanted to install.
That's not to say I don't like it. I do. I think it's great. But, the last time or two that I did an install, I used Knoppix to do it. I think it's great that they might have a full GUI available during the build. And, I think we can expect them to have the CLI type install available as well.
I use it because of the clarity and thoroughness of the documentation on their website. I'd like to try Debian, but I can't find a single, succinct install doc like Gentoo's.
Chris
>>Did ARCH start out in a CVS somewhere?
BitKeeper would have been a good example here, because iirc, there's something in the BitKeeper licencse that forbids its use to develope other RCS apps. I realize that the licenses of cvs, arch, subversion (all gpl?) don't have such restrictions, but if I do indeed recall correctly, and I'd like to think that I do, it would be interesting to see how McVoy used someone else's RCS to develop his own, which then, by virtue of its license, can't be used to make another RCS.
The filesystems we use now on standard spinning disk HDs, how dependent are those fses on the disk itself? That is, the performance characteristics of reiser vs ext vs xfs etc... if these filesystems were to be on a different type of storage mechanism, how would their performance change? Will a change in this area of hardware also necessitate a change in filesystems?
I'm not looking at my Murphy's Law poster right now, but isn't there a saying like 'never argue with an idiot, people might not know the difference'? And, the more serious side is the possible legal significance of any statement. SCO is all but finished, but nevertheless, they should probably be allowed to continue shooting off their collective mouth and digging their hole deeper, while everyone else just sits back and waits. Sure, some of the statements are so silly, stupid, or outrageous that they just beg to be countered, but...
It may or may not interest you to know that Japanese people have told me both (romaji and romanji). Never heard about a double i at the end, though.
Don't forget that a hiragana and katakana exists for a single 'n' sound, so maybe that makes it permissable. True putting two consonants together is kind of unusual. But all the examples I can think of are two of the same consonants, which would be written as a "little tsu" for a stop in breath (Sapporo [city's name], kippu [ticket], sekken [bar of soap?]). Having two different consonants next to each other may be a different situation.
It may be inconvenient to do so, but I suggest buying cds pressed by record labels that aren't under the riaa umbrella. I don't mean a boycott, I mean permanently. Most of it's shit anyway, isn't it?
Sure there are some Smiths cds that I don't have, but I'll live.
Yeah, they also couldn't run in certain areas because of noise pollution laws. Apparently they made a hell of a racket. I seem to remember seeing a show about these on TLC or Discovery. The turbine ran so hot, it was necessary to keep it spinning during cool down (after the actual power-generating operation of the turbine stopped) to prevent the shaft from deforming.
Maybe I shouldn't bury this so far down in a thread, but I don't think it's a bad thing that 2.6 might be a long way off (and I know that you weren't necessarily implying it either). Although it seems very fashionable for people to complain about 2.4, I think it's pretty good. My current uptime is 10 days, good considering the idiotic things I do this box. Personally, I'd like to see all those features listed at http://www.kernelnewbies.org/status/latest.html get into 2.6. And, I wouldn't mind seeing the freeze dates and ultimate release date pushed back far enough to make these features stable realities.
1. This is hilarious.
2. Mod it up for setting off a flamewar.
Keep up the good work.
I take it that this pertains mainly to pop music, but one might also want to look into these fellas. I once heard some electronic music composed during the early '60s (iirc) that was obviously the source of Stereolab's sound. I regret that I can't remember who composed it. So, check out the info below on Milton Babbitt and Edgard Varese.
i tion/Composers/B/Babbitt,_Milton/?tc=1
http://directory.google.com/Top/Arts/Music/Compos
http://csunix1.lvc.edu/~snyder/em/varese.html
I love posts that start out with 'no.' They're second only to ones that start with 'wrong.' They're the best. Unless you were answering the (rhetorical) question about dog feedback being better than g++ feedback, although I don't think you were. Either way, my point stands. Get a real dog, cat, etc. I wasn't implying that someone would replace a pet (s)he already has, if that's actually what you meant. But I do think that someone might buy this instead of a real one. I was told in a reply to another post that most humane societies have no-kill policies now, but either way, a real pet would be more engaging and a better value for a real human being. Hasn't it been shown that petting an animal lowers one's blood pressure?
Chris
Hello folks,
I wrote it the last time there was a story about Aibo, and I'll write it again. Go to the humane society and get a real dog. Try teaching a real dog real tricks. Won't feedback from a real dog be better than something like:
files_arrays.cpp: In function `int main()':
files_arrays.cpp:55: no matching function for call to `ifstream::open (string &)'
/usr/include/g++/fstream.h:67: candidates are: void ifstream::open(const char *, int = ios::in, int = 436)
Just a thought,
Chris
in Australian English, and maybe other dialects as well, jail is gaol, and I think tire (on the car at least) is tyre. Watch the first Mad Max movie, there's a garage in it somewhere that says 'tyres' or something on it.
There are countless dogs and other perfectly good pets waiting to be 'put to sleep' in Humane Societies all over the country and around the world. Go get the real thing. The Sony bot is just going to wind up turned off in a corner and eventually in a landfill.