Famous Quote from Voltair: The ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination.
seriously.. once a few CXO's start getting knocked off.. mabey then we'll finally get real enviromental, financial, global, politcal, healthcare resbonsibility
your a fool to belive that M$ is just sitting back and waiting 2-3 years to release IE 7, right now they have an update ready to go for IE 6.5, and should some "new technologies" come out before the next OS, rest assured that M$ will release a patch with most of the other stuff they were plannig on releasing anywayse.
this is a simple tactic to lull other development teams in a sence of security. please next time think before you post
thats what i was expecting.. fish in the enviroment.. or even replicate it..
Q: what did they do with the fish afterwards? wasabi anyone?
Q: if the fish is used to being under X amount of tons of water.. wouldnt there bodies be compressed so that when tehre at our atmosphere they would be all bloated and expanded and shit?
ahh but think of it.. all thoes M$ foriengers will be getting US taxpayers dollars. there forieng govermetns will tax the M$ employees and thoes tax dollars will go towards terrorist ^h^h^h^h^h^h freedom fighters. then the US will spent more taxpayer dollars bombing said freedom fighters ^h^h^h^h^h terrorists.
SOOOOO... the point of this rant, is that the US Army is in reality just re-investing in itself
russians dont have reusable craft.. and there cheaper and safer than americans.. WHY?? do we need a reusable craft? (im not a troll.. im asking.. ive asked before, i really dont see why?)
YES.. but they only need to own mabey 4 of 5 computers (cottage, mansion, office, apt, yacht) so.. top fortune 500 companies 10 directors and executive each
500 X 10 X 5 = thats 5000 people left in the world with 25,000 computers. so how many techies to do you need to support thoes? 500? 100?
Cute... an american.. talking about international law
hey.. AC.. while your at it.. mabey you expain to the rest of us Canucks how "Democracy" works? wait..?? what was that?? did some one say.. Butterfly ballots in Florida??
Excellent argument you had me right up unitl the point where you said its TV.. as in JUST TV.. the medium isnt the issue, the issue should be resources.. and there your point is dead on
Sung to the tune of 100 bottles of beer in the wall.
10,000 bugs and glitches in the code 10,000 bugs and glitches release a service-pack, smack 1 down 10,500 bugs in the code
add nauseum...
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SCO vs Linux.. Continued
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Q&A: SCO's Chris Sontag on Linux, Unix and brewing legal fights
By PATRICK THIBODEAU MAY 29, 2003
In two weeks, The SCO Group Inc. intends to begin showing analysts where the Unix code it owns has been illegally copied into the Linux kernel. The source code will be made available to parties who agree not to disclose the Unix source code, but they will be able to share publicly their assessments of SCO's claim. SCO has filed a $1 billion lawsuit against IBM alleging misappropriation of trade secrets and other claims and has warned some 1,500 businesses that they may be using Linux at their legal peril. In an interview with Computerworld reporter Patrick Thibodeau, SCO's Chris Sontag, a senior vice president and general manager of SCOsource Division, the group within SCO in charge of enforcing the company's intellectual property, discussed the company's position.
Why should Linux users take your claim seriously? Think about if I was the CIO of a company and I'm going to be running my business on an operating system that has an intellectual property foundation that, by almost everyone's admission, is built on quicksand. There is no mechanism in Linux to ensure [the legality of] that intellectual property of the source code being contributed by various people. We fully believe there are many contributions made by good, hard-working individuals into Linux that are not of issue. But based on the research that we have done, we have identified specific Unix System V code for which we have ownership rights that have ended up in Linux against our wishes. There is inappropriate intellectual property in Linux. The development process has no one that is ensuring that inappropriate code is not getting into Linux. All that's there is an honor system, and obviously there are a few, at least, that have broken that honor.
Chris Sontag of The SCO Group Inc. Your letter to 1,500 end-user companies outlining your claim was vague. What is it that you want from these companies? The one thing that we specifically want from those 1,500 companies that we directly sent those letters to is for them to not take our word on the warning that we sent... but to seek an opinion of their legal counsel as to the issues that we raised.
What do you see as a company's options in the face of your warning? I would suspend any new Linux-related activities until this is all sorted out. But first get that opinion of your legal counsel. If they say there is no problem and no issue, then you probably have nothing to worry about. But I doubt there is any attorney worth his salt that is going to say there is no potential of an issue here. There is a big issue.
Should companies remove Linux from their systems? We're not making any specific recommendations at this time. We're still getting our arms around the size of this problem. We're still identifying more and more code from Unix System V that is in Linux, and so we haven't even fully scoped the problem. It's hard to come up with solutions until you have the full problem identified, and as you may guess, it's a very big problem.
Are you considering suing Linux users that you notified? Anything is always a possibility. If you are going to enforce your contracts, claims and intellectual property, you have to be able to go to ultimately the endpoint of infringement.
You're claiming that Linux has been polluted with Unix code that you own, but you have not produced any evidence of that. Will you? We will actually be providing some of the evidence next month to various industry analysts, respected press people and other industry leaders so that they don't have to take our word for it or wait until we show some of that evidence in court. We will actually be showing the code, and the basis for why we have made the allegations that we have. We are very confident about our case. Because we are dealing with confidential source code that we have never released without confidentiality agreements, we will have to put in place nondi
I read all of the comments greater than or equal to +4
and nothing mentioned parents... why arnt parents reading the ESRB? why are they buying these games or allowing them into their houses? could it be that a little $60 game is cheaper than a babysitter?
why arnt stores enforcing the ESRB? movies do, most video stores do for renting, hell i was in a 7-11 and they wouldnt even let a kid (teenager?) buy a lighter, how is compUSA or EB diffrent?
but still its not the responsibility of the stores, its the parents, if my kids are viewing nazi stuff and hate literature, i dont want the goverment invovled, thats my problem, thats telling me im doing a bad job as a parent and i should do something about it.
i did a paper on NORAD, Star Wars, and the SDI a few years ago (+5) and they said that NORAD monitored 380 launches a year, (thats world wide, france, china, russia, korea ect.. )
as for how many NASA launches? and how many the Airforce launches out of vandenburg.. thats a good question (one im to lazy to google for)
also.. i think that %49.9 or %51.1 of the NASA budget comes out of the pentagons budget... so they can hush things up and what not.
hhmm.. im not really nit picking i feel ihad some vaild points.
1 -okay.. if your looking at the TCO you need a team to build it (or 5 of them) AND you team to repair them (yes im sure some of the jobs would migrate over) OR you could just have one team to build it, and build it right every time
2-spur research? HELL YA!! reusable shuttle = your locked into a vendor specific whatever (metal, parts, technology, whatever) overhauls and upgrades are premo expensive disposable shuttle = as soon as new technology, metal, composite is discoverd and tested.. just build the next model out of that
ALSO one month its a lockheed shuttle, next month a boeing shuttle, spurs inivation, spurs compition, keeps costs down, and new tech will spiral down to the consumers, win win win
i agree its not perfect, but as the artical said (RTFA) Quality, speed, Cost: choose two
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Famous Quote from Voltair: The ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination.
seriously.. once a few CXO's start getting knocked off.. mabey then we'll finally get real enviromental, financial, global, politcal, healthcare resbonsibility
ya know... that would be great investment oppertunity.
do they have corprate run prisons in the US now? or is that still all sci-fi stuff?
can Canadians invest in these corporations? who are they?
your a fool
your a fool to belive that M$ is just sitting back and waiting 2-3 years to release IE 7, right now they have an update ready to go for IE 6.5, and should some "new technologies" come out before the next OS, rest assured that M$ will release a patch with most of the other stuff they were plannig on releasing anywayse.
this is a simple tactic to lull other development teams in a sence of security. please next time think before you post
Benito Mussolini said "Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is a merge of state and corporate power."
so how how well do you sleep at night knowing that you (our goverment) is a puppet doing the work of corporations (**AA's) ?
Free MOD Points for the 1st post that CORRECTLY translates this..
good luck
and happy karma whoring
-1 off topic... if you hadnt been an AC this would have been a +5 hillarious
thats what i was expecting.. fish in the enviroment.. or even replicate it..
Q: what did they do with the fish afterwards? wasabi anyone?
Q: if the fish is used to being under X amount of tons of water.. wouldnt there bodies be compressed so that when tehre at our atmosphere they would be all bloated and expanded and shit?
$1000 hooker on my lap.. fuck that.. she can sit on my face and stay there
Did anyone else get a chill through there spine that at that EXACT same moment John Ashcroft was reading that article ?
... ... ... scary isnt it?
and that very soon there will be a senate commitee on Google and search engines?
stop! just think about that for a while...
ahh but think of it.. all thoes M$ foriengers will be getting US taxpayers dollars.
there forieng govermetns will tax the M$ employees and thoes tax dollars will go towards terrorist ^h^h^h^h^h^h freedom fighters.
then the US will spent more taxpayer dollars bombing said freedom fighters ^h^h^h^h^h terrorists.
SOOOOO... the point of this rant, is that the US Army is in reality just re-investing in itself
to all you young script kiddies and 31337's and the people that just want to "learn by doing"
JOIN YOUR SCHOOLS NEWSPAPER
"Pretty soon time will be copyrighted and so will words"
its called newspeak from 1984 try and keep up please.
mod me down as a troll if you wish...
BUT have you seen this Cow?!?!? she AINT photogenic
(not saying iam, but i know she aint!!!)
"actual, cheap, reusable space vehicle though"
why dose it have to be reusable? where is saftey?
id say cheap, reusable, reliable pick two
russians dont have reusable craft.. and there cheaper and safer than americans..
WHY?? do we need a reusable craft? (im not a troll.. im asking.. ive asked before, i really dont see why?)
YES.. but they only need to own mabey 4 of 5 computers (cottage, mansion, office, apt, yacht) so.. top fortune 500 companies 10 directors and executive each
500 X 10 X 5 = thats 5000 people left in the world with 25,000 computers. so how many techies to do you need to support thoes? 500? 100?
OMG!! Some one HAS to upload a video of this...
forget ellen fliess, forget that porky starwars geek, this could be the newest craze!! this thing looks AWSOME!!
+ 5 Insightfull????
+ 5 Insightfull????
this should be +100 Fucking "on the money"
hope your gona buy a lotto ticket today BrynM
HAHAAHAHAHA
Cute... an american.. talking about international law
hey.. AC.. while your at it.. mabey you expain to the rest of us Canucks how "Democracy" works? wait..?? what was that?? did some one say.. Butterfly ballots in Florida??
Excellent argument you had me right up unitl the point where you said its TV.. as in JUST TV.. the medium isnt the issue, the issue should be resources.. and there your point is dead on
ya know.. im be anal here..
but..
this post ISNT funny, this is the kind of backward 1930's thinking that has been holding everything back for the past 66 years..
35 ppl died thats it.. just 35.. thats a CNN story for a day.. nothing more, big fireball thats it. big deal
hydogen cars and new airships have been soo promising from new transport ships, to rescue, to heavy lifting construction, to communication platforms..
but its your kind of backward mentality that is stopping investors from exploiting a wonderfull resource
Sung to the tune of 100 bottles of beer in the wall.
10,000 bugs and glitches in the code
10,000 bugs and glitches
release a service-pack, smack 1 down
10,500 bugs in the code
add nauseum...
Q&A: SCO's Chris Sontag on Linux, Unix and brewing legal fights
... but to seek an opinion of their legal counsel as to the issues that we raised.
By PATRICK THIBODEAU
MAY 29, 2003
In two weeks, The SCO Group Inc. intends to begin showing analysts where the Unix code it owns has been illegally copied into the Linux kernel. The source code will be made available to parties who agree not to disclose the Unix source code, but they will be able to share publicly their assessments of SCO's claim. SCO has filed a $1 billion lawsuit against IBM alleging misappropriation of trade secrets and other claims and has warned some 1,500 businesses that they may be using Linux at their legal peril.
In an interview with Computerworld reporter Patrick Thibodeau, SCO's Chris Sontag, a senior vice president and general manager of SCOsource Division, the group within SCO in charge of enforcing the company's intellectual property, discussed the company's position.
Why should Linux users take your claim seriously? Think about if I was the CIO of a company and I'm going to be running my business on an operating system that has an intellectual property foundation that, by almost everyone's admission, is built on quicksand. There is no mechanism in Linux to ensure [the legality of] that intellectual property of the source code being contributed by various people. We fully believe there are many contributions made by good, hard-working individuals into Linux that are not of issue. But based on the research that we have done, we have identified specific Unix System V code for which we have ownership rights that have ended up in Linux against our wishes. There is inappropriate intellectual property in Linux. The development process has no one that is ensuring that inappropriate code is not getting into Linux. All that's there is an honor system, and obviously there are a few, at least, that have broken that honor.
Chris Sontag of The SCO Group Inc.
Your letter to 1,500 end-user companies outlining your claim was vague. What is it that you want from these companies? The one thing that we specifically want from those 1,500 companies that we directly sent those letters to is for them to not take our word on the warning that we sent
What do you see as a company's options in the face of your warning? I would suspend any new Linux-related activities until this is all sorted out. But first get that opinion of your legal counsel. If they say there is no problem and no issue, then you probably have nothing to worry about. But I doubt there is any attorney worth his salt that is going to say there is no potential of an issue here. There is a big issue.
Should companies remove Linux from their systems? We're not making any specific recommendations at this time. We're still getting our arms around the size of this problem. We're still identifying more and more code from Unix System V that is in Linux, and so we haven't even fully scoped the problem. It's hard to come up with solutions until you have the full problem identified, and as you may guess, it's a very big problem.
Are you considering suing Linux users that you notified? Anything is always a possibility. If you are going to enforce your contracts, claims and intellectual property, you have to be able to go to ultimately the endpoint of infringement.
You're claiming that Linux has been polluted with Unix code that you own, but you have not produced any evidence of that. Will you? We will actually be providing some of the evidence next month to various industry analysts, respected press people and other industry leaders so that they don't have to take our word for it or wait until we show some of that evidence in court. We will actually be showing the code, and the basis for why we have made the allegations that we have. We are very confident about our case. Because we are dealing with confidential source code that we have never released without confidentiality agreements, we will have to put in place nondi
I read all of the comments greater than or equal to +4
and nothing mentioned parents... why arnt parents reading the ESRB? why are they buying these games or allowing them into their houses? could it be that a little $60 game is cheaper than a babysitter?
why arnt stores enforcing the ESRB? movies do, most video stores do for renting, hell i was in a 7-11 and they wouldnt even let a kid (teenager?) buy a lighter, how is compUSA or EB diffrent?
but still its not the responsibility of the stores, its the parents, if my kids are viewing nazi stuff and hate literature, i dont want the goverment invovled, thats my problem, thats telling me im doing a bad job as a parent and i should do something about it.
i did a paper on NORAD, Star Wars, and the SDI a few years ago (+5) and they said that NORAD monitored 380 launches a year, (thats world wide, france, china, russia, korea ect.. )
as for how many NASA launches? and how many the Airforce launches out of vandenburg.. thats a good question (one im to lazy to google for)
also.. i think that %49.9 or %51.1 of the NASA budget comes out of the pentagons budget... so they can hush things up and what not.
hhmm.. im not really nit picking i feel ihad some vaild points.
1 -okay.. if your looking at the TCO you need a team to build it (or 5 of them) AND you team to repair them (yes im sure some of the jobs would migrate over)
OR
you could just have one team to build it, and build it right every time
2-spur research? HELL YA!!
reusable shuttle = your locked into a vendor specific whatever (metal, parts, technology, whatever) overhauls and upgrades are premo expensive
disposable shuttle = as soon as new technology, metal, composite is discoverd and tested.. just build the next model out of that
ALSO one month its a lockheed shuttle, next month a boeing shuttle, spurs inivation, spurs compition, keeps costs down, and new tech will spiral down to the consumers, win win win
i agree its not perfect, but as the artical said (RTFA) Quality, speed, Cost: choose two