Within the next few generations, there won't be a large market of first time PC users to fool with flashy graphics and a fat guy dressed up like a butterfly. Kids are learning computers, and that's bad for Microsoft.
This is sort of true, and people will probably get away from Microsoft, but not for that reason. If anything, people will stick to MS Windows because it's what they learned. Too bad for microsoft, that THIS will probably eventually backfire also. I've seen it happening all over. People get on the MS bandwagon - we'll say between Win95 and Win98. They get comfortable with the programs and such. And they refuse to upgrade. Over the years they get farther and farther behind the curve until eventually they will be forced to upgrade (due to some hardware failure for instance). By this time the latest MS Windows incarnation will probably be as alien to the user as Linux with KDE. And it's only going to get worse once "trusted computing" goes full force and breaks comparability with many legacy programs.
If it say "Microsoft " and something else, you are vulnerable
If you have to do all that to figure out what version of windows you're using, your computer probably already has more viruses than a biological weapons factory.
True enough, but I didn't discover that Moz was even keeping track of that until I had a couple thousand entries (downloads.rdf was quite a few megs). Even through the interface it took me around 8 seconds to delete EACH entry. Might be nice if the added a "purge all" button or something....
if your like me and you don't use the download manager but have dialogs enabled, you will eventually find that downloads will continually take longer and longer to start. Eventually I ended up with a 10 second lag between clicking save, and the application actually saving. Turns out Mozilla logs all downloads in the download manager anyway and NEVER purges the list. You can improve performance by deleting the file 'downloads.rdf' in your profile directory (this of course nukes your download history).
Just in case anyone else has been having a problem with huge delays in downloads starting.
(from the Register) "Effectively a 0.13 micron version of the four-pipeline 9500 Pro, the new chip will run both faster and cooler than its predecessor"
Yes cooler... COOLER. Not so freaking hot you need to strap a briggs&stratton lawn mower engine up to a card to power the fan to cool the f'ing thing. Are you listening Nvidia?!
Mod this guy up and the parent down. It's a federal offence to threaten the president and has been for a while. You're free to insult the president all you want, just don't threaten him.
I actually recall that there was an incident in a highschool in the town next to mine where there was some kid who threatened the president via email (or something like that) and within 2 hours there were federal agents in the middle of North Dakota (ie - nowhere). Eventually they just scared the kid (by basically being there) and left. Now I hated Clinton too, but I certainly wouldn't have threatened him, because it's AGAINST THE LAW (and not worth my time).
MS seems to be throwing hundreds of small.exe's into their system to make it easier for tasks to be done,
Isn't this the very unix philosophy people have been touting as a strength? Keep in mind that the flip side of the coin is to include everything in one app and make it too complex for anyone to understand or keep secure. Option 3 I guess would be something to do with dll hell.
In other strange news Microsoft sells Japan less than an hour after buying it. Sources allege that the push to sell Japan came after it was pointed out that Tokyo had the biggest bug of all: Godzilla.
Bill Gates was quoted as saying: "It sounds like that other browser thing I heard about. But even more shocking is that Godzilla is a bigger bug than Windows".
Very true. While this might be a good foot in the door, I don't know if they'll get a very good paying job from it. A (good) sys admin in many ways is like a swiss army knife. There is a lot to know about many things. Getting Linux to work is one thing. Getting a lot of services working such as DHCP, DNS, etc is another. To get these coordinated in some sort of network and talk to other stuff (ala MS stuff) is another thing. Experience is the key to a good sys admin, and while this might be a good stepping stone to get there, I wouldn't hold my breath getting a decent job with this bit of training.
Not that I should be talking since I pretty much had little experience with Linux and landed the job I have now. At the time I could essentially cruse around the system and tinker with some minor stuff. When I was interning there the boss seemed impressed with how well I took to the system since he saw that in my spare time I was logged into the server doing something - I was actually surfing the web via links but whatever...
I can be sure because _I_ thought about it (a lot) and it works for me. Besides which I said their lives are materialistic and trivial, I did not say they were trivial because they were materialistic. More often there is a correlation between the two, but the two aren't necessarily associated with one another.
Even Bronson's generalizations alienated me. The "we" that define ourselves by our salary or possessions or career achievements
That probably says a lot about why he wrote the book. He probably over-generalized to everyone, but make no mistake: that's American society in a nutshell (i.e. - most people). It's these people who spend their lives never really thinking about where they're going. "I guess I'll go to college" "I guess this will be my career" "I guess I'll get married". People for the most part just never really THINK about their lives, their place in the world, about much of ANYTHING. I guess for some of us we tend to take for granted that you just sit idle some time to think about things, but it's sort of a shocker to a lot of people who are too busy selling their soul to a corporation for some menial gain in their trivial materialistic lives.
Flash does more than graphics you know. There's the music, and the scripting as well. As far as I recall, none of that has anything to do with the SVG standard (which of course it shouldn't).
Find some old movies where the copyright has expired. There are quite a few of them, and I'm sure you could easily fill the 150 Gb with them alone. Just look at some of the lists for the best movies of the 1900's through the 50's. Some of them are available, a lot of them are not. I've actually looked for quite a few, and more often then not, they're just totally nowhere to be found.
If you want to distribute them as fast as possible, just continually mislable them as "best porn ever", etc. and symlink them with all sorts of crazy names (assuming you're using a Unix type OS)
That's "if you're a big company". If that's RedHat's view, then they are REALLY missing the boat. Who has more money to spend on stuff like software? That would be a big company. In smaller and medium sized companies is where Linux could really take over. You can come up with a (sudo) enterprise level Linux solution for the cost of hardware, the time to set it up, and the cost of support from Redhat. If our company HAD the money, why wouldn't we just go with Microsoft? People don't see all the reasons that computer geeks do, they see brand recognition in Microsoft.
Apperently you've never had an upgrade go completly wrong. And second you assume that Linux is only used for generic stuff like dns and webservers. The proprietary accounting package that my buisness uses has shit strewn all over the system and is extremely dependant on all sorts of crazy stuff (this all took place before I even started working there). A simple upgrade would be suicide on the server, and probably thouroughly cripple the company. This could seriously damage the reputation of Linux. Making it only look good for a few nitches to save a few bucks (ie cheap mail server, firewall, etc.), and the REAL software being run on something like Windows.
how about: 8/0 is obsolete in less than a year, but 8.1 isn't even out of beta yet!
Excatly! I JUST upgraded one of our servers to 8 after I did a total wipe of all the program directories. I've done an actual "upgrade" via cdrom on RedHat and it turned into a disaster resulting in a totally crippled and unusable server. It wasn't THAT important of a server so that's why I decided to attempt the upgrade. In the mean time I just had one of the other servers bind to the IP address and act as a stand in until I got it sorted out. Needless to say I doubt I'd ever actually upgrade one of the more essential servers where I work.
Now for a lot of generic things, Linux is easy to upgrade. LDAP, SQL, DNS, mail are all generic things that could be migrated to a new server and switched over easily. Once you move beyond that it gets more complex. At the place I work we have one critical server on Linux that will probably never get upgraded until the server (hardware) is outdated and needs to be replaced, due to how our proprietary accounting software is set up.
It seems like Redhat is pushing the subscription model, and to their credit, I'm pretty happy with up2date + the red hat network. But if I'm no longer getting support on a server I set up LESS THAN A YEAR AGO, then why in the hell would I pay for their services?
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and just when you thought 'goto' was dead...
You're assuming an x86 machine, which might not be the case
Within the next few generations, there won't be a large market of first time PC users to fool with flashy graphics and a fat guy dressed up like a butterfly. Kids are learning computers, and that's bad for Microsoft.
This is sort of true, and people will probably get away from Microsoft, but not for that reason. If anything, people will stick to MS Windows because it's what they learned. Too bad for microsoft, that THIS will probably eventually backfire also. I've seen it happening all over. People get on the MS bandwagon - we'll say between Win95 and Win98. They get comfortable with the programs and such. And they refuse to upgrade. Over the years they get farther and farther behind the curve until eventually they will be forced to upgrade (due to some hardware failure for instance). By this time the latest MS Windows incarnation will probably be as alien to the user as Linux with KDE. And it's only going to get worse once "trusted computing" goes full force and breaks comparability with many legacy programs.
If it say "Microsoft " and something else, you are vulnerable
If you have to do all that to figure out what version of windows you're using, your computer probably already has more viruses than a biological weapons factory.
I thought Thursday was the day we discovered all the crap that broke because of the patches...
True enough, but I didn't discover that Moz was even keeping track of that until I had a couple thousand entries (downloads.rdf was quite a few megs). Even through the interface it took me around 8 seconds to delete EACH entry. Might be nice if the added a "purge all" button or something....
if your like me and you don't use the download manager but have dialogs enabled, you will eventually find that downloads will continually take longer and longer to start. Eventually I ended up with a 10 second lag between clicking save, and the application actually saving. Turns out Mozilla logs all downloads in the download manager anyway and NEVER purges the list. You can improve performance by deleting the file 'downloads.rdf' in your profile directory (this of course nukes your download history).
Just in case anyone else has been having a problem with huge delays in downloads starting.
At the place I work I just started to ban the number one altogether for all new passwords. Even if they just pick '2' I figure it's better than 1.
They're selling a product they essentially get for free (linux). I mean how can the NOT be making TONS of money?!? ;)
This is what a really wanted to hear:
(from the Register)
"Effectively a 0.13 micron version of the four-pipeline 9500 Pro, the new chip will run both faster and cooler than its predecessor"
Yes cooler... COOLER.
Not so freaking hot you need to strap a briggs&stratton lawn mower engine up to a card to power the fan to cool the f'ing thing. Are you listening Nvidia?!
Mod this guy up and the parent down. It's a federal offence to threaten the president and has been for a while. You're free to insult the president all you want, just don't threaten him.
I actually recall that there was an incident in a highschool in the town next to mine where there was some kid who threatened the president via email (or something like that) and within 2 hours there were federal agents in the middle of North Dakota (ie - nowhere). Eventually they just scared the kid (by basically being there) and left. Now I hated Clinton too, but I certainly wouldn't have threatened him, because it's AGAINST THE LAW (and not worth my time).
MS seems to be throwing hundreds of small .exe's into their system to make it easier for tasks to be done,
Isn't this the very unix philosophy people have been touting as a strength? Keep in mind that the flip side of the coin is to include everything in one app and make it too complex for anyone to understand or keep secure. Option 3 I guess would be something to do with dll hell.
you too? Yeah, I think it's pretty common that many of us programmers get up around noon and just play Grand Theft Auto all day. =P
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Microsoft Sells Japan
Wed Feb 5, 04:44 PM PT
In other strange news Microsoft sells Japan less than an hour after buying it. Sources allege that the push to sell Japan came after it was pointed out that Tokyo had the biggest bug of all: Godzilla.
Bill Gates was quoted as saying: "It sounds like that other browser thing I heard about. But even more shocking is that Godzilla is a bigger bug than Windows".
At was depreciated after the release of win2k, you're supposed to use the task scheduler.
Very true. While this might be a good foot in the door, I don't know if they'll get a very good paying job from it. A (good) sys admin in many ways is like a swiss army knife. There is a lot to know about many things. Getting Linux to work is one thing. Getting a lot of services working such as DHCP, DNS, etc is another. To get these coordinated in some sort of network and talk to other stuff (ala MS stuff) is another thing. Experience is the key to a good sys admin, and while this might be a good stepping stone to get there, I wouldn't hold my breath getting a decent job with this bit of training.
Not that I should be talking since I pretty much had little experience with Linux and landed the job I have now. At the time I could essentially cruse around the system and tinker with some minor stuff. When I was interning there the boss seemed impressed with how well I took to the system since he saw that in my spare time I was logged into the server doing something - I was actually surfing the web via links but whatever...
A Win9x trick.
Format the floppy in a DOS prompt, and you can still multitask fine.
I can be sure because _I_ thought about it (a lot) and it works for me. Besides which I said their lives are materialistic and trivial, I did not say they were trivial because they were materialistic. More often there is a correlation between the two, but the two aren't necessarily associated with one another.
Even Bronson's generalizations alienated me. The "we" that define ourselves by our salary or possessions or career achievements
That probably says a lot about why he wrote the book. He probably over-generalized to everyone, but make no mistake: that's American society in a nutshell (i.e. - most people). It's these people who spend their lives never really thinking about where they're going. "I guess I'll go to college" "I guess this will be my career" "I guess I'll get married". People for the most part just never really THINK about their lives, their place in the world, about much of ANYTHING. I guess for some of us we tend to take for granted that you just sit idle some time to think about things, but it's sort of a shocker to a lot of people who are too busy selling their soul to a corporation for some menial gain in their trivial materialistic lives.
Flash does more than graphics you know. There's the music, and the scripting as well. As far as I recall, none of that has anything to do with the SVG standard (which of course it shouldn't).
Those were just "extras".
These are "EXTRA extras"!
Find some old movies where the copyright has expired. There are quite a few of them, and I'm sure you could easily fill the 150 Gb with them alone. Just look at some of the lists for the best movies of the 1900's through the 50's. Some of them are available, a lot of them are not. I've actually looked for quite a few, and more often then not, they're just totally nowhere to be found.
If you want to distribute them as fast as possible, just continually mislable them as "best porn ever", etc. and symlink them with all sorts of crazy names (assuming you're using a Unix type OS)
That's "if you're a big company". If that's RedHat's view, then they are REALLY missing the boat. Who has more money to spend on stuff like software? That would be a big company. In smaller and medium sized companies is where Linux could really take over. You can come up with a (sudo) enterprise level Linux solution for the cost of hardware, the time to set it up, and the cost of support from Redhat. If our company HAD the money, why wouldn't we just go with Microsoft? People don't see all the reasons that computer geeks do, they see brand recognition in Microsoft.
Apperently you've never had an upgrade go completly wrong. And second you assume that Linux is only used for generic stuff like dns and webservers. The proprietary accounting package that my buisness uses has shit strewn all over the system and is extremely dependant on all sorts of crazy stuff (this all took place before I even started working there). A simple upgrade would be suicide on the server, and probably thouroughly cripple the company. This could seriously damage the reputation of Linux. Making it only look good for a few nitches to save a few bucks (ie cheap mail server, firewall, etc.), and the REAL software being run on something like Windows.
how about: 8/0 is obsolete in less than a year, but 8.1 isn't even out of beta yet!
Excatly! I JUST upgraded one of our servers to 8 after I did a total wipe of all the program directories. I've done an actual "upgrade" via cdrom on RedHat and it turned into a disaster resulting in a totally crippled and unusable server. It wasn't THAT important of a server so that's why I decided to attempt the upgrade. In the mean time I just had one of the other servers bind to the IP address and act as a stand in until I got it sorted out. Needless to say I doubt I'd ever actually upgrade one of the more essential servers where I work.
Now for a lot of generic things, Linux is easy to upgrade. LDAP, SQL, DNS, mail are all generic things that could be migrated to a new server and switched over easily. Once you move beyond that it gets more complex. At the place I work we have one critical server on Linux that will probably never get upgraded until the server (hardware) is outdated and needs to be replaced, due to how our proprietary accounting software is set up.
It seems like Redhat is pushing the subscription model, and to their credit, I'm pretty happy with up2date + the red hat network. But if I'm no longer getting support on a server I set up LESS THAN A YEAR AGO, then why in the hell would I pay for their services?