I've seen more than a couple people that have already pointed this out. This is OLD news. Linux will kill some Unixes and that to some extent is good (die SCO die!). I doubt *BSD will go anywhere. Linux will probably not replace Solaris and AIX on extreme high end uber boxes, but will probably take away stuff on the fringe low end stuff. Basically windows is not going to go away because a few buisnesses switched.
No, if there is going to be a downfall comming from MS it's not going to come from Linux, or any other operating system. It's going to START with the downfall of M$ office. If Open/Star office starts spreading like the plauge (which there's a 50/50 chance it will) this will break the grip of Microsoft, and start to give people actual options.
is it any better to have Microsoft guessing (or telling) us what we want? Actually computers already tend to guess what we mean on a regular basis. That's what spell/grammar checking does.
At first I missed the slash in there, and I thought that Microsoft had bought out the DOJ and changed it's name to MS DOJ. Well at least I can breathe a sigh of relief... for now.
yeah, I agree. Unless you want to develop for a window manager, really learning one is trivial. Granted that screwing around with one and making cool window decorations is one thing, but that's not really relavent info. If you really want to learn *nix, looking at window managers is going in the wrong direction - most anything important is done via the CLI.
Well judging from the comments here, I doubt Slackware will ever die. I recently came across a laptop (Midwest Micro) with a 486 @ 66Mhz, 8mb RAM, and 500Mb hard drive. I decided to dump DOS on it, because it's a pain in the ass even to play DOS games on the thing (the trackball is busted). It ONLY has a floppy drive, so that right there limits my choices. I have this feeling that Free BSD will blow up in my face, so that leaves me with Linux. My question is, should I go with Debian, or will Slackware work. Lets face it, I'm doing a floppy install. I'm going to have to build everything up from scratch anyway, I'm just wondering if either distro has an advantage in this case.
sort of reminds me of a story of a guy that ran Linux and needed general TCP/IP info to connect to the internet. So he calls up his ISP to get the info and they refuse to give it to him because he uses Linux. Anyway, no serious ISP would go any (long) length of time not supporting XP.
Well that sort of depends on the drive too. I know at work there is a computer set up that runs 18 Gb SCSI 15k RPM drives mirrored, and those aren't exactly cheap (condidering a mirror is twice the cost for redundancy for a drive that was already expensive). With twice the swap of a machine that has 2Gb of RAM, we're talking 4Gb of swap - that's 22% of the drive.
From the article - " All earlier 2.4 kernels (since 2.3.12) needed at least the same amount of RAM in swap and then more to give you additional virtual memory. This meant that on an 8-GB server, you needed to put aside almost a full 9-GB disk just to be able to swap"
Is this accurate? For just about everything I've always gone with 512Mb of swap, regardless of whether I had more or less RAM (not that I'm technically proficient or anything). This would also be a shortcoming of Linux since it would make it a pain in the ass upgrading RAM if you needed to allocate more swap space somewhere else each time. Well I'm all for the newer VM. Simple is good.
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You do pay for quality
Like Microsoft products? I do think that the Pentium III was a very good chip (certainly better than the old AMD k6), but right now, I would take an AMD processor over any Intel. Check out this article for a good read on the subject.
In all this I'm starting to wonder if MS isn't going to eventually dump the command line too, although I don't know how they even could, since there's more than a few programs that simply spit out text and nothing else. I'm not sure I care that DOS is even gone, since I tend to use Perl for most of my scripting adventures (and I can get it to work on Unix too).
However, all this brings up the point, how am i going to rescue a computer. DOS can fit on a floppy, I can scoot things around with dos, edit things, load required drivers - basically DOS is THE rescue utility. How in the hell am I going to fix XP when DOS doesn't know what to do with NTFS? For that matter, how am I going to fix a computer at all once Intel starts pushing for the death of the floppy drive. Apperently Macs have gotten by for a long time without a CLI, but that seems a bit beyond me.
what you probably mean is HTML 2. A lot of modern browsers can actually sort of choke on HTML 1 as far as I've seen. Paragraph markers after the paragraph and such.
Well that also depends a lot on what games CAN be ported to a console. Just because you can doesn't mean that it's a good idea. Console games are fundamentally more action based. You tend to move around a character or something, and select from a quick menu. By contrast PC games interface with a mouse and keyboard - neither of which really translates well to a console. But of course any game that invovles a joystick probably can be easily ported to a console.
And all this pretty much completely ignores the Japanese market. As MS is the foreign entity over there, and probably not going to release half of the Japanese only titles that PS2 and Gamecube will develop (that we never see over here).
a lot of other browsers allow you to change you're user agent, so I'm not sure if "all browsers" apply. Opera can pass itself off as IE - it's just a simple option in the preferences. Not that I would advocate supporting any site that pulls this sort of stunt, but there are work arounds.
A better analogy would be buying a house and being FORCED to also buy and USE the butt ugly furniture from the 70's that came with it. You might be able to move around some of that crap furnature and put some new stuff in, but it's always going to be there.
do we even need a company that rakes in the dough to do it? I find it surprising that the people at KDE and Gnome couldn't put their heads together and say "Okay, lets make 20 fonts that don't suck". Looking at the windows side as a template, you don't even need that many - just alternatives to: Curior New, Times New Roman, Arial, Verdana, and Comic Sans. Add a scripty type font and you get a total of 6.
Consider it an investment in learning. At some point you have to consider if walking is really preferable to learning how to ride a bike to make things easier.
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You can't do that with in WIMP environments, God bless 'em (how do you script a mouse movement?)
The mouse has pretty good functinoality. For everything else, there's Perl.
I wonder how long it takes until we see:
"Windows update has detected that your passport is insecure. Please update passport"
"Windows update requires you to enter your passport information."
[x] always trust content from Microsoft
I've seen more than a couple people that have already pointed this out. This is OLD news. Linux will kill some Unixes and that to some extent is good (die SCO die!). I doubt *BSD will go anywhere. Linux will probably not replace Solaris and AIX on extreme high end uber boxes, but will probably take away stuff on the fringe low end stuff. Basically windows is not going to go away because a few buisnesses switched.
No, if there is going to be a downfall comming from MS it's not going to come from Linux, or any other operating system. It's going to START with the downfall of M$ office. If Open/Star office starts spreading like the plauge (which there's a 50/50 chance it will) this will break the grip of Microsoft, and start to give people actual options.
is it any better to have Microsoft guessing (or telling) us what we want? Actually computers already tend to guess what we mean on a regular basis. That's what spell/grammar checking does.
At first I missed the slash in there, and I thought that Microsoft had bought out the DOJ and changed it's name to MS DOJ. Well at least I can breathe a sigh of relief... for now.
Code == Free Speech
Compiled Code != Free Speech
Scripted Languages <=> ??
yeah, I agree. Unless you want to develop for a window manager, really learning one is trivial. Granted that screwing around with one and making cool window decorations is one thing, but that's not really relavent info. If you really want to learn *nix, looking at window managers is going in the wrong direction - most anything important is done via the CLI.
Well judging from the comments here, I doubt Slackware will ever die. I recently came across a laptop (Midwest Micro) with a 486 @ 66Mhz, 8mb RAM, and 500Mb hard drive. I decided to dump DOS on it, because it's a pain in the ass even to play DOS games on the thing (the trackball is busted). It ONLY has a floppy drive, so that right there limits my choices. I have this feeling that Free BSD will blow up in my face, so that leaves me with Linux. My question is, should I go with Debian, or will Slackware work. Lets face it, I'm doing a floppy install. I'm going to have to build everything up from scratch anyway, I'm just wondering if either distro has an advantage in this case.
sort of reminds me of a story of a guy that ran Linux and needed general TCP/IP info to connect to the internet. So he calls up his ISP to get the info and they refuse to give it to him because he uses Linux. Anyway, no serious ISP would go any (long) length of time not supporting XP.
Well that sort of depends on the drive too. I know at work there is a computer set up that runs 18 Gb SCSI 15k RPM drives mirrored, and those aren't exactly cheap (condidering a mirror is twice the cost for redundancy for a drive that was already expensive). With twice the swap of a machine that has 2Gb of RAM, we're talking 4Gb of swap - that's 22% of the drive.
From the article - " All earlier 2.4 kernels (since 2.3.12) needed at least the same amount of RAM in swap and then more to give you additional virtual memory. This meant that on an 8-GB server, you needed to put aside almost a full 9-GB disk just to be able to swap"
Is this accurate? For just about everything I've always gone with 512Mb of swap, regardless of whether I had more or less RAM (not that I'm technically proficient or anything). This would also be a shortcoming of Linux since it would make it a pain in the ass upgrading RAM if you needed to allocate more swap space somewhere else each time. Well I'm all for the newer VM. Simple is good.
You do pay for quality
Like Microsoft products? I do think that the Pentium III was a very good chip (certainly better than the old AMD k6), but right now, I would take an AMD processor over any Intel. Check out this article for a good read on the subject.
In all this I'm starting to wonder if MS isn't going to eventually dump the command line too, although I don't know how they even could, since there's more than a few programs that simply spit out text and nothing else. I'm not sure I care that DOS is even gone, since I tend to use Perl for most of my scripting adventures (and I can get it to work on Unix too).
However, all this brings up the point, how am i going to rescue a computer. DOS can fit on a floppy, I can scoot things around with dos, edit things, load required drivers - basically DOS is THE rescue utility. How in the hell am I going to fix XP when DOS doesn't know what to do with NTFS? For that matter, how am I going to fix a computer at all once Intel starts pushing for the death of the floppy drive. Apperently Macs have gotten by for a long time without a CLI, but that seems a bit beyond me.
what you probably mean is HTML 2. A lot of modern browsers can actually sort of choke on HTML 1 as far as I've seen. Paragraph markers after the paragraph and such.
Well that also depends a lot on what games CAN be ported to a console. Just because you can doesn't mean that it's a good idea. Console games are fundamentally more action based. You tend to move around a character or something, and select from a quick menu. By contrast PC games interface with a mouse and keyboard - neither of which really translates well to a console. But of course any game that invovles a joystick probably can be easily ported to a console.
And all this pretty much completely ignores the Japanese market. As MS is the foreign entity over there, and probably not going to release half of the Japanese only titles that PS2 and Gamecube will develop (that we never see over here).
I'll stick with the Free BSD boot loader. It looks sufficiently evil enough so that people don't touch my computer.
I doubt it. This isn't rocket science ya know.
right after Brainfuck.NET ?
a lot of other browsers allow you to change you're user agent, so I'm not sure if "all browsers" apply. Opera can pass itself off as IE - it's just a simple option in the preferences. Not that I would advocate supporting any site that pulls this sort of stunt, but there are work arounds.
A better analogy would be buying a house and being FORCED to also buy and USE the butt ugly furniture from the 70's that came with it. You might be able to move around some of that crap furnature and put some new stuff in, but it's always going to be there.
most colleges are moving to Java anyway. JDK = free
my replacement program for MSN messenger:
int main() { return 0; }
Perhaps they'll release DOA3 on X-box first, but maybe it will be a special edition - DOA -> dead on arrival
do we even need a company that rakes in the dough to do it? I find it surprising that the people at KDE and Gnome couldn't put their heads together and say "Okay, lets make 20 fonts that don't suck". Looking at the windows side as a template, you don't even need that many - just alternatives to: Curior New, Times New Roman, Arial, Verdana, and Comic Sans. Add a scripty type font and you get a total of 6.
Consider it an investment in learning. At some point you have to consider if walking is really preferable to learning how to ride a bike to make things easier.