These are taken from my Nokia 6670 (in turn copied from my old 7650), you'll have to work out where to enter them on your phone. This access point works for me with Netfront, Opera Mini, Opera 6 and 8(.0/.5) and the piss poor Nokia browser. I've transferred these details to a Sony Ericson K750i(?), and Opera Mini worked there too. I've never been charged for GPRS use in the ~3 years I've been with O2.
The only problem I have had is that I couldn't get my three mounth subscription to Operas compressing proxy to work with Opera 8.
Connection Name: O2 Mobile Web Data Bearer: GPRS Access point name: mobile.o2.co.uk Username: O2web Password: pass
Advanced- Phone IP: Automatic Proxy server address:193.113.200.195 Port: 8080
o2 has never charged me for GPRS use over the three years and two contracts I've had with them. Nor do they seem to be charging friends of mine on o2 either (though they only use GPRS occasionally).
Me too, and I wouldn't dream of putting any less than 512MB in. But the average person doesn't build, they buy. They buy cheap. And they get cheap:-/
Hmm..just bought a £400 laptop which has 256megs - hard to get less memory than that, and doubling it costs a few pounds. If you can afford a laptop, and you need extra performance, then it's there.
Again, agreed. However the average person in my experience doesn't appreciate this, and of course any swapping to the laptops drive is even slower.
5+ years ago Windows XP hadn't been released, and for the first year or two
of XPs life I saw many "entry level" machines ship with just 128MB.
To be fair (to me) we weren't talking about 5 years ago!
Well you brought that figure up:) I was just pointing out that while 5 years ago 128Mb was common, as close as just two to three years ago it wasn't that uncommon. If I was forced to guess (baised just on the PCs I go round and fix), most people are still using machines with 256MB of ram. A couple of unfortunates have 128MB, and a couple more have 512MB.
Common useage now for virus scanners is to have a resident shield that sits there, running all the time. Norton's is particularly annoying, because rather than just getting on with it, it also pops up plenty of little alerts just to let you know it's there. If you're installing a piece of software expect plenty of little pop ups from the systray along the lines of "Installer is waiting for a virus scan of filename.xxx [ok/cancel]".
And 512k? Luxury! My CPC had 128k and I liked it that way.:)
If the last few years means the last, say, 2 or 3 years, then I doubt hardly any of them have as little as 128 or even 256megs of ram. (It's hard to find a graphics card that has less than 256 megs of ram nowadays!)
You haven't really looked very hard then. Entry level (~£400) at the moment is between 256MB and 512MB. With integrated graphics nabbing some of that. Entry level laptops (~£600) tend to be the same. Here's a quick example
5+ years ago Windows XP hadn't been released, and for the first year or two of XPs life I saw many "entry level" machines ship with just 128MB.
but even on a 128meg machine, losing 25megs or so during a virus scan is surely insignificant - you won't notice it.
I can assure you you do, as the machine hits the swapfile hard. IIRC it takes about 96MB of ram just to get to the desktop in WinXP and hold it in RAM. That doesn't leave much room for running any programs, and much less once you have some antivirus software in the background (and you've probably lost a bit to integrated graphics as well).
Granted it's not as bad once you get to 256Mb land, but it's still noticeable. Especially as most of these entry level machines come loaded with tons of sys tray "helper" apps, each nibbling up a bit more of the scarce ram.
Ok, now imagine how important that RAM is to the average person who bought a computer in the last few years, when most of them only had 128Mb or 256MB fitted as standard.
Sorry to shatter any dreams you might of had, but Sue is 30 years or so my senior, and married. Plus my girlfriend wouldn't approve of that type of thing:)
While it can be pretty annoying while I'm there, it's worth it just for the amusing stories I get to come away with. I had tried to share a few more in this post, but the lameness filter wont let it through (too few characters per line, blah blah).
Shes the type that really is genuinely trying hard to learn more, but will never quite get it. Plus shes a friend of my boss, so just fixing these things makes my life easier in the long run.
I have a friend, I'll call Sue, who I help out by fixing her computer whenever they she does something stupid to it. Which is often.
Sue had been complaining for a while that her computer was slow. WinXP on a P3/600 128Mb isn't much fun:) So I figured out that she'd need PC700 Rambus ram (which as it happens ment that it would be cheaper and easier to just junk the thing and get a new one, but no, we can't do that). A couple of weeks later I get a call saying shes got the RAM and could I come over to fit it.
On my arrival she proudly told me that she'd been going to evening classes, learning how to fix computers, and the instructor had given her some spare RAM that would work.
Anyway, I opened up the case, and started to work my way through the wires looking for the RAM slots.
"No," she yelped, "You've got to use an earthing strap, or you'll damage it". She then launched into a nice 5 minute long lecture on the dangers of static electricity (which she'd learnt all about the previous night).
Ok, fine I'll wear the earthing strap. Although I'd already earthed myself by touching part of a near by radiator, this would save me any more earache.
"Ok, I can see the slot. Could you pass me the stick of RAM now please?"
Sue turned around, and picked up a nylon ruck sack. She unzipped the front of the ruck sack, rooted around inside for a bit, and then produced a single DIMM of PC66. Not in an antistatic bag, not in any kind of protection at all actually, from either physical damage or electrical damage. And covered in all sorts of whatever crap that was in the bottom of that ruck sack.
"Sue, why am I wearing an antistatic strap if you're going to carry the ram about, unprotected, in something that generates more static than your average Van der f**king Graaf generator?"
"Oh"
"And thats not a Rambus RIMM like I told you to get. It's a DIMM. PC66."
"Dave my instructor said it would work."
"It won't even physically fit in the slot. Look, the notches are in different places."
"But Dave said..."
"Dave is an idiot."
"Dave also gave me this to speed things up..."
And with that, Sue reached back into the ruck sack, and produced a K6-2 processor. Also covered in crap, not in an anti static bag.
Well yes it could, but I doubt it would support anything other than IE, and IE7 (without some sort of plugin) at that. Right now I'd bet OpenOffice.Org 2.0 combined with Mozilla Firefox (1.1?) will beat MS to XForms support.
You're slightly missing the point. The purpose of the door and the menu are analogous - they are functional devices to allow access to the work of 'real' interest inside, whereas the work inside is primarily about entertainment.
Now you can pretty up the door/menu all you like, paint it a different colour, add a window, whatever. But don't mess with the common functional elements (door handle on opposite side to hinge etc), because once the 'art' gets in the way of the functionality it's time for the art to go.
Standardisation of the functional elements of the menu would be a very good thing. Just claiming it's all just 'art' is a cop out excuse for poor usability.
So there's this art gallery filled with the most amazing art. Everyone would love to see it, but there's just one problem - the door to get in. You see, the owner (who incidentally created much of the work inside) decided that the best place for the door knob would be in the top corner next to the hinges. Oh, and the hinges were on the opposite side to normal doors. Not only that, but he decided to paint lots of images on the door that happen to look a lot like door knobs.
Patrons of the art gallery were initially confused, later this feeling gave way to frustration, and eventually anger. Understandable really, as when they complained about the door to the owner, he just waived his hands in the air and pithily reply "Hey it's art. Art always trumps design and functionality!".
Fortunately the whole situation was resolved a few weeks later when the owner was tragically run over while crossing a zebra crossing he'd previously painted completely black (oooh moody art!).
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These are taken from my Nokia 6670 (in turn copied from my old 7650), you'll have to work out where to enter them on your phone. This access point works for me with Netfront, Opera Mini, Opera 6 and 8(.0/.5) and the piss poor Nokia browser. I've transferred these details to a Sony Ericson K750i(?), and Opera Mini worked there too. I've never been charged for GPRS use in the ~3 years I've been with O2.
The only problem I have had is that I couldn't get my three mounth subscription to Operas compressing proxy to work with Opera 8.
Connection Name: O2 Mobile Web
Data Bearer: GPRS
Access point name: mobile.o2.co.uk
Username: O2web
Password: pass
Advanced-
Phone IP: Automatic
Proxy server address:193.113.200.195
Port: 8080
Opera does.
o2 has never charged me for GPRS use over the three years and two contracts I've had with them. Nor do they seem to be charging friends of mine on o2 either (though they only use GPRS occasionally).
IIRC, WinIE5 and 6
Netscape 4.x
+6 Funny
:)
Please
Those fuckers killed Aureal. Creative has been on my shit list ever since...
Hold down ctrl-shift. Click'n'drag.
Well you brought that figure up :) I was just pointing out that while 5 years ago 128Mb was common, as close as just two to three years ago it wasn't that uncommon. If I was forced to guess (baised just on the PCs I go round and fix), most people are still using machines with 256MB of ram. A couple of unfortunates have 128MB, and a couple more have 512MB.
Common useage now for virus scanners is to have a resident shield that sits there, running all the time. Norton's is particularly annoying, because rather than just getting on with it, it also pops up plenty of little alerts just to let you know it's there. If you're installing a piece of software expect plenty of little pop ups from the systray along the lines of "Installer is waiting for a virus scan of filename.xxx [ok/cancel]".
And 512k? Luxury! My CPC had 128k and I liked it that way. :)
Only 5% profit? Not worth it :)
Ok, now imagine how important that RAM is to the average person who bought a computer in the last few years, when most of them only had 128Mb or 256MB fitted as standard.
Sorry to shatter any dreams you might of had, but Sue is 30 years or so my senior, and married. Plus my girlfriend wouldn't approve of that type of thing :)
While it can be pretty annoying while I'm there, it's worth it just for the amusing stories I get to come away with. I had tried to share a few more in this post, but the lameness filter wont let it through (too few characters per line, blah blah).
Shes the type that really is genuinely trying hard to learn more, but will never quite get it. Plus shes a friend of my boss, so just fixing these things makes my life easier in the long run.
I have a friend, I'll call Sue, who I help out by fixing her computer whenever they she does something stupid to it. Which is often.
:) So I figured out that she'd need PC700 Rambus ram (which as it happens ment that it would be cheaper and easier to just junk the thing and get a new one, but no, we can't do that). A couple of weeks later I get a call saying shes got the RAM and could I come over to fit it.
Sue had been complaining for a while that her computer was slow. WinXP on a P3/600 128Mb isn't much fun
On my arrival she proudly told me that she'd been going to evening classes, learning how to fix computers, and the instructor had given her some spare RAM that would work.
Anyway, I opened up the case, and started to work my way through the wires looking for the RAM slots.
"No," she yelped, "You've got to use an earthing strap, or you'll damage it". She then launched into a nice 5 minute long lecture on the dangers of static electricity (which she'd learnt all about the previous night).
Ok, fine I'll wear the earthing strap. Although I'd already earthed myself by touching part of a near by radiator, this would save me any more earache.
"Ok, I can see the slot. Could you pass me the stick of RAM now please?"
Sue turned around, and picked up a nylon ruck sack. She unzipped the front of the ruck sack, rooted around inside for a bit, and then produced a single DIMM of PC66. Not in an antistatic bag, not in any kind of protection at all actually, from either physical damage or electrical damage. And covered in all sorts of whatever crap that was in the bottom of that ruck sack.
"Sue, why am I wearing an antistatic strap if you're going to carry the ram about, unprotected, in something that generates more static than your average Van der f**king Graaf generator?"
"Oh"
"And thats not a Rambus RIMM like I told you to get. It's a DIMM. PC66."
"Dave my instructor said it would work."
"It won't even physically fit in the slot. Look, the notches are in different places."
"But Dave said..."
"Dave is an idiot."
"Dave also gave me this to speed things up..."
And with that, Sue reached back into the ruck sack, and produced a K6-2 processor. Also covered in crap, not in an anti static bag.
No it was rated NC17. Suitable for 17year olds plus. The AO rating it was shifted to afterwards moved it into 18+ territory.
That year makes all the difference apparently.
Well it was an 18 cert to start with anyway here.
IIRC Progman.exe is still there and can be used as the windows shell.
Well yes it could, but I doubt it would support anything other than IE, and IE7 (without some sort of plugin) at that. Right now I'd bet OpenOffice.Org 2.0 combined with Mozilla Firefox (1.1?) will beat MS to XForms support.
Like you can do with PDFs today (and for the past couple of years)?
I think you mean "Youngling".
You're slightly missing the point. The purpose of the door and the menu are analogous - they are functional devices to allow access to the work of 'real' interest inside, whereas the work inside is primarily about entertainment.
Now you can pretty up the door/menu all you like, paint it a different colour, add a window, whatever. But don't mess with the common functional elements (door handle on opposite side to hinge etc), because once the 'art' gets in the way of the functionality it's time for the art to go.
Standardisation of the functional elements of the menu would be a very good thing. Just claiming it's all just 'art' is a cop out excuse for poor usability.
So there's this art gallery filled with the most amazing art. Everyone would love to see it, but there's just one problem - the door to get in. You see, the owner (who incidentally created much of the work inside) decided that the best place for the door knob would be in the top corner next to the hinges. Oh, and the hinges were on the opposite side to normal doors. Not only that, but he decided to paint lots of images on the door that happen to look a lot like door knobs.
Patrons of the art gallery were initially confused, later this feeling gave way to frustration, and eventually anger. Understandable really, as when they complained about the door to the owner, he just waived his hands in the air and pithily reply "Hey it's art. Art always trumps design and functionality!".
Fortunately the whole situation was resolved a few weeks later when the owner was tragically run over while crossing a zebra crossing he'd previously painted completely black (oooh moody art!).
Well if they advertised their guns with the tag line:
"Great for robbing banks!", then maybe...
Fine, go get a Nokia 1100 or similar. I'll stick with my 6670, someone else can go for something in the 9xxx range if that suits them.
Or didn't you realise Nokia makes more than one type of phone?
Well there is Lunix. Also far away from Linux :)