You're allowed to do all that, but one goal of the open source and free software licenses is to insure that the original authors retain credit. So, you can reuse the code, change the name, modify, redistribute, even sell to your heart's content, as long as you don't misrepresent the work of others as your own.
And this is exactly why everyone should be wary of using the GPL for their work! Look how it is going to hamper this nice American business in their attempts to add their contribution to the software economy. These people will probably be shut down, all thanks to the evil GPL. Richard Stallman is a fanatic! Don't listen to him!
Just think: if the CDex developers had used a safer license, like the BSD license, then they would not now be in the unfortunate situation of hindering American business. It's tantamount to terrorism, I tell you!
Many of us read the Google timeline when it was first released.:)
Very interesting stuff. I remember that I was inspired to look through the history of Linux and GNU in the archives, and found the first announcement of Yggdrasil, the first Linux distribution. For all of you who complain about "GNU/Linux," you should know that Yggdrasil was billed as "Linux/GNU/X11."
Please consider also the opinion of Richard Stallman and the FSF. While most on this site are quick to dismiss Stallman as an idealist, his opinion still carries quite a bit of weight. For maximum success in the community, shoot for satisfying both the OSI definition of Open Source and the FSF definition of free software.
Others have mentioned this, but a U.S. passport is a very unique document. For starters, it is one of the few (maybe the only) document that is both 1) proof of citizenship and 2) proof of identity. There are many situations (such as starting a new job, I think; been awhile since I started mine) when you need to provide proof of citizenship and proof of identity; you usually need two documents for this, but a passport can stand in for both of them. Second, even an expired passport is still considered proof of citizenship and identity (since, obviously, even though the document is expired, you are still a U.S. citizen and still the person you were when the passport was granted).
I can't believe there's anyone in the airline industry who doesn't know this. They must work only domestic flights, but even then I still don't see how they could not know this.
At Yet Another Perl Conference this year there was a book auction to raise funds for Perl development. Tons and tons of O'Reilly, Manning, and other books, and not just Perl books. It was interesting to see where the interests lay. There were plenty of wisecracks and groans for Java, Python, and PHP books. (I picked up Learning Python for $10.) Interestingly enough, there was intense interest in the Ruby books, and no wisecracks. Went for a higher than average price, I believe.
Interestingly enough, early Microsoft did a lot of its internal development on Xenix, including using it to build DOS software. (And maybe windows, too; I don't know how long it lasted.) They were convinced Xenix was going to be the desktop OS of the future, once it was made to look more like then-current desktop systems.
Actually, I think these kinds of errors are usually caused by seeing the quoted rates of the contractor you wanted to get to create your ecommerce site and saying, "Can't we get anyone cheaper?":)
If you read "excessively" you won't ever get to moderate. I've only gotten points three times, and usually after I went on vacation or was too busy to read for a week. Apparently it doesn't take too much to be "excessive."
I highly suspect a lot of the whiners who say, "I've been banned from moderating!" are excessive readers, like me.
I someone would have sold me a 56K full-time modem with static IP account for a reasonable price I would have jumped all over it.
I used to make the same comment before I moved and got DirecTV DSL. Sounds like we had the same preferences, same problem, and same provider to solve the problem.
I think the question shows a fundamental misunderstanding by asking us to say whether we think the philosophy is more important or the quality of the software and by making the statement "as embarrassing commercialism is against the freedom of Open Source Software." Open source is not about eliminating commercialism or business. Despite comments often made to the contrary, most open source/free software advocates are not Communist, anti-capitalist, or anti-business. Please see also RMS's comments about how commercial and free software are not mutually exclusive and selling free software.
Advertising in open source/free software would not be a sacrifice of principle. That said, I seriously doubt it would help the quality of the software, either.
The reason "deep" linking should not be illegal is because there is no fundamental difference between a deep link and a regular link. We should quit playing the game by using this term to distinguish "deep" links from others.
You can't come up with a clear, unambiguous definition of deep links without having a special database or extension to the DNS database (!) to indicate what a site considers to be deep links on a case-by-case basis. In otherwords, the only clear and concise definition of a "deep" link is "a page on the website of Somebody Powerful that that Somebody doesn't want me to link to."
You can't just say, "A deep link is a link that goes somewhere besides the top of a site." For example, this is a deep link (to a website that has tried to force people not to link to them, I might add), while this is not. Both are links to something other than just ahost.domain.com, but the second is the top page of a site.
The real problem is web newbies (big media companies) think every website should have one entry point, but the web wasn't designed that way. We should quit helping these people persist in their misunderstanding of reality by using the term "deep link."
I'd say the Bible strongly implies evolution did not happen. HOWEVER, the Bible most certainly does not say life does not exist on other planets.
C.S. Lewis once said atheists wanted to have it both ways with extraterrestrial life. If life exists on other planets, that proves we're not unique and not special, and so there's no God. On the other hand, if life doesn't exist on other planets, that proves we're an accident, and therefore there's no God. (Gross simplification of what he said, from memory.)
To my atheist/agnostic friends: the Bible makes no comments about whether there is life elsewhere or not. Anybody who tells you otherwise is taking something out of context. If you don't believe me, ask them for the reference and go read it for yourself.
Some will say the sacrifice of Jesus makes no sense if there is life on other planets, because how could those races be saved? There are two possibilities. Perhaps such races never sinned, as we did, and thus don't need salvation. (C.S. Lewis treated this possibility in his Space Trilogy.) Or, perhaps the Son of God was born on multiple worlds to save multiple lost races. The Bible DOES NOT SAY.
So, evidence of life on other worlds should not faze a Bible-believer.
I'd just like to go on the record and say not everyone thinks likening John Ashcroft to bin Laden is an appropriate comparison. Slashdot may be lockstep on some issues, but let's open our minds and have some healthy disagreement here. Try a different perspective for a change.
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You have exactly the same problem on slashdot! Even if your password is not being printed in plaintext in the URL, it's being printed in plaintext in the body of the POST HTTP request when you log in. The only way around that is SSL (https) websites.
I'm much more concerned about someone getting my slashdot password than getting my slashdot.meetup.com password. And not really too concerned about either, when you come right down to it.
If this was a problem, how come you never mentioned it before? How did you log in?
(open source) is clearly not compelling yet or (Opera)
Sigh; Opera's not open source. Of all the reasons to discount open source right now, the success or failure of Opera doesn't seem to be one of them.
I thought the term "open source" was supposed to help us eliminate the confusion between software-gratis and software-with-freedoms-included.
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There are some really good free software games, like freeciv. I'm enjoying watching them develop and begin to rival proprietary offerings. Also, this week on a whim I started writing a free clone of Stratego. It's not pretty, but you can get it here.
I'm not running 100% free software yet, but when I do, I don't think need for games is going to be a problem.
Don't be too proud of this technical monstrosity you've constructed. The ability to transfer the Library of Congress in less than three hours is insignificant compared to the power of the slashdot effect.
Rats. It would have been funny if you hadn't gotten to it first.:)
And as a second attempt at explaining, it's sort of related to the anagram craze that began in today's poll (started in an option and then spread in several comments). Only my anagram isn't near as funny as the ones other people are coming up with.
Slashdot Mirror
Thank you. I tried to respond but was unable to find the words. Thank you for putting it so succinctly.
You're allowed to do all that, but one goal of the open source and free software licenses is to insure that the original authors retain credit. So, you can reuse the code, change the name, modify, redistribute, even sell to your heart's content, as long as you don't misrepresent the work of others as your own.
And this is exactly why everyone should be wary of using the GPL for their work! Look how it is going to hamper this nice American business in their attempts to add their contribution to the software economy. These people will probably be shut down, all thanks to the evil GPL. Richard Stallman is a fanatic! Don't listen to him!
Just think: if the CDex developers had used a safer license, like the BSD license, then they would not now be in the unfortunate situation of hindering American business. It's tantamount to terrorism, I tell you!
Many of us read the Google timeline when it was first released. :)
Very interesting stuff. I remember that I was inspired to look through the history of Linux and GNU in the archives, and found the first announcement of Yggdrasil, the first Linux distribution. For all of you who complain about "GNU/Linux," you should know that Yggdrasil was billed as "Linux/GNU/X11."
Please consider also the opinion of Richard Stallman and the FSF. While most on this site are quick to dismiss Stallman as an idealist, his opinion still carries quite a bit of weight. For maximum success in the community, shoot for satisfying both the OSI definition of Open Source and the FSF definition of free software.
Others have mentioned this, but a U.S. passport is a very unique document. For starters, it is one of the few (maybe the only) document that is both 1) proof of citizenship and 2) proof of identity. There are many situations (such as starting a new job, I think; been awhile since I started mine) when you need to provide proof of citizenship and proof of identity; you usually need two documents for this, but a passport can stand in for both of them. Second, even an expired passport is still considered proof of citizenship and identity (since, obviously, even though the document is expired, you are still a U.S. citizen and still the person you were when the passport was granted).
I can't believe there's anyone in the airline industry who doesn't know this. They must work only domestic flights, but even then I still don't see how they could not know this.
At Yet Another Perl Conference this year there was a book auction to raise funds for Perl development. Tons and tons of O'Reilly, Manning, and other books, and not just Perl books. It was interesting to see where the interests lay. There were plenty of wisecracks and groans for Java, Python, and PHP books. (I picked up Learning Python for $10.) Interestingly enough, there was intense interest in the Ruby books, and no wisecracks. Went for a higher than average price, I believe.
Point 'em at the GPL FAQ to clear up these long standing (and baseless) myths.
How did these ideas get started, anyway?
Interestingly enough, early Microsoft did a lot of its internal development on Xenix, including using it to build DOS software. (And maybe windows, too; I don't know how long it lasted.) They were convinced Xenix was going to be the desktop OS of the future, once it was made to look more like then-current desktop systems.
Exactly what Apple did with OS X.
I send you this rhetoric in order to have your advice.
Actually, I think these kinds of errors are usually caused by seeing the quoted rates of the contractor you wanted to get to create your ecommerce site and saying, "Can't we get anyone cheaper?" :)
If you read "excessively" you won't ever get to moderate. I've only gotten points three times, and usually after I went on vacation or was too busy to read for a week. Apparently it doesn't take too much to be "excessive."
I highly suspect a lot of the whiners who say, "I've been banned from moderating!" are excessive readers, like me.
I have the same results on use Perl;, too.
I someone would have sold me a 56K full-time modem with static IP account for a reasonable price I would have jumped all over it.
I used to make the same comment before I moved and got DirecTV DSL. Sounds like we had the same preferences, same problem, and same provider to solve the problem.
I think the question shows a fundamental misunderstanding by asking us to say whether we think the philosophy is more important or the quality of the software and by making the statement "as embarrassing commercialism is against the freedom of Open Source Software." Open source is not about eliminating commercialism or business. Despite comments often made to the contrary, most open source/free software advocates are not Communist, anti-capitalist, or anti-business. Please see also RMS's comments about how commercial and free software are not mutually exclusive and selling free software.
Advertising in open source/free software would not be a sacrifice of principle. That said, I seriously doubt it would help the quality of the software, either.
The reason "deep" linking should not be illegal is because there is no fundamental difference between a deep link and a regular link. We should quit playing the game by using this term to distinguish "deep" links from others.
You can't come up with a clear, unambiguous definition of deep links without having a special database or extension to the DNS database (!) to indicate what a site considers to be deep links on a case-by-case basis. In otherwords, the only clear and concise definition of a "deep" link is "a page on the website of Somebody Powerful that that Somebody doesn't want me to link to."
You can't just say, "A deep link is a link that goes somewhere besides the top of a site." For example, this is a deep link (to a website that has tried to force people not to link to them, I might add), while this is not. Both are links to something other than just ahost.domain.com, but the second is the top page of a site.
The real problem is web newbies (big media companies) think every website should have one entry point, but the web wasn't designed that way. We should quit helping these people persist in their misunderstanding of reality by using the term "deep link."
I'd say the Bible strongly implies evolution did not happen. HOWEVER, the Bible most certainly does not say life does not exist on other planets.
C.S. Lewis once said atheists wanted to have it both ways with extraterrestrial life. If life exists on other planets, that proves we're not unique and not special, and so there's no God. On the other hand, if life doesn't exist on other planets, that proves we're an accident, and therefore there's no God. (Gross simplification of what he said, from memory.)
To my atheist/agnostic friends: the Bible makes no comments about whether there is life elsewhere or not. Anybody who tells you otherwise is taking something out of context. If you don't believe me, ask them for the reference and go read it for yourself.
Some will say the sacrifice of Jesus makes no sense if there is life on other planets, because how could those races be saved? There are two possibilities. Perhaps such races never sinned, as we did, and thus don't need salvation. (C.S. Lewis treated this possibility in his Space Trilogy.) Or, perhaps the Son of God was born on multiple worlds to save multiple lost races. The Bible DOES NOT SAY.
So, evidence of life on other worlds should not faze a Bible-believer.
I'd just like to go on the record and say not everyone thinks likening John Ashcroft to bin Laden is an appropriate comparison. Slashdot may be lockstep on some issues, but let's open our minds and have some healthy disagreement here. Try a different perspective for a change.
What's with the F's? Did I miss a meme?
You have exactly the same problem on slashdot! Even if your password is not being printed in plaintext in the URL, it's being printed in plaintext in the body of the POST HTTP request when you log in. The only way around that is SSL (https) websites.
I'm much more concerned about someone getting my slashdot password than getting my slashdot.meetup.com password. And not really too concerned about either, when you come right down to it.
If this was a problem, how come you never mentioned it before? How did you log in?
(open source) is clearly not compelling yet or (Opera)
Sigh; Opera's not open source. Of all the reasons to discount open source right now, the success or failure of Opera doesn't seem to be one of them.
I thought the term "open source" was supposed to help us eliminate the confusion between software-gratis and software-with-freedoms-included.
There are some really good free software games, like freeciv. I'm enjoying watching them develop and begin to rival proprietary offerings. Also, this week on a whim I started writing a free clone of Stratego. It's not pretty, but you can get it here.
I'm not running 100% free software yet, but when I do, I don't think need for games is going to be a problem.
Don't be too proud of this technical monstrosity you've constructed. The ability to transfer the Library of Congress in less than three hours is insignificant compared to the power of the slashdot effect.
Rats. It would have been funny if you hadn't gotten to it first. :)
I didn't realize it was ActiveState Perl. That's good. PPM is pretty good, from what I hear.
I can't see why you'd want to go Perl CGI when you could go PerlScript ASP.
CPAN. Does PerlScript use CPAN? If not, the primary advantage of Perl (for me) is lost.
And as a second attempt at explaining, it's sort of related to the anagram craze that began in today's poll (started in an option and then spread in several comments). Only my anagram isn't near as funny as the ones other people are coming up with.