Re:What is the big deal about compilation?
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>>Why is everyone forgetting that NOTHING is stopping you from installing an RPM. Just "inject" that version number of your installed RPM into Portage and it knows you have it. Nothing is stopping you from installing something manually, without using portage.
I personally like to build my own kernels from scratch without the patches the Gentoo-ized kernels include. To do this I would "inject" as you suggested. Injecting a package is obsolete now, and you should instead place the package name in/etc/portage/profile/packages.provided or some such (I'm not on my Gentoo box now).
I also had a similar experience with RPMs and breaking things. Most distros seem to have that straightened out these days, but RPM hell was still a huge problem back when I switched to Gentoo. Gentoo's Portage generally takes care of things like dependencies exceptionally well. USE flags are also handy for compiling things like MPlayer.
It's certainly good that they came up with a better/cheaper plan than to service Hubble. It's not good that they didn't get around to telling the Appropriations Committee and wound up getting $116 million more than what was necessary.
I hope there's a way for NASA proceed with their newer plan and give the excess money back.
>>Everyone's focus is on 'fixing Hubble' when it should be on 'ensuring the availability of a high-quality astronomical observatory in orbit'.
Everyone's focus is on 'fixing Hubble' because the smart people at NASA originally told them to focus there. That's why they got over a quater billion dollars in funding to do it. NASA changed their focus to something better, but failed to tell the people who were paying for the original project. See the conflict?
It doesn't matter that NASA's new plan is better than the original. They, like all government funded agencies, simply cannot flip-flop like this.
Actually, I missed something important in your original message--the part where you said "[. ..]what percentage of your taxes go to which area[. . . ]" At first I thought you meant taxes in general.
Being a Libertarian, I believe that we should eliminate income taxes all together. And since most of the government's money comes from other means (taxing corporations and such) anyway, they'll still have plenty left to fund cool things like wars and science (In order to make better weapons for wars).
If you want to give the government money to spend on non-military things, I don't see a problem with that other than how only a small fraction of what you originally give will likely reach the people it was intended for. I'd prefer to write a check to a local charity or the EFF myself, personally.
You're thinking about from a practical standpoint. And you're right. However, the issue is not that NASA came up with a better plan than to service Hubble, the issue is that NASA was given a bunch of money to fund an expensive service trip and instead decided to spend the money on something else.
While it may make perfect sense to everyone outside D.C. to take the money originally appropriated, do something better with it, and use the remaining funds to do more cool NASA stuff, it doesn't quite click with the Appropriations Committee where they have to worry about spending too much taxpayer money.
NASA only needed $175 million in the end. They requested over $100 million more than that for the original plan and got it. They should've told the Appropriations Committee sooner so that they could have adjusted the amount of money to give to NASA and saved us taxpayers some money. It doesn't matter that the new plan will leave NASA will some excess funds. The money given to them for servicing a telescope *MUST* be used for servicing a telescope.
Think of it this way: When a student recieves his/her student loan check, do they buy books and pay for tuition with it as intended? Or do they use it to put a down payment on a new car? The student may see the new car as best way to spend the money, but obviously that's not what the money was intended for. Though NASA did not waste money like that, they did take the money that was intended for one thing and decide to do something else with it. The fact that NASA's new plan happens to save money and is a good thing in general doesn't really matter to the Appropriations Committee. They gave NASA a bunch of money to do something specific and they're pissed off that NASA wants to do something else with it.
Did you RTFA? The commonly-portrayed-as-evil politicians in this case actually GAVE NASA MORE MONEY than NASA really needed.
The problem isn't how much money NASA got. From TFA: "In the meantime, she said, she expects NASA to spend every penny of the $291 million included in the 2005 budget for Hubble servicing."
The problem is that NASA said they were going to do one thing with the money, then said that they'd do another thing with it instead. While that other thing may be better than the original plan, that's not how the money was meant to be spent.
>> Why would any scientific organization, including government created and funded ones, like NASA, listen to a senator?
Because the House and Senate Appropriations Committees are the people who pay their bills and let them exist.
From the article: "Government agencies are required to seek permission from congressional appropriators before using money for purposes other than which it was originally approved."
The money was originally meant for a repair mission. NASA got the money (Over a quarter billion) and then revealed a plan that would spend only $175 million. Agencies are not allowed to request huge sums of money and then use it for another purpose, even if that purpose just happens to be better (Perhaps launching a new telescope to replace Hubble?).
>>Do what is good for science, not what is good for some politican to get votes.
Misappropriation of funds does not help politicians get more votes. If anything, it hurts them because it means the government spent more money than it needed to. While you, me, and a bunch of Slashdotters may think that science is paramount there are others who don't agree.
That would be great. Then when someone decided to launch an attack against the civilian population or threaten sovereignty, we can rely on an underpowered, unprepared military force to not protect us.
Good one, they should really take that into consideration.
One cause I see for the US school system failing is how so much money they pour into programs that don't do much to promote academics at all, namely athletics. Sports are great and all in a recreational sense, but I don't see why money should be diverted from things like new textbooks, art and music programs, refitting a computer lab, etc. just so a handful of students can play games after or sometimes during school. I think Maddox would agree.
Most laptops have very similar chipsets as desktops--Same memory controller, same PCI controller, etc. The differences usually lie in power management, but that's more a thing for the OS to worry about.
The main reason the LinuxBIOS team hasn't done much with laptops is simply because laptops are a pain in the ass to work with. Once taken apart, it's a time consuming chore to put it back together (Take a look at the VAIO pics on their website). Worst of all, they usually have a soldered on BIOS chip which makes retail systems worthless for people wanting to tinker with their BIOS, and sadly a lot of companies don't see LinuxBIOS worthy of the hassle of sending the team special boards with a removable flash (Though companies like AMD and HP have been nice enough to donate machines with on-board JTAG debuggers for server platforms).
It's a lot easier to do this sort of development on a normal mainboard with a flash you can remove/replace using a $2 tool from Radioshack.
Re:Parent is flamebait and trollish. Mod down.
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A lot of people may not give a shit if they're harming corporations or whatever. But in our (United States) system, the wants of the many can not outweigh the rights of the few. I'll bet more than half the population thinks that they're getting screwed at the gas station. That doesn't give them the right to drive away from the pump without paying.
Like it or not, the asshats at the MPAA and RIAA have a right to protect their intellectual property. The problem is that the crime doesn't outweigh the punishment. A quarter million dollar fine per infringement is just insane, there is no justification for that. If speeding tickets cost a quarter million a pop, I'd just go speeding everywhere since I'd know that being fined some outrageous amount of money is inevitable and there'd be almost no way to hold on to my earnings.
Interesting how Linspire Live didn't get any mention. It's a formidible force in the desktop market and certainly deserves mention even if it doesn't exactly conform to some peoples' ideas of a "true" GNU/Linux distro.
This view should be popular amongst Slashdotters, but all in all it seems that people prefer not to think for themselves or just are not tech savvy enough to make many choices. Hence why apps bundled with Windows, no matter how crappy, tend to be the most popular of their kind (eg. WMP, Wordpad, etc). Same goes with filenames and paths, which is why a lot of Windows apps will automatically dump documents in "My Documents and Settings," put music in "My Music," etc.
>>If being a "first class citizen" means destroying everything that Linux is about in the first place [. ..]
Hmm, somehow I don't remember Linus ever saying that was what Linux was all about. In fact, he has always been a proponent of letting people do practically whatever the fsck they want with his kernel.
RMS on the other hand would probably agree with you. So if you're gonna complain, do it while using GNU/Hurd.
The cheapest, easiest, and best thing to do is to get an identical drive and put it in RAID mirroring mode. Continuous backup ready to be swapped out at any time without keeping track of backup media, and it's a whole hell of a lot faster than tape.
You're correct. To elaborate a little, Windows and *BSD kernels do BIOS callbacks for some reason, I'm pretty sure it's not for disk access though. Linux does not. For an example of this in action, check out LinuxBIOS and the shit someone (Adam Sulmicki) had to go through to get Win2K booting with his ADLO project. Linux on the other hand does not use BIOS callbacks (Unless explicitly told to as someone else mentioned).
This is just a working example of how one the Linux kernel is loaded, the BIOS is not touched. You're probably right about Windows for after it's all loaded, but for its own bootloader I'm pretty sure it has to use BIOS callbacks.
From page 4: "Garret: GTA III has all the faux cars based on real ones."
When was the last time you heard a 13-year old use the word "faux?" Just thought that was interesting. The dialogue looked pretty good but I thought this stood out a bit.
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>>Why is everyone forgetting that NOTHING is stopping you from installing an RPM. Just "inject" that version number of your installed RPM into Portage and it knows you have it. Nothing is stopping you from installing something manually, without using portage.
/etc/portage/profile/packages.provided or some such (I'm not on my Gentoo box now).
I personally like to build my own kernels from scratch without the patches the Gentoo-ized kernels include. To do this I would "inject" as you suggested. Injecting a package is obsolete now, and you should instead place the package name in
I also had a similar experience with RPMs and breaking things. Most distros seem to have that straightened out these days, but RPM hell was still a huge problem back when I switched to Gentoo. Gentoo's Portage generally takes care of things like dependencies exceptionally well. USE flags are also handy for compiling things like MPlayer.
Yep, and the same one owned by Amazon now if I'm not mistaken.
THANK YOU for saying that.
It's certainly good that they came up with a better/cheaper plan than to service Hubble. It's not good that they didn't get around to telling the Appropriations Committee and wound up getting $116 million more than what was necessary.
I hope there's a way for NASA proceed with their newer plan and give the excess money back.
>>Everyone's focus is on 'fixing Hubble' when it should be on 'ensuring the availability of a high-quality astronomical observatory in orbit'.
Everyone's focus is on 'fixing Hubble' because the smart people at NASA originally told them to focus there. That's why they got over a quater billion dollars in funding to do it. NASA changed their focus to something better, but failed to tell the people who were paying for the original project. See the conflict?
It doesn't matter that NASA's new plan is better than the original. They, like all government funded agencies, simply cannot flip-flop like this.
Actually, I missed something important in your original message--the part where you said "[. . .]what percentage of your taxes go to which area[. . . ]" At first I thought you meant taxes in general.
Being a Libertarian, I believe that we should eliminate income taxes all together. And since most of the government's money comes from other means (taxing corporations and such) anyway, they'll still have plenty left to fund cool things like wars and science (In order to make better weapons for wars).
If you want to give the government money to spend on non-military things, I don't see a problem with that other than how only a small fraction of what you originally give will likely reach the people it was intended for. I'd prefer to write a check to a local charity or the EFF myself, personally.
>>I'm well aware of why senators have a say in how NASA spends the money it is given, I just don't understand why NASA doesn't stand up for itself
Because they screwed up in this case. They knew the rules and did not obey them.
You're thinking about from a practical standpoint. And you're right. However, the issue is not that NASA came up with a better plan than to service Hubble, the issue is that NASA was given a bunch of money to fund an expensive service trip and instead decided to spend the money on something else.
While it may make perfect sense to everyone outside D.C. to take the money originally appropriated, do something better with it, and use the remaining funds to do more cool NASA stuff, it doesn't quite click with the Appropriations Committee where they have to worry about spending too much taxpayer money.
NASA only needed $175 million in the end. They requested over $100 million more than that for the original plan and got it. They should've told the Appropriations Committee sooner so that they could have adjusted the amount of money to give to NASA and saved us taxpayers some money. It doesn't matter that the new plan will leave NASA will some excess funds. The money given to them for servicing a telescope *MUST* be used for servicing a telescope.
Think of it this way: When a student recieves his/her student loan check, do they buy books and pay for tuition with it as intended? Or do they use it to put a down payment on a new car? The student may see the new car as best way to spend the money, but obviously that's not what the money was intended for. Though NASA did not waste money like that, they did take the money that was intended for one thing and decide to do something else with it. The fact that NASA's new plan happens to save money and is a good thing in general doesn't really matter to the Appropriations Committee. They gave NASA a bunch of money to do something specific and they're pissed off that NASA wants to do something else with it.
Did you RTFA? The commonly-portrayed-as-evil politicians in this case actually GAVE NASA MORE MONEY than NASA really needed.
The problem isn't how much money NASA got. From TFA: "In the meantime, she said, she expects NASA to spend every penny of the $291 million included in the 2005 budget for Hubble servicing."
The problem is that NASA said they were going to do one thing with the money, then said that they'd do another thing with it instead. While that other thing may be better than the original plan, that's not how the money was meant to be spent.
>> Why would any scientific organization, including government created and funded ones, like NASA, listen to a senator?
Because the House and Senate Appropriations Committees are the people who pay their bills and let them exist.
From the article:
"Government agencies are required to seek permission from congressional appropriators before using money for purposes other than which it was originally approved."
The money was originally meant for a repair mission. NASA got the money (Over a quarter billion) and then revealed a plan that would spend only $175 million. Agencies are not allowed to request huge sums of money and then use it for another purpose, even if that purpose just happens to be better (Perhaps launching a new telescope to replace Hubble?).
>>Do what is good for science, not what is good for some politican to get votes.
Misappropriation of funds does not help politicians get more votes. If anything, it hurts them because it means the government spent more money than it needed to. While you, me, and a bunch of Slashdotters may think that science is paramount there are others who don't agree.
That would be great. Then when someone decided to launch an attack against the civilian population or threaten sovereignty, we can rely on an underpowered, unprepared military force to not protect us.
Good one, they should really take that into consideration.
Just out of curiosity, why was this posted in YRO? What does the DoJ's choice of word processor have to do with my rights?
One cause I see for the US school system failing is how so much money they pour into programs that don't do much to promote academics at all, namely athletics. Sports are great and all in a recreational sense, but I don't see why money should be diverted from things like new textbooks, art and music programs, refitting a computer lab, etc. just so a handful of students can play games after or sometimes during school. I think Maddox would agree.
Most laptops have very similar chipsets as desktops--Same memory controller, same PCI controller, etc. The differences usually lie in power management, but that's more a thing for the OS to worry about.
The main reason the LinuxBIOS team hasn't done much with laptops is simply because laptops are a pain in the ass to work with. Once taken apart, it's a time consuming chore to put it back together (Take a look at the VAIO pics on their website). Worst of all, they usually have a soldered on BIOS chip which makes retail systems worthless for people wanting to tinker with their BIOS, and sadly a lot of companies don't see LinuxBIOS worthy of the hassle of sending the team special boards with a removable flash (Though companies like AMD and HP have been nice enough to donate machines with on-board JTAG debuggers for server platforms).
It's a lot easier to do this sort of development on a normal mainboard with a flash you can remove/replace using a $2 tool from Radioshack.
A lot of people may not give a shit if they're harming corporations or whatever. But in our (United States) system, the wants of the many can not outweigh the rights of the few. I'll bet more than half the population thinks that they're getting screwed at the gas station. That doesn't give them the right to drive away from the pump without paying.
Like it or not, the asshats at the MPAA and RIAA have a right to protect their intellectual property. The problem is that the crime doesn't outweigh the punishment. A quarter million dollar fine per infringement is just insane, there is no justification for that. If speeding tickets cost a quarter million a pop, I'd just go speeding everywhere since I'd know that being fined some outrageous amount of money is inevitable and there'd be almost no way to hold on to my earnings.
Interesting how Linspire Live didn't get any mention. It's a formidible force in the desktop market and certainly deserves mention even if it doesn't exactly conform to some peoples' ideas of a "true" GNU/Linux distro.
Did anyone else with anime specifically disabled in their preferences see that fsck'in green haired wanton on their front page?
ANIME SUCKS
Just check out the work Yinghai Lu has been doing on LinuxBIOS for Tyan boards. He even has it working for nVidia Crush K8s based Tyan boards.
This view should be popular amongst Slashdotters, but all in all it seems that people prefer not to think for themselves or just are not tech savvy enough to make many choices. Hence why apps bundled with Windows, no matter how crappy, tend to be the most popular of their kind (eg. WMP, Wordpad, etc). Same goes with filenames and paths, which is why a lot of Windows apps will automatically dump documents in "My Documents and Settings," put music in "My Music," etc.
>>If being a "first class citizen" means destroying everything that Linux is about in the first place [. . .]
Hmm, somehow I don't remember Linus ever saying that was what Linux was all about. In fact, he has always been a proponent of letting people do practically whatever the fsck they want with his kernel.
RMS on the other hand would probably agree with you. So if you're gonna complain, do it while using GNU/Hurd.
>>When did using computers or the internet become an "experience"? They're tools, nothing more.
When people discovered that they could download vast amounts of porn for free.
Gamers.
The cheapest, easiest, and best thing to do is to get an identical drive and put it in RAID mirroring mode. Continuous backup ready to be swapped out at any time without keeping track of backup media, and it's a whole hell of a lot faster than tape.
Backup is really becoming easier.
You're correct. To elaborate a little, Windows and *BSD kernels do BIOS callbacks for some reason, I'm pretty sure it's not for disk access though. Linux does not. For an example of this in action, check out LinuxBIOS and the shit someone (Adam Sulmicki) had to go through to get Win2K booting with his ADLO project. Linux on the other hand does not use BIOS callbacks (Unless explicitly told to as someone else mentioned).
This is just a working example of how one the Linux kernel is loaded, the BIOS is not touched. You're probably right about Windows for after it's all loaded, but for its own bootloader I'm pretty sure it has to use BIOS callbacks.
From page 4:
"Garret: GTA III has all the faux cars based on real ones."
When was the last time you heard a 13-year old use the word "faux?" Just thought that was interesting. The dialogue looked pretty good but I thought this stood out a bit.
Interesting. The only time I've seen Opera run with poor fonts was when something in my environment settings or X config was borked.