I'd call a "donation" (if you will) of 20 Million to a country that was paying their teachers with bottles of Vodka because they couldn't afford anything else "massive".
How is this OffTopic (or warrent a zero)? I'm trying to run the topic's refferenced app with the topic's refferenced language, and I can't. I could've posted links to goatsex, or a really pretty way of looking at a Network, but I didn't.
If the moderator had actually read the reply to this, he/she/it would've seen that this is (potentially) a python (version) "problem" that everyone should know about.
[root@set gtv]# python gtv.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gtv.py", line 3, in ?
import gnut, time, sys, math, host, os
ImportError: Bad magic number in gnut.pyc
In the memo there is a pretty graph of the differnt flavors of "Open Source". They list "BSD-Style". The interesting there is that the "All Derivatives Must Be Free" column is not checked.
I agree, I'm not saying any different. For HP to charge a grand for the same damn thing I can build for a few undred (and have 10X more usibility) is insane.
But, as been pointed out a billion times by posters already, this isn't targeted at people like "us" (geeks with too much time and ideas), it's for people that don't have a freakin' clue that this can be easily made for pretty cheap (and that have a hard time infront of an ATM machine...).
You should have actually READ the article before you spewed your BS:
what's in the box?
*HP digital entertainment center de100c with HomePNA card *ethernet 10/100 baseT card, 56K v.90 modem
*remote control with 2 AAA batteries
*20 ft. phone cable, phone line splitter
*installation placemat and documentation
*6 ft. AC power cable, 6 ft. stereo and video cables
*3-pack HP digital audio music CD-R media (700 MB/80min)
And if that wasn't enough for you:
*
the HP digital entertainment center works great with broadband, home networks, and dial-up Internet service providers
I don't know what you're smoking, but as of 7:07 EDT, it says 388...
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The problem is that every widget is hand drawn instead of using the native OS widgets. So scrollbars, drop down boxes, etc. are all taking up rendering time.
LOGIC! My God! There's someone on/. who sees the simplicity of things...
Thank you for posting this.
This is (some of) why I use Konqueror 98% of the time. It uses KDE's own wigets. Which not only provides a similarity to the rest of the "OS", it also boosts the hell out of render time.
Konqueror isn't perfect, however. I said 98%. That other 2% is dedicated to Mozilla. Theres just some things that Konqueor has a hard time with. Ever try to do a TV Guide search with Konqueror? It doesn't render the search page (almost) at all. I'm not sure why. I've looked at the source page to try to figure out why it doesn't render it right so I can send a fix (or at least a suggestion) to the KDE Team, but I have yet been able to see what's wrong.
Wil Weaton submits yeasterday: "You know, I don't have a huge problem with Katz, and I don't really understand why some people do." Today there a JonKatz post.
If Tom chooses to use somebody else's chipset, it's not AMD's fault when that chipset doesn't have support for powering the box down when it starts to overheat.
I'm not saying it's someone's "fault". I'm simply saying that AMD is great at making microwaves. This isn't a AMD vs. Intel thing. AMD definatly has the better idea, they just need to work on the chipset before I'd even consider one for a "production" box. As another AC points out:
Now, with a P4, the system throttles down so that it never shuts down. Instead, it just runs about 90% slower. I'd personally rather have it shut down rather than wonder what's going on with a slow machine.
Yup. The Intel proc does keep running. Even if it's half-assed, the Intel keeps running. Production boxen need to be up. If the thing's running that damn slow, even a brain-dead Admin will be able to figure something's wrong when the calls start coming in.
Oh, wait... the box is up. You can actually try to figure out what's wrong. Not "waltz" back to the Server Room to a dead box and wonder from there...
This is utter bullshit. In the first clip, dude pyulls the fan off. OK. Well it cut away in about 2 seconds. What happened then? Most of that answer is obvious, the freakin' game died (and so did the box from the looks of it)
In the second clip, The game died and so did the box.
In the third clip, The game died and so did the box.
This is MAJOR miss-information (as far as I can tell). The only setup I can find is for POP/SMTP servers. Yes, I understand Exchange supports POP/SMTP, but it comes with the REAL secure thing known as clear text logins. I disabled POP and SMTP on my Exchange server years ago because of this.
Joan was quizzical
Studied patophysical science in the home
Late nights all alone with a test tube, Oh-oh-oh-oh
Maxwell Edison
Majoring in medicine calls her on the phone
Can I take you out to the pictures, Jo-o-o-oan?
But as she's getting ready to go
a knock comes on the door
Bang Bang Maxwell's Silver Hammer came down upon her head
Clang Clang Maxwell's Silver Hammer made sure that she was dead
Back in school again
Maxwell plays the fool again, teacher gets annoyed
Wishing to avoid an unpleasant sce-e-e-ene
She tells Max to stay
When the class has gone away, so he waits behind
Writing fifty times I must not be so-o-o-o
But when she turns her back on the boy
He creeps up from behind
Bang Bang Maxwell's Silver Hammer came down upon her head
Clang Clang Maxwell's Silver Hammer made sure that she was dead
With the things that have been going on lately you shouldn't be bothered by this. Would you rather have someone sneaking something in they shouldn't or even sneaking something out that is dangerous. If you odn't like it quit and try and find a good job in these hard economic times that doesn't search you. Good look trying to find something outside of McDonalds.
I would rather be patted down on my way into work then have some lunitic making a bomb or some chemical for some crazy mission sitting next to me.
Yes, I understand that just some Rent-A-Cop rubbing my legs isn't going to stop the determined individual, but it certainly isn't a bad idea.
Yes, I'm sure it's VERY damn annoying (I can't speak from personal experience other than the gown-up procedures involed in going into a bio-medical clean room), but d00d, mellow out.
Dude, get with the times. OK, fine. I've had this arguent with a Brit ICQ friend I've known for about 3 years now. He wonders why we dont spell "harbor" with the "U" (and similar), "I don't know" is my best answer.
My point was different people say different things and say those things, different ways. I do. Do you?
Yes, technically, I speak English. In reality, I speak American. It just so happens that American is mostly based on English (British). Hmmm... I wonder why.... (please don't go into the whole latin foundry of this language...)
Isn't it because it was the British colonized this country?
Nah, can't have anything to do with that...
This is obviously a subscriber to "Hooked on Ebonics"...
Not a really "massive" infusion
I'd call a "donation" (if you will) of 20 Million to a country that was paying their teachers with bottles of Vodka because they couldn't afford anything else "massive".
I really hate to be a prick (really, I do) but,
How is this OffTopic (or warrent a zero)? I'm trying to run the topic's refferenced app with the topic's refferenced language, and I can't. I could've posted links to goatsex, or a really pretty way of looking at a Network, but I didn't.
If the moderator had actually read the reply to this, he/she/it would've seen that this is (potentially) a python (version) "problem" that everyone should know about.
You can always watch them doing it too. :-)
but I can't get this to run. Any ideas?
[root@set gtv]# rpm -qa | grep python | sort
libpython2.1-2.1.1-5mdk
libpython2.1-devel-2.1.1-5mdk
python-2.1.1-5mdk
python-docs-2.1.1-5mdk
python-imaging-1.1.2-3mdk
pythonlib-1.28-1mdk
python-numeric-20.1.0-2mdk
python-numeric-devel-20.1.0-2mdk
rpm-python-4.0.3-0.28mdk
[root@set gtv]# python gtv.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gtv.py", line 3, in ?
import gnut, time, sys, math, host, os
ImportError: Bad magic number in gnut.pyc
Any ideas?
Not true at all...
It's very true. From Loki's page:
RAM
64 MB RAM minimum, 128 MB RAM recommended
512 MB combined RAM and swap required)
Actually, you're kind of right. No one had (been reported to have) died. But it still did have an effect on MANY people.
You can read about it if you want.
Seems as though (*MAYBE*) you stole your comment?
In the memo there is a pretty graph of the differnt flavors of "Open Source". They list "BSD-Style". The interesting there is that the "All Derivatives Must Be Free" column is not checked.
M$'s TCP/IP stack is directly from BSD.
Windows isn't "free".
Interesting...
I agree, I'm not saying any different. For HP to charge a grand for the same damn thing I can build for a few undred (and have 10X more usibility) is insane.
But, as been pointed out a billion times by posters already, this isn't targeted at people like "us" (geeks with too much time and ideas), it's for people that don't have a freakin' clue that this can be easily made for pretty cheap (and that have a hard time infront of an ATM machine...).
You should have actually READ the article before you spewed your BS:
what's in the box?
*HP digital entertainment center de100c with HomePNA card
*ethernet 10/100 baseT card, 56K v.90 modem
*remote control with 2 AAA batteries
*20 ft. phone cable, phone line splitter
*installation placemat and documentation
*6 ft. AC power cable, 6 ft. stereo and video cables
*3-pack HP digital audio music CD-R media (700 MB/80min)
And if that wasn't enough for you:
* the HP digital entertainment center works great with broadband, home networks, and dial-up Internet service providers
I don't know what you're smoking, but as of 7:07 EDT, it says 388...
The problem is that every widget is hand drawn instead of using the native OS widgets. So scrollbars, drop down boxes, etc. are all taking up rendering time.
/. who sees the simplicity of things...
LOGIC! My God! There's someone on
Thank you for posting this.
This is (some of) why I use Konqueror 98% of the time. It uses KDE's own wigets. Which not only provides a similarity to the rest of the "OS", it also boosts the hell out of render time.
Konqueror isn't perfect, however. I said 98%. That other 2% is dedicated to Mozilla. Theres just some things that Konqueor has a hard time with. Ever try to do a TV Guide search with Konqueror? It doesn't render the search page (almost) at all. I'm not sure why. I've looked at the source page to try to figure out why it doesn't render it right so I can send a fix (or at least a suggestion) to the KDE Team, but I have yet been able to see what's wrong.
Anyway...
Off my Soap-Box now...
Wil Weaton submits yeasterday: "You know, I don't have a huge problem with Katz, and I don't really understand why some people do." Today there a JonKatz post.
:-)
thanx Wil...
Now that's DAMN funny! Someone please mod this up a bit...
:-)
If Tom chooses to use somebody else's chipset, it's not AMD's fault when that chipset doesn't have support for powering the box down when it starts to overheat.
I'm not saying it's someone's "fault". I'm simply saying that AMD is great at making microwaves. This isn't a AMD vs. Intel thing. AMD definatly has the better idea, they just need to work on the chipset before I'd even consider one for a "production" box. As another AC points out:
Now, with a P4, the system throttles down so that it never shuts down. Instead, it just runs about 90% slower. I'd personally rather have it shut down rather than wonder what's going on with a slow machine.
Yup. The Intel proc does keep running. Even if it's half-assed, the Intel keeps running. Production boxen need to be up. If the thing's running that damn slow, even a brain-dead Admin will be able to figure something's wrong when the calls start coming in.
Oh, wait... the box is up. You can actually try to figure out what's wrong. Not "waltz" back to the Server Room to a dead box and wonder from there...
Geese, people...
This is utter bullshit. In the first clip, dude pyulls the fan off. OK. Well it cut away in about 2 seconds. What happened then? Most of that answer is obvious, the freakin' game died (and so did the box from the looks of it)
In the second clip, The game died and so did the box.
In the third clip, The game died and so did the box.
you get my point...
Tom's video is by far more realistic...
This is MAJOR miss-information (as far as I can tell). The only setup I can find is for POP/SMTP servers. Yes, I understand Exchange supports POP/SMTP, but it comes with the REAL secure thing known as clear text logins. I disabled POP and SMTP on my Exchange server years ago because of this.
Damn. I though for sure by now (11:00 am) there would be ISO's up on Gnutella.
Nothing...
Joan was quizzical
Studied patophysical science in the home
Late nights all alone with a test tube, Oh-oh-oh-oh
Maxwell Edison
Majoring in medicine calls her on the phone
Can I take you out to the pictures, Jo-o-o-oan?
But as she's getting ready to go a knock comes on the door
Bang Bang Maxwell's Silver Hammer came down upon her head
Clang Clang Maxwell's Silver Hammer made sure that she was dead
Back in school again
Maxwell plays the fool again, teacher gets annoyed
Wishing to avoid an unpleasant sce-e-e-ene She tells Max to stay
When the class has gone away, so he waits behind Writing fifty times I must not be so-o-o-o
But when she turns her back on the boy
He creeps up from behind
Bang Bang Maxwell's Silver Hammer came down upon her head
Clang Clang Maxwell's Silver Hammer made sure that she was dead
This AC has a point:
With the things that have been going on lately you shouldn't be bothered by this. Would you rather have someone sneaking something in they shouldn't or even sneaking something out that is dangerous. If you odn't like it quit and try and find a good job in these hard economic times that doesn't search you. Good look trying to find something outside of McDonalds.
~~~~~
:-)
some Rent-A-Cop rubbing my legs
You, uh, wouldn't happen to have pictures of that going on, would you? They're for a friend.
~~~~~
No, sorry. CCTV...
D00d, mellow out. Seriously.
I would rather be patted down on my way into work then have some lunitic making a bomb or some chemical for some crazy mission sitting next to me.
Yes, I understand that just some Rent-A-Cop rubbing my legs isn't going to stop the determined individual, but it certainly isn't a bad idea.
Yes, I'm sure it's VERY damn annoying (I can't speak from personal experience other than the gown-up procedures involed in going into a bio-medical clean room), but d00d, mellow out.
-1; Troll
Dude, get with the times. OK, fine. I've had this arguent with a Brit ICQ friend I've known for about 3 years now. He wonders why we dont spell "harbor" with the "U" (and similar), "I don't know" is my best answer.
My point was different people say different things and say those things, different ways. I do. Do you?
Yes, technically, I speak English. In reality, I speak American. It just so happens that American is mostly based on English (British). Hmmm... I wonder why.... (please don't go into the whole latin foundry of this language...)
Isn't it because it was the British colonized this country?
Nah, can't have anything to do with that...
Dialect.
You're forgeting one minor thing (or just unknowing)...
I'm origanily from the Mid-West (Chicago, USA). In the Mid-West "root" rhymes with "book"...
Just as "roof" rhymes with "book". Get over it. We all talk different. Welcome to Planet Earth...