That's what the RIAA people are saying right now. A free $15,000 bled from the people for a product that wouldn't have sold otherwise!
Sure, they spent way more than that on the lawyers, but it sets a precedent, so now it'll be easier to get others to cave in and not go to court (where they might actually win).
Can you tell me how this is different from a mafia boss sending "Vinnie" out to club people in the knees if they don't "pay up"?
Ohhhh, they were "stealing". Just like you when you drive down the street with that CD loud enough for me to hear on the sidewalk (Hey, *I* didn't buy it!). Hmmmm, get the RIAA to go after all the people with jacked-up stereos in their cars... maybe they aren't pure evil at that.
I went down the Best Buy the other day and picked one of these up to replace my venerable first-generation GeForce 3. It does seem just slightly faster (to be honest, my little Athalon 1600 is likely the main bottleneck), but it also has problems with texture mappings in some games that the GF3 handles fine (Shadowbane and Battlefield 1942).
I took it back, not enough improvement to warrent suffering through another round of software updates until all the kinks are worked out.
Why try to get every browser out there to be even MORE bloated when you can just setup a nice filter (like junkbuster... or its successor, privoxy) to go along with the squid cache you're already using?
Blocking ads at the browser level is just asking for more bloat, and more identical blacklists to maintain. It's treating the symptom, not the transmission agent (to treat the disease, we have to have laws like Virginia's anti-spam law).
to get us to throw out our ink-jet printers and upgrade to real laser printers. It's easier for the industry to sell things in larger chunks of money, so a $400 laser printer and a couple of $50 toner carts looks better than 4 $100 ink-jets and a handful of $30 carts.
I live in Michigan. Thanks to our super-DMCA law, which makes it a felony to conceal the source of any electronic transmission, we cannot have E-voting machines unless we give up anonymous votes.
"What's good enough for Granddad, is good enough for me. The way it was, that's the way it's got to be."
How about doing a study that would be useful for soemthing OTHER than downloading pr0n? Yes, Cable let's me download faster.. but how does the latency compare?
For interactive shells, or online games... bandwidth is meaningless. I have a cable modem with the usual 1.5Mbps downstream, 256Kbps upstream and while a download or two at 25Kbps isn't too noticable, even a trickle upload at 12Kbps seriously impacts latency, driving ping times up from an "idle" norm of 48ms to well over 100ms, with spikes in the 400's.
Given a choice, I'll always take lower latency in preference to higher bandwidth.
You know, I never really cared for the whole Games Workshop miniatures system line anyways. They had a few good games (Blood Bowl and Man 'O War come to mind), but they also fostered this elitist attitude amongst their patrons that if you didn't own ALL the minis, and have them ALL painted up perfectly, then you couldn't play the game.
Sorry, I didn't feel like spending thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours just so I could actually PLAY the game for a few hours a week. At least Mage Knight had the idea of selling pre-painted figures for those who don't have the time to spend preparing to play games, and would rather play them.
Now before everyone fires up their flamethrowers, *I* would have sold both pre-painted AND unfinished minis, since that way you can get both audiences (charge a little extra for the painted ones of course).
GW needs to remember why they exist. They started out publishing RPG rules (I still like the original Warhammer Fantasy Role-Playing book), and got into miniatures as a side-item to accentuate role-playing games. Now, they are firmly in the miniatures ARE the game role, but seem to think they invented the concept.
So go ahead GW, snob your way out of your own market. Someone will take your place, and they might just make something original again, the way you used to do back in the 90's.
electronic voting machines. Guess we'll be stuck with good old paper punch voting machines in Michigan, since it would be a felony to allow democratic voting practices via any electronic medium under the new law.
So, when are people going to recognize the RIAA/MPAA for what they really are... mafia thugs who send lawyers out with the legal equivalent of tommy guns to smack down anyone not working to ensure that they get their cut of everything?
Seriously, it's becoming more clear every year that the RIAA (and to a lesser degree, the MPAA) is becoming more obsolete and trivial. Now that the video game industry made more money than the recording and movie industry combined, how much more will it take to put them in their place?
IF the RIAA provided a real service to musicians these days, I'd be supporting them. I know several musicians, and they all hate the RIAA with a passion. If the people they're supposed to be representing can't stand to work with them, why do they still exist? More to the point, why do they get to abuse the legal system at the expense of everyone else except the lawyers?
Hint -- law suits won't bring back your CD sales guys.. in fact, it will just drive more people away. You already missed your chance to capture and sell the mp3 music trading concept... try coming up with the next big thing instead of clinging to old models that are doomed to eventual failure.
Think I'm just ranting? Well, I am... but if the RIAA took all the money they sunk into lawyers and put it into technology research IN THEIR FIELD, we'd probably have working crystal-storage by now. I mean, this is
from 2000, and this is also not new.
How many people would shell out YACHB (Yet-Another-Couple-Hundred-Bucks) for a small cartridge with the Beatles entire collection on it? Instead, we get the White Album, repackaged 12 times on the same CD media, and we're all guilty until proven innocent and have to deal with copy protection (which the thieves, BTW, just strip out and ignore).
...we used to do the same thing when they had the IBM PCjr demo machines at K-Mart. We'd grab an extra wireless keyboard and stand behind the people using the machine and "correct" their typing, much to their consternation.
Google is where they are today not just because they provide very accurate results, but because they have always held to a simple, cleancut interface.
Back in the late 90's, google's results were not much better than alta-vista, or lycos. They weren't usually worse, but the thing that made everyone want to use google was the fact that it loaded fast, and even in a text browser, looked clean and useful.
As they improved their system, collected more data, and generally laid the smack down on all the other search engines out there in terms of useful results and speed of returns, they kept the simple clean interface.
Oh yeah, M$ "could" afford to have no paid links or annoying ads... but does anyone here (given their track record, and the travesty that is MSN) believe for a second that it wouldn't be loaded to the gills with pop-ups, flashing spinning MS logos, and clippy offering "You searched for apache web-server, didn't you really mean Microsoft IIS server?"
Well, if my local video store would carry import games and DVD's **AND** Sony would allow me to play/view them without a mod chip, I wouldn't need one, would I?
Region codes don't make any sense if the product isn't even available in other regions... duh!
Just because all YOU could think of was pirated games, doesn't mean that's all they're good for.
Grow up, stop suckling off the party-line and digest your own FUD.
"Programmers today have no clue what programming was like back in the early days of the PC. The system had to boot in 64k"
Yeah, I miss those days. Back before everyone had to learn 500 different and conflicting standards for how to print to the screen... back when people used to optimize code instead of handwaving it and assuming the compiler would do ok and people will buy bigger machines before release date anyways... back when it actually WAS possible for a single human to fully understand and exploit the computer he was working on.
So, now that computers are 3000 times faster than they were when I started programming (1MHz C64 vs. 3.0GHz P4), why does it seem to take 3000 times as long to accomplish anything with them?
It doesn't count when you have Windows2000/XP set to auto-reboot instead of halting on the BSOD. Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it wasn't there.:)
$2500 USD a year for 24/7 tech support with a 1 hour response time is well worth it IF you're a business that is making lots of money, and thus has lots of customers, and cannot afford downtime.
$800 USD a year is worth it IFF you're a medium to large company which is doing well and has a good established client base. A little downtime is acceptable, but tech support is still vital so it's as minimal as possible.
$60 USD a year is the price they should sell Red Hat Linux at with up2date support, and perhaps a month of phone support to let new sysadmins call in with setup questions. This, almost anyone can afford, and it's a good bargin *IF* you get permenant access to errata.
I work for a startup company, we cannot afford the $800 price point for Enterprise Server, and we have competant people here who don't need phone support (well, once in a blue moon for things like PERCRAID3 controllers...), but without the up2date access... it's not worth $5.
Red Hat.... you are in a position that Bill Gates wishes he was in. You can afford to charge big money for all the support that costs you money to maintain, AND you can still collect peanuts from individuals who would like an easy-to-maintain system that isn't windows. Wise up!
Windows XP is something like $300 retail, and it will have a good 5 years of free online updates. That works out to about $50 a year plus $50 for the box. Multiply that by a few million home users, and that's the market you're ignoring.
Think about it... you already do the work to generate the errata, all you need to do is keep mirror sites up to date (most mirrors do this automatically), and keep your up2date network functioning.
My question is... defending us from what? Ourselves? The Future? What palpable threat is the US facing that justifies such an expenditure?
I'm certainly not begruding them a certain amount of money to keep a decent defensive army equpped and reasonably alert. I'm also in favor of spending more money on R&D, since keeping ahead in the arms race is essential -- and it slowly trickles down to the public sector anyways.
I just don't see why we have to go topple a dictator in Iraq for having "weapons of mass destruction", when we allow other nations to have them. Where are the cries to invade France, since they not only have nuclear weapons, but have tested them out in the ocean? Where are the cries to invade Ireland to quell the terrorist cells that have been bombing England for decades? Oh, that's different. They don't have huge oil reserves for us to liberate.
If you have a deep desire to spend money on something and don't want to give it away to the poor or elderly, how about doing some research into something useful beyond the next election? We know we're going to run out of space someday... how about terraforming? How about alternative energy sources? How about finding ways to preserve food long enough so it doesn't spoil before we can eat it?
If the federal government is going to do nothing but maintain a defensive military to protect us, then they have no NEED of 1/4 of my income, a mere 10% should be MORE than adequate.
Considering our recent history on the importance of "Freedom" (See: DMCA, Patriot Act, etc.) -- I'm sure OIL has nothing to do with our current military activities.
I'm curious. How many/. readers out there are authors (of those dead-tree things, not software)? How is this on-topic? Well, writing software for a living is similar to writing novels. There are some number of well-known big-money publishers out there, and there are a larger number of not-well-known shops which occasionally produce hits, and then thare are independants.
If you're an author, you can choose to:
(a) Write what you believe. If you choose this path, you will have to have a Real Job (TM) to pay for things like food and shelter. You may find that the amount of time and energy you have to write varies with your Job and Family influence. That means, you will be at it for many years before finishing anything, and get very little sleep.
(b) Write what will sell. Many authors take this route. Find a genre you kindof-like, look at the slop that's on the shelf, write something that feels much the same. Chances are, one of the middleweight publishers will buy it and sell it direct to the bargin bin. You're writing (good practice) and making enough money to pay for food OR shelter, so only a semi-decent Job (TM) is needed. Your Family might actually see you.
(c) Write what they tell you. This usually only happens once you've managed (a) or (b). You get hired or contracted by a Big Corporate Entity (TM) and they say "We need you to write a by next Quarter." In this mode, you write to whatever specs they give you and churn out a product which will be pushed into the market. It offers the distinction of being a Real Job (TM) all by itself, but as with any other Job, you have are bound by the Chains of Command, and have a Boss.
It seems to me that software development has also reached that place. It's usually impossible for a single person to break into the market, but if a small group gets together they have to face the three choices above. Let's face it... we ALL want to write the thing that's in our head. We're all sure it's really cool, and that other people would like it too (and maybe even pay for it). But we all also have to eat too, and have a place for our computers to stay in out of the rain.
Once upon a time, you used to be able to get a job by just going to the place you wanted to work and being persistant. Nowadays, that gets you thrown in jail for loitering and/or harassment. How do unknown game developers get a foot in the door these days?
> "So how will we deal with another society 17,597,088,000,000,000 miles away?"
>> "That's a plausable scenario and a good point. A signal lag time which represents most of the whole of human history is obviously not workable"
Ok, so I am NOT going to play Doom III against these guys with that kind of lag!
Missing the point guys...
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Everyone who's chiming in with "What about Amazon" is missing the point of having an independant database whose purpose is to collect and distribute information.
Amazon is only interested in marketing books so people will buy them. They aren't going to carry information about things they can't sell.
The Library of Congress will carry information about the book, but no commentary or reviews... and even they won't store data on books that may be centuries old, or only available outside the United States.
As far as legal concerns... remember that little principle called "Fair Use" that all the big companies want to take away from us? Printing a self-compiled catalog of book titles, even with small excerpts, should be covered under fair use. Reviews of said titles should be 1st amendment. Of course, IANAL.
...how's the ping time? Being on a semi-congested cable modem (with roommates who don't play online games, but do download), I seldom care about bandwidth... I'm usually griping about the 100 to 1000ms ping times that keep my awesome FPS skills in check.
In other words, when do we get the quantuum packet transfer?:)
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it takes some time to cram all those Ewoks into nazi uniforms. I'm sure the end result will be worth the effort.
That's what the RIAA people are saying right now. A free $15,000 bled from the people for a product that wouldn't have sold otherwise!
Sure, they spent way more than that on the lawyers, but it sets a precedent, so now it'll be easier to get others to cave in and not go to court (where they might actually win).
Can you tell me how this is different from a mafia boss sending "Vinnie" out to club people in the knees if they don't "pay up"?
Ohhhh, they were "stealing". Just like you when you drive down the street with that CD loud enough for me to hear on the sidewalk (Hey, *I* didn't buy it!). Hmmmm, get the RIAA to go after all the people with jacked-up stereos in their cars... maybe they aren't pure evil at that.
I went down the Best Buy the other day and picked one of these up to replace my venerable first-generation GeForce 3. It does seem just slightly faster (to be honest, my little Athalon 1600 is likely the main bottleneck), but it also has problems with texture mappings in some games that the GF3 handles fine (Shadowbane and Battlefield 1942).
I took it back, not enough improvement to warrent suffering through another round of software updates until all the kinks are worked out.
Why try to get every browser out there to be even MORE bloated when you can just setup a nice filter (like junkbuster... or its successor, privoxy) to go along with the squid cache you're already using?
Blocking ads at the browser level is just asking for more bloat, and more identical blacklists to maintain. It's treating the symptom, not the transmission agent (to treat the disease, we have to have laws like Virginia's anti-spam law).
to get us to throw out our ink-jet printers and upgrade to real laser printers. It's easier for the industry to sell things in larger chunks of money, so a $400 laser printer and a couple of $50 toner carts looks better than 4 $100 ink-jets and a handful of $30 carts.
I live in Michigan. Thanks to our super-DMCA law, which makes it a felony to conceal the source of any electronic transmission, we cannot have E-voting machines unless we give up anonymous votes.
"What's good enough for Granddad, is good enough for me. The way it was, that's the way it's got to be."
How about doing a study that would be useful for soemthing OTHER than downloading pr0n? Yes, Cable let's me download faster.. but how does the latency compare?
For interactive shells, or online games... bandwidth is meaningless. I have a cable modem with the usual 1.5Mbps downstream, 256Kbps upstream and while a download or two at 25Kbps isn't too noticable, even a trickle upload at 12Kbps seriously impacts latency, driving ping times up from an "idle" norm of 48ms to well over 100ms, with spikes in the 400's.
Given a choice, I'll always take lower latency in preference to higher bandwidth.
The pr0n industry is above the laws of physics! If you don't believe me, go to your local video store and note the DVDA section.
You know, I never really cared for the whole Games Workshop miniatures system line anyways. They had a few good games (Blood Bowl and Man 'O War come to mind), but they also fostered this elitist attitude amongst their patrons that if you didn't own ALL the minis, and have them ALL painted up perfectly, then you couldn't play the game.
Sorry, I didn't feel like spending thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours just so I could actually PLAY the game for a few hours a week. At least Mage Knight had the idea of selling pre-painted figures for those who don't have the time to spend preparing to play games, and would rather play them.
Now before everyone fires up their flamethrowers, *I* would have sold both pre-painted AND unfinished minis, since that way you can get both audiences (charge a little extra for the painted ones of course).
GW needs to remember why they exist. They started out publishing RPG rules (I still like the original Warhammer Fantasy Role-Playing book), and got into miniatures as a side-item to accentuate role-playing games. Now, they are firmly in the miniatures ARE the game role, but seem to think they invented the concept.
So go ahead GW, snob your way out of your own market. Someone will take your place, and they might just make something original again, the way you used to do back in the 90's.
electronic voting machines. Guess we'll be stuck with good old paper punch voting machines in Michigan, since it would be a felony to allow democratic voting practices via any electronic medium under the new law.
Give them the title they so richly deserve, BOFH.
Seriously, it's becoming more clear every year that the RIAA (and to a lesser degree, the MPAA) is becoming more obsolete and trivial. Now that the video game industry made more money than the recording and movie industry combined, how much more will it take to put them in their place?
IF the RIAA provided a real service to musicians these days, I'd be supporting them. I know several musicians, and they all hate the RIAA with a passion. If the people they're supposed to be representing can't stand to work with them, why do they still exist? More to the point, why do they get to abuse the legal system at the expense of everyone else except the lawyers?
Hint -- law suits won't bring back your CD sales guys.. in fact, it will just drive more people away. You already missed your chance to capture and sell the mp3 music trading concept... try coming up with the next big thing instead of clinging to old models that are doomed to eventual failure.
Think I'm just ranting? Well, I am... but if the RIAA took all the money they sunk into lawyers and put it into technology research IN THEIR FIELD, we'd probably have working crystal-storage by now. I mean, this is from 2000, and this is also not new.
How many people would shell out YACHB (Yet-Another-Couple-Hundred-Bucks) for a small cartridge with the Beatles entire collection on it? Instead, we get the White Album, repackaged 12 times on the same CD media, and we're all guilty until proven innocent and have to deal with copy protection (which the thieves, BTW, just strip out and ignore).
...we used to do the same thing when they had the IBM PCjr demo machines at K-Mart. We'd grab an extra wireless keyboard and stand behind the people using the machine and "correct" their typing, much to their consternation.
Ya'll musta forgot....
Google is where they are today not just because they provide very accurate results, but because they have always held to a simple, cleancut interface.
Back in the late 90's, google's results were not much better than alta-vista, or lycos. They weren't usually worse, but the thing that made everyone want to use google was the fact that it loaded fast, and even in a text browser, looked clean and useful.
As they improved their system, collected more data, and generally laid the smack down on all the other search engines out there in terms of useful results and speed of returns, they kept the simple clean interface.
Oh yeah, M$ "could" afford to have no paid links or annoying ads... but does anyone here (given their track record, and the travesty that is MSN) believe for a second that it wouldn't be loaded to the gills with pop-ups, flashing spinning MS logos, and clippy offering "You searched for apache web-server, didn't you really mean Microsoft IIS server?"
Just because I hate broken links...
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0156729
It does look pretty cool.
Well, if my local video store would carry import games and DVD's **AND** Sony would allow me to play/view them without a mod chip, I wouldn't need one, would I?
Region codes don't make any sense if the product isn't even available in other regions... duh!
Just because all YOU could think of was pirated games, doesn't mean that's all they're good for.
Grow up, stop suckling off the party-line and digest your own FUD.
"Programmers today have no clue what programming was like back in the early days of the PC. The system had to boot in 64k"
Yeah, I miss those days. Back before everyone had to learn 500 different and conflicting standards for how to print to the screen... back when people used to optimize code instead of handwaving it and assuming the compiler would do ok and people will buy bigger machines before release date anyways... back when it actually WAS possible for a single human to fully understand and exploit the computer he was working on.
So, now that computers are 3000 times faster than they were when I started programming (1MHz C64 vs. 3.0GHz P4), why does it seem to take 3000 times as long to accomplish anything with them?
It doesn't count when you have Windows2000/XP set to auto-reboot instead of halting on the BSOD. Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it wasn't there. :)
$2500 USD a year for 24/7 tech support with a 1 hour response time is well worth it IF you're a business that is making lots of money, and thus has lots of customers, and cannot afford downtime.
$800 USD a year is worth it IFF you're a medium to large company which is doing well and has a good established client base. A little downtime is acceptable, but tech support is still vital so it's as minimal as possible.
$60 USD a year is the price they should sell Red Hat Linux at with up2date support, and perhaps a month of phone support to let new sysadmins call in with setup questions. This, almost anyone can afford, and it's a good bargin *IF* you get permenant access to errata.
I work for a startup company, we cannot afford the $800 price point for Enterprise Server, and we have competant people here who don't need phone support (well, once in a blue moon for things like PERCRAID3 controllers...), but without the up2date access... it's not worth $5.
Red Hat.... you are in a position that Bill Gates wishes he was in. You can afford to charge big money for all the support that costs you money to maintain, AND you can still collect peanuts from individuals who would like an easy-to-maintain system that isn't windows. Wise up!
Windows XP is something like $300 retail, and it will have a good 5 years of free online updates. That works out to about $50 a year plus $50 for the box. Multiply that by a few million home users, and that's the market you're ignoring.
Think about it... you already do the work to generate the errata, all you need to do is keep mirror sites up to date (most mirrors do this automatically), and keep your up2date network functioning.
Ok, I've played D&D. Trolls like fire, right???
My question is... defending us from what? Ourselves? The Future? What palpable threat is the US facing that justifies such an expenditure?
I'm certainly not begruding them a certain amount of money to keep a decent defensive army equpped and reasonably alert. I'm also in favor of spending more money on R&D, since keeping ahead in the arms race is essential -- and it slowly trickles down to the public sector anyways.
I just don't see why we have to go topple a dictator in Iraq for having "weapons of mass destruction", when we allow other nations to have them. Where are the cries to invade France, since they not only have nuclear weapons, but have tested them out in the ocean? Where are the cries to invade Ireland to quell the terrorist cells that have been bombing England for decades? Oh, that's different. They don't have huge oil reserves for us to liberate.
If you have a deep desire to spend money on something and don't want to give it away to the poor or elderly, how about doing some research into something useful beyond the next election? We know we're going to run out of space someday... how about terraforming? How about alternative energy sources? How about finding ways to preserve food long enough so it doesn't spoil before we can eat it?
If the federal government is going to do nothing but maintain a defensive military to protect us, then they have no NEED of 1/4 of my income, a mere 10% should be MORE than adequate.
Considering our recent history on the importance of "Freedom" (See: DMCA, Patriot Act, etc.) -- I'm sure OIL has nothing to do with our current military activities.
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Would you like FREEDOM fries with that?
My scarecrow will finally have a brain... hooked up to an X10 controller and a beowulf cluster of shotguns!
I'm curious. How many /. readers out there are authors (of those dead-tree things, not software)? How is this on-topic? Well, writing software for a living is similar to writing novels. There are some number of well-known big-money publishers out there, and there are a larger number of not-well-known shops which occasionally produce hits, and then thare are independants.
If you're an author, you can choose to:
(a) Write what you believe. If you choose this path, you will have to have a Real Job (TM) to pay for things like food and shelter. You may find that the amount of time and energy you have to write varies with your Job and Family influence. That means, you will be at it for many years before finishing anything, and get very little sleep.
(b) Write what will sell. Many authors take this route. Find a genre you kindof-like, look at the slop that's on the shelf, write something that feels much the same. Chances are, one of the middleweight publishers will buy it and sell it direct to the bargin bin. You're writing (good practice) and making enough money to pay for food OR shelter, so only a semi-decent Job (TM) is needed. Your Family might actually see you.
(c) Write what they tell you. This usually only happens once you've managed (a) or (b). You get hired or contracted by a Big Corporate Entity (TM) and they say "We need you to write a by next Quarter." In this mode, you write to whatever specs they give you and churn out a product which will be pushed into the market. It offers the distinction of being a Real Job (TM) all by itself, but as with any other Job, you have are bound by the Chains of Command, and have a Boss.
It seems to me that software development has also reached that place. It's usually impossible for a single person to break into the market, but if a small group gets together they have to face the three choices above. Let's face it... we ALL want to write the thing that's in our head. We're all sure it's really cool, and that other people would like it too (and maybe even pay for it). But we all also have to eat too, and have a place for our computers to stay in out of the rain.
Once upon a time, you used to be able to get a job by just going to the place you wanted to work and being persistant. Nowadays, that gets you thrown in jail for loitering and/or harassment. How do unknown game developers get a foot in the door these days?
WWJC?
> "So how will we deal with another society 17,597,088,000,000,000 miles away?"
>> "That's a plausable scenario and a good point. A signal lag time which represents most of the whole of human history is obviously not workable"
Ok, so I am NOT going to play Doom III against these guys with that kind of lag!
Everyone who's chiming in with "What about Amazon" is missing the point of having an independant database whose purpose is to collect and distribute information.
Amazon is only interested in marketing books so people will buy them. They aren't going to carry information about things they can't sell.
The Library of Congress will carry information about the book, but no commentary or reviews... and even they won't store data on books that may be centuries old, or only available outside the United States.
As far as legal concerns... remember that little principle called "Fair Use" that all the big companies want to take away from us? Printing a self-compiled catalog of book titles, even with small excerpts, should be covered under fair use. Reviews of said titles should be 1st amendment. Of course, IANAL.
This is a great idea!
...how's the ping time? Being on a semi-congested cable modem (with roommates who don't play online games, but do download), I seldom care about bandwidth... I'm usually griping about the 100 to 1000ms ping times that keep my awesome FPS skills in check.
:)
In other words, when do we get the quantuum packet transfer?