Funny, I think the intolerance is rational. I suppose it could be argued it is as rational as intolerance of the intolerance via modding, thus making both our points moot.
I'll bet the Muslims have a similiar verse about Allah. And we call them foolish martyrs. Who's foolish? You or them - or the Buddhists or any other religion who has this protectionist falsity in their teachings? If your faith was elsewhere you would justify it the same and still believe you'd show all of us sinners in the end. God exists only in your mind and is only as helpful as your faith in him/her/it, whether my faith is in Allah, Buddha, or Jesus Christ - they all represent the same thing - the hope of some grand entity giving us our just due in the end. As humans we need hope, in the abscence of truth, we make it up. Unfortunately for you sir you are chasing a fallacy that even the pope can't sort out. Consider the pope's endorsement of evolution and the reversal of the teachings of Ptolemy by the church. The teachings of the church are just working answers until we find proof to contridict. Unfortunately another fallacy of the church is to challenge the "sinners" to prove them wrong - that's like you proving I didn't have sex with the olsen twins last night. It's not likely, but you can't prove it didn't happen.
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Good thing it's a fairytale like everything else in the book. Use your head, this book was written before we were insightful enough to realize the sun was the center of the solar system. What makes you think this stupid book has a sliver of understanding of the ingenious architect that built the universe? Think! For yourself.
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Ok, as I read these posts, everyone responding unfavorably to organized religion or christianity have been mooded troll/flaimbait ~ what happened to turning the other cheek? I guess the truth does hurt.
Am I the only one who finds it surprisingly fitting for a christian website to be called "Ship of Fools"? Right, a whole bunch of fools in the same boat. My thoughts EXACTLY. Damn fools, you're ship's sinking as the population grows wiser - let us all remember what Napolean said: "Religion is the only thing keeping the poor from murdering the rich." In other words, you guys are what is keeping big business and pharma companies in charge. Put your efforts behind a change or a culture we ALL can get behind.
Yes, he is overreacting. You will not get the world to bend to your idiologies. Simply use OpenOffice. I really don't understand the point of crying over.doc(s). As an IT director, I have learned not to try to press my views on customers/business associates. You learn to adapt. There are perfectly suitable software suites available to handle.doc(s) without using a MS app. Get over it, the sheep will come home in good time. Just be prepared to offer a hand during their transition. Make a point of illustrating the advantages of the alternatives whenever the subject of the shortcomings of Microsoft Office comes up, and don't preach - noone likes that.
All those that use computers are not geeks. Consider the fact that they are just trying to distribute their content in the medium most convienent. Seriously. Otherwise you come across like a mormon knocking on their door to tell them about Jesus. Who answers that door?
I wish we could redistibute mod points. This statement: TV as an activity is OK. TV as a lifestyle is horrible. alone makes it more insightful than the parent.
Our Grandfathers started this shit while grandma was baking pies. I know my grandfather owned a TV Repair shop back in the day, but my Grandma could barely turn the channel.
I love that, liberal distortion. Kinda like when ol' Bill O'Reilly says liberals want us to lose the war on terrorism because they vote against the Patriot Act. Don't get me wrong, there are crazies on both sides, but if you ever listen *objectively* to conservative radio, you would never consider what the liberals do as distortion. Let us consider some of the finer comments from our favorite drug addict conservative. Rush claims that not only are there more native Americans today than before the manifest destiny, he even claimed styrofoam was biodegrable.
And for gods sake Bush, it is not "The Almighty's" intention for us to invade Iraq, to bring freedom - quit invoking God. Talk about distortion. There is no substance, so I will say "God" and the mindless will say "We gotta, cause God Said".
Please, just look at things objectively with everyone's good in mind and you will see where the distortion lies.
In response to your sig; [great conversation piece BTW]
You are absolutely correct. I guess they only give mod points to Zionist Bushites. Every single time I post a religious comment on slashdot, it is modded as a troll/flamebait - and here's why~
God is your own personal thing and no policy should ever be based on the word of God. I find it particularly ironic that Islamic fundamentalists are being fought with an Army (of which I am a veteran) led by a Christian fundamentalist with a Zionist leaning. If we keep it up, "God" will kill us all.
Face it. Instead of what would Jesus do, ask "What the fuck has Jesus done?" besides become a martyr. Hmmm, aren't we killing those pesky martyrs now? I guess the Jews HAVE been doing it for years. First Jesus, now the Palestinians. Of course it is OK to kill the unwashed who get in the way of their Zionist agenda. Then we got those perfect Christians gassing Jews by the millions. You'd figure if God was anywhere near any of this, he would see all of these idiots blowing themselves up, building walls, assassinating cripples and decide this faith bullshit is just that bullshit. Think about it, if God just showed up one afternoon, made a 30 second speech, this shit would be all over. There would be no more religious wars or the like, we would all be one unified faith living in peace. Well, since that hasn't happened, I guess we'll have to all renounce religion and become peaceful without it ~ makes more sense anyway.
Flame on bitches, I say fuck you and your sheepish mentality. A wise governor of Minnesota once made the insightful remark: Religion is a crutch for the weak. You, mister "Let's argue through mod points", are the weak.
Well, I guess the person who modded you as flamebait has never experienced the click of death in an Iomega Zip drive or had the glorious responsibility of managing one of their flakey Win 2000 NAS products. Iomega sucks indeed. Please, less marketing, more quality.
Do you realize that with their NAS products it is impossible to do a bare metal recovery? Either you have to reset it in their management console, or order a new harddrive and rebuild for 8 hours.
I would NEVER trust these guys with important data.
Even a true or false question offers a question with options. A blank command line does neither. Even knowing to type man and a command requires a. To know that there is a `man' command b. To know which command to even bother looking up.
Then expecting a n00b to dicipher a man page is a leap. I also have never seen an icon or have I even seen anyone make a shortcut to the "format c:/u/s" command - your argument is not representative of typical usage. Also, icons are generally easy to associate visually with an application - if not, you run it and see what comes up. As a general rule, most applications will not mess with your data just by loading them up and MOST applications will not negatively affect your hardware - thus poking around is good.
Also, you imply there are 'wrong' choices, when in fact, there is not really a 'wrong' choice per se, just not the specific function you're looking for. If this is the case, you choose one of the other choices and move forward. Now you know what that other function does for when you do need it and have also completed what you set out to do. Not likely to get the same quick understanding on cl.
The main benefit of a gui is the flattening of the learning curve. It is not as efficient as knowing exactly what you want to do at the cl - this is true, but gets you to a point to where you can be somewhat productive. Obviously being adept at the cl will make you more efficient.
Naw, it's even more simple than that. It is about choices. Staring at a blank command-line offers no intuitive options. You have no idea where to start as a n00b. Basically a graphical interface enables a user, without prior experience, to poke around and discover - simply by exploring all options.
What is easier - a multiple choice test, or a fill in the blank test?
Yeah, the great unwashed are up in arms about SCO trying to hijack our OS, but fuck with our porn and they all will be lined up along the walls. I guess they missed Real Time when Ol' Bill pointed out terrorism is probably the result of sexually frustrated Arabs. Could you imagine what would happen to SCO if we didn't have porn for our release? I would feel sorry for Utah and Asskraft.
Those that think Java sux are probably using it for applets and such. As a developer in a Java environment, I believe your points about java on the web - for mass consumption - are correct. The way we implement java is as a cross platform application, which would be difficult to implement in another language. Our application has to be able to talk to windows, Solaris, and Linux - it would be murder to do in another language without serious hoop jumping, as it stands I can build a cross platform installer that comes packaged with our own custom vm without interaction from the user other than the installation dialogue a user is accustomed to with any application installation. This leads me to believe Java has real value if implemented correctly - the option to build applets is just the icing on the cake and not representative of the full capabilities of Java. Use it for real work and not cute web thingies and you will see how cool Java is. As far as not being open source, it really is not that big of deal except for ideological reasons - Java is supported by their own community in a very efficient way. Don't be so quick to judge based on one pain in the ass implementation. Java IS the future.
Nice in may? Shit, it's pretty sweet now. Yeah, at first it was clunky, but once easy urpmi [http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php] updated, I was in business. I use redhat at work and mandrake for my daughter's and I's desktop and am very impressed. I especially love the "what to do menu" so my 8 yr old can just go there, see the choices, and run the app. I KNOW redhat, so it is great for using as a server where all you need is remote access, but mandrake is simply sweet when it comes to setting up a desktop. Anyone out here bashing Mandrake hasn't given it a try. I have everything I need on install (aside from apollon & giFT, which I simply `urpmi apollon' `urpmi giFT' and it's installed) No messing with fstab for my fat32 media partition, k3b is ready to go without jumping through hoops - in my opinion simply the best version of desktop linux. I will confess I haven't installed SUSE, so I may not be able to compare completely. The real confirmation is when I burned about 10 copies for the engineers at work, let 'em at it, and they came back with smiles. The only thing I have seen that was a minor annoyance was having to boot to disk 2 on install, then switch to disk 1 - but that isn't for every cdrom drive. Good for Mandrake.
Having served for daddy Bush in Gulf War light (tm), I have a GREAT interest in what other countries think of us. Cosidering the effort required to kill 3000 people in NY, I have a great interest in what other countries think of us. Considering that traveling abroad as an American could mean your death at worst and being despised as the average reaction, I have a great interest in what other countries think of us. It really bothers me that anyone would believe it is irrelevant what other countries think of us. It blows my mind how someone could miss that as a global community, there is great value in doing what is right for the whole - especially when it isn't only Americans that die because of our selfish policies, but 100,000s of others that do want to be our friends. We don't. We do what is right for us (US) and Israel [because Zionist Christians have the largest religous lobby in America - i.e Bush gets paid for it]. Everyone else we are kind to as long as we get something back (oil for our suvs, which is great for the enviroment).
It also appals me to believe that there are those that believe Bush is catering to the enviromentalist -> read here for starters: http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/
Our conversation has been non-hostile and that is great considering the polarisation of our views, but I cannot help but point out it seems as if you are missing the larger picture. Maybe it is because I have children that I am more worried about the future - I don't know. I just wish we could sit everyone down and discuss these issues openly. We need to educate those that will just swallow what they are told by the political marketing machines - explaining the impact of our policies. There are many people out there who are just looking at the surface, thinking about today. I could go on and on, but then it I would bore you. I also can't help but think I have been trolled.
As far as the small businesses go, the statistic shown was 60% of small businesses have ten employees or less and average a PROFIT of around 65,000. This is what I am basing my assertion on. Your business obviously wouldn't fall into that category. Total revenue is not what you are taxed on as well. Also, as I indicated, it is not really Bush's economic policies I have a problem with, it is his foreign affairs and enviromental policies. I realize economics is too long term to pin on any one president and all would do well to share the blame. Unfortunately, our government is double edged - If you allow an administration to stay around long enough to affect real change, you create a good ol' boy network [ala congress], by cycling our leaders so often, we lean towards short term success, and suffer long term [ala enviroment/foreign affairs]
I guess I should have left out the whole unemployment comment. I strongly disagree with your assertion Reagan was responsible for creating the dot boom - other than reducing the protections that created the dot bust. He is responsible for the S & L crisis, and a huge explosion in national debt. It may be argued by many on the left that Reagan's supply side economics was to blame, but it is essentially policies that allow corp.s to manipiultate the system. I have a problem with one size fits all policies for businesses. When a small business gets tax breaks [such as those that Kerry & Bush support], it allows stability, growth and prosperity for that business. When the same protections and breaks are given to a large corporation [Such as Bush supports], it allows greed to propagate out of control. I use the analogy between eating healthy and gluttony. We don't give food subsidies to those that have plenty to eat, but we may drop off food to an impoverished family. There is a line when that stops and there should be one for corporate welfare. Of course Bush points out the benefits to small businesses - those are the ones that DO benefit, but large corporations are allowed the same benefits even though they can sustain themselves. Bush likes to say that Kerry is going to hurt small businesses by rolling back the tax cuts, but the fact of the matter is, most small businesses will not be affected. The rolled back tax cuts will affect salaries over 200,000 - this isn't most mom & pop stores.
All this to say "eh" - this is truly secondary in importance to Bush's foriegn policy. Zionism is the re-establishment of a Jewish state in Israel by creating a Jewish majority. This means displacing arabs/Palestinians and seizing lands wholesale. It is US backed terrorism - no matter how you look at it. One just needs to look at the very facts that are presented, not ones from a biased media outlet. Israel seems to revel in its Zionist policies with the US right there in the middle, providing weapons and Billions of dollars in aid as well as lopsided political support. This is what we should really be concerned about.
Just look up Zionism on wikipedia for a definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism Then google for Zionism to see the deaths and the results of the "Transfer" arab peoples. Heres a good link to start with: http://www.wrmea.com/html/focus.htm No wonder everyone hates us and Israel.
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Funny, I think the intolerance is rational. I suppose it could be argued it is as rational as intolerance of the intolerance via modding, thus making both our points moot.
I'll bet the Muslims have a similiar verse about Allah. And we call them foolish martyrs. Who's foolish? You or them - or the Buddhists or any other religion who has this protectionist falsity in their teachings? If your faith was elsewhere you would justify it the same and still believe you'd show all of us sinners in the end. God exists only in your mind and is only as helpful as your faith in him/her/it, whether my faith is in Allah, Buddha, or Jesus Christ - they all represent the same thing - the hope of some grand entity giving us our just due in the end. As humans we need hope, in the abscence of truth, we make it up. Unfortunately for you sir you are chasing a fallacy that even the pope can't sort out. Consider the pope's endorsement of evolution and the reversal of the teachings of Ptolemy by the church. The teachings of the church are just working answers until we find proof to contridict. Unfortunately another fallacy of the church is to challenge the "sinners" to prove them wrong - that's like you proving I didn't have sex with the olsen twins last night. It's not likely, but you can't prove it didn't happen.
Good thing it's a fairytale like everything else in the book. Use your head, this book was written before we were insightful enough to realize the sun was the center of the solar system. What makes you think this stupid book has a sliver of understanding of the ingenious architect that built the universe? Think! For yourself.
Ok, as I read these posts, everyone responding unfavorably to organized religion or christianity have been mooded troll/flaimbait ~ what happened to turning the other cheek? I guess the truth does hurt.
Am I the only one who finds it surprisingly fitting for a christian website to be called "Ship of Fools"? Right, a whole bunch of fools in the same boat. My thoughts EXACTLY. Damn fools, you're ship's sinking as the population grows wiser - let us all remember what Napolean said: "Religion is the only thing keeping the poor from murdering the rich." In other words, you guys are what is keeping big business and pharma companies in charge. Put your efforts behind a change or a culture we ALL can get behind.
Yes, he is overreacting. You will not get the world to bend to your idiologies. Simply use OpenOffice. I really don't understand the point of crying over .doc(s). As an IT director, I have learned not to try to press my views on customers/business associates. You learn to adapt. There are perfectly suitable software suites available to handle .doc(s) without using a MS app. Get over it, the sheep will come home in good time. Just be prepared to offer a hand during their transition. Make a point of illustrating the advantages of the alternatives whenever the subject of the shortcomings of Microsoft Office comes up, and don't preach - noone likes that.
All those that use computers are not geeks. Consider the fact that they are just trying to distribute their content in the medium most convienent. Seriously. Otherwise you come across like a mormon knocking on their door to tell them about Jesus. Who answers that door?
I wish we could redistibute mod points. This statement: TV as an activity is OK. TV as a lifestyle is horrible. alone makes it more insightful than the parent.
Our Grandfathers started this shit while grandma was baking pies. I know my grandfather owned a TV Repair shop back in the day, but my Grandma could barely turn the channel.
So it's ageism and sexism - and basically true.
I love that, liberal distortion. Kinda like when ol' Bill O'Reilly says liberals want us to lose the war on terrorism because they vote against the Patriot Act. Don't get me wrong, there are crazies on both sides, but if you ever listen *objectively* to conservative radio, you would never consider what the liberals do as distortion. Let us consider some of the finer comments from our favorite drug addict conservative. Rush claims that not only are there more native Americans today than before the manifest destiny, he even claimed styrofoam was biodegrable.
And for gods sake Bush, it is not "The Almighty's" intention for us to invade Iraq, to bring freedom - quit invoking God. Talk about distortion. There is no substance, so I will say "God" and the mindless will say "We gotta, cause God Said".
Please, just look at things objectively with everyone's good in mind and you will see where the distortion lies.
In response to your sig; [great conversation piece BTW]
You are absolutely correct. I guess they only give mod points to Zionist Bushites. Every single time I post a religious comment on slashdot, it is modded as a troll/flamebait - and here's why~
God is your own personal thing and no policy should ever be based on the word of God. I find it particularly ironic that Islamic fundamentalists are being fought with an Army (of which I am a veteran) led by a Christian fundamentalist with a Zionist leaning. If we keep it up, "God" will kill us all.
Face it. Instead of what would Jesus do, ask "What the fuck has Jesus done?" besides become a martyr. Hmmm, aren't we killing those pesky martyrs now? I guess the Jews HAVE been doing it for years. First Jesus, now the Palestinians. Of course it is OK to kill the unwashed who get in the way of their Zionist agenda. Then we got those perfect Christians gassing Jews by the millions. You'd figure if God was anywhere near any of this, he would see all of these idiots blowing themselves up, building walls, assassinating cripples and decide this faith bullshit is just that bullshit. Think about it, if God just showed up one afternoon, made a 30 second speech, this shit would be all over. There would be no more religious wars or the like, we would all be one unified faith living in peace. Well, since that hasn't happened, I guess we'll have to all renounce religion and become peaceful without it ~ makes more sense anyway.
Flame on bitches, I say fuck you and your sheepish mentality. A wise governor of Minnesota once made the insightful remark: Religion is a crutch for the weak. You, mister "Let's argue through mod points", are the weak.
Oh! Here in the city it is: BBHMM
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Bitch Better Have My Money
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Well, I guess the person who modded you as flamebait has never experienced the click of death in an Iomega Zip drive or had the glorious responsibility of managing one of their flakey Win 2000 NAS products. Iomega sucks indeed. Please, less marketing, more quality.
Do you realize that with their NAS products it is impossible to do a bare metal recovery? Either you have to reset it in their management console, or order a new harddrive and rebuild for 8 hours.
I would NEVER trust these guys with important data.
Even a true or false question offers a question with options. A blank command line does neither. Even knowing to type man and a command requires
/u/s" command - your argument is not representative of typical usage. Also, icons are generally easy to associate visually with an application - if not, you run it and see what comes up. As a general rule, most applications will not mess with your data just by loading them up and MOST applications will not negatively affect your hardware - thus poking around is good.
a. To know that there is a `man' command
b. To know which command to even bother looking up.
Then expecting a n00b to dicipher a man page is a leap. I also have never seen an icon or have I even seen anyone make a shortcut to the "format c:
Also, you imply there are 'wrong' choices, when in fact, there is not really a 'wrong' choice per se, just not the specific function you're looking for. If this is the case, you choose one of the other choices and move forward. Now you know what that other function does for when you do need it and have also completed what you set out to do. Not likely to get the same quick understanding on cl.
The main benefit of a gui is the flattening of the learning curve. It is not as efficient as knowing exactly what you want to do at the cl - this is true, but gets you to a point to where you can be somewhat productive. Obviously being adept at the cl will make you more efficient.
Naw, it's even more simple than that. It is about choices. Staring at a blank command-line offers no intuitive options. You have no idea where to start as a n00b. Basically a graphical interface enables a user, without prior experience, to poke around and discover - simply by exploring all options.
What is easier - a multiple choice test, or a fill in the blank test?
I think Mandrake coming out of bankruptcy is one of many examples that dispel that myth.
Yeah, the great unwashed are up in arms about SCO trying to hijack our OS, but fuck with our porn and they all will be lined up along the walls. I guess they missed Real Time when Ol' Bill pointed out terrorism is probably the result of sexually frustrated Arabs. Could you imagine what would happen to SCO if we didn't have porn for our release? I would feel sorry for Utah and Asskraft.
Those that think Java sux are probably using it for applets and such. As a developer in a Java environment, I believe your points about java on the web - for mass consumption - are correct. The way we implement java is as a cross platform application, which would be difficult to implement in another language. Our application has to be able to talk to windows, Solaris, and Linux - it would be murder to do in another language without serious hoop jumping, as it stands I can build a cross platform installer that comes packaged with our own custom vm without interaction from the user other than the installation dialogue a user is accustomed to with any application installation. This leads me to believe Java has real value if implemented correctly - the option to build applets is just the icing on the cake and not representative of the full capabilities of Java. Use it for real work and not cute web thingies and you will see how cool Java is. As far as not being open source, it really is not that big of deal except for ideological reasons - Java is supported by their own community in a very efficient way. Don't be so quick to judge based on one pain in the ass implementation. Java IS the future.
Yeah, like all of those chicks @ Niagra Falls that seemed to be dating every loser that goes on vacation there.
This is slashdot, not the world!;-)
But point was - I am using 10 right now - with the 2.6 kernel and KDE 3.2.
You're right, `cause giving a damn about the environment is so lame.
Nice in may? Shit, it's pretty sweet now. Yeah, at first it was clunky, but once easy urpmi [http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php] updated, I was in business. I use redhat at work and mandrake for my daughter's and I's desktop and am very impressed. I especially love the "what to do menu" so my 8 yr old can just go there, see the choices, and run the app. I KNOW redhat, so it is great for using as a server where all you need is remote access, but mandrake is simply sweet when it comes to setting up a desktop. Anyone out here bashing Mandrake hasn't given it a try. I have everything I need on install (aside from apollon & giFT, which I simply `urpmi apollon' `urpmi giFT' and it's installed) No messing with fstab for my fat32 media partition, k3b is ready to go without jumping through hoops - in my opinion simply the best version of desktop linux. I will confess I haven't installed SUSE, so I may not be able to compare completely. The real confirmation is when I burned about 10 copies for the engineers at work, let 'em at it, and they came back with smiles. The only thing I have seen that was a minor annoyance was having to boot to disk 2 on install, then switch to disk 1 - but that isn't for every cdrom drive. Good for Mandrake.
Having served for daddy Bush in Gulf War light (tm), I have a GREAT interest in what other countries think of us. Cosidering the effort required to kill 3000 people in NY, I have a great interest in what other countries think of us. Considering that traveling abroad as an American could mean your death at worst and being despised as the average reaction, I have a great interest in what other countries think of us. It really bothers me that anyone would believe it is irrelevant what other countries think of us. It blows my mind how someone could miss that as a global community, there is great value in doing what is right for the whole - especially when it isn't only Americans that die because of our selfish policies, but 100,000s of others that do want to be our friends. We don't. We do what is right for us (US) and Israel [because Zionist Christians have the largest religous lobby in America - i.e Bush gets paid for it]. Everyone else we are kind to as long as we get something back (oil for our suvs, which is great for the enviroment).
It also appals me to believe that there are those that believe Bush is catering to the enviromentalist -> read here for starters:
http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/
Our conversation has been non-hostile and that is great considering the polarisation of our views, but I cannot help but point out it seems as if you are missing the larger picture. Maybe it is because I have children that I am more worried about the future - I don't know. I just wish we could sit everyone down and discuss these issues openly. We need to educate those that will just swallow what they are told by the political marketing machines - explaining the impact of our policies. There are many people out there who are just looking at the surface, thinking about today. I could go on and on, but then it I would bore you. I also can't help but think I have been trolled.
As far as the small businesses go, the statistic shown was 60% of small businesses have ten employees or less and average a PROFIT of around 65,000. This is what I am basing my assertion on. Your business obviously wouldn't fall into that category. Total revenue is not what you are taxed on as well. Also, as I indicated, it is not really Bush's economic policies I have a problem with, it is his foreign affairs and enviromental policies. I realize economics is too long term to pin on any one president and all would do well to share the blame. Unfortunately, our government is double edged - If you allow an administration to stay around long enough to affect real change, you create a good ol' boy network [ala congress], by cycling our leaders so often, we lean towards short term success, and suffer long term [ala enviroment/foreign affairs]
I guess I should have left out the whole unemployment comment. I strongly disagree with your assertion Reagan was responsible for creating the dot boom - other than reducing the protections that created the dot bust. He is responsible for the S & L crisis, and a huge explosion in national debt. It may be argued by many on the left that Reagan's supply side economics was to blame, but it is essentially policies that allow corp.s to manipiultate the system. I have a problem with one size fits all policies for businesses. When a small business gets tax breaks [such as those that Kerry & Bush support], it allows stability, growth and prosperity for that business. When the same protections and breaks are given to a large corporation [Such as Bush supports], it allows greed to propagate out of control. I use the analogy between eating healthy and gluttony. We don't give food subsidies to those that have plenty to eat, but we may drop off food to an impoverished family. There is a line when that stops and there should be one for corporate welfare. Of course Bush points out the benefits to small businesses - those are the ones that DO benefit, but large corporations are allowed the same benefits even though they can sustain themselves. Bush likes to say that Kerry is going to hurt small businesses by rolling back the tax cuts, but the fact of the matter is, most small businesses will not be affected. The rolled back tax cuts will affect salaries over 200,000 - this isn't most mom & pop stores.
All this to say "eh" - this is truly secondary in importance to Bush's foriegn policy. Zionism is the re-establishment of a Jewish state in Israel by creating a Jewish majority. This means displacing arabs/Palestinians and seizing lands wholesale. It is US backed terrorism - no matter how you look at it. One just needs to look at the very facts that are presented, not ones from a biased media outlet. Israel seems to revel in its Zionist policies with the US right there in the middle, providing weapons and Billions of dollars in aid as well as lopsided political support. This is what we should really be concerned about.
Just look up Zionism on wikipedia for a definition:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
Then google for Zionism to see the deaths and the results of the "Transfer" arab peoples. Heres a good link to start with:
http://www.wrmea.com/html/focus.htm
No wonder everyone hates us and Israel.