I'd not before seen "Fab" used for fabricating plant, but I did know the "fab" as a sort of 3-d fax machine that re-creates solid objects (in shape anyway). It laser-scans the original, and creates a solid copy (corn starch?) at the receiving end.
The item title gave me visions of a new breed of cell phone that could spew solid objects.
The "source code", so to speak, for the Model T is out there, and Ford will not sue you for making or modifying Model T parts.
It is not unfair that Ford does not support the Model T, but it might be if they did what they are not doing: prevent the Model T devotees from "supporting" their cars.
"And if you were running a Red Hat distro that was 7 years old, Red Hat would have stopped supporting it 4 years ago"....and someone would have fixed this hole 6 years ago.
"You need to make people pay for what they get, even if it is a big markdown over new books."
No need to make anyone pay; I want to make it easier for the people to take the reading material! I've got boxes and boxes of books and magazines (mostly history-related) that I've had trouble giving away.
"and since these books are a finite resource, they will be quickly snapped up (especially the ones worth reading)."
As finite as grains of sand on the beach, I wonder? It seems to me that there are more and more new books all the time, and the older ones are not being destroyed that fast.
"Every user will have more incentive to take from the system than to give"...unless you are trying to get rid of too many books.
"Allow me to introduce myself. I am H.M. Wogglebug, T.E. I will immediately commence to deliver my report. Mind you, some of the tidings therein are bad...."
10. My program died. I have stapled an explanation to the install diskette and it is in the mail.
9. I submitted my e-mail address to a dubious web site, and now I get spam. Could you get them to stop? It is your fault: I found the page in your browser.
7. It happened when I hit one of the keys in one of the screens and I saw a message that said something appear. I think it was that version with the 1 in the name. It might have been Mozilla or Opera, don't ask me.
6. Every time I click on the monkey to win $10,000, I never get anything. Could you add a feature in your future version that makes sure that clicks hit the right monkey?
5. The word "Ayatollah" was not spelled right in one of your web pages, www.cnn.com. Please fix immediately.
4. Mothra is attacking!!!!
3. My el33t boxen broke da bugz. 2 u now.
2. Author Stephen King dead at 54
1. My preying mantis is not housebroken, no matter how much I do. What is there to do besides scold him with "Bad bug! Bad bug!"
>I'm surprised that noone has mentioned the Empeg >(later bought out by Sonic blue and called "Rio >Car" mp3 player."
What about the RIAA Car mp3 player? Use of it requires use of a hardware key (yes a key like you put in your apartment door) personally handed to you by Hillary Rosens. It requires that you purchase the original songs on CD, Secure CD, 8-Track, Dat, Cassette, and Edison Wax Cylinder (tm) formats.
When all is said and done, the only thing you can listen to is 10 seconds of Metallica's "Unforgiven", and that only when Lars Ulrich is sitting in the passenger seat next to you.
"At least this time, Apple isn't frivolously wielding the DMCA against the makers of such software; the company has only requested that third-party software publishers not infringe Apple trademarks"
Instead they have other methods of legal oppression they were using years before the DMCA ever was a twinkle in Big Brother's eye. From suing other companies for stealing GUI from the same source Apple stole it from to harassing companies on what their machine case looked like.
The Apple legal department's creativity rivals the creativity of their developers.
>In order to be allowed to run AmigaOS, any >third party hardware vendor is supposed to >buy a license from Amiga Inc for both >himself and his hardware, he must modify >his hardware with license verification >measures (Amiga Inc. uses a nonsensical >"anti-piracy" argument for this),
It would be suicide, but the Amiga company is so irrelevant you might as well say it is already dead.
Didn't Texas Instruments do this with their TI 99 4/A? You had to buy a license to make stuff for it. Such a policy ensured that no one made anything for it.
What other serious decisions mistakes is Amiga making that will make sure that there is no Amiga renaissance? I wonder if Jack Tramiel and Neil Harass are back at the helm here.
There is a lesson to be learned: open systems are the ones that survive.
It is bad when the US censors expression. But we do, so this is somewhat hypocritical of the US to complain. However, there is every reason to complain about Thailand's censorship of this advertising, and no reason to support it.
"The U.S. suppliers cried foul and had the WTO and IMF step in to pressure them to revoke the decision."
This is a good example of the WTO and IMF stepping in and stopping a government from denying people basic rights of free speech.
"Are you saying then that Thailand had the right to initiate bombing raids on the U.S. to destroy tobacco fields?"
If Thailand outright bans tobacco, and the US still makes great effort to send it there illegal, yes. But as long as it is legal (approved by the Thailand government) there is no reason.
10. Bill's wallet is a little heavy. What better to do than leave a couple of billion at the Sourceforge booth?
9. Steve Ballmer has a pengiun fetish. It's just not the same since "Bloom County" was cancelled. Time to get another fix.
8. They think it is a Microsoft expo to which some Linux folks have been invited.
7. Microsoft loves trekkies. Going to be a lot of them there at any Linux event.
6. Its like "A Christmas Carol". The Ghosts of OS's Past, Present, and Future have finally convinced Ebenezer Gates of the error of his way.
5. Due to budget cuts in Redmond, they are really sending the booth crew to collect a load of free pens from the other booths in order to supply the home office.
2. (don't look for #4 and #3. They were lost due to an XP bluescreen). They are there to market the amazing new LinuXbox.
1. Yes, certainly. Giving out free copies of those surplus Windows 3.11 5.25" floppies will win over all of those Linux hippies.
Anyone else remember and love two great old Atari 400/800 games: Drelbs and Necromancer? Quite original at the time; I don't think anything like them has been done since.
(Drelbs was a maze-runner, and Necromancer was the one where you grew trees)
"Since when is a hardware compatibility list not a proper info source?"
Get the clue that what you will find on apple.com is basically ad copy. They avoid listing or talking about all the devices that won't work, even if the list is 5 times as long. Look for an objective source that has no stake in what is on or off the list.
"Remember, most computer users are not computer literate. These are people who struggle to use Internet Explorer."
Ahem. There are a lot of computer literate people who struggle with Internet Explorer's bloated size, vast security holes, configuration difficulties and Java-crashes, and a lot more.
Hey, it's Internet Explorer. Not smooth sailing for any sort of user.
I've only used the AIPTEK pencams. I've had some fantastic photos outdoors, and have had little problem in lit rooms. I wonder if the 5 in 1 is worse than the pencams?
As for webcam, I've not done actual webcam, but I've run it as a tethered camcorder with my own capture software that I have written, and never a problem at all.
"Try getting drivers for an Aiptek device. You have to fill out an online form [aiptek.com] and hope you get a response back so you can get in, I tried this three times and I never got a single response"
I think someone has pirated AIPTEK hardware, and AIPTEK has gotten snitty about just letting anyone download drivers. Not that this excuses them making it difficult for real buyers!
It looks like the view finder is the little square above the lens. I've been very happy with an Aiptek twice the size of this one and am thinking of upgrading to the Mini.
"If you have a 12-year old who wants to snap photos and send them to her friends"
There are $40 cameras available for this purpose. You can get three of them for the girl to play with and break for the price of one of these Logitechs.
"I just think it good to see a company with balls enough to fight the brainless norm. How about a hardware company that makes a keyboard that's specifically designed for X Windows?"
What would be considered "brainless" from the point of view of a company:
- to make a keyboard that works with X-Windows only, or to make one that works with MS-Windows, DOS PC's, Mac OS, X-Windows, and other Linux/etc GUI's?
or, simply:
- to sell a few keyboards just to those who have a certain program, or to sell many keyboards to work for everyone regardless of OS or GUI?
------- I can't imagine any keyboard (or other peripheral maker) with brains making the first choice. Unless perhaps it was a company with a lot to gain by X-Windows sales, and they hope that this incredible great keyboard will boost X-Windows sales since you have to get X to get the keyboard. Not likely.
I think users would be a little more "Brainless" to buy the "X-Windows Only" keyboard as well. There are people who dual-boot different OS's, or perhaps even run different GUI on their Linux systems. They'd have to own two keyboards: one for X-Windows, one for everything else!!!
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I'd not before seen "Fab" used for fabricating plant, but I did know the "fab" as a sort of 3-d fax machine that re-creates solid objects (in shape anyway). It laser-scans the original, and creates a solid copy (corn starch?) at the receiving end.
The item title gave me visions of a new breed of cell phone that could spew solid objects.
The "source code", so to speak, for the Model T is out there, and Ford will not sue you for making or modifying Model T parts.
It is not unfair that Ford does not support the Model T, but it might be if they did what they are not doing: prevent the Model T devotees from "supporting" their cars.
10. If Bill Gates gets more money, he can afford a borg implant for his left eye, too.
9. Linux? Never heard of it.
8. It satisfies the overwhelming slashdot community demand for Palladium, secure
computing, and better enforcement of the DMCA.
7. SAVE OVER $300 ON V1AGRA (oops. my spam filter failed and one slipped into the list)
6. w3 3l33t d00dz must have 1t 2 run directx for Quakedoom 6.
5. IN SOVIET RUSSIA, 2003 WINDOWS YOU!
4. Hey, they've got a monopoly reputation to maintain. Why not help them?
3. Oh boy! Another EULA to ignore!
2. Microsoft says this one's going to be really really good! Why should
I not believe them?
1. It moves us ever closer to Windows 2078, in which all the security holes
will be fixed once and for all.
"And if you were running a Red Hat distro that was 7 years old, Red Hat would have stopped supporting it 4 years ago" ....and someone would have fixed this hole 6 years ago.
"You need to make people pay for what they get, even if it is a big markdown over new books."
...unless you are trying to get rid of too many books.
No need to make anyone pay; I want to make it easier for the people to take the reading material! I've got boxes and boxes of books and magazines (mostly history-related) that I've had trouble giving away.
"and since these books are a finite resource, they will be quickly snapped up (especially the ones worth reading)."
As finite as grains of sand on the beach, I wonder? It seems to me that there are more and more new books all the time, and the older ones are not being destroyed that fast.
"Every user will have more incentive to take from the system than to give"
#8 bad bug report:
"Allow me to introduce myself. I am H.M. Wogglebug, T.E. I will immediately commence to deliver my report. Mind you, some of the tidings therein are bad...."
10. My program died. I have stapled an explanation to the install diskette and it is in the mail.
9. I submitted my e-mail address to a dubious web site, and now I get spam. Could you get them to stop? It is your fault: I found the page in your browser.
7. It happened when I hit one of the keys in one of the screens and I saw a message that said something appear. I think it was that version with the 1 in the name. It might have been Mozilla or Opera, don't ask me.
6. Every time I click on the monkey to win $10,000, I never get anything. Could you add a feature in your future version that makes sure that clicks hit the right monkey?
5. The word "Ayatollah" was not spelled right in one of your web pages, www.cnn.com. Please fix immediately.
4. Mothra is attacking!!!!
3. My el33t boxen broke da bugz. 2 u now.
2. Author Stephen King dead at 54
1. My preying mantis is not housebroken, no matter how much I do. What is there to do besides scold him with "Bad bug! Bad bug!"
>I'm surprised that noone has mentioned the Empeg
>(later bought out by Sonic blue and called "Rio >Car" mp3 player."
What about the RIAA Car mp3 player? Use of it requires use of a hardware key (yes a key like you put in your apartment door) personally handed to you by Hillary Rosens. It requires that you purchase the original songs on CD, Secure CD, 8-Track, Dat, Cassette, and Edison Wax Cylinder (tm) formats.
When all is said and done, the only thing you can listen to is 10 seconds of Metallica's "Unforgiven", and that only when Lars Ulrich is sitting in the passenger seat next to you.
"At least this time, Apple isn't frivolously wielding the DMCA against the makers of such software; the company has only requested that third-party software publishers not infringe Apple trademarks"
Instead they have other methods of legal oppression they were using years before the DMCA ever was a twinkle in Big Brother's eye. From suing other companies for stealing GUI from the same source Apple stole it from to harassing companies on what their machine case looked like.
The Apple legal department's creativity rivals the creativity of their developers.
This player automatically magic-markers the crippletrack to make the CDs copyable.
:)
However, you might get some severe bumper dentage if you start bluetoothing Celine Dion tracks to guys in the next lane.
>In order to be allowed to run AmigaOS, any
>third party hardware vendor is supposed to
>buy a license from Amiga Inc for both
>himself and his hardware, he must modify
>his hardware with license verification
>measures (Amiga Inc. uses a nonsensical
>"anti-piracy" argument for this),
It would be suicide, but the Amiga company is so irrelevant you might as well say it is already dead.
Didn't Texas Instruments do this with their TI 99 4/A? You had to buy a license to make stuff for it. Such a policy ensured that no one made anything for it.
What other serious decisions mistakes is Amiga making that will make sure that there is no Amiga renaissance? I wonder if Jack Tramiel and Neil Harass are back at the helm here.
There is a lesson to be learned: open systems are the ones that survive.
It is bad when the US censors expression. But we do, so this is somewhat hypocritical of the US to complain. However, there is every reason to complain about Thailand's censorship of this advertising, and no reason to support it.
"The U.S. suppliers cried foul and had the WTO and IMF step in to pressure them to revoke the decision."
This is a good example of the WTO and IMF stepping in and stopping a government from denying people basic rights of free speech.
"Are you saying then that Thailand had the right to initiate bombing raids on the U.S. to destroy tobacco fields?"
If Thailand outright bans tobacco, and the US still makes great effort to send it there illegal, yes. But as long as it is legal (approved by the Thailand government) there is no reason.
10. Bill's wallet is a little heavy. What better to do than leave a couple of billion at the Sourceforge booth?
9. Steve Ballmer has a pengiun fetish. It's just not the same since "Bloom County" was cancelled. Time to get another fix.
8. They think it is a Microsoft expo to which some Linux folks have been invited.
7. Microsoft loves trekkies. Going to be a lot of them there at any Linux event.
6. Its like "A Christmas Carol". The Ghosts of OS's Past, Present, and Future have finally convinced Ebenezer Gates of the error of his way.
5. Due to budget cuts in Redmond, they are really sending the booth crew to collect a load of free pens from the other booths in order to supply the home office.
2. (don't look for #4 and #3. They were lost due to an XP bluescreen). They are there to market the amazing new LinuXbox.
1. Yes, certainly. Giving out free copies of those surplus Windows 3.11 5.25" floppies will win over all of those Linux hippies.
Anyone else remember and love two great old Atari 400/800 games: Drelbs and Necromancer? Quite original at the time; I don't think anything like them has been done since.
(Drelbs was a maze-runner, and Necromancer was the one where you grew trees)
"Personally, I always thought was some old-time residue nationalism inherited from the fascist era."
Quote from Chekov: "Scotch?"...It was invented by a little old lady from Leningrad"
"Dude, you're getting an iHewlett Compaqard Dell 2000. Moo!"
"If that's the case, I'll work with the evil throne..."
Why not just clean the bathroom?
"Since when is a hardware compatibility list not a proper info source?"
Get the clue that what you will find on apple.com is basically ad copy. They avoid listing or talking about all the devices that won't work, even if the list is 5 times as long. Look for an objective source that has no stake in what is on or off the list.
"...most digital cameras [apple.com] work fine, and brand name MP3 players [apple.com]...."
Of course Apple says everything works best with Apple. Does this surprise anyone? Can we see what an independent source says?
"Remember, most computer users are not computer literate. These are people who struggle to use Internet Explorer."
Ahem. There are a lot of computer literate people who struggle with Internet Explorer's bloated size, vast security holes, configuration difficulties and Java-crashes, and a lot more.
Hey, it's Internet Explorer. Not smooth sailing for any sort of user.
I've only used the AIPTEK pencams. I've had some fantastic photos outdoors, and have had little problem in lit rooms. I wonder if the 5 in 1 is worse than the pencams?
As for webcam, I've not done actual webcam, but I've run it as a tethered camcorder with my own capture software that I have written, and never a problem at all.
"Try getting drivers for an Aiptek device. You have to fill out an online form [aiptek.com] and hope you get a response back so you can get in, I tried this three times and I never got a single response"
I think someone has pirated AIPTEK hardware, and AIPTEK has gotten snitty about just letting anyone download drivers. Not that this excuses them making it difficult for real buyers!
It looks like the view finder is the little square above the lens. I've been very happy with an Aiptek twice the size of this one and am thinking of upgrading to the Mini.
"If you have a 12-year old who wants to snap photos and send them to her friends"
There are $40 cameras available for this purpose. You can get three of them for the girl to play with and break for the price of one of these Logitechs.
[heard often on cheers: "Norm!!!"]
"I just think it good to see a company with balls enough to fight the brainless norm. How about a hardware company that makes a keyboard that's specifically designed for X Windows?"
What would be considered "brainless" from the point of view of a company:
- to make a keyboard that works with X-Windows only, or to make one that works with MS-Windows, DOS PC's, Mac OS, X-Windows, and other Linux/etc GUI's?
or, simply:
- to sell a few keyboards just to those who have a certain program, or to sell many keyboards to work for everyone regardless of OS or GUI?
-------
I can't imagine any keyboard (or other peripheral maker) with brains making the first choice. Unless perhaps it was a company with a lot to gain by X-Windows sales, and they hope that this incredible great keyboard will boost X-Windows sales since you have to get X to get the keyboard. Not likely.
I think users would be a little more "Brainless" to buy the "X-Windows Only" keyboard as well. There are people who dual-boot different OS's, or perhaps even run different GUI on their Linux systems. They'd have to own two keyboards: one for X-Windows, one for everything else!!!
I'm guessing it will be a TWAIN-camera like similar devices from other companies.