Microsoft didn't design the GPU, ATI did, and everyone knows ATI have always been fabless. TSMC are the manufacturer of the larger of the two dice that make up the Xenos/C1 design, and while that die has been revised since for a process node change, it doesn't even appear if that new revision has been used yet (despite it being finished by ATI a long time ago).
Lewis seems to be just plain wrong, which is kind of upsetting for "chief researcher" at a firm like Gartner, especially when the correct information is freely available.
While the cooling solution for the GPU is the likely cause of most of the failures, that's not necessarily the GPU's fault, or ATI's, especially for a fault so widespread.
Actually there's a good number of modern AMD D3D10 products available on AGP now, and the older R5-series hardware had good AGP presence as well. Not the high-end R600 I should say, but RV630 and RV610 (HD 2600 and HD 2400) are both available. And the Windows Vista driver sucks, somewhat hilariously.
It's not John's. I asked him the same question last April.
>Hi John, > >There's a discussion on Beyond3D.com's forums about who the author of >the following is: > >float InvSqrt (float x){ > float xhalf = 0.5f*x; > int i = *(int*)&x; > i = 0x5f3759df - (i >> 1); > x = *(float*)&i; > x = x*(1.5f - xhalf*x*x); > return x; >} > >Is that something we can attribute to you? Analysis shows it to be >extremely clever in its method and supposedly from the Q3 source. Most >people say it's your work, a few say it's Michael Abrash's. Do you >know who's responsible, possibly with a history of sorts?
Not me, and I don't think it is Michael. Terje Matheson perhaps?
It doesn't always go down. It only slows down until we tweak the max number of connections for the traffic that's coming in.
I'm not sure whether hexus.net aliases to somewhere else in your DNS or something, but our reviews are never 'pretty bad', even though I do say so myself. Maybe you're reading another site instead of ours?
Feel free to point out what you think we suck at though, incase we're missing something and you can help us fix it. Feedback is always welcome, even from Slashdotters.
There will be other 32-bit Athlon's, 'Thorton' for one, a return to 256KB L2 when Athlon64 hits to turn the 32-bit range into the Athlon64's Duron equivalent.
They might not get any faster, but there will be more.
Yeah, you are off the mark slightly. You don't have to know all of the languages that sit on top of the CLR, just pick one you will be best at and use that. Of course each language has different ways of doing the same thing and one language might be a better fit for certain problems, but each language has the same access to the framework, out of the 3 languages you mentioned at least:)
The RC5 core on G4 uses the Altivec engine to good effect for fast keyrates. The Athlon XP has no specific optimisations done for it on RC5 and there is no vector unit to help like on G4.
It uses the same "RG/HB ath" core that was written for original Athlon CPU's some time ago. So the core it runs is unoptimised, unlike the heavily optimised one on G4 using the Altivec unit.
I think it does pretty well considering. And if you are prepared to spend $2800 just for a fast RC5 machine, god help you!
There's more to personal computing than a fast keyrate.
FYI, at 1970Mhz, my Thoroughbred gets just shy of 8M/keys sec using core #6.
It might be a comparatively slow RC5 CPU but if that's all that matters to you...
Actual benchmarks that I've done indicate an instruction throughput of about 1 instruction every 2 clock cycles; coincidentally, the L2 cache runs at 1/2 processor clock speed.
The L2 cache on Athlon XP and Pentium 4 runs at CPU speed, not 1/2.
So Windows PC's around the world already know that they are being used with pirate Product Keys and will prevent the Service Pack being installed?
Why don't they already prevent use of pre-SP1 patches then?
I can only see the Service Pack blocking software updates by means of collaberation with Windows Update. It can't see it preventing use of patches created in the future that it can't know about yet without scanning all executables run on the system for a tell tale "MS Official Patch" signature or whatever.
It will almost certainly require Windows Update to function and prevent updates from that service only.
From what I can tell, it stops you getting patches from Windows Update automatically right?
What's to stop people from just getting the individual patches from their download locations linked from the Knowledge Base and applying them manually, basically doing by hand what Windows Update does for you with a few clicks of the mouse?
I doubt MS will stop patches from being downloadable from everywhere bar Windows Update. They may be a lot of things to a lot of people but they aren't stupid enough to think that 100% of Windows users use Windows Update.
What about people like me that do things manually or systems admins that download their own copies and push manually to desktops using SMS or some other mechanism?
Windows Update isn't the only source for updating a recent Windows box. Please don't be so naive in commentary about this new measure. It probably affects less people than you think, is easily worked around if need be and in any case, is a legitimate measure for MS against piracy of their products.
There's a lot to be said for using films as an escape and not taking much at all from them, purely using them as an escapist medium to escape reality.
Star Wars is arguably to most succesful human escapist work ever created, empowering generations to live in a world they could hardly imagine.
That its success is rated in dollars is purely a side effect of todays money biased society.
Who cares about the money and who cares if the film doesn't impart human feelings. If you enjoy it, that's all that matters. A movie isn't _supposed_ to _do_ anything, it's the viewer that interprets things, not the film forcing anything on you.
An interesting point he makes about HTML being the best means for a cross platform interface for programs, C++ or otherwise.
I think he's right.
Also C++ being the best performing language in the.NET language suite is quite a suprise to me since I though C# got most development focus when creating the new tech.
I'm religiously agnostic so the chance to have some fun with the goverment was not to be missed and living in the UK, myself, my sister and my dad are all Jedi!
And yes, I used the force yesterday to will myself out of bed and out to another mind numbing day in the office. So HA!
OK. So I can't remember my PDC's/BDC's, Exchange, SQL Server and Terminal Servers (all NT4) at one of the world largest Oil companies supporting hundreds (500+) of authenticated and working clients without any significant problems?
Puhleez.
The cost issue is real, but the software being flaky is not. NT is as solid as you make it. Typical Linux FUD if you ask me.
I'm gonna start a new trend. Pirst Fosting. 'cause like First Posting is sooooo last season dahling.
On a serious note, it's nice to see some public usage of Intel's new baby. Cost per CPU seems to be really high (I hear close to $9K for the 800Mhz model). How's that affecting Intel's usual low cost of building setups like this?
I've used the ARM VNC viewer on an iPAQ PocketPC to view a Win2K box over a 40k/sec HSCSD connection in the UK.
It was perfectly usable if you can tolerate lag. VNC over a 10Mb/s network is bad enough sometimes, but imagine it over a connection that has to traverse a cell and POTS before it even hits a router of any shape or form.
When I started my CS course the OOP teaching language was C++. By the time we started the OOP section of the course it had changed to Java. The dedicated programmers on the course self taught themselves C++ during the holdays anyway and we were fine. Java is clean OOP language and is great for teaching OOP principles and good OOP coding habits.
My OOP skills in C++ benefited as a result. I enjoyed the Java course and even those students that are not programming minded thought it was a cool language.
The lecturers enjoy teaching it too as far as I know. Overall it has done no harm to the graduating CS students at my University (RGU in the UK SCMS@RGU ).
And the number of Java jobs out there is a bonus:)
it's plainly obvious that a lot of people didn't actually do any kind of research on this before actually getting the flamethrowers out and aiming for Redmond.
GPT isn't an MS spec. They are just implementing it. LILO supports booting from GPT disks. Plus it's only an issue with 64bit XP.
How many people are gonna be messing with multi-booting OS's on expensive Itanium boxes? It's not an issue.
But yet I see many posts from Linux zealots kicking the shit out of MS once again. Do those people look before they cross the road? I'd hope so. So why can't they extend that and look around for the REAL information before posting another round of MS bashing.
Taco isn't your god. Stop treating/. and Linux advocacy like organised religion of the very very worst kind.
I love Linux as much as the next guy, but the idiots you see that think they are promoting it....*shudder*
This doesn't surprise me one bit
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If I wanted a personal organiser, I'd get a crappy £25 piece pocket diary thing. If all you wanna do is store appointements, contacts and notes, even a Palm is overkill. There are plenty of cheaper devices that do that job just fine.
However, if you want a pocket book reader, MP3 player, gameboy (via emu), web, email, news, irc, ssh, good screen, video, lots of storage space etc, you buy an iPAQ.
The PocketPC OS isn't that bad. If you think so, I don't think you've used it. If you have and you still think so, go back to your Palm. But you'll be in the minority.
You don't like Microsoft? Buy an iPAQ and put PocketLinux on it. The device itself is worth the money, just for the screen. The Palm screen is poor compared to it.
They really need to pull the devices out of the stone age.
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http://superawesomebroadband.com/
Sadly the ISP I work for fails on one of your criteria, but that one should pass with flying colours!
Microsoft didn't design the GPU, ATI did, and everyone knows ATI have always been fabless. TSMC are the manufacturer of the larger of the two dice that make up the Xenos/C1 design, and while that die has been revised since for a process node change, it doesn't even appear if that new revision has been used yet (despite it being finished by ATI a long time ago).
Lewis seems to be just plain wrong, which is kind of upsetting for "chief researcher" at a firm like Gartner, especially when the correct information is freely available.
While the cooling solution for the GPU is the likely cause of most of the failures, that's not necessarily the GPU's fault, or ATI's, especially for a fault so widespread.
Actually there's a good number of modern AMD D3D10 products available on AGP now, and the older R5-series hardware had good AGP presence as well. Not the high-end R600 I should say, but RV630 and RV610 (HD 2600 and HD 2400) are both available. And the Windows Vista driver sucks, somewhat hilariously.
I did. Vista X2 will still look like shit.
It doesn't always go down. It only slows down until we tweak the max number of connections for the traffic that's coming in.
I'm not sure whether hexus.net aliases to somewhere else in your DNS or something, but our reviews are never 'pretty bad', even though I do say so myself. Maybe you're reading another site instead of ours?
Feel free to point out what you think we suck at though, incase we're missing something and you can help us fix it. Feedback is always welcome, even from Slashdotters.
It's NVIDIA, not nVidia. They changed that ages ago.
There will be other 32-bit Athlon's, 'Thorton' for one, a return to 256KB L2 when Athlon64 hits to turn the 32-bit range into the Athlon64's Duron equivalent.
They might not get any faster, but there will be more.
Yeah, you are off the mark slightly. You don't have to know all of the languages that sit on top of the CLR, just pick one you will be best at and use that. Of course each language has different ways of doing the same thing and one language might be a better fit for certain problems, but each language has the same access to the framework, out of the 3 languages you mentioned at least :)
You must be lying, XP takes 2GB of disk space, then you've got NWN too :P
Rys
The RC5 core on G4 uses the Altivec engine to good effect for fast keyrates. The Athlon XP has no specific optimisations done for it on RC5 and there is no vector unit to help like on G4.
It uses the same "RG/HB ath" core that was written for original Athlon CPU's some time ago. So the core it runs is unoptimised, unlike the heavily optimised one on G4 using the Altivec unit.
I think it does pretty well considering. And if you are prepared to spend $2800 just for a fast RC5 machine, god help you!
There's more to personal computing than a fast keyrate.
FYI, at 1970Mhz, my Thoroughbred gets just shy of 8M/keys sec using core #6.
It might be a comparatively slow RC5 CPU but if that's all that matters to you...
Rys
The L2 cache on Athlon XP and Pentium 4 runs at CPU speed, not 1/2.
Rys
Just a quick note about clustering in high end Windows products. Seems like clustering is integral to .NET server. I haven't checked for Windows 2000.
.NET(XP) Server
Clustering in
Rys
So Windows PC's around the world already know that they are being used with pirate Product Keys and will prevent the Service Pack being installed?
Why don't they already prevent use of pre-SP1 patches then?
I can only see the Service Pack blocking software updates by means of collaberation with Windows Update. It can't see it preventing use of patches created in the future that it can't know about yet without scanning all executables run on the system for a tell tale "MS Official Patch" signature or whatever.
It will almost certainly require Windows Update to function and prevent updates from that service only.
Rys
From what I can tell, it stops you getting patches from Windows Update automatically right?
What's to stop people from just getting the individual patches from their download locations linked from the Knowledge Base and applying them manually, basically doing by hand what Windows Update does for you with a few clicks of the mouse?
I doubt MS will stop patches from being downloadable from everywhere bar Windows Update. They may be a lot of things to a lot of people but they aren't stupid enough to think that 100% of Windows users use Windows Update.
What about people like me that do things manually or systems admins that download their own copies and push manually to desktops using SMS or some other mechanism?
Windows Update isn't the only source for updating a recent Windows box. Please don't be so naive in commentary about this new measure. It probably affects less people than you think, is easily worked around if need be and in any case, is a legitimate measure for MS against piracy of their products.
Rys
There's a lot to be said for using films as an escape and not taking much at all from them, purely using them as an escapist medium to escape reality.
Star Wars is arguably to most succesful human escapist work ever created, empowering generations to live in a world they could hardly imagine.
That its success is rated in dollars is purely a side effect of todays money biased society.
Who cares about the money and who cares if the film doesn't impart human feelings. If you enjoy it, that's all that matters. A movie isn't _supposed_ to _do_ anything, it's the viewer that interprets things, not the film forcing anything on you.
Rys
An interesting point he makes about HTML being the best means for a cross platform interface for programs, C++ or otherwise.
.NET language suite is quite a suprise to me since I though C# got most development focus when creating the new tech.
I think he's right.
Also C++ being the best performing language in the
Rys
First!
Rys
I'm religiously agnostic so the chance to have some fun with the goverment was not to be missed and living in the UK, myself, my sister and my dad are all Jedi!
And yes, I used the force yesterday to will myself out of bed and out to another mind numbing day in the office. So HA!
:P
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OK. So I can't remember my PDC's/BDC's, Exchange, SQL Server and Terminal Servers (all NT4) at one of the world largest Oil companies supporting hundreds (500+) of authenticated and working clients without any significant problems?
Puhleez.
The cost issue is real, but the software being flaky is not. NT is as solid as you make it. Typical Linux FUD if you ask me.
Ryszard
I'm gonna start a new trend. Pirst Fosting. 'cause like First Posting is sooooo last season dahling.
On a serious note, it's nice to see some public usage of Intel's new baby. Cost per CPU seems to be really high (I hear close to $9K for the 800Mhz model). How's that affecting Intel's usual low cost of building setups like this?
Cool tech tho without a doubt.
Ryszard
I've used the ARM VNC viewer on an iPAQ PocketPC to view a Win2K box over a 40k/sec HSCSD connection in the UK.
It was perfectly usable if you can tolerate lag. VNC over a 10Mb/s network is bad enough sometimes, but imagine it over a connection that has to traverse a cell and POTS before it even hits a router of any shape or form.
But adjust to the lag and it's golden.
Ryszard
When I started my CS course the OOP teaching language was C++. By the time we started the OOP section of the course it had changed to Java. The dedicated programmers on the course self taught themselves C++ during the holdays anyway and we were fine. Java is clean OOP language and is great for teaching OOP principles and good OOP coding habits.
:)
My OOP skills in C++ benefited as a result. I enjoyed the Java course and even those students that are not programming minded thought it was a cool language.
The lecturers enjoy teaching it too as far as I know. Overall it has done no harm to the graduating CS students at my University (RGU in the UK SCMS@RGU ).
And the number of Java jobs out there is a bonus
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it's plainly obvious that a lot of people didn't actually do any kind of research on this before actually getting the flamethrowers out and aiming for Redmond. GPT isn't an MS spec. They are just implementing it. LILO supports booting from GPT disks. Plus it's only an issue with 64bit XP. How many people are gonna be messing with multi-booting OS's on expensive Itanium boxes? It's not an issue.
/. and Linux advocacy like organised religion of the very very worst kind.
But yet I see many posts from Linux zealots kicking the shit out of MS once again. Do those people look before they cross the road? I'd hope so. So why can't they extend that and look around for the REAL information before posting another round of MS bashing.
Taco isn't your god. Stop treating
I love Linux as much as the next guy, but the idiots you see that think they are promoting it....*shudder*
If I wanted a personal organiser, I'd get a crappy £25 piece pocket diary thing. If all you wanna do is store appointements, contacts and notes, even a Palm is overkill. There are plenty of cheaper devices that do that job just fine. However, if you want a pocket book reader, MP3 player, gameboy (via emu), web, email, news, irc, ssh, good screen, video, lots of storage space etc, you buy an iPAQ. The PocketPC OS isn't that bad. If you think so, I don't think you've used it. If you have and you still think so, go back to your Palm. But you'll be in the minority. You don't like Microsoft? Buy an iPAQ and put PocketLinux on it. The device itself is worth the money, just for the screen. The Palm screen is poor compared to it. They really need to pull the devices out of the stone age.