I would posit the average end user DOESN'T want a lot of choices. I'd say wanting to do whatever you want with a device is pretty much in the geek realm. (Overall) I'm not saying I agree with it, just saying that your average end-user doesn't care that they can't run a specific version of some (for example) SSH program on their phone. Hell, 99% of the world doesn't know what the hell SSH is.
For what they're designed to do (by Apple), they do a fantastic job. Is it Apple's fault that people seem to think their handheld devices are the end-all, be-all of computing?
I don't listen to much in the way of marketing hype (in a funny sidenote, almost ALL the marketing crap I read about comes from...slashdot) but I've never heard anyone at Apple* say that their iPad, or iPhone, or iPod Touch is supposed to replace your existing computers.
Where does this crap come from?
*doesn't mean the marketing hype spewing this crap isn't out there, just means I haven't heard/read about it, is all.
I have an iPhone. I use it to make phone calls, email, listen to music, do light web-browsing, take pictures. That's about it. Sure there are other niche things I use on it, but for the most part those are the big 5 I use it for.
My laptop, I use for everything else.
Why do people think these "niche" devices have to be everything to everyone? They aren't. Here's your car analogy:
People commute in cars to work every day. They also use those cars for various other travel reasons. If they want to store a LOT of materials in the back of their car, they're limited to either making several trips, borrowing a truck from a friend, or something else. If they were moving a lot of materials constantly, it would make more sense for them to use a truck.
In short. Trying to force the idea on the public that having one of these devices will render any other computer obsolete shows a serious lack of critical thinking. (Just like my car analogy does)
Oh heck ya I do. I lived in Atlanta after they put in the 400 toll road. Allegedly, it was only going to be a toll-road for as long as it took to "pay off the cost of the construction". It was built in...I wanna say 1995? I know it was there for the 96 Olympics. I left Atlanta for Northern VA 3 years ago. I went back to visit ~3 months ago and the damned thing was still going strong.
Imagine that you run a coffee shop. You want your customers to use the space in front of the shop while in the shop, and you don't want someone who works across the street to hog the space for 8 hours straight. So to keep the spaces open for customers, you restrict parking time to how long it takes to buy and consume coffee and a sandwich.
Yes, because it should be your customer's problem that you can't plan your parking access better. I don't understand this mentality. (Not trying to offend, I just don't understand how something that is YOUR problem, ie, the coffee shop owner, suddenly becomes the customer's problem.)
So, taxes pay for the roads, the sidewalks, etc. If you pay taxes, and you park where these fucking abominations are, then you get the pleasure of paying another tax on top of what you've already paid to park there.
That sounds great, doesn't it?
I'm assuming there was no vote when these things were put into play?
LOL, you're wrong on every account. Every. Single. One. Not in my 20s. Don't do facebook, twitter, et al. Don't care what you think you know, or think you know about other people. You're the problem with slashdot, you know that? The fucking arrogance on this guy.
No, AC, my point is that if you have a better customer service experience, and happy customers, they'll be loyal customers who enjoy pimping your products for you.
So I may not be racist, but I think keeping your customers happy is a good thing, call that stupid if you want.
I don't know if you'd call them "numbers" or what, but I do know several large companies (Dell, for instance) have shipped call center jobs back to the US due to the public outcry.
I hear this statement a lot, that Southern US dialects are hard to understand. But, I've never had a "Joe-Bob" from LA (That's Lower Alabama, btw) answer my phone call into tech support. Mainly because Joe-Bob isn't working tech support.
I understand their desire to remain relevant and competitive in the out-sourcing marketplace, but dang man, enough is enough.
Seriously. This will probably sound racist as hell, but whatever, I don't care. I'm sick to death of calling into some company for support and struggling mightily to understand the person on the other end. Sick of it. It does not do these companies any good at all to have such unpleasant customer service experiences.
I realize that English is not these folks primary language, and for it being ESL for them, they do a good job. But when I call in for support to a company "based in the US", damnit, I expect to hear a US voice.
Again, call me racist, whatever you want. I really don't give a shit at this point, I'm frigging sick of it. For companies that outsource to these places to "lower costs", you're also lowering profit, due to craptastic customer service, lack of caring, and a strict adherence to "following the script".
Seriously though, if you thought that was real, your BS detector is broken.
Actually, the fact that I thought it was real just shows how sad and pathetic the state of affairs in our country has become.
Stuff like this happens all the time, so to sit there and say "You're stupid for buying this" is either incredibly egotistical or incredibly hind-sighted, one or both.
IOW, well played, sir, well played.
It has been 1 minute since I last posted. I'll go play in traffic now since I can't make my post right now. Thanks, bye/., bye cruel, cruel/.
Is this the part of the show where I make a NOCARRIER joke?
AW SNAP! I've been had. Hard. For like 8 years going now. WTFBBQSauce! For great justice! Natalie Portman and my grits are angry!
In Soviet Russia, I have you!
Wait, WTF was that?
Get off my lawn. And many many more memes.
Back to the subject at hand...if this was simply a PP think-tank style project from some college kid, then get that kid a job at the nearest monopolistic telecomm ASAP.
Oh wow, I feel so proud, my first ever [citation needed]
Do I get a Slashdot "Achievement" for that?
I didn't expect anyone to take my comment seriously. Every video ever seen showing "ball lightning" appears to be either edited heavily or easily explained away as something else.
Slashdot Mirror
It's more bigger.
Gigantor would imply of large size, no?
Ah, I must run, my lunch time when I eat lunch is happening now.
What you did there, I see it.
Em Emalb, May 14, 2010
I would posit the average end user DOESN'T want a lot of choices. I'd say wanting to do whatever you want with a device is pretty much in the geek realm. (Overall) I'm not saying I agree with it, just saying that your average end-user doesn't care that they can't run a specific version of some (for example) SSH program on their phone. Hell, 99% of the world doesn't know what the hell SSH is.
For what they're designed to do (by Apple), they do a fantastic job. Is it Apple's fault that people seem to think their handheld devices are the end-all, be-all of computing?
I don't listen to much in the way of marketing hype (in a funny sidenote, almost ALL the marketing crap I read about comes from...slashdot) but I've never heard anyone at Apple* say that their iPad, or iPhone, or iPod Touch is supposed to replace your existing computers.
Where does this crap come from?
*doesn't mean the marketing hype spewing this crap isn't out there, just means I haven't heard/read about it, is all.
Yeah, that's the thing I don't get.
I have an iPhone. I use it to make phone calls, email, listen to music, do light web-browsing, take pictures. That's about it. Sure there are other niche things I use on it, but for the most part those are the big 5 I use it for.
My laptop, I use for everything else.
Why do people think these "niche" devices have to be everything to everyone? They aren't. Here's your car analogy:
People commute in cars to work every day. They also use those cars for various other travel reasons. If they want to store a LOT of materials in the back of their car, they're limited to either making several trips, borrowing a truck from a friend, or something else. If they were moving a lot of materials constantly, it would make more sense for them to use a truck.
In short. Trying to force the idea on the public that having one of these devices will render any other computer obsolete shows a serious lack of critical thinking. (Just like my car analogy does)
Do you use the same complaint against toll roads?
Oh heck ya I do. I lived in Atlanta after they put in the 400 toll road. Allegedly, it was only going to be a toll-road for as long as it took to "pay off the cost of the construction". It was built in...I wanna say 1995? I know it was there for the 96 Olympics. I left Atlanta for Northern VA 3 years ago. I went back to visit ~3 months ago and the damned thing was still going strong.
Imagine that you run a coffee shop. You want your customers to use the space in front of the shop while in the shop, and you don't want someone who works across the street to hog the space for 8 hours straight. So to keep the spaces open for customers, you restrict parking time to how long it takes to buy and consume coffee and a sandwich.
Yes, because it should be your customer's problem that you can't plan your parking access better. I don't understand this mentality. (Not trying to offend, I just don't understand how something that is YOUR problem, ie, the coffee shop owner, suddenly becomes the customer's problem.)
If we continue on at our present rate, there won't be a country needing to be defended.
So, taxes pay for the roads, the sidewalks, etc. If you pay taxes, and you park where these fucking abominations are, then you get the pleasure of paying another tax on top of what you've already paid to park there.
That sounds great, doesn't it?
I'm assuming there was no vote when these things were put into play?
Apparently this is a troll because someone disagrees with you.
+1 Inconvenient Truth, IMO.
Me personally, I give a flying fuck about space. (For now, and here's why)
We're fighting 2 wars we can't win due to the rules of engagement and the enemy's "tactics".
We're HUGELY in debt, each and every one of us.
The government's solution is to spend even more fucking money.
So yeah, Space can piss off right now, IMO. Let some other fucking country "take the lead" while we fix this broken fucking country.
LOL, you're wrong on every account. Every. Single. One. Not in my 20s. Don't do facebook, twitter, et al. Don't care what you think you know, or think you know about other people. You're the problem with slashdot, you know that? The fucking arrogance on this guy.
and (3)---No Taco Bell sponsorship...yet.
No, AC, my point is that if you have a better customer service experience, and happy customers, they'll be loyal customers who enjoy pimping your products for you.
So I may not be racist, but I think keeping your customers happy is a good thing, call that stupid if you want.
I don't know if you'd call them "numbers" or what, but I do know several large companies (Dell, for instance) have shipped call center jobs back to the US due to the public outcry.
See subject.
You can't force someone to have security. Would they have fined him if he'd left his door unlocked to his house?
I hear this statement a lot, that Southern US dialects are hard to understand. But, I've never had a "Joe-Bob" from LA (That's Lower Alabama, btw) answer my phone call into tech support. Mainly because Joe-Bob isn't working tech support.
I understand their desire to remain relevant and competitive in the out-sourcing marketplace, but dang man, enough is enough.
Seriously. This will probably sound racist as hell, but whatever, I don't care. I'm sick to death of calling into some company for support and struggling mightily to understand the person on the other end. Sick of it. It does not do these companies any good at all to have such unpleasant customer service experiences.
I realize that English is not these folks primary language, and for it being ESL for them, they do a good job. But when I call in for support to a company "based in the US", damnit, I expect to hear a US voice.
Again, call me racist, whatever you want. I really don't give a shit at this point, I'm frigging sick of it. For companies that outsource to these places to "lower costs", you're also lowering profit, due to craptastic customer service, lack of caring, and a strict adherence to "following the script".
Seriously though, if you thought that was real, your BS detector is broken.
Actually, the fact that I thought it was real just shows how sad and pathetic the state of affairs in our country has become.
Stuff like this happens all the time, so to sit there and say "You're stupid for buying this" is either incredibly egotistical or incredibly hind-sighted, one or both.
IOW, well played, sir, well played.
It has been 1 minute since I last posted. I'll go play in traffic now since I can't make my post right now. Thanks, bye /., bye cruel, cruel /.
Is this the part of the show where I make a NOCARRIER joke?
No? Da...NOCARRIER
AW SNAP! I've been had. Hard. For like 8 years going now. WTFBBQSauce! For great justice! Natalie Portman and my grits are angry!
In Soviet Russia, I have you!
Wait, WTF was that?
Get off my lawn. And many many more memes.
Back to the subject at hand...if this was simply a PP think-tank style project from some college kid, then get that kid a job at the nearest monopolistic telecomm ASAP.
is it my imagination or has this been reviewed on slashdot before?
Because you don't become a matplotlib master by doing 12,000 things, you become a matplotlib master by doing 4 things 12,000 times.
Or something. Hell man, I agree with you.
What? Open Source Contributors are the same as the standing militia from when this country was founded?
Holy shit, that's insulting.
+ 1 informative, -1 ICK.
Oh wow, I feel so proud, my first ever [citation needed]
Do I get a Slashdot "Achievement" for that?
I didn't expect anyone to take my comment seriously. Every video ever seen showing "ball lightning" appears to be either edited heavily or easily explained away as something else.
Carry on about your day, good sir.
Doesn't explain people having captured ball lightning on video from in some cases miles away.