You can keep the XP internet if you like. I for one am sticking with the real internet, the one built on non-proprietary standards. The internet that has been around for decades and was the haven of the geeks and intellectuals (well the majority of us anyway) until AOHELL and MSN and a few others came about. If M$ and AOHELL want to form their own proprietary internets and take the hoards of the unwashed with them, they are more than welcome to do so. The rest of us who got into the internet before it became a fad will stay behind, happy again to be mostly free of the SPAM, lamers, trolls, idiots, script kiddies and clueless morons who have been tainting our internet experience since the mid 90's.
Obviously we will still be on the same physical network, but as long as M$ and AOHELL throw up the big walls to keep their little clubs members only, well that just bungs up what is mostly the worst elements of the internet within those rather large camps.
I for one can't wait to see the internet I knew and loved to return. We shall see if it happens, only time will tell... I for one will be very happy never to have to commuicate with another AOHELL or MSN user.
That's a rather broad statement there. Apple has put out some mediocre, and yes, downright crappy products in the past, but some are really really good. Their current G3/G4 lines are quite nice actually, especially the iBook. The Newton was awesome before they killed it. Also think about some of their software products. OS X for one is shaping up to be a damn fine OS and seems to be making far faster progress then Linux has to date. Hypercard was also a fantastic product which they really should bring back from the dead.
This MP3 player has some important innovative features. Yes the price is outrageous right now, but it will come down in a few months, probably after the next revision, think 3-6 months down the road. The VCR was prohibitively expensive when it first came out and look how ubiquitous it is now. Give it time to come down in price and for Apple to get user feedback and make refinements on the product.
Apple's problem isn't really the odd mediocre or crappy product, but the fact that they seem determined to kill or otherwise screw up every really great thing they have ever made. I'm hoping that they will break that trend with their current great products and resurrect some of the now dead ones (Newton + Hypercard).
Thats what Skylarov and a lot of others thought. I think he is simply making a point of how Draconian the DMCA is. It's time to attack that law from every front, from legal to at this point, I think sit ins at the big media companies and even massive protests, prank phone calls and spit wads shot at Jack Valenti at press conferences.
Basically we need to prove to the American people how bad the DMCA is if we want it gone.
Postal is fun, but I'd rather have Half Life
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Half life is a far better game and you can download Scientist Hunt if you feel the need to go Postal. Scientist hunt is by far more amusing than Postal ever was.
I was saying they passed NULL for security in all their products and that is why Outlook and IIS are so full of holes. In otherwords, their security it NULL. Understand now?
Already been there, if you believe all the papers that have been written about Kirk's secret love for Spock. If you go back and watch some of those old Star Treks, some of the episodes you almost expect to see them holding hands down the turbolift or something.
My guess on why they are doing the announcement but releasing it a few days later (Friday seems to be the day most sites are quoting) is to avoid the fiasco they had back in March when some store pre-sold OS X before its launch date. This way they can show it off, then ship the CD's and give them 3 days to get to all the stores before letting them loose officially. If a few get out early before the date via the stores, at least they will still be out after the keynote preview.
Thanks:) I have always wondered if there was any place keeping track of all these remakes. I keep meaning to start reading the Ultima Dragon's newsgroup again. It is great to see these being remade and to live again. The best thing about the older Ultima's is that they were made back when you had to rely more on story than good graphics.
IMO the absolute best story wise was Ultima V. I loved Ultima V to death and spent years playing it over and over. The whole intrigue of the resistance and the oppression and thwarting Blackthorn and the Shadowlords was just so thrilling!
That and I loved the fact you could murder people in their beds, steal torches, smash mirrors and push the cannons around and shoot people with them. *evil grin*
I live in Cincinnati and ther Clearchannel stations here who play those songs are protesting or outright disobeying the ban list. Foremost is WEBN who is playing every song on the list, just heard Phil Collins "In the Air Tonight" a minute ago in fact.
Another station 97.3 (not sure of the call letters) seems to be playing arbitrarily long segments of pure silence from time to time. My guess is they are protesting this by simply not playing anything but dead silence in the spots those songs should have been in.
Anyone got any other stations to add to the list of those cool enough to stand up to Clearchannel?
You know... those who don't want to hear them can turn to another channel or turn the radio off or just ignore it until the song has passed.
If someone asked me to change the station or turn it off for a song, sure I'd do it, but at least leave the choice in the hands of the people, not corporations and the government... Censorship like this is NEVER a good thing. I believe that those affected by this (all of us in some way right?) can deal with this in an adult and dignified manner. We don't need Clearchannel to nanny us, at least I would certainly hope not, otherwise there is no hope for the human race after all.
$4000 is only the totally decked out systems, a PC as decked out as a $4000 Mac is just about as expensive once you add in all the stuff that you get in the mac that most PC's do not come with (Gigabit ethernet, firewire, wireless).
You also get a damn nice machine for your money which will last you a long long time. My 4 year old G3/266 still runs the latest OS (slow only at the GUI end but 10.1 should fix that nicely) and the latest games and software for the Mac OS. Your average mac will often have a much long useful life than a PC bought at the same time. My 3 year old PC will no longer run the latest games and WinXP will probably crawl on it if it even worked at all. Hell, Win98 barely works right on it...
Well I disagree, I think teachers can learn this stuff if they have to. However if you want a middle ground, how about getting them a bunch of Mac's and running OS X? Plenty of software and it is a unix OS so the commands are no different than on unix, just a better GUI. Get them learning on those and load Linux on the PC's the already have. Use the Mac's for the stuff the PC's can't do under Linux. Think about it, you may have to spend a bit on the Mac's but that's still money M$ is not getting and you can use Linux to extend the life of the existing PC's. Yes the Mac's cost a bit more than PC's but software licenses are cheaper and Apple doesn't send the BSA to rape you every 6 months.
How much easier is it to make your school M$ free and save some money at the same time?
Oh and no offense, but speaking of "spellavator" you might wanna use it on before you post next time. Oh and AIDS is a disease, not a teachers pet. I think you meant aides.
Anyway, think about what I said here and I think you will see that yes, you can go Linux in education fairly painlessly and productively.
Also, since the most expensive part of any mission is boosting into low earth orbit, any savings in the first stages of flight would dramatically bring down to costs for any mission, but especially heavy ones (like a manned mission to Mars).
Well that 10kGs at liftoff will at least make the tooth loss on the way to Mars a bit of a moot point.
Not really, I just see this as the free software community using "embrace and extend" against them. After all, Linux isn't going anywhere on the desktop until it runs what most people are used to, and that means quicktime, active x, and direct-x,.doc files, ect. You and I may not like some or even all of them, but that is what the majortiy of people are using. If we get them hooked on Linux first by letting them use this proprietary stuff in a free OS, then we can later introduce better things when Linux or insert-free-os-here has a large enough user base.
First convince them to use Linux or whatever other os you want. THEN mop up the rest.
Heh good one. Hey I wanna apologize for blowing up at you before. I should have seen it as a joke , but for some reason I read it as blatant disregard for the astronauts who are risking their lives and health to get mankind out into space. Chalk it up to posting too early in the morning.
So what about when they get back to Earth? How would you like to lose all your teeth? Think about how that would screw up your eating habits here on Earth.
Jesus H. Christ... why don't people THINK before they post?
Well that and you won't have to replace the damned CMOS battery every 2-4 years;)
A small thing but I can see this being put to use in batteryless CMOS chips first.
About every FF since 7 has have about as much full motion video scenes as game play. Some even more than that. I get annoyed with games that make me sit through 5 minute scenes. Well ok, maybe once if it adds to the story but some are just eye candy that I'd rather skip, at least after I've seen it once already. I'm much more interested in actually playing the damn game.
Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually release a version of FF where you hit the start button and then sit back and watch one big scene. Oh wait they already have, its just not out of the theater yet;)
If they don't offer a download, wait 2 or 3 days, it will be all over Hotline and AIMSter and Gnutella. If you have crappy bandwidth get a friend with a cable modem or access to a cd-burner at work or school to make a copy for you, its legal since its free.
Apple may not like it, but they would be stupid not to look the other way on this and from what I've seen, they generally do look the other way on net sharing of free updates.
IIRC, doesn't Star Office read all of that? I'm still eagarly awaiting the Mac OS X version, but I read on their site somewhere that it does read office docs. I don't know if it also writes them but I am sure it does read them.
In theory it shouldn't be hard for it to do that and keep up with the current word formats. At least until M$ gets wise to this and uses a trivial "encryption" (trivial to keep speed from being an issue) on the data in the files for "enhanced security" which you can't reverse engineer without breaking the DMCA.
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You can keep the XP internet if you like. I for one am sticking with the real internet, the one built on non-proprietary standards. The internet that has been around for decades and was the haven of the geeks and intellectuals (well the majority of us anyway) until AOHELL and MSN and a few others came about. If M$ and AOHELL want to form their own proprietary internets and take the hoards of the unwashed with them, they are more than welcome to do so. The rest of us who got into the internet before it became a fad will stay behind, happy again to be mostly free of the SPAM, lamers, trolls, idiots, script kiddies and clueless morons who have been tainting our internet experience since the mid 90's.
Obviously we will still be on the same physical network, but as long as M$ and AOHELL throw up the big walls to keep their little clubs members only, well that just bungs up what is mostly the worst elements of the internet within those rather large camps.
I for one can't wait to see the internet I knew and loved to return. We shall see if it happens, only time will tell... I for one will be very happy never to have to commuicate with another AOHELL or MSN user.
That's a rather broad statement there. Apple has put out some mediocre, and yes, downright crappy products in the past, but some are really really good. Their current G3/G4 lines are quite nice actually, especially the iBook. The Newton was awesome before they killed it. Also think about some of their software products. OS X for one is shaping up to be a damn fine OS and seems to be making far faster progress then Linux has to date. Hypercard was also a fantastic product which they really should bring back from the dead.
This MP3 player has some important innovative features. Yes the price is outrageous right now, but it will come down in a few months, probably after the next revision, think 3-6 months down the road. The VCR was prohibitively expensive when it first came out and look how ubiquitous it is now. Give it time to come down in price and for Apple to get user feedback and make refinements on the product.
Apple's problem isn't really the odd mediocre or crappy product, but the fact that they seem determined to kill or otherwise screw up every really great thing they have ever made. I'm hoping that they will break that trend with their current great products and resurrect some of the now dead ones (Newton + Hypercard).
Thats what Skylarov and a lot of others thought. I think he is simply making a point of how Draconian the DMCA is. It's time to attack that law from every front, from legal to at this point, I think sit ins at the big media companies and even massive protests, prank phone calls and spit wads shot at Jack Valenti at press conferences.
Basically we need to prove to the American people how bad the DMCA is if we want it gone.
Half life is a far better game and you can download Scientist Hunt if you feel the need to go Postal. Scientist hunt is by far more amusing than Postal ever was.
This was a joke...
I was saying they passed NULL for security in all their products and that is why Outlook and IIS are so full of holes. In otherwords, their security it NULL. Understand now?
Passing NULL to the security argument? Guess that explains IIS and Outlook.
Already been there, if you believe all the papers that have been written about Kirk's secret love for Spock. If you go back and watch some of those old Star Treks, some of the episodes you almost expect to see them holding hands down the turbolift or something.
My guess on why they are doing the announcement but releasing it a few days later (Friday seems to be the day most sites are quoting) is to avoid the fiasco they had back in March when some store pre-sold OS X before its launch date. This way they can show it off, then ship the CD's and give them 3 days to get to all the stores before letting them loose officially. If a few get out early before the date via the stores, at least they will still be out after the keynote preview.
Thanks :) I have always wondered if there was any place keeping track of all these remakes. I keep meaning to start reading the Ultima Dragon's newsgroup again. It is great to see these being remade and to live again. The best thing about the older Ultima's is that they were made back when you had to rely more on story than good graphics.
IMO the absolute best story wise was Ultima V. I loved Ultima V to death and spent years playing it over and over. The whole intrigue of the resistance and the oppression and thwarting Blackthorn and the Shadowlords was just so thrilling!
That and I loved the fact you could murder people in their beds, steal torches, smash mirrors and push the cannons around and shoot people with them. *evil grin*
I live in Cincinnati and ther Clearchannel stations here who play those songs are protesting or outright disobeying the ban list. Foremost is WEBN who is playing every song on the list, just heard Phil Collins "In the Air Tonight" a minute ago in fact.
Another station 97.3 (not sure of the call letters) seems to be playing arbitrarily long segments of pure silence from time to time. My guess is they are protesting this by simply not playing anything but dead silence in the spots those songs should have been in.
Anyone got any other stations to add to the list of those cool enough to stand up to Clearchannel?
You know... those who don't want to hear them can turn to another channel or turn the radio off or just ignore it until the song has passed.
If someone asked me to change the station or turn it off for a song, sure I'd do it, but at least leave the choice in the hands of the people, not corporations and the government... Censorship like this is NEVER a good thing. I believe that those affected by this (all of us in some way right?) can deal with this in an adult and dignified manner. We don't need Clearchannel to nanny us, at least I would certainly hope not, otherwise there is no hope for the human race after all.
$4000 is only the totally decked out systems, a PC as decked out as a $4000 Mac is just about as expensive once you add in all the stuff that you get in the mac that most PC's do not come with (Gigabit ethernet, firewire, wireless).
You also get a damn nice machine for your money which will last you a long long time. My 4 year old G3/266 still runs the latest OS (slow only at the GUI end but 10.1 should fix that nicely) and the latest games and software for the Mac OS. Your average mac will often have a much long useful life than a PC bought at the same time. My 3 year old PC will no longer run the latest games and WinXP will probably crawl on it if it even worked at all. Hell, Win98 barely works right on it...
This link has been working all day
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Maybe redundant but its another link to try if none others are working.
Well I disagree, I think teachers can learn this stuff if they have to. However if you want a middle ground, how about getting them a bunch of Mac's and running OS X? Plenty of software and it is a unix OS so the commands are no different than on unix, just a better GUI. Get them learning on those and load Linux on the PC's the already have. Use the Mac's for the stuff the PC's can't do under Linux. Think about it, you may have to spend a bit on the Mac's but that's still money M$ is not getting and you can use Linux to extend the life of the existing PC's. Yes the Mac's cost a bit more than PC's but software licenses are cheaper and Apple doesn't send the BSA to rape you every 6 months.
How much easier is it to make your school M$ free and save some money at the same time?
Oh and no offense, but speaking of "spellavator" you might wanna use it on before you post next time. Oh and AIDS is a disease, not a teachers pet. I think you meant aides.
Anyway, think about what I said here and I think you will see that yes, you can go Linux in education fairly painlessly and productively.
Also, since the most expensive part of any mission is boosting into low earth orbit, any savings in the first stages of flight would dramatically bring down to costs for any mission, but especially heavy ones (like a manned mission to Mars).
Well that 10kGs at liftoff will at least make the tooth loss on the way to Mars a bit of a moot point.
Not really, I just see this as the free software community using "embrace and extend" against them. After all, Linux isn't going anywhere on the desktop until it runs what most people are used to, and that means quicktime, active x, and direct-x, .doc files, ect. You and I may not like some or even all of them, but that is what the majortiy of people are using. If we get them hooked on Linux first by letting them use this proprietary stuff in a free OS, then we can later introduce better things when Linux or insert-free-os-here has a large enough user base.
First convince them to use Linux or whatever other os you want. THEN mop up the rest.
Heh good one. Hey I wanna apologize for blowing up at you before. I should have seen it as a joke , but for some reason I read it as blatant disregard for the astronauts who are risking their lives and health to get mankind out into space. Chalk it up to posting too early in the morning.
No hard feelings I hope!
What? Still not convinced it would suck to lose some teeth? *holds out closed hand* Come 'ere. Lemme show ya something!
So what about when they get back to Earth? How would you like to lose all your teeth? Think about how that would screw up your eating habits here on Earth.
Jesus H. Christ... why don't people THINK before they post?
Yeah but I bet the old rule still holds for the no name, cheap ones which will be produced..
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IF ONE GOES OUT THEY ALL GO OUT!!!
It will just a few more years to get there
Well that and you won't have to replace the damned CMOS battery every 2-4 years ;)
A small thing but I can see this being put to use in batteryless CMOS chips first.
About every FF since 7 has have about as much full motion video scenes as game play. Some even more than that. I get annoyed with games that make me sit through 5 minute scenes. Well ok, maybe once if it adds to the story but some are just eye candy that I'd rather skip, at least after I've seen it once already. I'm much more interested in actually playing the damn game. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually release a version of FF where you hit the start button and then sit back and watch one big scene. Oh wait they already have, its just not out of the theater yet ;)
If they don't offer a download, wait 2 or 3 days, it will be all over Hotline and AIMSter and Gnutella. If you have crappy bandwidth get a friend with a cable modem or access to a cd-burner at work or school to make a copy for you, its legal since its free. Apple may not like it, but they would be stupid not to look the other way on this and from what I've seen, they generally do look the other way on net sharing of free updates.
IIRC, doesn't Star Office read all of that? I'm still eagarly awaiting the Mac OS X version, but I read on their site somewhere that it does read office docs. I don't know if it also writes them but I am sure it does read them. In theory it shouldn't be hard for it to do that and keep up with the current word formats. At least until M$ gets wise to this and uses a trivial "encryption" (trivial to keep speed from being an issue) on the data in the files for "enhanced security" which you can't reverse engineer without breaking the DMCA.
It might create a good reason to get an AOL account! ;)