That kid really enjoying the destruction is pretty funny.
For those who'd like to do something similar but on a much smaller scale, Estes has done a number of smaller model rockets based on the Star Wars movies. A couple decent models are R2-D2 and my favorite, Vader's TIE fighter. But I would guess the most appropriate to this discussion would be the X Wing
I would be very happy if you are right and I'm wrong. I think there will be a major jump in how we do things with a pc first, but my guess is no better than any other.
That's not a neutral stance - that's the fact of the matter as many have pointed out in response to the parent. And a lot of them use much better comparisons than mine, but it is what I thought of first.
No guarantee the software will always be available. This could be because the development is stopped or because the price is raised to the point I cant afford it. With open source this never need be the case.
The people who develop open software are not inherently motivated to try and force users to 'upgrade' to new versions. They are not inherently motivated to break compatibility with previous versions or other software.
Closed source software tends to become tiered with highly desirable features costing more. Open Source has no such issues.
I work with closed source software every day. I have for years. And I'm always annoyed with the crap I have to deal with. I hear comments like yours all the time. It implies that the only advantage to open source is that each individual can themselves modify the code. This couldn't be further from the truth. There are many, many advantages that extend out from the openeness of the code.
An advantage open source has over closed source is that advances made in one project have the potential to aid and further any and every other open source project. Rather than hiding new ideas and technology, it is proliferated to the benefit of users.
I could go on for a while, and a lot of smarter people than I am have done so. It's not hard stuff to find. But I think this is sufficient for now.
No - I don't feel a concern about people doing things the way I do. I would like to see greater adoption of linux so that some of the issues you've brought up are more likely to be resolved more quickly.
At the same time I do feel a level of concern when Linux is presented as being incapable of being productive, especially in an environment where it has such great advantages, like a shop using Unix, Linux or some other *nix. I'm wracking my brain trying to think up a scenario where that really makes sense.
If I want to surf the web over the free wireless at Panera and watch a dvd - I can see some advantages to windows. If I were working in an all windows environment I could see some possible advantages. But as an admin in a non-windows environment, I can't see what windows brings to the table that is meaningful.
I work with Oracle running on AIX. I was given a Windows laptop for work. I got really tired of all the crap I had to do to simply work with my servers. I scrounged up an old optiplex and installed Linux on it. Work is so much easier for me now. The windows laptop sits on the side - I don't really need it any more.
If I'm off site - the wi-fi thing is an issue. But at work, windows really gets in the way of productivity.
Linux will always be a niche player on the desktop. OSS wont have an opportunity to be huge until there is a truly monumental shift in the way we use personal computers. I think all the work on Linux, and the lessons learned now about closed source and the negative impact it has will go a long way in helping open code to really have a chance at that point.
And maybe after that big shift, the big OSS player will have roots or ties to linux, but it wont be the linux we know now.
So you've extrapolated that because no users looked over your code that no one looks at linux? I'm not sure how anyone could think that follows. I made a video and put it on youtube. Nobody watched it but my family. That's why I don't know what the big deal about youtube is. Nobody looks at video on the site but family of people who submit stuff.
The development tools are good - but the gp is 100% correct that the windows mobile platform itself is awful. It doesn't matter if it is easy to create apps if they wont work the majority of the time.
I have a sprint ppc-6700 that I have to carry for work. It's junk. The os hangs multiple times a day. Any app but the most trivial crushes it. Starting any app is dog slow. It is truly painful to use.
included in most distributions or available for most distributions?
I'm not asking because I think it is the latter, but because I haven't really been out there using a lot of different distros (I pretty much have just used Fedora for the last 4 or 5 years) and so I was surprised to see what you said. Do most distros now ship with mp3 capability included - or did you just mean that most can do so with additional software (like Fedora)?
my karma will get beat up over it - but that's life here on the dot. i wonder if every single piece of music on his ipod got there through something that 'synced' to it. apparently he can't listen to any music on the device if it doesn't have that ability built into it. if you just dropped a boat load of mp3s on his machine, into some directory, he'd never listen to them since you didn't sync them to his ipod.
I've been surprised at how much they already have. Things I've struggled to find elsewhere. And when I did find it, I'd have to order the whole cd. There is a lot more that they can get, but the selection now is not what I would call sparse.
you fixed it for people running wordpress on a machine where they have root privileges. which i'm sure is a good number, but i'm not in that group. thanks anyway.
That's funny. I wouldn't do it personally - I appreciate the product the wordpress folks put out. I'm not going to support this effort, yet at the same time, I wouldn't try to actively undermine it. There may be a bunch of folks out there who are only too happy to participate.
I think that it would have been better if they had been up front and said themselves right off the bat, 'hey we have this in there - and if you want it off, you will have to do it yourself'. But aside from that I don't think this is a very big deal. Someone in the thread compared it so Sony and that is completely wrong. The source is available to anyone. The source is not that big, not that hard to read. The source is ridiculously easy to modify.
It's the right answer for me at this point in time. It is debatable whether or not a fork would be better. You don't think so, but I do.
I'm not sure how using the software, but not enabling this functionality would be supporting the developer. But if by that you mean in essence saying to them, "I support you but not in regards to this one feature." then I'm cool with that. I don't think everything has to be all or nothing. I don't think that the developers of Wordpress have to match my every ideological demand in every way. They make great software that I love to use. Modifying it is so easy it isn't funny. I appreciate their hard work, and if they feel like they need this, more power to them. The only impact on me will be a bit of time researching where the code is and I'm guessing 10 minutes of my time when I get ready to move to the newer version. No biggie.
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That kid really enjoying the destruction is pretty funny.
For those who'd like to do something similar but on a much smaller scale, Estes has done a number of smaller model rockets based on the Star Wars movies. A couple decent models are R2-D2 and my favorite, Vader's TIE fighter. But I would guess the most appropriate to this discussion would be the X Wing
I would be very happy if you are right and I'm wrong. I think there will be a major jump in how we do things with a pc first, but my guess is no better than any other.
That's not a neutral stance - that's the fact of the matter as many have pointed out in response to the parent. And a lot of them use much better comparisons than mine, but it is what I thought of first.
My problems with closed source:
No guarantee the software will always be available. This could be because the development is stopped or because the price is raised to the point I cant afford it. With open source this never need be the case.
The people who develop open software are not inherently motivated to try and force users to 'upgrade' to new versions. They are not inherently motivated to break compatibility with previous versions or other software.
Closed source software tends to become tiered with highly desirable features costing more. Open Source has no such issues.
I work with closed source software every day. I have for years. And I'm always annoyed with the crap I have to deal with. I hear comments like yours all the time. It implies that the only advantage to open source is that each individual can themselves modify the code. This couldn't be further from the truth. There are many, many advantages that extend out from the openeness of the code.
An advantage open source has over closed source is that advances made in one project have the potential to aid and further any and every other open source project. Rather than hiding new ideas and technology, it is proliferated to the benefit of users.
I could go on for a while, and a lot of smarter people than I am have done so. It's not hard stuff to find. But I think this is sufficient for now.
No - I don't feel a concern about people doing things the way I do. I would like to see greater adoption of linux so that some of the issues you've brought up are more likely to be resolved more quickly.
At the same time I do feel a level of concern when Linux is presented as being incapable of being productive, especially in an environment where it has such great advantages, like a shop using Unix, Linux or some other *nix. I'm wracking my brain trying to think up a scenario where that really makes sense.
If I want to surf the web over the free wireless at Panera and watch a dvd - I can see some advantages to windows. If I were working in an all windows environment I could see some possible advantages. But as an admin in a non-windows environment, I can't see what windows brings to the table that is meaningful.
That's why you should start buying Ubuntu at Amazon
I work with Oracle running on AIX. I was given a Windows laptop for work. I got really tired of all the crap I had to do to simply work with my servers. I scrounged up an old optiplex and installed Linux on it. Work is so much easier for me now. The windows laptop sits on the side - I don't really need it any more.
If I'm off site - the wi-fi thing is an issue. But at work, windows really gets in the way of productivity.
Linux will always be a niche player on the desktop. OSS wont have an opportunity to be huge until there is a truly monumental shift in the way we use personal computers. I think all the work on Linux, and the lessons learned now about closed source and the negative impact it has will go a long way in helping open code to really have a chance at that point.
And maybe after that big shift, the big OSS player will have roots or ties to linux, but it wont be the linux we know now.
So you've extrapolated that because no users looked over your code that no one looks at linux? I'm not sure how anyone could think that follows. I made a video and put it on youtube. Nobody watched it but my family. That's why I don't know what the big deal about youtube is. Nobody looks at video on the site but family of people who submit stuff.
Here you go
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We get that, but which one are you attending specifically?
the possibilities are endless.
The development tools are good - but the gp is 100% correct that the windows mobile platform itself is awful. It doesn't matter if it is easy to create apps if they wont work the majority of the time.
I have a sprint ppc-6700 that I have to carry for work. It's junk. The os hangs multiple times a day. Any app but the most trivial crushes it. Starting any app is dog slow. It is truly painful to use.
Not to be confused with the soon to be decommissioned EA6-B.
included in most distributions or available for most distributions?
I'm not asking because I think it is the latter, but because I haven't really been out there using a lot of different distros (I pretty much have just used Fedora for the last 4 or 5 years) and so I was surprised to see what you said. Do most distros now ship with mp3 capability included - or did you just mean that most can do so with additional software (like Fedora)?
my karma will get beat up over it - but that's life here on the dot. i wonder if every single piece of music on his ipod got there through something that 'synced' to it. apparently he can't listen to any music on the device if it doesn't have that ability built into it. if you just dropped a boat load of mp3s on his machine, into some directory, he'd never listen to them since you didn't sync them to his ipod.
how about "in every significant way" because I guarantee you most of us could care less about the AAC - MP3 thing.
don't worry - you don't appear as an Apple fanboy.
You appear as an idiot. If the distinction is meaningful is up to you.
I've been surprised at how much they already have. Things I've struggled to find elsewhere. And when I did find it, I'd have to order the whole cd. There is a lot more that they can get, but the selection now is not what I would call sparse.
I just jumped over and bought a couple songs. Very nice.
you fixed it for people running wordpress on a machine where they have root privileges. which i'm sure is a good number, but i'm not in that group. thanks anyway.
Well there you go. And I see that there are plugins also available to turn it off. Tempest in a teapot is what we have here.
That's funny. I wouldn't do it personally - I appreciate the product the wordpress folks put out. I'm not going to support this effort, yet at the same time, I wouldn't try to actively undermine it. There may be a bunch of folks out there who are only too happy to participate.
I think that it would have been better if they had been up front and said themselves right off the bat, 'hey we have this in there - and if you want it off, you will have to do it yourself'. But aside from that I don't think this is a very big deal. Someone in the thread compared it so Sony and that is completely wrong. The source is available to anyone. The source is not that big, not that hard to read. The source is ridiculously easy to modify.
It's the right answer for me at this point in time. It is debatable whether or not a fork would be better. You don't think so, but I do.
I'm not sure how using the software, but not enabling this functionality would be supporting the developer. But if by that you mean in essence saying to them, "I support you but not in regards to this one feature." then I'm cool with that. I don't think everything has to be all or nothing. I don't think that the developers of Wordpress have to match my every ideological demand in every way. They make great software that I love to use. Modifying it is so easy it isn't funny. I appreciate their hard work, and if they feel like they need this, more power to them. The only impact on me will be a bit of time researching where the code is and I'm guessing 10 minutes of my time when I get ready to move to the newer version. No biggie.