ya know (and I realize we are way off topic here) a concealed weapon is not so much security through obscurity. Personally I would rather carry in the open for a variety of reasons.
First and foremost- drawing from a strong side holster is the quickest way to do so- I have to practice a lot to be half as fast drawing from my fanny pack holster. To carry openly I wouldn't have to pay for a class, get fingerprinted, pay for the permit, take the time for the class, etc. But here's the thing- when I carry in the open- people get real uncomfortable about it. This makes absolutely no sense to me. It is the guns I can't see that make me nervous. But anyway- all that to say I've jumped through all the hoops for my CCW just so people in Safeway wouldn't get all wierd when they saw a pistol on my hip. That's about it.
I grew up here in phoenix- I just had a friend visit from new york- his rent on a one bedroom apartment is more than my house payment for a 4 bedroom w/2 car garage. I know new york is pretty far out to one end on that scale- but Chicago is the same way. Sure there are places with cheaper homes in the country but I doubt few of them have cities close to the size of phoenix.
I think my property taxes are also pretty close to the median for the country- I will agree that tags on my cars are over priced
really understand what you are saying about natural migration- in fact I don't get your point at all- sorry
But arizona is not a desolate land. It is beautiful with a wide range of environments. I love to spend time in the desert as well as the mountains. I wish it weren't so beautiful sometimes because frankly I'm sick of so many people moving here every year.
should not be that high. The state of tech here is not that great. I guess there has some push lately to try and spur bio stuff- but I haven't seen much come from it.
People I've talked to in CA say that AZ is behind the times on tech stuff and when I'm writing vb 6.0 code to create access 97 spreadsheets I can see what they mean.
We've got some big defense contractors here- Lockheed, Raytheon, Boeing but I don't think any of the facilities here have huge numbers of engineers at those sites.
Frankly I think our state and city government types have really missed the boat on luring businesses out of CA to here. The costs are so much lower here. But what do I know?
knew much about mod chips or anything and then last week I watched that new Broken video where they showed a little bit about installing them on 3 consoles. I never understood what mod chips did before that.
They made it perfectly clear in that video that the whole point was you could borrow or rent games and then keep them after you return the physical media. Why else would you pay that kind of money for the chip and then install it- when it looks like you are chancing junking the console?
Now I still use my Sega Genesis- I don't own one of the newer systems, so maybe I'm wrong. But it seems that the slant of this - "it's not for illegal uses!" argument in the thread is/. bias that is as bad or worse than any assumptions the author of the article made.
I never thought you were trolling- and I have enjoyed the discussion.
I respond to AC stuff sometimes if I have the time. Some people who post AC have good stuff to say and I don't usually assume someone is trolling me unless they get way out of hand.
I am assuming some things like you are. I don't know he was off his meds- I'm assuming it because the fact that the parents were concerned and the reason given seem to strongly imply that they are the ones who watch over him taking his medication. I could be wrong.
I strongly doubt that he just seemed ill or drunk. The range of behavior I have seen exhibited in casinos without intervention leads me to believe his behavior was more out of line than something mild. Once again though- as is my main point- we, you and I, don't know. We can't really say if the response of the police was appropriate or not.
Hand cuffs are not to humiliate. They are to protect. They protect the suspect, the officers and others. They are a good thing. Once someone is in cuffs- the situation becomes much safer for everybody involved.
If he is an adult who should be allowed to go anywhere and do anything he wants then it is no big deal that his mom and dad were not immediately notified of his being arrested. If on the other hand this is such a travesty- and he really does need there constant supervision and care- then it is not such a big deal that he was picked up- that is better than just turning the other way and letting him go. Since his parents were not there looking out for him, the police did it.
If the cop is already there- why call fire for transport if he is in no imminent danger?
A lot of criminals, homeless people, etc. are mentally ill. Mentally ill people use drugs and commit crimes too. And I would be right there with you if you find that the mental health system in the U.S. is deplorable. I don't believe the police should be handling these people- but they are forced to as there is no other mechanism in place to do so. It is a travesty in my opinion.
Internal affairs and law suits? I could be wrong but I just don't think you realize the scope of things that your average cop deals with every day. The cop may have saved this guys life for all we know. It all depends on what presuppositions you bring to this since there are so few facts.
And this is just a pet peeve - but common sense isn't.
Meth causes people's heart to stop and then they die
Meth destroys lives bit by bit
Last time I got into a thread where I didn't embrace legalization of drugs and how wonderful/harmless they are it turned into a big freaking flame fest. But I've seen what meth can do to family and friends and I will never be persuaded that it is harmless.
Oh - and you might enjoy what my brother the cop told me the other day - "If it were not for alcohol I would be out of a job".
Would it matter? You should do some ride alongs with local police for a few nights.
Not to mention- this guy is supposed to be on medication daily- and was off it. I am glad they picked him up for his own safety and that of others. This way he doesn't have to use the temp insanity defense if he 'accidentaly' kills somebody while he's off his meds. You see, in that state, he is not responsible for his own actions. So who is? When the folks were called he was in a mental care place- not jail. Sounds like he was treated well.
Beat cops don't have the time or training to do a lot more than look at the current situation and quickly decide if they are going to remove someone. In a casino I bet it is an easy/quick decision. Then when he is no longer a threat to himself or anyone else, you have time to decide what to do. I didn't see anything in the article about him being charged.
But as I said, there just isn't enough information here to make any kind of decision on the rightness/wrongness of what was done. Me- I'm sympathetic to cops and so I tend to assume they did o.k. unless something shows otherwise. It seems (maybe not- I'm just saying) that you are otherwise inclined.
There is not near enough information in this article to make any kind of judgment on what happened.
Last week my brother arrested "Satan" (that's who he said he was)- I guess they might have let him keep harassing people while they tried to diagnose what his problem was but instead they took him in. It was meth so I guess you would be o.k. with it.
I thought it did. It is a pretty new Sony. I'm not sure exactly what model though. When I get home tonight I'm going to check it at the site posted above.
I can't afford a dvd burner right now and I have a bunch of home movies I want to get off tape.
What software do you use to burn your svcd's and what settings do you use? I tried to burn one the other week with some software I bought by ULead and it won't play in my DVD player. There were tons of options for the format and all- I just don't relish trying them all out trying to find the right combination.
Just think about how many people are just fanatical about model trains. I mean it is just huge. The fascination has always escaped me for the most part. This at least makes a little more sense- you can build your own train, modify designs, etc. At least you dont just buy a car, hook it onto the rest and watch it go. I like mindstorms better - but I can see how this would be huge.
now I have a great new project in my mind for my mindstorm set- train wrecking killer bot! It can't be too hard to make people who fret over the color of their train cars matching the book cry. muhahahaha
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up in here? Why?
better stopping power - less danger of through and through killing unintended target.
ya know (and I realize we are way off topic here) a concealed weapon is not so much security through obscurity. Personally I would rather carry in the open for a variety of reasons.
First and foremost- drawing from a strong side holster is the quickest way to do so- I have to practice a lot to be half as fast drawing from my fanny pack holster.
To carry openly I wouldn't have to pay for a class, get fingerprinted, pay for the permit, take the time for the class, etc.
But here's the thing- when I carry in the open- people get real uncomfortable about it. This makes absolutely no sense to me. It is the guns I can't see that make me nervous. But anyway- all that to say I've jumped through all the hoops for my CCW just so people in Safeway wouldn't get all wierd when they saw a pistol on my hip. That's about it.
I grew up here in phoenix- I just had a friend visit from new york- his rent on a one bedroom apartment is more than my house payment for a 4 bedroom w/2 car garage. I know new york is pretty far out to one end on that scale- but Chicago is the same way. Sure there are places with cheaper homes in the country but I doubt few of them have cities close to the size of phoenix.
I think my property taxes are also pretty close to the median for the country- I will agree that tags on my cars are over priced
with a permit (renewing mine this week end) - but anyone who can legally own a handgun can carry in the open here.
in Texas
really understand what you are saying about natural migration- in fact I don't get your point at all- sorry
But arizona is not a desolate land. It is beautiful with a wide range of environments. I love to spend time in the desert as well as the mountains. I wish it weren't so beautiful sometimes because frankly I'm sick of so many people moving here every year.
should not be that high. The state of tech here is not that great. I guess there has some push lately to try and spur bio stuff- but I haven't seen much come from it.
People I've talked to in CA say that AZ is behind the times on tech stuff and when I'm writing vb 6.0 code to create access 97 spreadsheets I can see what they mean.
We've got some big defense contractors here- Lockheed, Raytheon, Boeing but I don't think any of the facilities here have huge numbers of engineers at those sites.
Frankly I think our state and city government types have really missed the boat on luring businesses out of CA to here. The costs are so much lower here. But what do I know?
beat you to it- but the way my day has gone i'll get the -1 redundant and you'll get the +5 phunny
a developer job you insensitive clod!
Your post is very funny and I'm thinking you meant it to be so.
At the same time- one does not need to be proficient at something in order to analyze and describe it.
knew much about mod chips or anything and then last week I watched that new Broken video where they showed a little bit about installing them on 3 consoles. I never understood what mod chips did before that.
/. bias that is as bad or worse than any assumptions the author of the article made.
They made it perfectly clear in that video that the whole point was you could borrow or rent games and then keep them after you return the physical media. Why else would you pay that kind of money for the chip and then install it- when it looks like you are chancing junking the console?
Now I still use my Sega Genesis- I don't own one of the newer systems, so maybe I'm wrong. But it seems that the slant of this - "it's not for illegal uses!" argument in the thread is
I never thought you were trolling- and I have enjoyed the discussion.
I respond to AC stuff sometimes if I have the time. Some people who post AC have good stuff to say and I don't usually assume someone is trolling me unless they get way out of hand.
Colorado for one. This has happened multiple times. This was the first case I could find on google.
I am assuming some things like you are. I don't know he was off his meds- I'm assuming it because the fact that the parents were concerned and the reason given seem to strongly imply that they are the ones who watch over him taking his medication. I could be wrong.
I strongly doubt that he just seemed ill or drunk. The range of behavior I have seen exhibited in casinos without intervention leads me to believe his behavior was more out of line than something mild. Once again though- as is my main point- we, you and I, don't know. We can't really say if the response of the police was appropriate or not.
Hand cuffs are not to humiliate. They are to protect. They protect the suspect, the officers and others. They are a good thing. Once someone is in cuffs- the situation becomes much safer for everybody involved.
If he is an adult who should be allowed to go anywhere and do anything he wants then it is no big deal that his mom and dad were not immediately notified of his being arrested. If on the other hand this is such a travesty- and he really does need there constant supervision and care- then it is not such a big deal that he was picked up- that is better than just turning the other way and letting him go. Since his parents were not there looking out for him, the police did it.
If the cop is already there- why call fire for transport if he is in no imminent danger?
A lot of criminals, homeless people, etc. are mentally ill. Mentally ill people use drugs and commit crimes too. And I would be right there with you if you find that the mental health system in the U.S. is deplorable. I don't believe the police should be handling these people- but they are forced to as there is no other mechanism in place to do so. It is a travesty in my opinion.
Internal affairs and law suits? I could be wrong but I just don't think you realize the scope of things that your average cop deals with every day. The cop may have saved this guys life for all we know. It all depends on what presuppositions you bring to this since there are so few facts.
And this is just a pet peeve - but common sense isn't.
That is interesting. I love when people are told they will never amount to anything and they ignore that and overcome.
Meth turns people into liars and thieves.
Meth causes people's heart to stop and then they die
Meth destroys lives bit by bit
Last time I got into a thread where I didn't embrace legalization of drugs and how wonderful/harmless they are it turned into a big freaking flame fest. But I've seen what meth can do to family and friends and I will never be persuaded that it is harmless.
Oh - and you might enjoy what my brother the cop told me the other day - "If it were not for alcohol I would be out of a job".
Would it matter? You should do some ride alongs with local police for a few nights.
Not to mention- this guy is supposed to be on medication daily- and was off it. I am glad they picked him up for his own safety and that of others. This way he doesn't have to use the temp insanity defense if he 'accidentaly' kills somebody while he's off his meds. You see, in that state, he is not responsible for his own actions. So who is? When the folks were called he was in a mental care place- not jail. Sounds like he was treated well.
Beat cops don't have the time or training to do a lot more than look at the current situation and quickly decide if they are going to remove someone. In a casino I bet it is an easy/quick decision. Then when he is no longer a threat to himself or anyone else, you have time to decide what to do. I didn't see anything in the article about him being charged.
But as I said, there just isn't enough information here to make any kind of decision on the rightness/wrongness of what was done. Me- I'm sympathetic to cops and so I tend to assume they did o.k. unless something shows otherwise. It seems (maybe not- I'm just saying) that you are otherwise inclined.
There is not near enough information in this article to make any kind of judgment on what happened.
Last week my brother arrested "Satan" (that's who he said he was)- I guess they might have let him keep harassing people while they tried to diagnose what his problem was but instead they took him in. It was meth so I guess you would be o.k. with it.
I thought it did. It is a pretty new Sony. I'm not sure exactly what model though. When I get home tonight I'm going to check it at the site posted above.
I can't afford a dvd burner right now and I have a bunch of home movies I want to get off tape.
What software do you use to burn your svcd's and what settings do you use? I tried to burn one the other week with some software I bought by ULead and it won't play in my DVD player. There were tons of options for the format and all- I just don't relish trying them all out trying to find the right combination.
Stupid mods
Just think about how many people are just fanatical about model trains. I mean it is just huge. The fascination has always escaped me for the most part. This at least makes a little more sense- you can build your own train, modify designs, etc. At least you dont just buy a car, hook it onto the rest and watch it go. I like mindstorms better - but I can see how this would be huge.
now I have a great new project in my mind for my mindstorm set- train wrecking killer bot! It can't be too hard to make people who fret over the color of their train cars matching the book cry. muhahahaha
Wire Girl (designed by Gabriele Semeco) represents our bodies chained to our wired technology. Thought I was reading a new strongbad email for a minute.