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Third Space Tourist is Set
Sgt York writes "Space Adventures announced yesterday that Gregory Olsen will be their next private space tourism client. He paid $20M to hop on a Soyuz, sometime by 2005, and go spend some time on the ISS. The cool thing is, he's not just playing tourist. He's the CEO of Sensors Unlimited, has a MS in physics, and a PhD in materials science. He's planning on using the trip to 'help inspire today's youth to dream big' and conduct a few experiments, including testing out some of his company's equipment. SA is billing him as his own 'private space program.'" There's also a space.com story.
With a few billion dollars, you can buy anything you want. Film at 11? No. Nothing new here, move along.
At least he's not part of a boy band.
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Updated 6/28/2011
"I don't want to be like Mike, I want to be like Gregory Olsen!"
In other words, it'll be a tax deduction because it's a "business expense".
Hate to sound like a troll, but is this news? He's the third guy. The first was newsworthy, the second really wasn't, and this even less. The only noteworthy thing is the guy went from rags to riches, and now into space. He'll train, get on a rocket, go to the space station, stay the hell out of the way, return, write a book, make money on said book. The End.
Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
I think it's still too risky. think about it, someone going up that's not an astro flowing around accidentally kicking some switch on a panel breaking something. I know it's prob not *that* unsecure, but still, the point is the ISS is supposed to be this great nation-free project, but the Russian's are trying to milk it for some rubles by gambling that this "tourist" won't break anything.
call me pariod it you wish, but the stakes are too high for this.
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Another "rock and roll" CEO. It's bad enough we have Richard Branson ballooning about as if he's a 20 year old.
He's planning on using the trip to 'help inspire today's youth to dream big' and conduct a few experiments, including testing out some of his company's equipment.
Business trip, be sure to keep the receipts. Oh, and he'll be entertaining a client for dinner when he gets to the space station, so his meal will be a write-off, too.
Hmmm... how many cents per mile is it for a space commute?
He's a space salesman.
Not a problem, but not a whole lot nobler than the average millionaire or boy band member.
Guy: hey, baby, what's up?
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Hot chick: get lost, loser, unless you got something interesting to say!
Guy: I'm going into space next month, gonna cost me $20 mil. I might not come back alive. Look, here's the clipping from the New York Times with my photo. So, want to come for a ride in my Porsche? I got a little time left and a lot of money to burn...
I reckon it'd be worth 2-3 months of one-nighters with exceedingly pretty but easily charmed women. In purely genetic terms, that $20m could be a pretty good investment.
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Sensorsinc's title page says: 'How can a bottle manufacturer prevent glass shards in its drinking containers?' - This guy has a PHD and a company to use plastic bottles. Geees.
Well, this /. story makes it painfully obvious that you should always carry extra in case your luggage gets lost.
If I had that kind of dough to throw around I'd sponsor a probe to Pluto or one of Jupiter's moons
He could buy 8-12 acres of land in PRIME Silicon Valley...and be a billionare in 50 years.
Heak, hes old so whats that investment gonna do for him?
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I'm really not sure what I feel about this whole Space Tourism thing. I guess the space agencies are doing it as a source for some extra cash, but how much does profit do they actually make on these trips? I think for now space technology should be kept for scientific research only. There is still a lot that can go wrong, and even more that we don't know about.
Rockets by SpaceX and others are all well and good, but not even Bill Gates has the cash to fully fund a competent space program. Assume private enterprise could and did, would it be any better than what's happening these days?
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I want to go to space before I DIE! I'll even work for McDonald's as long as its NOT on Earth. The dream of so many, and available for a small few. Is this what you get from Bush's last tax cuts?
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He sounds like an interesting guy - not your typical privileged millionaire.
If the $20 mil isn't getting him any action, I doubt the expensive vacation is going to help.
Guy: My penis has been in outer space. Wanna touch it?
Hot chick (while spraying mace): Eww! I thought this place had a lot of rich guys.
I wonder how much it ACTUALLY costs to send one person into space? From what I understand, the tourists are just tag alongs. In other words, the ship is going anyway. How much extra can that one person cost? $20 Mil for another 150-250 lbs? Chipping in for gas has never been this expensive. Or maybe the people that make up the prices for movie theatre food make up the prices for in flight meals on a space ship.
This looks very interesting. He's the head of a real company that's still fairly small. Small companies, being much less bureaucratic, are friendlier environments for creative work and pioneering investigations.
Olsen looks like a remarkably intelligent man with a good background in the kinds of science he will be exploring up on ISS. He's also led the development of products that the real world wants and needs.
The space business needs more Olsens. Today there are entirely too many bureaucrats with no vision and no ability to connect with the larger world.
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I'm a Tivo fanatic, and I've got a Hidef "ready" TV, so, in my blood, I'm itching to get the new HiDef DirecTV Tivo when it comes out in the next few weeks. Trouble is, it's MSRP is going to be $999. It's just too rich for my blood. Under $500, I could manage, but $999 is just crazy. I expect this price to fall like a rock-- perhaps faster than any other Tivo unit has so far. DirecTV is getting ready to go on a major HD push, even launching a new satellite. This device has got to be part of it.
I wonder if "Space Tourists" will look back to when the going price was $20 million and shudder. I hope so. I hope that visiting space will be an attainable expense within my lifetime.
Surely, the first few are so rich that it doesn't really matter, and the "honor" of being one of the first will be worth the price.. but it's numbers 10-100 that I wonder about. Is it really going to seem worth that price, after the fact?
...Lets Slashdot his company website out of existence.
On another note does he realise that the ISS is falling apart?
This is a newsworthy story as the this guy is going to be one of the first to use ISS to test crystal growth (which should have a clear advantage in a ISS's microgravity setting), his company's infrared cameras. It really is a business expense for him. As opposed to the first space tourists which were just that tourists. He's testing ISS as the prototype for a space based manufacturing facility.
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That is interesting. I love when people are told they will never amount to anything and they ignore that and overcome.
It's hard to believe that's how Micronians are made. Why don't we see it right now by having you both kiss one another?
I read a great article after the first guy went into space where the writer summed up the "sour grapes" reaction from so many who were disturbed that a rich guy could buy a trip to space - it was jealously.
People were envious that one person could actually buy his way into space. Surely, space should be left to scientists, intellectuals, dreamers, etc. rather than a memeber of the "wealthy elite".
The reality is when ship,car,train and airplane travel debuted, the passenger list comprised government-sanctioned types or the very wealthy.
After a time, all forms of travel become accessible to more people from other walks of life and eventually become commonplace.
I say good for this guy. May space become even more accessible to those willing to buy a ticket.
The headline shouln't be that he's the "third space tourist", it should be that he's "the first space tourist to travel tax-free".
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Nietzsche once said people who aspire to lofty ideas ( like "help inspire today's youth to dream big" ) often have very simple, direct, greedy drives that propel them. A scientist might say he's out to prove the hardest theorem, but perhaps all he wants is fame ( eg. Dr. Watson says in his book on decoding DNA that he simply wanted to beat the competitors & become famous ). A philosopher might set out to "find the truth", but perhaps all he wants is tenure at some ivy league institution. Looks to me like Dr. Gregory Olsen simply wants good PR for his firm with this stunt...claiming to inspire American youth seems outlandish.
Pretty sad when the Russian folks are able to send average Joe for a joy ride in space with a return journey...and we (here in the US) don't even have the ability to launch and return the pro's with the whole state of NASA these days. And we are looking to go back to the moon and Mars??
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Did you notice that this time, the US reaction is more laid back? Perhaps the US will begin to take up tourists of their own (eventually).
Frankly, it surprises me that the Russians are the first to realize the profit potential.
So, here's a question... If the US and Russia started to compete for space travellers (and you had the money), which agency would you trust? Why?
It seems one is gathering experience catering their programs to the rich folks, yet the other would have some "whiz bang" technology. Tough call, really.
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The fact that he is a scientist and that he is going to work with his companies equipment is the ultimate having the company "rep" do a visit to the company and see how the equipment is working out...the bonus is that he's also a scientist...we must remember that the ISS was built for material science research in space, so this is an exact fit. Usually, it's training people to be scientists, here, you have a real scientist complete with his own equipment. It's also interesting to note that most of our culture is more tuned into the tourist/boy band wannaby aspect of this story because they are so ignorant of the reason for and importance of basic science research.
This company sounds like they have highly legitimate business reasons to have a guy in space. The CEO might not be the ideal person for that job-but he signs the checks. Shuttleworth and Tito may have been essentially tourists-but this marks the first time legitimate private business has sent an individual in space. I wonder if this trip will be seen as a corporate junket or as having good Return On Investment?
Obviously someone beat me to the punch (the submit button punching that is). Anyway, I wonder if this could be an acceptable new trend, to ship scientists up that are not professional astronauts to conduct research (since, sadly, no one person, not even an astronaut, can be a top-noch scientinst in everything). As a non-astronaut scientist, my head is saying "hell yes!".
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He's a CEO? I wonder who's really paying for this mission.
"The third space tourist - In search of the second" (Spaceballs anyone?)
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Let's all pitch in and send Linus.
Suggested experiments:
Installation of XP on one box, and Linux on another. Which OS os "lighter"?
Evaluation of the safety ramifications of space travel while carrying either a stuffed penguin or a window made of stained glass. Does a towel help?
Installation of dual OS's on all mission critical ISS servers.
Upgrade of Hubble OS to Linux so it'll run on just one Gyro!
Human sciences experiment where the subject must debug an OS kernel in weightlessness while under the influence of various hallucinogenics.
If we can afford it, send strippers, a pole, and a DJ to study and facilitate the development of weightless lap dances.
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Am I the only one who saw that and thought Thirdspace. It sounds a little dangerous to me.
There is nothing so silly as other peoples traditions, and nothing so sacred as our own.
but where is my flying car!
Think of it this way, he just payed 20 million to work for free in space. I think the russians really had the right idea when they started doing space tourism.
"Cosmonauts are too expensive, how can we cut out their already small pay? Answer: Get americans to pay us to work for us. Call it a work for us tax."
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tsk tsk tsk..
Aren't WE a little pissy?
OK, replace Linus / Linux / XP with whoever / Whatever you want... The satire is in anarchistic and unfettered commercial space based research gone bad.
I hate it when I have to explain humor... If you don't get it, STFU...
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He wants to inspire kids to become astronauts. How nice.
With his $20 Million USD, he could fund approximately 20,000 $1000 one-time scholarships.
Let's say he uses the $20 Million USD to establish a trust, which uses earnings on the principal to fund science scholarship programs. Let's say this trust only earns 5% annually. That would be $1 Million USD annually, which could fund 1,000 $1,000 science scholarships annually.
MORTAR COMBAT!
I for one welcome our space touring, PhD-owning corporate overlords. 1. Get Rich 2. Fly to space to do experiments 3. ??? 4. Profit etc.
I for one welcome our space touring, PhD-owning corporate overlords.
1. Get Rich
2. Fly to space to do experiments
3. ???
4. Profit
etc.
There are some companies out there that still want to use glass bottles, for the nostalgic look if nothing else - of the top of my head, I can think of Snapple, Nantucket Nectars, and Coca-Cola products in some parts of the world (I remember get a glass-bottle Sprite in Austria). Their business isn't actually a bad little niche at all...
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Shuttleworth and Tito may have been essentially tourists
This is incorrect. I'm not sure about Tito, but Shuttleworth was definitely not just a tourist, he performed experiments on the ISS.
Crackpots have so many inventions about zero point gravity and using 'left over' forces in zero gravity calculations. He should show kids what zero gravity is about and prove the crackpots wrong as a happy side effect:
Have a remote controlled car (8 wheels; 4 normal at the bottom and 4 at the top for traction) in a plastic shoe box, hang it still in the station. And ride and ram the car into the walls. Notice how the box doesn't move at all, no matter how hard you bang it into the plastic walls. Ha, you didn't expect that now, did you kids.
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How much is he paying me in ISS room rates, for my share of the project as a US taxpayer? We'd better at least stick it to him on the room service - I hope he's a big tipper.
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Then a couple could publicly answer to what has long been rumored to have been secretly tested: what is a zero-gee sex like? What is a zero-gee orgasm like? Can you "do it" without pushing each other apart? Does cumming have a enough force to push a man backwards? Does zero-gee make it bigger? faster? more explosive? Do the hooters stop sagging and always point outwards? Does the Book of Tantra need several more chapters for zero-gee techniques?
It boggles the mind! You could probably raise the $40 mil from curious subscribers alone.
1: Senator Jake Garn
2: Congressman Bill Nelson
3: Senator John Glenn
4: Dennis Tito
5: Mark Shuttleworth
There is no scientific or operational need for members of congress to fly in space, thus they should be remembered as the first space tourists. Tito and Shuttleworth were the first "non-government-employee" space tourists.
You might have missed this link, since it was in one of the comments. Quote of choice:
He also gave $15 million to his alma mater, the University of Virginia and runs a family foundation with his daughter Krista. (For the last ten years, Olsen has also personally mentored a Trenton, N.J., student through the Big Brothers-Big Sisters program.)
And besides, I see absolutely no reason why you have to crack on him like that about how he should be using that money in a "better way" according to you. Perhaps you don't think the way he is spending that money is the right one, but it seems like he disagrees.
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This funding is crucial to the stumbling NASA. Also, it might give Russia a kickstart for their 6 man Soyuz upgrade.
..I'd rather see them earn their $60 million by flying 300,000 passengers at $200 than 3 passengers at $20 million each.
There's nothing in the current ISS infrastructure that will allow you or me to fly to orbit.
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He's not the third, he's the fourth. They're forgetting this guy:
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http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/al-saud.htm
"Payload specialist", my ass. Just a coincidence that he was a Saudi prince, I guess. Everyone working at NASA at the time knew he bought himself a ticket.
I object to that article, and to the next reply.
Soluble Protein crystallisation experiment One of the processes that helps scientist learn about diseases like HIV, is called Soluble Protein Crystallisation (SPC). This process gives scientists a way to understand the immune system and learn how to make it more effective.
Embryo and Stem Cell Development (ESCD) Project Understanding stem cells holds the key to healing serious injuries and disease. This is because where the cells in one part of the body have been damaged, stem cells may one day be used to repair the injury.Studying the heart, muscles and energy in space Space places a very different set of strains on the human body to those we encounter on earth. Much of the science conducted in orbit has been aimed at understanding how we function when under conditions of "micro-gravity".
UCT monitors Shuttleworth Not just anybody is suitably qualified to work out a training programme for astronauts living between heaven and Earth.Forgive me, but a lot of those sound more worthwhile than "materials" research and product testing...
There's this Japanese TV reporter dude who went up in a Soyouz in 1990.
http://www.astronautix.com/flights/mirorter.htm
"let's collect cash from as many of Sam Walton's heirs as we can in exchange for letting them ride the roman candle for a few days each... and let's do it before we completely run out of current-generation space shuttles"
You won't win, you know. If you have government funding, you are "wasting money in space when children are starving here on Earth". If we do what you want, the same people will turn around and whine "you've seen to it that the New Frontier will only be a playground for the idle rich and corporate overlords".