As a CSE student, (albeit one that is generally twice the age of most of his fellow students) I am really looking forward to the day in my programming where my mistakes don't show up until way, way after the final grades are published.
Now, THAT is funny and made even more so by the fact that I have done the same thing. (Damn. That preview button is too close to the Submit Button!!!) Feels kinda like an octupus stomach-ache. You know, where the octopi stomach, the one the comes OUT to get the food, rather than wait paitently for whatever's gonna drop down the pipe, picks up a rock with all those spiky edges. Yuck, yuck, yuck.
I think you might have a slightly misinformed view of the military's basic training. My memory says it's mostly about marching and obeying orders. The only psychology the military ever seems to cares about is whether the guy will do what s/he is told. If s/he can think, prior to or after the order, so much the better! Getting the other guy to die for his country is not rocket science, but it is physically demanding. They do a lot of exercises to improve the quality of the "response", much like football teams. Perhaps there is some psychological help, but I never felt like it was done with that goal in mind.:})||
1. OK, are these things really using semiconductors in production units? If so, good! 2. Actually in a commercial product? 3. forgot about the holos on money. Ok, besides that!:) Still, not a whole lot of examples here. Wish it weren't true, but it is. Cheers,:})||
I realize this will probably never be read as it is a bit late (4 days?), but there is a big (massive) misunderstanding in this discussion. USEABILITY is an issue about how to maximize the user's experience, effectiveness, and/or efficiency in using the a WORKING, BUG-FREE, PREVIOUSLY-INSTALLED application, or OS. (or insert some other more-better lucid explanation). The word does not in any way refer to any of the ridiculously ham-handed, bug-laden, poorly-documented, poorly-interfaced, lazily integrated, rookie-mistake-ridden version of the *nix OSes referenced in the previous posts of this discussion. Just thought you should know.
"Not only is everything you know wrong.", says U.G.Krishnamurti, "but none of what you think you know has any relevance to what you need to know."
Can anyone actually point me to a useful working product of superconductors, or holograms or nanotechnology ? Apparently, these things are the Holy Grail of Science. Methinks they are more like the Emperor's New Clothes.
Actually, I have always wanted to ask this question of an anthropo/archeo-logist.To my untrained Nordic eye, there are not only definite and obvious facial similarities between Orientals and Indians, but that Egyptians, Arabs, Native Semites (Jewish and Arab), Greeks, Spanish, Italians, and nearly everyone Meditteranean, all look pretty much alike to me. I suppose the odd thing is that there are so many thousands of world cultures when there only seems to be about 4 moderately different human physical body "styles". Lots of invisible royal outfits, I guess.:})||
My cats already try to chew up every plastic thing and all our computer cables as it is. It is a startling site to see the cat munching on a power cable. If I every smell smoked kitty, I'll know the cause.:})||
..has all it's very considerable collection sorted chronologically. (as does the British National Art Gallery) For instance, they seem to have every iteration of the microscope (from originals of the first one). They have one whole hall of scale-models of ships, from submarines to QE2, and everything in between. I visited London, and the S&TM over 20 years ago and the experience is still very vivid. The collections may have changed or been rotated but I am sure they are still amazing.
My initial reaction was very similar to yours. "Well, gee." Upon further thought, I realized that I am familiar with quite a few cases where a set/bunch of info was initially thought to be useless, allowed to go "fallow" (become forgotten, etc.), and later re-discovered and found to be of "ground-breaking" importance. One of the best examples might be the "losing" of just about everything really useful that was written by the ancient Greeks. The "saviors" of this "technology" were the Arabs. The rediscovery of the Greek philosophers (et al). helped usher in the European Reformation.:})||
A computer can input, sort, save, and output "billions and billions" of bytes while a person hardly read more than a few hundred, or even thousand, words a minute. The answer lies, I suspect, in resource allocation. A computer program may have up to 100% of the CPU, memory, and peripheral time. The program, and therefore the computer, is single-purpose, relative to any brain function. The brain must always monitor its sensory organs and its involuntary functions, which may be used as input to its control and decision mechanisms.
My seems to have lots of overloading problems, both internal and external. I am beginning to be less and less impressed with my brains's ability to make value-judgements on *any* subject. Cheers. }:{)||
Well, if it goes over 30mph, it'll go faster than most of the traffic in Northern VA during rush hour. If you could brrrm down Hwy. 66 and pass all the other traffic on the extreme left, it would be pretty cool. Heck, near all the "popular" exits, the right lane is usually moving at walking speed anyway. The only real problem I see is that business about leaning forward to go forward & v/v at high speeds. I am probably not that coordinated. Also, people who are concerned about their hair-styling will not be pleased. However, if you can get your dog on the back, s/he would love it. That's it. The ultimate dog-walker!! Thank you, thank you very much. }:{)||
The interesting thing to me about spam is that I do not understand why I get very little spam, if any at all. I have an email account at my university. I have an email account at work. I have 3 email accounts at earthlink.net. I shop occasionally on the Internet. I get most of my spam (about 2 - 3 a week) thru the xxu.edu email system. Nearly every unwanted email message (maybe 1 a day at one of the earthlink accounts) that I get can be traced back to subscribing to a specific service or buy a specific thing at a specific commercial site. My address does not seem to have been sold or handed around. (That would make me feel so *cheap*.) I was job-hunting for a while so, being seen on those job db's, that email got around to some other job hunters, but it's not too bad, considering the messages seen here about the spam abuse. (Is that redundant?) I probably do not realize what it is that I am NOT doing, but I do not enter my email in a form unless required and then only if I really need the thing I am filling out the form for. My email addresses(es) are on no web page that can be seen w/o a userid/passwd. I do not put my email address in my messages nor in any discussion messages. It'll probably turn out that the reason that I am so spam-free is that I never passes on any chain-messages. They were probably all email-address collectors. BAHAHA. Have fun. }:{)||
Any bets on how long there continue to be two Chinas? Right on up to the day that BigChina decides, or realizes, it really, really can just take LittleChina. Which it probably can do any time it wants to with "only" around a couple of hundred thousand lives lost. The BigChina really wouldn't wouldn't have a problem with that. Peasants are cheap in BigChina. Really. Sad, that.
This'll be great if they don't charge for ServicePack SecurityPatch 101. Sure I believe that!;p -- i.e., I bet this is gonna cost somebody big time. BAHA!...Hey, wait, that somebody will probably be ME! (and you and you and you...)
Having neanderthals for ancestors is either not possible for any of the people any of the time or it explains some of the behavior of some of the people all of the time, some of the behavior of all of the people some of the time, or all of the behavior of some of the people all of the time.:P (That or only we wonderful people have neanderthl genes.:{)||
The interesting thing in the replies to your message is not the number of systems quoted that DO have the equivalent of System Update, but that there are so many other computer-literate people, such as yourself, who think that there is no such thing for linux and all other *nixes. Even Cygwin does. How do we get that idea across to more people?
You know, when I was growing up, people always said to each other, "Nothing is this world is free". Maybe the FSF is fighting in-grained cultural beliefs. The only way to fix this is to make people pay for it. Pay us. A lot. They will thank us. (Hello?) Thank you, thank you very much.:{)||
My un-favorite types of Bloat: - In Apps, Games, whatever, it would be a lot nicer to be able to add features, rather than have the whole bloated thing copied/downloaded/installed onto your drive. (Cygwin has a nice setup.exe program that actually lets the user *pick* what he wants *before* the download. Very nice.) - Programs that say "Standby while we figure out what system you are running" and then copy every bloated driver for every type system, and its various peripherals, that ever existed onto your hard drive, anyway. Maybe this is not a problem anymore with the huge disks that exists these days, but it does signify sloppy development work that is usually mirrored in the app.:{)||
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As a CSE student, (albeit one that is generally twice the age of most of his fellow students) I am really looking forward to the day in my programming where my mistakes don't show up until way, way after the final grades are published.
Now, THAT is funny and made even more so by the fact that I have done the same thing. (Damn. That preview button is too close to the Submit Button!!!) Feels kinda like an octupus stomach-ache. You know, where the octopi stomach, the one the comes OUT to get the food, rather than wait paitently for whatever's gonna drop down the pipe, picks up a rock with all those spiky edges. Yuck, yuck, yuck.
I think you might have a slightly misinformed view of the military's basic training. My memory says it's mostly about marching and obeying orders. The only psychology the military ever seems to cares about is whether the guy will do what s/he is told. If s/he can think, prior to or after the order, so much the better! Getting the other guy to die for his country is not rocket science, but it is physically demanding. They do a lot of exercises to improve the quality of the "response", much like football teams. Perhaps there is some psychological help, but I never felt like it was done with that goal in mind. :})||
1. OK, are these things really using semiconductors in production units? If so, good! :) Still, not a whole lot of examples here. Wish it weren't true, but it is. Cheers, :})||
2. Actually in a commercial product?
3. forgot about the holos on money. Ok, besides that!
I realize this will probably never be read as it is a bit late (4 days?), but there is a big (massive) misunderstanding in this discussion. USEABILITY is an issue about how to maximize the user's experience, effectiveness, and/or efficiency in using the a WORKING, BUG-FREE,
PREVIOUSLY-INSTALLED application, or OS. (or insert some other more-better lucid explanation). The word does not in any way refer to any of the ridiculously ham-handed, bug-laden, poorly-documented, poorly-interfaced, lazily integrated, rookie-mistake-ridden version of the *nix OSes referenced in the previous posts of this discussion. Just thought you should know.
"Not only is everything you know wrong.", says U.G.Krishnamurti, "but none of what you think you know has any relevance to what you need to know."
Can anyone actually point me to a useful working product of superconductors, or holograms or nanotechnology ? Apparently, these things are the Holy Grail of Science. Methinks they are more like the Emperor's New Clothes.
Actually, I have always wanted to ask this question of an anthropo/archeo-logist.To my untrained Nordic eye, there are not only definite and obvious facial similarities between Orientals and Indians, but that Egyptians, Arabs, Native Semites (Jewish and Arab), Greeks, Spanish, Italians, and nearly everyone Meditteranean, all look pretty much alike to me. I suppose the odd thing is that there are so many thousands of world cultures when there only seems to be about 4 moderately different human physical body "styles". Lots of invisible royal outfits, I guess.:})||
My cats already try to chew up every plastic thing and all our computer cables as it is. It is a startling site to see the cat munching on a power cable. If I every smell smoked kitty, I'll know the cause. :})||
..has all it's very considerable collection sorted chronologically. (as does the British National Art Gallery) For instance, they seem to have every iteration of the microscope (from originals of the first one). They have one whole hall of scale-models of ships, from submarines to QE2, and everything in between. I visited London, and the S&TM over 20 years ago and the experience is still very vivid. The collections may have changed or been rotated but I am sure they are still amazing.
My initial reaction was very similar to yours. "Well, gee." Upon further thought, I realized that I am familiar with quite a few cases where a set/bunch of info was initially thought to be useless, allowed to go "fallow" (become forgotten, etc.), and later re-discovered and found to be of "ground-breaking" importance. One of the best examples might be the "losing" of just about everything really useful that was written by the ancient Greeks. The "saviors" of this "technology" were the Arabs. The rediscovery of the Greek philosophers (et al). helped usher in the European Reformation. :})||
whatever
Stymie what? What has it DONE? I have heard less tangible products called "vaporware". Lots of talk, very little walk here. (...Yawn...)
And in other news, the town council of Lynchburg, Kentucky has switched to moonshine, saying open source booze is just a win-win situation.
Glad to hear of the "coup", but is this place of any size, importance to the IT world? Just curious. }:{)||
A computer can input, sort, save, and output "billions and billions" of bytes while a person hardly read more than a few hundred, or even thousand, words a minute. The answer lies, I suspect, in resource allocation. A computer program may have up to 100% of the CPU, memory, and peripheral time. The program, and therefore the computer, is single-purpose, relative to any brain function. The brain must always monitor its sensory organs and its involuntary functions, which may be used as input to its control and decision mechanisms.
My seems to have lots of overloading problems, both internal and external. I am beginning to be less and less impressed with my brains's ability to make value-judgements on *any* subject. Cheers. }:{)||
Well, if it goes over 30mph, it'll go faster than most of the traffic in Northern VA during rush hour. If you could brrrm down Hwy. 66 and pass all the other traffic on the extreme left, it would be pretty cool. Heck, near all the "popular" exits, the right lane is usually moving at walking speed anyway. The only real problem I see is that business about leaning forward to go forward & v/v at high speeds. I am probably not that coordinated. Also, people who are concerned about their hair-styling will not be pleased. However, if you can get your dog on the back, s/he would love it. That's it. The ultimate dog-walker!! Thank you, thank you very much. }:{)||
The interesting thing to me about spam is that I do not understand why I get very little spam, if any at all. I have an email account at my university. I have an email account at work. I have 3 email accounts at earthlink.net. I shop occasionally on the Internet. I get most of my spam (about 2 - 3 a week) thru the xxu.edu email system. Nearly every unwanted email message (maybe 1 a day at one of the earthlink accounts) that I get can be traced back to subscribing to a specific service or buy a specific thing at a specific commercial site. My address does not seem to have been sold or handed around. (That would make me feel so *cheap*.) I was job-hunting for a while so, being seen on those job db's, that email got around to some other job hunters, but it's not too bad, considering the messages seen here about the spam abuse. (Is that redundant?) I probably do not realize what it is that I am NOT doing, but I do not enter my email in a form unless required and then only if I really need the thing I am filling out the form for. My email addresses(es) are on no web page that can be seen w/o a userid/passwd. I do not put my email address in my messages nor in any discussion messages. It'll probably turn out that the reason that I am so spam-free is that I never passes on any chain-messages. They were probably all email-address collectors. BAHAHA. Have fun. }:{)||
Any bets on how long there continue to be two Chinas? Right on up to the day that BigChina decides, or realizes, it really, really can just take LittleChina. Which it probably can do any time it wants to with "only" around a couple of hundred thousand lives lost. The BigChina really wouldn't wouldn't have a problem with that. Peasants are cheap in BigChina. Really. Sad, that.
This'll be great if they don't charge for ServicePack SecurityPatch 101. Sure I believe that! ;p -- i.e., I bet this is gonna cost somebody big time. BAHA!...Hey, wait, that somebody will probably be ME! (and you and you and you...)
Also available at APOD - Astronomy Picture of the Day . Enjoy.
Having neanderthals for ancestors is either not possible for any of the people any of the time or it explains some of the behavior of some of the people all of the time, some of the behavior of all of the people some of the time, or all of the behavior of some of the people all of the time. :P (That or only we wonderful people have neanderthl genes. :{)||
What's this about NASA starting a new hoax? Here in VA, USA, a hoax is two or more hokies. (Well, it is now...) :{)||
I kept waiting for someone to say it, but... so here it is: Less-Zilla?
C# is an open standard. The CLI is an open standard.
I am not sure you are using the word "standard" properly.
The interesting thing in the replies to your message is not the number of systems quoted that DO have the equivalent of System Update, but that there are so many other computer-literate people, such as yourself, who think that there is no such thing for linux and all other *nixes. Even Cygwin does. How do we get that idea across to more people?
:{)||
You know, when I was growing up, people always said to each other, "Nothing is this world is free". Maybe the FSF is fighting in-grained cultural beliefs. The only way to fix this is to make people pay for it. Pay us. A lot. They will thank us. (Hello?) Thank you, thank you very much.
My un-favorite types of Bloat: :{)||
- In Apps, Games, whatever, it would be a lot nicer to be able to add features, rather than have the whole bloated thing copied/downloaded/installed onto your drive. (Cygwin has a nice setup.exe program that actually lets the user *pick* what he wants *before* the download. Very nice.)
- Programs that say "Standby while we figure out what system you are running" and then copy every bloated driver for every type system, and its various peripherals, that ever existed onto your hard drive, anyway. Maybe this is not a problem anymore with the huge disks that exists these days, but it does signify sloppy development work that is usually mirrored in the app.