"God loves you" "Neptune lives in the sea" "Your dead sister's soul lives in that rock"
The basic, most fundamental concepts are taught first, and the rest is built up from that. 'If you get the whole book at once'? You don't think missionaries go to Indonesia just to hand out Bibles and leave? They need to explain the basic principles of their beliefs before they can expect someone to follow all the laws and rules built up over centuries in whatever book they are handing out.
Did these books just fall out of the sky? That's a pretty religious assumption. Religions evolve over time. Beliefs and rules fall out of fashion or become more pronounced. Explainations of natural events change.
But yes, religion does not operate in the same way as science. Strange though how hardcore athiests try to judge it like a science instead of a philosophy. Also strange how some fundamentalists consider religious doctrine as scientific fact. I think they both suck, personally.
Man, this is OT--but much more interesting than Linus' response to some bogus 'findings'.
You're absolutely right. I seriously doubt there are enough divinity students around to fill up the clergy. I don't belive I've ever met a priest that majored in Divinity. If you ask a priest what they major was in seminary, they'll most likely tell you Biology or some other science. Ask one. They're nice people and generally open to discussions about religion in general. A priest, though, not a pastor. They'll just throw a Bible at you.
Nope, not the optimizing version. They didn't even give you that with the $109 "standard" edition of Visual C++. Nope, from MS's website
Overview
The Microsoft Visual C++ Toolkit 2003 includes the core tools developers need to compile and link C++-based applications for Windows and the.NET Common Language Runtime:
* Microsoft C/C++ Optimizing Compiler and Linker. These are the same compiler and linker that ship with Visual Studio.NET 2003 Professional!
* C Runtime Library and the C++ Standard Library, including the Standard Template Library. These are the same static-link libraries included with Visual Studio.
* Microsoft.NET Framework Common Language Runtime. Visual C++ can optionally build applications that target the Common Language
Runtime (CLR).
* Sample code. The toolkit includes four samples designed to showcase the powerful new features of the 2003 version, including new optimization capabilities, features to improve code-security and robustness, enhanced ISO C++ standards support, and the ability to use the.NET Framework library and target the CLR.
The company plans to release a new product, internally known as Windows XP Premium, that combines Windows XP Professional with an updated version of Windows Media Player. Premium will be available only on new PCs, not in boxes at retail.
...which is much creepier. This sounds like the new WinXP will only be allowed to run on newer hardware. Possibly new Palladium-ish hardware. The whole point they say is
The new media player software lets online music stores -- including one that Microsoft plans to launch later this year -- snap right into the design, so that users can easily buy music from inside the player application.
That sounds like the first real use of Palladium hardware to me (benefiting MS of course).
Another ACTION game turned movie. More pain in watching them try to form some kind of story and character development around it (Super Mario Bros? Tomb Raider? Mortal Kombat? Street Fighter?????)
Maybe one day a game with a STORY will get made into a film.
No, not Final Fantasy again. Ick.
How about Torment? or FALLOUT!!! The BIS games had good stories, but the fantasy titles probably wouldn't fare too well post-LotR. They already had good actors doing the voices (David Warner, David Keith, Ron Pearlman, Dan Castellaneta, Tres McNeil, Michael Dorn, on and on...).
Or maybe Metriod will exceed my low expectations. Good luck, Mr. Woo.
The Gimp: Well, it uses Gtk+, but it isn't officially a part of the Gnome platform, is it? It doesn't use too many other Gnome libraries. I don't really count it as a Gnome app. And, er, why was it in development for three frickin' years to get to 2.0?
Well, yes it uses Gtk. It's not the GNOME tool kit. And that's a great VERSION NUMBER TOO LOW, MUST BE BAD PROGRAM quip at the end there.
Gaim: Yes, Gaim is very good, but you should see the new Kopete messenger in KDE 3.2. Very slick, supports MSN, Yahoo, AIM, ICQ, and IRC, with a plugin interface, XSLT to generate the chat windows, etc. etc. It's at least comparable to Gaim.
So Gaim is better than Kopete. I'm not sure how this is an example of how GNOME apps are more primitive.
Rhythmbox: Hmm, looks like a pretty nice music player. But have you seen the new JuK in KDE 3.2? Very serviceable, and very solid MP3 player. It even looks similar to Rhythmbox. On the other hand, it lacks net Radio... maybe in the next version?
So Rhythmbox is better than Juk... yes, yes, I can think I can see your point now...
Galeon: Umm... Galeon is just a wrapper around Mozilla, the 10-thousand pound gorilla of a web browser. I prefer Konqueror and the KHTML widget. KHTML, though not perfect at CSS, is way faster, and is far easier to embed that Mozilla. It now supports mouse gestures with KHotKeys, and conforms properly to your UI theme.
So you don't like Galeon because it's based off of Mozilla, which you don't like. The facts, the irrefutable facts, I drown in them.
And look, I seriously have to point out that Konqueror beats Nautilus. The KIOSlave system means drag-and-drop "just works" across many protocols (ftp, sftp, fish, audiocd ripping, http, samba (smb protocol)). I have yet to see Nautilus do anything like this, except with CD Burning (but KDE has K3b, so I don't mind).
Nautilus can drag and drop across many protocols, but I won't argue that its better than KIOSlave, which is nice and functional. Congradulations, you have pointed that KDE has better DnD than GNOME. Therefore, GNOME and gtk are silly things.
Indeed. Longhorn's vector graphics break the SVG standard, "because SVG did not integrate well with Avalon"--even though SVG is XML, like Avalon. You'd think with 400 developers working on Avalon, they would find a way to integrate it...
I'm sure they'll go out of their way to make it difficult to convert between their screwy system and the W3 standard. Hopefully someone will hack out a converter. And this IS important, for companies that don't want to rewrite all their vector graphics to port something to Linux. Reusing icons on different platforms used to be the easiest part.
Enlightenment's edje library does basically the same thing. The UI is completely abstracted from the program, so you can design the entire interface in a simple text (.edc) file. The syntax is a little uglier than Avalon, but it is strictly interpreted (Avalon's xaml files can be interpreted at runtime, but the performance hit is [reportedly] bad). Edje files seem to be more powerful, as you can write little subroutines in the files for things like 'check all boxes'. I'm sure Longhorn's widgets more than make up for this though.
But what I'm saying is that we can do this. Too bad nobody cares about enlighenment anymore.
Oh, and edje (and all of the EFL's) are strictly C.
Perhaps you should check out the EFL's. The edje library works very similar to Avalon/XAML. UI's are completely abstracted from the applications and stored in text/image archives, but unlike Avalon, edje files aren't pre-compiled. They also allow animations and other neat things that MS hasn't mentioned being in Avalon. Avalon's SVG-like display tech breaks SVG standar- err- has better interoperability with WinFX (whodathunkit).
I think a much more urgent concern, more than relocating the species before the 3 billion year solar apocolypse, is advancing humanity socially by education, health care, food, tolerance, unity, and other such wonderful hippee crap so we don't annihilate ourselves in the next 50 years.
Of course that simply won't happen. Humans are greedy and wastefuls creatures and we probably aren't going to last long as technology keeps advancing faster than society.
In 3 billion years, as the sun swells and consumes the Earth, the super-intelligent arachnid overlords will have left and colonized 2/3 of the galaxy, long since having learned to live in harmony with each other and harvest the energy of black holes.
No, they were no id Software. They were Black Isle Studios.
Stanley Kubrick was no Quentin Tarantino. Kids like yourself probably think the latter is the better filmmaker. Enjoy your consensus. May you continue to run your life by it.
No, this isn't what happened at all. The developers were diligently working away at Fallout 3, after the creator of BIS, Feargus Urquart, had left, and after the original lead on Fallout3, Josh Sawyer, left as well. They were working to get the game made despite signals from Interplay. I've heard terrible stories about the politics and headaches of working at BIS. I've never worked there, so I can only imagine.
Interplay shut down BIS because they will be console-only from now on. Their stock is at 7 cents/share and they've lost their Matrix and DnD licences (Baldur's Gate 3 was about 90% done when they messed that up) and all they have is the Fallout licence. They think, for some ungodly reason, thing the bastard that is Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel and its sequel will generate more revenue than F3 would.
For canning a game that they repeatedly promised for 4 years, all the while pumping out DnD titles, finally announcing after unleashing a Fallout console game with about as much to do with Fallout as a beer commercial and canning a dedicated, talented team and a great development house 2 week before Christmas, they have my absolute animosity. All I want from Interplay now is for them the fail. I can't do much(spread bad word of mouth about their future titles (if they even last that long) and retell how shittily they fired off a few dozen people)but I'll do what I can. Fuck Interplay.
I find it interesting that SCO and MS are just finding out that they can slander linux if they wish. Up to now most MS anti-linux banter has been semi-based on fact or at least some semblance of fact. They don't need to do this. There is no damaged party as long as they don't mention IBM, Redhat, et al. They can say it kills your grandmother and rapes your farm animals. They don't need to prove a thing or worry about the repercussions. A nasty drawback of the GPL. No liability, no defence against slander.
Unless they do something stupid like mention the specific code in question or the source that might have put it in...
It's strange that almost no one has mentioned Glow [openoffice.org]. As it is, Openoffice can't compete in a the small-medium office environment because of its lack of an integrated PIM/groupware client. Glow is what will make OO a real competitor to MSOffice, not faster startup times or an Access replacement.
...though they could use a new dictionary and thesaurus (both of theirs are easily the worst out there).
The people who hack, today, are the people who would have been working on their cars 30 years ago.
Of course! Who the hell worked on their cars in 1973? or 1953? Geeks! Leather-jacket-wearing, knife-fighting, hot-rodding geeks!
May their rebellious spirits live on in today's network security analysts.
Whoa, I agree that Outlaw Star is very teen oriented, it's also more R-rated than Cowboy Bebop.
Outlaw Star has frequent nudity and devious sexual references (like Gene reaching up android-girl's skirt while she's sleeping). There's also plenty of violence, drinking, and main characters getting killed. This, for the most part, isn't played to make the series more mature, but just to have some flourishing excess; i.e., teen-oriented.
Bebop is more mature because it doesn't have as much objectionable material. The themes, music and mood are more adult in themselves.
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Religion is always built up from base principles.
"God loves you" "Neptune lives in the sea" "Your dead sister's soul lives in that rock"
The basic, most fundamental concepts are taught first, and the rest is built up from that. 'If you get the whole book at once'? You don't think missionaries go to Indonesia just to hand out Bibles and leave? They need to explain the basic principles of their beliefs before they can expect someone to follow all the laws and rules built up over centuries in whatever book they are handing out.
Did these books just fall out of the sky? That's a pretty religious assumption. Religions evolve over time. Beliefs and rules fall out of fashion or become more pronounced. Explainations of natural events change.
But yes, religion does not operate in the same way as science. Strange though how hardcore athiests try to judge it like a science instead of a philosophy. Also strange how some fundamentalists consider religious doctrine as scientific fact. I think they both suck, personally.
Man, this is OT--but much more interesting than Linus' response to some bogus 'findings'.
You're absolutely right. I seriously doubt there are enough divinity students around to fill up the clergy. I don't belive I've ever met a priest that majored in Divinity.
If you ask a priest what they major was in seminary, they'll most likely tell you Biology or some other science.
Ask one. They're nice people and generally open to discussions about religion in general.
A priest, though, not a pastor. They'll just throw a Bible at you.
Nope, from MS's website
All kinds of goodness, Coward
Actually, the whole quote is
...which is much creepier. This sounds like the new WinXP will only be allowed to run on newer hardware. Possibly new Palladium-ish hardware. The whole point they say is
The company plans to release a new product, internally known as Windows XP Premium, that combines Windows XP Professional with an updated version of Windows Media Player. Premium will be available only on new PCs, not in boxes at retail.
The new media player software lets online music stores -- including one that Microsoft plans to launch later this year -- snap right into the design, so that users can easily buy music from inside the player application.
That sounds like the first real use of Palladium hardware to me (benefiting MS of course).
Another ACTION game turned movie. More pain in watching them try to form some kind of story and character development around it (Super Mario Bros? Tomb Raider? Mortal Kombat? Street Fighter?????)
Maybe one day a game with a STORY will get made into a film.
No, not Final Fantasy again. Ick.
How about Torment? or FALLOUT!!! The BIS games had good stories, but the fantasy titles probably wouldn't fare too well post-LotR. They already had good actors doing the voices (David Warner, David Keith, Ron Pearlman, Dan Castellaneta, Tres McNeil, Michael Dorn, on and on...).
Or maybe Metriod will exceed my low expectations. Good luck, Mr. Woo.
Well, yes it uses Gtk. It's not the GNOME tool kit. And that's a great VERSION NUMBER TOO LOW, MUST BE BAD PROGRAM quip at the end there.
So Gaim is better than Kopete. I'm not sure how this is an example of how GNOME apps are more primitive.
So Rhythmbox is better than Juk... yes, yes, I can think I can see your point now...
So you don't like Galeon because it's based off of Mozilla, which you don't like. The facts, the irrefutable facts, I drown in them.
Nautilus can drag and drop across many protocols, but I won't argue that its better than KIOSlave, which is nice and functional.
Congradulations, you have pointed that KDE has better DnD than GNOME. Therefore, GNOME and gtk are silly things.
Indeed. Longhorn's vector graphics break the SVG standard, "because SVG did not integrate well with Avalon"--even though SVG is XML, like Avalon. You'd think with 400 developers working on Avalon, they would find a way to integrate it...
I'm sure they'll go out of their way to make it difficult to convert between their screwy system and the W3 standard. Hopefully someone will hack out a converter. And this IS important, for companies that don't want to rewrite all their vector graphics to port something to Linux. Reusing icons on different platforms used to be the easiest part.
I guess what you're impressed by is Avalon.
Enlightenment's edje library does basically the same thing. The UI is completely abstracted from the program, so you can design the entire interface in a simple text (.edc) file. The syntax is a little uglier than Avalon, but it is strictly interpreted (Avalon's xaml files can be interpreted at runtime, but the performance hit is [reportedly] bad). Edje files seem to be more powerful, as you can write little subroutines in the files for things like 'check all boxes'. I'm sure Longhorn's widgets more than make up for this though.
But what I'm saying is that we can do this. Too bad nobody cares about enlighenment anymore.
Oh, and edje (and all of the EFL's) are strictly C.
Who remembers the big shakeout of the '83?
everyone who RTFA
err, I assume you mean this
Perhaps you should check out the EFL's. The edje library works very similar to Avalon/XAML. UI's are completely abstracted from the applications and stored in text/image archives, but unlike Avalon, edje files aren't pre-compiled. They also allow animations and other neat things that MS hasn't mentioned being in Avalon.
Avalon's SVG-like display tech breaks SVG standar- err- has better interoperability with WinFX (whodathunkit).
And nice troll btw. Yummy.
I thought it was tied with Z.
...six hours after I finish emerging kde 3.1.5.
It took 20 hours.
Shit on a stick.
I think a much more urgent concern, more than relocating the species before the 3 billion year solar apocolypse, is advancing humanity socially by education, health care, food, tolerance, unity, and other such wonderful hippee crap so we don't annihilate ourselves in the next 50 years.
Of course that simply won't happen. Humans are greedy and wastefuls creatures and we probably aren't going to last long as technology keeps advancing faster than society.
In 3 billion years, as the sun swells and consumes the Earth, the super-intelligent arachnid overlords will have left and colonized 2/3 of the galaxy, long since having learned to live in harmony with each other and harvest the energy of black holes.
May doom greet us with open arms.
I'm really not sure what I've mentioned that's underground...
Stanley Kubrick? Not really a little known European filmmaker. Black Isle Studios? They've sold millions of highly-rated games.
This hardly makes them underground.
No, they were no id Software. They were Black Isle Studios.
Stanley Kubrick was no Quentin Tarantino. Kids like yourself probably think the latter is the better filmmaker. Enjoy your consensus. May you continue to run your life by it.
No, this isn't what happened at all. The developers were diligently working away at Fallout 3, after the creator of BIS, Feargus Urquart, had left, and after the original lead on Fallout3, Josh Sawyer, left as well. They were working to get the game made despite signals from Interplay. I've heard terrible stories about the politics and headaches of working at BIS. I've never worked there, so I can only imagine.
Interplay shut down BIS because they will be console-only from now on. Their stock is at 7 cents/share and they've lost their Matrix and DnD licences (Baldur's Gate 3 was about 90% done when they messed that up) and all they have is the Fallout licence. They think, for some ungodly reason, thing the bastard that is Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel and its sequel will generate more revenue than F3 would.
For canning a game that they repeatedly promised for 4 years, all the while pumping out DnD titles, finally announcing after unleashing a Fallout console game with about as much to do with Fallout as a beer commercial and canning a dedicated, talented team and a great development house 2 week before Christmas, they have my absolute animosity.
All I want from Interplay now is for them the fail. I can't do much(spread bad word of mouth about their future titles (if they even last that long) and retell how shittily they fired off a few dozen people)but I'll do what I can.
Fuck Interplay.
I tried giving a phony name.
"Yeah, it's Captain Billy Joe McTankertootel. That's capital M - c - capital T - a - n - k - e - r - t - o - o - t - e - l."
She hung up before I could finish spelling my last name.
Try having kids you goddam whiner.
You'll realize that your life was nothing but free time, and you could have done whatever the hell you wanted to do whenever the hell you wanted.
Now you're trying to figure out the last section of your term paper while fishing a small piece of human shit out of a bathtub.
"Oh no, I only have 12 hours till my paper is due! Good thing I won't have to spend 7 1/2 of it changing, feeding, and entertaining the child!"
As a side effect, they make you into a cranky, bitter adult when you're only 25.
Oh well. I love him anyway... wonderful Peter.
I find it interesting that SCO and MS are just finding out that they can slander linux if they wish. Up to now most MS anti-linux banter has been semi-based on fact or at least some semblance of fact. They don't need to do this. There is no damaged party as long as they don't mention IBM, Redhat, et al. They can say it kills your grandmother and rapes your farm animals. They don't need to prove a thing or worry about the repercussions. A nasty drawback of the GPL. No liability, no defence against slander.
Unless they do something stupid like mention the specific code in question or the source that might have put it in...
It's strange that almost no one has mentioned Glow [openoffice.org]. As it is, Openoffice can't compete in a the small-medium office environment because of its lack of an integrated PIM/groupware client. Glow is what will make OO a real competitor to MSOffice, not faster startup times or an Access replacement.
...though they could use a new dictionary and thesaurus (both of theirs are easily the worst out there).
May their rebellious spirits live on in today's network security analysts.
Try 70 years ago.
German, eh?
We'll call it "Liberty Linux"
Whoa, I agree that Outlaw Star is very teen oriented, it's also more R-rated than Cowboy Bebop.
Outlaw Star has frequent nudity and devious sexual references (like Gene reaching up android-girl's skirt while she's sleeping). There's also plenty of violence, drinking, and main characters getting killed. This, for the most part, isn't played to make the series more mature, but just to have some flourishing excess; i.e., teen-oriented.
Bebop is more mature because it doesn't have as much objectionable material. The themes, music and mood are more adult in themselves.
...those are actually pre-SP4 hotfixes, to be included in the next service pack.