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I agree with you on many points but one things intrigues me, and for context I'm agnostic and I don't believe we'll ever know the one true way.
Relativism simply doesn't hold to reason. I won't digress into my reasons though.
This intrigues me. How can there be one true way if there is no one true being? What is used to determine truth?
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What ever happened to enjoying life?
Why don't you take a little of your own advice?
Not everybody wants to save the world, some people just want to live in it. It's messed up, and if you want to try to fix it feel free and I solute you. But don't take the elitist attitude that those are the things people *should* be thinking about. People *should* be thinking about whatever the hell they want to, and if that means working 8 hrs a day and then watching some TV when you get done then that's perfectly fine. After all, what What's the big deal if you die having changed the world if you Can't Take it With You"TM?
As a matter of fact yes. I've been developing applications for Windows for a while and every system we create solves a business problem which either directly profits a company or allows them to operate more efficiently. These people pay a lot of money and don't put up with a system that doesn't work. The money they save using these systems easily justifies the cash they have to spend on the software.
It amazes when I see all the shit about how horrible Windows products are here on Slashdot, when > 90% of all computers run Windows. Marketing may have helped them succeed, but there's no way they'd maintain their position at the top if they didn't deliver solutions that worked.
I'm not saying MS is perfect and of course you can't make a blanket statement and say all MS users are happy. But MS does understand what's important to business users. I've yet to come arcross a problem that couldn't be solved in some way, and it's all been on Microsoft software.
Somehow I doubt people would call you a sanctimonious prick or holier-than-thou if you simply said "I don't watch tv." I'm willing to bet it was something like "I don't watch TV because I have better things to do with my time".
My claim is that television is much more like an addiction than like something that people enjoy and appreciate
Nope. Some people just enjoy tv. I watch news, history programs, national geo documentaries, even the occasional comedy show. How is that any less valuable than any other activity? It may not be what you prefer, but chances are I probably wouldn't like to do what you do. I don't know what this "life" thing you're talking about is. Sure I've got friends and I'm interested in other things. There's this thing called balance. Now maybe your message is "It's unhealthy to base you entire existence around television", but that'd be true for anything now wouldn't it.
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I didn't say that the incident scarred me forever and that it was really important to me peronally. All I said was, it frustrated me at the time, when I was trying to test something to deliver it and I couldn't install another piece because I had to install a fucking browser first. Actually, I believe these *SHOULD* be seperate products So when I have to deliver a product to a client, I need to first make sure they have the right file system on their computer? Fuck that. I want a certain set of services that I can depend on being there, and if MS isn't the one to dictate what should be in their product then I don't know who should.
Is it a matter of "can't", or is it a matter of "don't want to"? It's certainly possible to du these things(even the ford/chevy thing is possible, though difficult), and in fact, in the automotive industry, there is an entire industry around changing the components of the cars.
No. I can't got to a Ford Dealer (the OEM), and have him install a Chevy engine in my car. Maybe I can have him install some different speakers, I don't know(though I'd think if I wanted to get a radio from the dealer it would be the dealer's brand.) But the really important stuff, there's no way. Sure there's a market for changing components of cars. When are these components changed? After the consumer has purchased the product, in full. Then you can go get your custom rims added, your beefed up tires etc. The same is true of the computer market. A consumer could go to a consultant and pay him to uninstall IE and install Netscape, and the same with many other components.
This is naught but proof that you anger far too easily(and should really seek professional help).
I can throw insults too! You're a fucking moron. Boy, that was fun.
The actual situation was annoying. I was trying to finish something that was already overdue. Because I hadn't been at a computer without a browser for so long I assumed it would already be there. In other words, it seemed like a basic component of the computer.
Why shouldn't the browser be a seperate product?
Why shouldn't the file manager, disk defragmenter, or file system be separate products? Because they're basic parts of the computer experience in the Windows world.
Who else is going to define the boundries? The government? Maybe that's it. Maybe they should be forced to stop selling windows, and all operating systems would come from the government. Then the OEMs could add little extras like a browser, or a text editor, or window manager, or file manager. That sounds great.
So there are some things you can change, but you can't change the core components of the car. I can't have a Ford engine installed in my new Chevy. I can't have the doors and seats removed. Similarily the OEMs can change/add some things, but the bickering is about what the core components of Windows are. A couple years ago nobody would have considered a browser a core component, but today it is. I installed a older version of NT a while ago that didn't have a browser and that made me really angry. MS is saying that they want control over the core components of Windows, the states say they can't do that.
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Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me. * Winston Churchill
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. *Benjamin Franklin
If you ever reach total enlightenment while drinking beer, I bet it makes beer shoot out your nose. *Jack Handy
Without question, the greatest invention in the history of mankind is beer. Oh, I grant you that the wheel was also a fine invention, but the wheel does not go nearly as well with pizza. * Dave Barry
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Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world. * Kaiser Wilhelm
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I wish Bill Gates would GPL Windows and then charge about a quadrillion dollars for access to the source code. Then we'd have a ridiculous solution to a ridiculous complaint.
Hatred, perhaps, but not blind. All that is needed to hate Microsoft is a sense of ethics and knowledge of Microsoft's actions.
Really? I have extensive knowledge of MS's actions and a sense of ethics and I don't hate Microsoft. I don't claim that they're angels without flaw but I don't see them as any worse than the millions of other companies trying to make a buck (or billions.) I personally don't like Oracle and all their baggage but I understand that they're in business and the bottom line is profit.
I've read the word zealot used in reference to Linux people, but I understood it when I watched the interview a couple of months ago with Tiemann, Ballmer, and some of the other big names. I forget the particular open source event it took place at, but I remember feeling embarrassed for the guy because of the way he was acting. He was lashing out at Ballmer and MS and in that particular situation it was totally unprofessional.
I wouldn't accept his testimony for anything other than blind/passionate MS hatred.
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I agree with you on many points but one things intrigues me, and for context I'm agnostic and I don't believe we'll ever know the one true way.
Relativism simply doesn't hold to reason. I won't digress into my reasons though.
This intrigues me. How can there be one true way if there is no one true being? What is used to determine truth?
What ever happened to enjoying life?
Why don't you take a little of your own advice?
Not everybody wants to save the world, some people just want to live in it. It's messed up, and if you want to try to fix it feel free and I solute you. But don't take the elitist attitude that those are the things people *should* be thinking about. People *should* be thinking about whatever the hell they want to, and if that means working 8 hrs a day and then watching some TV when you get done then that's perfectly fine. After all, what What's the big deal if you die having changed the world if you Can't Take it With You"TM?
As a matter of fact yes. I've been developing applications for Windows for a while and every system we create solves a business problem which either directly profits a company or allows them to operate more efficiently. These people pay a lot of money and don't put up with a system that doesn't work. The money they save using these systems easily justifies the cash they have to spend on the software.
It amazes when I see all the shit about how horrible Windows products are here on Slashdot, when > 90% of all computers run Windows. Marketing may have helped them succeed, but there's no way they'd maintain their position at the top if they didn't deliver solutions that worked.
I'm not saying MS is perfect and of course you can't make a blanket statement and say all MS users are happy. But MS does understand what's important to business users. I've yet to come arcross a problem that couldn't be solved in some way, and it's all been on Microsoft software.
Check out this article.
Basically is states that they were doing what you talked about, but settled with the SEC without having to admit any wrongdoing.
Somehow I doubt people would call you a sanctimonious prick or holier-than-thou if you simply said "I don't watch tv." I'm willing to bet it was something like "I don't watch TV because I have better things to do with my time".
My claim is that television is much more like an addiction than like something that people enjoy and appreciate
Nope. Some people just enjoy tv. I watch news, history programs, national geo documentaries, even the occasional comedy show. How is that any less valuable than any other activity? It may not be what you prefer, but chances are I probably wouldn't like to do what you do. I don't know what this "life" thing you're talking about is. Sure I've got friends and I'm interested in other things. There's this thing called balance. Now maybe your message is "It's unhealthy to base you entire existence around television", but that'd be true for anything now wouldn't it.
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If Natalie Portman talked and acted like Jar Jar Binks but looked like she does now, would you still want to nail her? I honestly can't make up my mind.
"Mesa love you long long time. Mesa yous humbule sex servaunt."
Ughhh. Sorry.
I had one that I didn't catch, and upon delivery to the client I had to quickly remove a line of code that printed "You are an idiot."
My debugging messages have since been altered.
In a recent interview Satan confirmed that the use of Windows does not automatically condemn you to an eternity of hellfire.
"Well as it turns out, most of my subjects were Windows users, but there's no direct relationship. However with the MS purchase of evil who knows what's in store for the future."
I didn't say that the incident scarred me forever and that it was really important to me peronally. All I said was, it frustrated me at the time, when I was trying to test something to deliver it and I couldn't install another piece because I had to install a fucking browser first.
Actually, I believe these *SHOULD* be seperate products
So when I have to deliver a product to a client, I need to first make sure they have the right file system on their computer? Fuck that. I want a certain set of services that I can depend on being there, and if MS isn't the one to dictate what should be in their product then I don't know who should.
Is it a matter of "can't", or is it a matter of "don't want to"? It's certainly possible to du these things(even the ford/chevy thing is possible, though difficult), and in fact, in the automotive industry, there is an entire industry around changing the components of the cars.
No. I can't got to a Ford Dealer (the OEM), and have him install a Chevy engine in my car. Maybe I can have him install some different speakers, I don't know(though I'd think if I wanted to get a radio from the dealer it would be the dealer's brand.) But the really important stuff, there's no way. Sure there's a market for changing components of cars. When are these components changed? After the consumer has purchased the product, in full. Then you can go get your custom rims added, your beefed up tires etc. The same is true of the computer market. A consumer could go to a consultant and pay him to uninstall IE and install Netscape, and the same with many other components.
This is naught but proof that you anger far too easily(and should really seek professional help).
I can throw insults too! You're a fucking moron. Boy, that was fun.
The actual situation was annoying. I was trying to finish something that was already overdue. Because I hadn't been at a computer without a browser for so long I assumed it would already be there. In other words, it seemed like a basic component of the computer.
Why shouldn't the browser be a seperate product?
Why shouldn't the file manager, disk defragmenter, or file system be separate products?
Because they're basic parts of the computer experience in the Windows world.
Who else is going to define the boundries? The government? Maybe that's it. Maybe they should be forced to stop selling windows, and all operating systems would come from the government. Then the OEMs could add little extras like a browser, or a text editor, or window manager, or file manager. That sounds great.
And the whole point is that it's different. You can't expect it to behave any particular way.
So there are some things you can change, but you can't change the core components of the car. I can't have a Ford engine installed in my new Chevy. I can't have the doors and seats removed. Similarily the OEMs can change/add some things, but the bickering is about what the core components of Windows are. A couple years ago nobody would have considered a browser a core component, but today it is. I installed a older version of NT a while ago that didn't have a browser and that made me really angry. MS is saying that they want control over the core components of Windows, the states say they can't do that.
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Remember "I" before "E," except in Budweiser. *Anonymous
To some it's a six-pack, to me it's a support Group. *Anonymous
Beer - Because one doesn't solve the world's problems over white wine. *Anonymous
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading. * Henny Youngman
Reality is an illusion that occurs due to lack of alcohol. *Anonymous
Drinking provides a beautiful excuse to pursue the one activity that truly gives me pleasure : hooking up with fat, hairy girls. * Ross Levy
Sometimes I reflect back on all the beer I have consumed. Then I look into the glass and think about the workers in the brewery and all of their Hopes and dreams. If I didn't drink this beer, they might be out of work and their dreams would be shattered. Then I say to myself, "It is better that I drink this beer and let their dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver." * Jack Handy
I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. * Frank Sinatra
The problem with some people is that when they aren't drunk, they're sober. *William Butler Yeats
An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools. * Ernest Hemingway
Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut. * Ernest Hemingway
Time is never wasted when you're wasted all the time. *Catherine Zandonella
A woman drove me to drink and I didn't even have the decency to thank her. *W. C. Fields
What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch? * Tee Mans
Life is a waste of time, time is a waste of life, so get wasted all of the time and have the time of your life. *Michelle Mastrolacasa
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy. *Tom Waits
When we drink beer we fall asleep. We fall asleep, we commit no sin. When we commit no sin, we go to heaven. Sooooo, let's all get drunk and go to heaven! * Brian O'Rourke
You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. * Frank Zappa
Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me. * Winston Churchill
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. *Benjamin Franklin
If you ever reach total enlightenment while drinking beer, I bet it makes beer shoot out your nose. *Jack Handy
Without question, the greatest invention in the history of mankind is beer. Oh, I grant you that the wheel was also a fine invention, but the wheel does not go nearly as well with pizza. * Dave Barry
The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind. *Humphrey Bogart
Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world. * Kaiser Wilhelm
Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such as hydrogen and oxygen, for example, there would be no way to make water, a vital ingredient in beer. *Dave Barry
You know you're drunk when you fall off the floor. *Anonymous
And God said, "Let there be vodka!" And He saw that it was good. Then God said, "Let there be light!" And then He said, "Whoa - too much light." * Anonymous
You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on. *Dean Martin
Beer: Helping ugly people have sex since 1862! *Anonymous
I wish Bill Gates would GPL Windows and then charge about a quadrillion dollars for access to the source code. Then we'd have a ridiculous solution to a ridiculous complaint.
Is that you Ozzy?
Hatred, perhaps, but not blind. All that is needed to hate Microsoft is a sense of ethics and knowledge of Microsoft's actions.
Really? I have extensive knowledge of MS's actions and a sense of ethics and I don't hate Microsoft. I don't claim that they're angels without flaw but I don't see them as any worse than the millions of other companies trying to make a buck (or billions.) I personally don't like Oracle and all their baggage but I understand that they're in business and the bottom line is profit.
I've read the word zealot used in reference to Linux people, but I understood it when I watched the interview a couple of months ago with Tiemann, Ballmer, and some of the other big names. I forget the particular open source event it took place at, but I remember feeling embarrassed for the guy because of the way he was acting. He was lashing out at Ballmer and MS and in that particular situation it was totally unprofessional.
I wouldn't accept his testimony for anything other than blind/passionate MS hatred.
Couple with some technology like this we could have some seriously effective soldiers. Not that we don't already...
psst......IT IS
People have been doing it for years. Hell, don't tell Slashdot, but I'm doing it right now.
Actually to clarify, I'm not basing my life on proprietary software, just my computer usage.
The only way I'd get one of these things would be if they had a Darth Maul double necked version. That'd be sweet.
Some of us Yanks were able to comprehend the deep levels of humor.
And no, you and Mr. Gretzky can keep all your hockey tips on the insecure side on the border.