His inability to not appear to be a raving madman insured that his message would be lost to the masses.
If no one listens, who cares if you are right or wrong?
That's the biggest cop out Ive heard in a long time.
The guy made some big calls and at the time most people pointed and laughed and cried 'bullshit, will never happen'
Then the crazy predictions started coming true and the prevailing attitude is 'ITS HIS FAULT CAUSE HE IS A CRAZY PEDANTIC ARSE HOLE'.
WTF?
Face it, the guy saw the unpossible happening and tried his best to stop/slow it and was ridiculed greatly for it.
Its like a perverse boy who cried wolf story where the villages ignore the boy in the first instance and then blame him when the wolf eats their sheep.
Well for the record I care that he was right and I care that I also didn't do enough to help.
PS: Stop saying 'it wont happen' because it is happening and by lumping everyone that expresses concern into a nice 'ignore the loony' bucket you are contributing to the fall of the empire.
I find this sort of thing rather amusing. You didn't trust closed source software...
So you download ten million or so lines of source code from some anonymous server, written by thousands of people you've never met and will never know. You then build it using even more software and libraries and tools running under yet another OS, and you then install it on hardware with its own BIOS and roms and controllers.
As opposed to purchasing software made up of millions of lines of codes, bits and pieces of which were outsourced to who knows where and full of pre compiled secret sauce binaries and a giant tangle of interdependent licensing agreements?
The way I see it, Its all about risk management.
Most companies don't have a problem with using off the shelf generic software - mainly because they can swap it out without seriously impacting their business.
But a western government spy agencies probably wont use Baido-GoldenCloudAllCom for their day to day note taking.
If software is a serious part of your business, you should have a team of people that know what they are doing looking after it for you. That team of people will have a much easier time of sorting things out when 'Shit goes bad' with an open/free stack that with a ton of sealed binaries and a priority support phone number.
If software is a just necessary expense (I just need word and email damit) then outsource the lot of it and keep it as a line item. This topic doesn't concern you.
Lets face it folks Linux isn't gonna save you a dime, not in the short or medium term anyway. You are gonna need more expensive Linux admins instead of dirt cheap MCSEs, you are gonna have to hire developers to code FOSS versions of any and all niche programs you have,
1> You should be hiring expensive well trained windows admins in the first place. OTOH It is perfectly feasible that a company can hire el-cheap got a piece of paper linux admin that can balls up their infrastructure just like the el-cheapo windows ones.
2> Just because your using FOSS software does not force all your apps to become FOSS software. If its a niche application you wont be distributing it so who cares what if its glp, if its not and you want to make money selling apps then pay for the non GPL versions of what ever your using just like in windows land.
I bet if you looked at their budget they probably haven't saved squat yet and possibly have even had the price go up as they have paid for all of the above that I listed
I think that if you looked closely and included *all* the ongoing support costs for the enterprisey things like sql server, oracle, sharepoint, SAP etc you start getting a massive savings boost. Admittedly this is all back end stuff, but that's were the big money is. (Mind you, at 50$ a year, 1000 machines almost gets you a full time employee)
I think you are being disingenuous as well by discounting the ongoing costs of licenses and support contracts. Those sorts of costs can hire you a lot of on site, first loyalty is to the company/department people.
I'm a contractor that has spent most of my career 'on site' at various large institutions. Never less than 2 years at any one spot - the contract has always been extended even after the original work has been done.
I've seen "in-house" development groups come up with some of the nastiest, most byzantine pieces of crap-hackery you could possibly imagine
Very true, It you hire crap staff you will get crap results. Most of the places Ive worked had environments like this. In fact, its usually why I get called in ("ARGHH!! ITS ALL SHIIIIIIT FIX IT!!!!!!!")
But with vendor approaches, if you dislike the direction the project is heading, you can kill it, cut out the vendor, and move on to something you find more acceptable.
Hang on. Your saying that an IT department that is not capable of hiring even basically competent staff is some how magically able to contract and evaluate a 3rd party to meet their businesses needs?
That's rubbish.
The same lack of management competency that led to hiring crap staff will result in a crap outsourcing project.
If you have a good management layer, you will succeed regardless of outsourcing or in sourcing. If you have a continual need for X number of developers, why pay the over head of a contracting firm? Sure bring in people when you need to, but they should support your in house team not replace them.
I say if your big enough for an IT Department, your big enough for at least one full time developer. If you want to outsource, then walk the walk and outsource THE LOT (Includes all CIO and IT related management positions)
I'm not saying that any internal wizardry should be avoided -- but really when you develop internal solutions you should know what you are getting into, and know how long you are going to put up with it, especially when the remainder of the world moves on -- and leaves you behind the times. Also be VERY wary of what's termed "the lottery problem" or the "hit by a bus" problem -- as in, when the guru who put together your super awesome sales lead processing database / application stack that's central to your company making money doesn't show up at work anymore, what are you going to do? When the desktop machine that's responsible for keeping track of your development metrics is re-imaged by mistake, what do you do then? When the world's best custom-designed project tracker heads for the bit bucket with all the plans in it, what next? Hopefully these kinds of things can be identified and the little projects that grow into business critical services will be properly supported, but I've seen it go the wrong way quite a few times.
How does outsourcing solve this? What if the outsourcing companies only developer gets hit by that bus, or even the whole company burns down? What happens when they decide that the custom thingy built for you is no longer worth supporting and there's no end of life code hand over (but there is a new wiz bang product that they sell!)
The big dollars required for outsourcing contracts that properly* cover all the problems you mention will most likely solve them for you anyway.
*As in actually account for them as apposed to 'well, they said they did, amazing considering the price'
The job length of a well paid and respected employee is far longer than your typical product life cycle.
3 years into a 3 month contracting stint and having witnessed at 50% turnaround of the permanent staff I disagree with the sentiment if not the letter of your point. There is always something else that needs doing and the long term position is a thing of the past.
If you business is small enough to warrant a single product only then I'm thinking that the requirements are small enough for something of the shelf. (Why outsource?)
If your business is big enough for a custom jobby (or 'configured' enterprisy solution) then its probably big enough to support one or two developers. If your budget cant support that then it sure as hell cant support getting into bed with a large outsourced 'solution'.
In my own experience it boils down the to quality and competency on the managers in charge. If someone cant manage productivity and deadlines with staff that directly reports to (and can be fired by) them, they wont be able to manage an outsourced company or project either.
you are kidding right? Have a look at the stats for the humble bundle releases some time. Linux users are more than willing to hand over the cash for pew pew's.
When will there be a candid talke and recognition that Israel is more often the villain and things should be set right?
When you can get more than one person in a room to have a discussion that does not apply words like 'villain' or 'innocent' to either side (both having a long history of inflicting nasty deeds and suffering on the other).
How abut charging bankers with the crimes they have committed.
They cant be charged with any crimes because technically they have not committed any. Any the apparent reason for the technically is that they managed to have the laws changed (GS repeal amongst others) due to intense lobbying and donations to BOTH parties.
That's were a lot of frustration is coming from. The massive inequalities between big corp and regular joe. Just because its lawful doesn't make it right.
Yes, they should just continue allowing competitors to copy their small range of products verbatim!
I do not think this word means what you think it means.
The the product that you statement is based on, whilst very similar does not: Weigh the exactly the same, have exactly the same dimensions, have exactly the inputs or have exactly the same operating system as the ipad.
Instead of suing, apple should be using it to their advantage "Look at the crappy imitators, apple original is bestest!!1!"
Plus the USA has its election next year, so inevitably the pork barrel will come out. No doubt that will add a couple of digits to the user/revenue/ebitda mulitple that Facebook will be valued at.
No it wont. Remember the politicians promised to reduce spending, they even have a bipartisan committee and everything. In fact, I understand your guys are so committed to this that a certain ratings agency is being put through the wringer for suggesting otherwise..
I recently spent several hours training some office 2003 users to do fairly basic stuff in office 2010.
Like what?
my 2 time sucking rage building ribbon hates:
* Table editing in Design mode there is no font/alignment options. In Home mode you loose border color/size options. Moving into a table sometime shows different ribbon.
* Drawing Canvas: In Format mode, no font tools. In Home mode, no drawing tools.
Yes I can select text, hover and and wait for the floating toolbar to appear. Yes I can fill my title bar up with all the friken buttons I need. I DON'T CARE I WANT MY TOOL BARS BACK!
Seriously, why not offer a choice between ribbon and classic and make everyone happy? WHY WHY WHY WHY!
This is an extremely good point - Sharepoint is fairly obviously the future, and I imagine in a few years many companies won't even run a vanilla SMB fileserver. Which should be just in time for Samba 4 to come out.
What? You first post derides 'free' software due to the need for and costs of the bevy of expensive consultants to come in and set things up for you - and then you point at Sharepoint as being the way of the future.
Are you seriously going to stand up hand over heart and say properly installing, configuring and using that beast is a point and click operation that can be undertaken by even the most average of it employee? If you are Ive got a several hundred thousand dollar, dual version install, unused cluster fuck that I can point to right now that says 'nope'
I bet you treefiddy million bucks that there are more dedicated sharepoint consultant firms out there than postgres shops.... or did I just get trolled?
Nope. I hate HATE HATE the ribbon. I liked the tool bars because: 1) I could put them where I wanted (text formatting at the top, table stuff down the bottom) 2) I could easily customize or create my own specific tool bars 3) Toolbar's didn't appear/disappear depending on what the program thinks you are doing. 4) Using the drawing canvas was actually useful.
The Office tool bars give me serious RAGE when ever I have to use them at work. Ive actually installed libre office (against company policy) which I now use on the increasingly rare times I have to the document thing.
So? There is a reason the iPad doesn't ship with a users manual. It doesn't need one. I found it intuitive. I gave my mother my old iPad 1, she has used PC's running DOS/Windows since the late 80's and at first asked for the manual, told here there wasn't one and that she wouldn't need it, and 2 days later she agreed with me (via email, "sent from my iPad")...
Didn't need a manual. but didn't know how to turn off the 'sent from my Ipad' auto signature. nice.
You are correct about the corporate world though. For anyone whose primary use of computers is consumption of information the use of tablets is a no brainer*. For anyone that actually has to create anything its keyboard and mouse all the way baby.
I reckon tablets are an awesome extension of pooting, (the Ipad is just to locked down for my likings, but I'm liking the direction android is going).
(*must.. resist.. urge.. to apply sentiment to management types... damn, failed)
Really? Then how does any business in the world get off the ground? You can't exactly buy that $1M machine to turn out widgets when you're starting up...which is where LOANS come in.
Original poster already said that there was nothing wrong with 'temporary' borrowing to achieve a specific goal or cover an exceptional circumstance.
The problem is borrowing 1$M for the machine, then discovering it doesn't fit it your workshop, then borrowing another 1$M for a new workshop, then borrowing another 10$M to cover wages and advertising and then borrowing another 5$M to cover losses because the things you are making cost 3$ to make but you can only sell them for 2$.
The US Govt (and many others) seem to think that money does not matter and perpetual ever growing dept is fine. If this is the case then I want some to. People should give me what ever I want for ever and just keep store of how much I owe them because, well, because that's how the government seems to work and I want in too!
Clean coal will always be the major factor in any U.S. energy policy. Period.
Please stop ending your arguments with 'period'.
You are implying that your statement is the one and only definitive and correct end to the discussion. As the topic is about future event(s) this is a rather bold assumption; unless you have the super magic powers of the Oracle.
It also implies that you are not open to other points of view or consideration which is sad. By closing yourself off from alternative views and opinions you are removing most opportunities for growth and discovery.
How about: It is most likely that lean coal will be the major factor in any U.S. energy policy for the foreseeable future.
Vouchers? As in, tax payers money? As in the state is pays for the education? Just like... Public/State Schooling?
If the state is going to pay for it (because its deemed to be a state responsability) they should run it. Otherwise you end up with the shit house situation here in aus where the Private schools (as I am lead to understand, finding out this exact information is quite difficult) are funded 'per student' just as much, if not more, than their public (state) run counterpart, with the exception that they charge additonal fees on top and choose who they let in. Surprisingly these 'private' schools show quite good results.
In the end it seems people are just running around saying the government should pay for a private institution - which is just plain mad.
And here's a handy tip for you, if your walking along a path and see signs warning you of quicksand ahead, even though where you currently are is safe, it doesn't mean your wont go under when you continue onwards.
Freedoms a little bit like air, you don't notice it until its gone..
Science gave us mustard gas, involuntary sterilization, and nuclear weapons.
I think you will find that science gave you the recipes/tools for the first and last and than any bastard with a casual interest in reproduction can do the second.
So I would read your statement as "Faith tells us to/gives us reason to shun, kill & maim, science gives us the tools to do so efficiently"
And i think you will find its not 'faith' that people have a problem with - its the blind dogmatic faith that does not change (and turns violent & nasty) when confronted with contradictory evidence that is shit scarey.
What's the average CEO's pay? What's the average salary in any national sports league? What about a successful TV star? Movie star? Race car driver? Author? Put another way, what's the average salary for someone that made it to the TOP of their career?
Interesting that the entire list of super paid 'professions' don't actually produce anything tangible. (Ill Except arguments for authors though)
And lets face it, a front line worker who is good at their job, works their arse off and actually brings in the money/makes something will never earn as much as the person in management above them who spends their time trying to get more income out of their sub ordinates for less outgo.
I'm not sure that a statistical comparison is a good enough test of failure for a theory. Otherwise every theory could be amend with degree of accuracy "Gravity sucks 95% of the time"
Wouldn't a more acceptable test be to grab hundreds of batches of rapidly reproducing micro organism that are mortally susceptible to a given compound and give each batch the same regular dose of the poison over a long period of time: If the ID theory is correct, each batch should show the same types and rates of mutation as the 'invisible hand' does its work - whereas natural selection should result in a more random rates and types of mutations across our batches (or even extinction events in some of them).
Then some violently deranged gamer left a scrap of paper on a politicians doorstep in a threatening way
Stupid and dumb thing to do, but not a reflection on all gamers.
Just this week http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/02/3152798.htm one of our pollies coped a few death threats over the phone in relation to a new tax. If the action of one nutter can taint all gamers as violent killers, then that makes everyone weary of new taxes, or attempt to control carbon, violent killers as well.
It was a cheap ploy to garner sympathy that didn't work. The lack of R18 is the ultimate in political cynicism: The overwhelming majority is ok with it but probably wont effect their voting choice, the small nut bag religious hot button group WILL change their votes on it though so up yours everyone else - we want that potential.5%.
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His inability to not appear to be a raving madman insured that his message would be lost to the masses.
If no one listens, who cares if you are right or wrong?
That's the biggest cop out Ive heard in a long time.
The guy made some big calls and at the time most people pointed and laughed and cried 'bullshit, will never happen'
Then the crazy predictions started coming true and the prevailing attitude is 'ITS HIS FAULT CAUSE HE IS A CRAZY PEDANTIC ARSE HOLE'.
WTF?
Face it, the guy saw the unpossible happening and tried his best to stop/slow it and was ridiculed greatly for it.
Its like a perverse boy who cried wolf story where the villages ignore the boy in the first instance and then blame him when the wolf eats their sheep.
Well for the record I care that he was right and I care that I also didn't do enough to help.
PS: Stop saying 'it wont happen' because it is happening and by lumping everyone that expresses concern into a nice 'ignore the loony' bucket you are contributing to the fall of the empire.
I find this sort of thing rather amusing. You didn't trust closed source software...
So you download ten million or so lines of source code from some anonymous server, written by thousands of people you've never met and will never know. You then build it using even more software and libraries and tools running under yet another OS, and you then install it on hardware with its own BIOS and roms and controllers.
As opposed to purchasing software made up of millions of lines of codes, bits and pieces of which were outsourced to who knows where and full of pre compiled secret sauce binaries and a giant tangle of interdependent licensing agreements?
The way I see it, Its all about risk management.
Most companies don't have a problem with using off the shelf generic software - mainly because they can swap it out without seriously impacting their business.
But a western government spy agencies probably wont use Baido-GoldenCloudAllCom for their day to day note taking.
If software is a serious part of your business, you should have a team of people that know what they are doing looking after it for you. That team of people will have a much easier time of sorting things out when 'Shit goes bad' with an open/free stack that with a ton of sealed binaries and a priority support phone number.
If software is a just necessary expense (I just need word and email damit) then outsource the lot of it and keep it as a line item. This topic doesn't concern you.
Lets face it folks Linux isn't gonna save you a dime, not in the short or medium term anyway. You are gonna need more expensive Linux admins instead of dirt cheap MCSEs, you are gonna have to hire developers to code FOSS versions of any and all niche programs you have,
1> You should be hiring expensive well trained windows admins in the first place. OTOH It is perfectly feasible that a company can hire el-cheap got a piece of paper linux admin that can balls up their infrastructure just like the el-cheapo windows ones.
2> Just because your using FOSS software does not force all your apps to become FOSS software. If its a niche application you wont be distributing it so who cares what if its glp, if its not and you want to make money selling apps then pay for the non GPL versions of what ever your using just like in windows land.
I bet if you looked at their budget they probably haven't saved squat yet and possibly have even had the price go up as they have paid for all of the above that I listed
I think that if you looked closely and included *all* the ongoing support costs for the enterprisey things like sql server, oracle, sharepoint, SAP etc you start getting a massive savings boost. Admittedly this is all back end stuff, but that's were the big money is. (Mind you, at 50$ a year, 1000 machines almost gets you a full time employee)
I think you are being disingenuous as well by discounting the ongoing costs of licenses and support contracts. Those sorts of costs can hire you a lot of on site, first loyalty is to the company/department people.
Well, that's my interpretation. Sorry it's not a car analogy or a pizza analogy.
I thought Libraries Of Congress was the imperial analogical measurement of information.
I want to know exactly how many L.O.C. can your brain retain in short term memory when moving between rooms?
What if the rooms you are moving between are within the Library of Congress itself?
I'm a contractor that has spent most of my career 'on site' at various large institutions. Never less than 2 years at any one spot - the contract has always been extended even after the original work has been done.
I've seen "in-house" development groups come up with some of the nastiest, most byzantine pieces of crap-hackery you could possibly imagine
Very true, It you hire crap staff you will get crap results. Most of the places Ive worked had environments like this. In fact, its usually why I get called in ("ARGHH!! ITS ALL SHIIIIIIT FIX IT!!!!!!!")
But with vendor approaches, if you dislike the direction the project is heading, you can kill it, cut out the vendor, and move on to something you find more acceptable.
Hang on. Your saying that an IT department that is not capable of hiring even basically competent staff is some how magically able to contract and evaluate a 3rd party to meet their businesses needs?
That's rubbish.
The same lack of management competency that led to hiring crap staff will result in a crap outsourcing project.
If you have a good management layer, you will succeed regardless of outsourcing or in sourcing. If you have a continual need for X number of developers, why pay the over head of a contracting firm? Sure bring in people when you need to, but they should support your in house team not replace them.
I say if your big enough for an IT Department, your big enough for at least one full time developer. If you want to outsource, then walk the walk and outsource THE LOT (Includes all CIO and IT related management positions)
I'm not saying that any internal wizardry should be avoided -- but really when you develop internal solutions you should know what you are getting into, and know how long you are going to put up with it, especially when the remainder of the world moves on -- and leaves you behind the times. Also be VERY wary of what's termed "the lottery problem" or the "hit by a bus" problem -- as in, when the guru who put together your super awesome sales lead processing database / application stack that's central to your company making money doesn't show up at work anymore, what are you going to do? When the desktop machine that's responsible for keeping track of your development metrics is re-imaged by mistake, what do you do then? When the world's best custom-designed project tracker heads for the bit bucket with all the plans in it, what next? Hopefully these kinds of things can be identified and the little projects that grow into business critical services will be properly supported, but I've seen it go the wrong way quite a few times.
How does outsourcing solve this? What if the outsourcing companies only developer gets hit by that bus, or even the whole company burns down? What happens when they decide that the custom thingy built for you is no longer worth supporting and there's no end of life code hand over (but there is a new wiz bang product that they sell!)
The big dollars required for outsourcing contracts that properly* cover all the problems you mention will most likely solve them for you anyway.
*As in actually account for them as apposed to 'well, they said they did, amazing considering the price'
The job length of a well paid and respected employee is far longer than your typical product life cycle.
3 years into a 3 month contracting stint and having witnessed at 50% turnaround of the permanent staff I disagree with the sentiment if not the letter of your point. There is always something else that needs doing and the long term position is a thing of the past.
If you business is small enough to warrant a single product only then I'm thinking that the requirements are small enough for something of the shelf. (Why outsource?)
If your business is big enough for a custom jobby (or 'configured' enterprisy solution) then its probably big enough to support one or two developers. If your budget cant support that then it sure as hell cant support getting into bed with a large outsourced 'solution'.
In my own experience it boils down the to quality and competency on the managers in charge. If someone cant manage productivity and deadlines with staff that directly reports to (and can be fired by) them, they wont be able to manage an outsourced company or project either.
you are kidding right? Have a look at the stats for the humble bundle releases some time. Linux users are more than willing to hand over the cash for pew pew's.
When will there be a candid talke and recognition that Israel is more often the villain and things should be set right?
When you can get more than one person in a room to have a discussion that does not apply words like 'villain' or 'innocent' to either side (both having a long history of inflicting nasty deeds and suffering on the other).
How abut charging bankers with the crimes they have committed.
They cant be charged with any crimes because technically they have not committed any. Any the apparent reason for the technically is that they managed to have the laws changed (GS repeal amongst others) due to intense lobbying and donations to BOTH parties.
That's were a lot of frustration is coming from. The massive inequalities between big corp and regular joe. Just because its lawful doesn't make it right.
Yes, they should just continue allowing competitors to copy their small range of products verbatim!
I do not think this word means what you think it means.
The the product that you statement is based on, whilst very similar does not: Weigh the exactly the same, have exactly the same dimensions, have exactly the inputs or have exactly the same operating system as the ipad.
Instead of suing, apple should be using it to their advantage "Look at the crappy imitators, apple original is bestest!!1!"
Plus the USA has its election next year, so inevitably the pork barrel will come out. No doubt that will add a couple of digits to the user/revenue/ebitda mulitple that Facebook will be valued at.
No it wont. Remember the politicians promised to reduce spending, they even have a bipartisan committee and everything. In fact, I understand your guys are so committed to this that a certain ratings agency is being put through the wringer for suggesting otherwise..
I recently spent several hours training some office 2003 users to do fairly basic stuff in office 2010.
Like what?
my 2 time sucking rage building ribbon hates:
* Table editing in Design mode there is no font/alignment options. In Home mode you loose border color/size options. Moving into a table sometime shows different ribbon.
* Drawing Canvas: In Format mode, no font tools. In Home mode, no drawing tools.
Yes I can select text, hover and and wait for the floating toolbar to appear. Yes I can fill my title bar up with all the friken buttons I need. I DON'T CARE I WANT MY TOOL BARS BACK!
Seriously, why not offer a choice between ribbon and classic and make everyone happy? WHY WHY WHY WHY!
This is an extremely good point - Sharepoint is fairly obviously the future, and I imagine in a few years many companies won't even run a vanilla SMB fileserver. Which should be just in time for Samba 4 to come out.
What? You first post derides 'free' software due to the need for and costs of the bevy of expensive consultants to come in and set things up for you - and then you point at Sharepoint as being the way of the future.
Are you seriously going to stand up hand over heart and say properly installing, configuring and using that beast is a point and click operation that can be undertaken by even the most average of it employee? If you are Ive got a several hundred thousand dollar, dual version install, unused cluster fuck that I can point to right now that says 'nope'
I bet you treefiddy million bucks that there are more dedicated sharepoint consultant firms out there than postgres shops. ... or did I just get trolled?
Nope. I hate HATE HATE the ribbon. I liked the tool bars because:
1) I could put them where I wanted (text formatting at the top, table stuff down the bottom)
2) I could easily customize or create my own specific tool bars
3) Toolbar's didn't appear/disappear depending on what the program thinks you are doing.
4) Using the drawing canvas was actually useful.
The Office tool bars give me serious RAGE when ever I have to use them at work. Ive actually installed libre office (against company policy) which I now use on the increasingly rare times I have to the document thing.
So? There is a reason the iPad doesn't ship with a users manual. It doesn't need one. I found it intuitive. I gave my mother my old iPad 1, she has used PC's running DOS/Windows since the late 80's and at first asked for the manual, told here there wasn't one and that she wouldn't need it, and 2 days later she agreed with me (via email, "sent from my iPad")...
Didn't need a manual. but didn't know how to turn off the 'sent from my Ipad' auto signature. nice.
You are correct about the corporate world though. For anyone whose primary use of computers is consumption of information the use of tablets is a no brainer*. For anyone that actually has to create anything its keyboard and mouse all the way baby.
I reckon tablets are an awesome extension of pooting, (the Ipad is just to locked down for my likings, but I'm liking the direction android is going).
(*must.. resist.. urge.. to apply sentiment to management types... damn, failed)
It's better to spend less than you have. Period.
Really? Then how does any business in the world get off the ground? You can't exactly buy that $1M machine to turn out widgets when you're starting up...which is where LOANS come in.
Original poster already said that there was nothing wrong with 'temporary' borrowing to achieve a specific goal or cover an exceptional circumstance.
The problem is borrowing 1$M for the machine, then discovering it doesn't fit it your workshop, then borrowing another 1$M for a new workshop, then borrowing another 10$M to cover wages and advertising and then borrowing another 5$M to cover losses because the things you are making cost 3$ to make but you can only sell them for 2$.
The US Govt (and many others) seem to think that money does not matter and perpetual ever growing dept is fine. If this is the case then I want some to. People should give me what ever I want for ever and just keep store of how much I owe them because, well, because that's how the government seems to work and I want in too!
[off topic]
Clean coal will always be the major factor in any U.S. energy policy. Period.
Please stop ending your arguments with 'period'.
You are implying that your statement is the one and only definitive and correct end to the discussion. As the topic is about future event(s) this is a rather bold assumption; unless you have the super magic powers of the Oracle.
It also implies that you are not open to other points of view or consideration which is sad. By closing yourself off from alternative views and opinions you are removing most opportunities for growth and discovery.
How about:
It is most likely that lean coal will be the major factor in any U.S. energy policy for the foreseeable future.
Vouchers? As in, tax payers money? As in the state is pays for the education? Just like... Public/State Schooling?
If the state is going to pay for it (because its deemed to be a state responsability) they should run it. Otherwise you end up with the shit house situation here in aus where the Private schools (as I am lead to understand, finding out this exact information is quite difficult) are funded 'per student' just as much, if not more, than their public (state) run counterpart, with the exception that they charge additonal fees on top and choose who they let in. Surprisingly these 'private' schools show quite good results.
In the end it seems people are just running around saying the government should pay for a private institution - which is just plain mad.
Slashdot - Be a dupe.
And here's a handy tip for you, if your walking along a path and see signs warning you of quicksand ahead, even though where you currently are is safe, it doesn't mean your wont go under when you continue onwards.
Freedoms a little bit like air, you don't notice it until its gone..
Science gave us mustard gas, involuntary sterilization, and nuclear weapons.
I think you will find that science gave you the recipes/tools for the first and last and than any bastard with a casual interest in reproduction can do the second.
So I would read your statement as "Faith tells us to/gives us reason to shun, kill & maim, science gives us the tools to do so efficiently"
And i think you will find its not 'faith' that people have a problem with - its the blind dogmatic faith that does not change (and turns violent & nasty) when confronted with contradictory evidence that is shit scarey.
What's the average CEO's pay? What's the average salary in any national sports league? What about a successful TV star? Movie star? Race car driver? Author? Put another way, what's the average salary for someone that made it to the TOP of their career?
Interesting that the entire list of super paid 'professions' don't actually produce anything tangible. (Ill Except arguments for authors though)
And lets face it, a front line worker who is good at their job, works their arse off and actually brings in the money/makes something will never earn as much as the person in management above them who spends their time trying to get more income out of their sub ordinates for less outgo.
I'm not sure that a statistical comparison is a good enough test of failure for a theory. Otherwise every theory could be amend with degree of accuracy "Gravity sucks 95% of the time"
Wouldn't a more acceptable test be to grab hundreds of batches of rapidly reproducing micro organism that are mortally susceptible to a given compound and give each batch the same regular dose of the poison over a long period of time: If the ID theory is correct, each batch should show the same types and rates of mutation as the 'invisible hand' does its work - whereas natural selection should result in a more random rates and types of mutations across our batches (or even extinction events in some of them).
Then some violently deranged gamer left a scrap of paper on a politicians doorstep in a threatening way
Stupid and dumb thing to do, but not a reflection on all gamers.
Just this week http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/02/3152798.htm one of our pollies coped a few death threats over the phone in relation to a new tax. If the action of one nutter can taint all gamers as violent killers, then that makes everyone weary of new taxes, or attempt to control carbon, violent killers as well.
It was a cheap ploy to garner sympathy that didn't work. The lack of R18 is the ultimate in political cynicism: The overwhelming majority is ok with it but probably wont effect their voting choice, the small nut bag religious hot button group WILL change their votes on it though so up yours everyone else - we want that potential .5%.