Like I said, I'm just a user, I have no idea how the system works. I'm not interested to know how electricity works in my office, nor how a normal phone call goes through to the callee.
But funny, they all work doesn't it?:-)
I do know everytime the networks' no good, the network admin gets on the mobile (cell) to the providers, and it's usually problem on their side.
It seems the only "necessary" service that always goes up and down is either the internet, or the ip phone system. I never hear about normal phones not working, or there's no water in the office.
I work in a company with IP phone system. While it's good for long distance calls to branches in other cities (pay local call rates), the overall system has let us down many times.
I'm not sure whether it's that this particular service provider is no good, or whether the service itself is still unproven.
Anyway, just remember when the phone doesn't work, your internet also doesn't work.
No phone calls & no emails - might as well go to the bar. Phones and emails are almost at the core of most businesses now, they are expected to be always working (like electricity in the building), and when they don't work, the managers get really upset.
Anyway, I don't know who (this person is probably no longer with us) got the company to use IP phones, but they have mentioned many times how much they hate the system.
Good luck. May be services in your area are much better.
a couple of guys walked into our office (software shop) to try to sell a compaq laptop. We wrote them a company cheque, but when they discover they couldn't cash the check (I think you need to deposit into an account), they returned to ask for cash instead.
Someone in the office called compaq and had the s/n checked - it was stolen. So the accounts lady delayed them a bit - tell them we're waiting for some transaction in the bank to go through, and they went downstairs for some drinks.
anyway, police came and hid in the office, when they returned the police jumped on them. all three were caught.
laptop was probably used as evidence to trial the criminals, but I'd assume it was eventually returned to the owner.
this is Sydney Australia - roughly 4 years ago. anyway, I heard this from my boss & couple of guys working here when it happened. I was not in this company at the time.
.NET can compile down to the native image for your current CPU.
Check out ngen.exe - it's part of your.NET runtime installation.
I'm certain that if.NET was to be used in an OS and performance is required, a simple command line would be all that's necessary to turn.NET code into a lower level binary. This can be easily done when you install the OS (like when you install.NET, I think all.NET runtime are compiled with ngen as part of the installation)
> if you subscribe to MSDN or some other microsoft money scheme, you can read the documentation. Well, users should have access to that if they so want.
MSDN is free to read online.
If you want the entire MSDN help files on the user's computer pre-installed, they'd need to take up about 2GB+ additional space.
Or if you want to save your bandwidth, you can order a DVD pretty cheap.
> UNIX programmers say: Nonsense! You are a programmer right? Then write a program or API that does what you want.
You need to consider: 1. How much is this going to cost. 2. How much do we really need this.
If it can't be easily done, and it's going to cost quite a bit, or if we can work around it, is rewriting our own drivers the right thing to do?
What if management changed their mind tomorrow and decides we don't really need this piece of code anyway.
Personally, I hardly say something can't be done. But usually something SHOULDN'T be done.
Exactly what I thought regarding the "panel of leading security experts".
Turned out to be a company I have to google to figure out what they do...
That aside, here's some more food for thought:
When there is a dominant OS, then all kinds of cracks, virus, exploits are target against it. So in that sense, using alternatives would help somewhat.
Yet, if there were Linux and Windows systems within my network, doesn't this mean that I now have to worry about both sets of patches? This translates to more expensive staff or skillsets required. Software after all, is cheaper than people.
Aside from patching, there isn't really much that can be done with security holes that are discovered. And as many people have pointed out - it's not possible to write bug/hole-free software (and let's say Operating System software and something more complex and advanced than just DOS).
Altogether, I'd think it's easier to just keep to what you currently have (be it Linux or Windows), and keep it patched up. Honestly other alternatives are just a bit too expensive to think about.
It comes down via Windows Update, also if you sell your product on CD or deploy your application manually to your clients, you can always include the.NET redistributable (25mb is nothing on a CD) with it.
Expect newer versions of Windows to come pre-installed with.NET CLR. (Given that they don't install the Java VM by default on Windows XP already, I can almost smell another lawsuit coming).
Source please. What sort of blanket comment is this? What are you comparing it with? (trying not to start a flame, let's look at each sentence constructively)
> Is it faster? No
Yes, compared to Sun's Java VM. Gosh I loved Java, but I just hated how slow it was. (oh uh flame-war warning)
> Is Development Faster ? No
Are we comparing with C? What sort of application are you referring to? Are IDEs taken into account? (You might need to take your comment back if VS.NET is in the equation)
> Is it cross platform ? No
It depends on what you are doing. If you don't use certain APIs that aren't available on other platforms, you're probably ok. But isn't this the case with all other languages and technologies to a certain degree?
> Does it do things that other languages cannot? No
Sure you can always write everything in C or even in assembly language. But really, we don't work that way.
> Is it Encumbered By Patents? Yes
On this one, my gut feeling is the same as yours, but I don't see anything solid yet. (I'm probably more naive than some).
> Sure makes me want to use it....
If you work on the MS platform only, this is the best thing since... well, ever.
It is free also for IIS, but only works on static pages, not dynamically generated ones.
I think it is off by default, and considering the number of static pages we have comparing to dynamically generated ones, there's not much point.
(I guess it probably would help with the images though).
Anyway, ISA sits in front and I assume would do some of the work too.
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Yes, it really should be done using the Quake 3 engine, or the UT2 Engine.
They are optimized, allows for different levels of connection stability (and speed), and encryption prevents people hacking it too (Just my speculation).
Excellent for intranet application services.
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The OS - Windows 2000 or Windows XP isn't free.
The ASP.NET (application server) certainly is.
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Honestly I think learning a new language (VB.NET) is the best thing that can happen to VB.
VB is outdated, there are so many things that can and should be done better.
Anyway, it's not like you can't talk to your old projects, people assume that they must upgrade their entire solution to VB.NET and spend the time converting - and thus it's such a pain, etc.
I found it easier to just call the VB/COM objects via Interop and only write the new stuff in.NET.
There's McAfee for Hotmail already. I don't know what the exact deal is between the two companies, but it felt like a good two-way deal. Hotmail gets anti virus protection, and McAfee gets free link.
Given that this is a working system/relationship for quite some time, I don't see why there's a reason to change anything.
Consider a country like Japan, or Korea, or Taiwan, where the population is dense, and the language is specific to that region or country.
A normal (J/K/T) kid would hardly use English, there's simply no reason to try to get something from a US website. Ie, most of the broadband traffic stays WITHIN the country. That is, you can practically lay lots and lots of cable and treat the whole country as a very large LAN network.
In Australia (where I'm at), most of the web searches ends up at at America. You surf the net and ends up in America, and the data has to be carried over fiber optic cables across the pacific ocean. That costs $$$.
It makes sense now doesn't it. That broadband prices will always be cheaper in certain parts of the world.
I expect it would be a similar case in UK. Or may be Europe.
I also suspect that the model they used is not applicable to the rest of the world, and the kiwis may have sorted out a better solution citylink/wellington
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Because it won't be nerd enough.
.. throwing several flavours of linux distros ...
/.
/. effect on your machine.
You've got to have:
Mandrake running
on PowerPC
on PearPC simulator
on Virtual PC
on VMWare
on XBox
on
To get be reported on
The trick then, is to withstand the
And take a screenshot of the smoking machine.
Then you get the "Immortal" rating.
Then, just may be, you can get rooted.
But those missiles would then be a lot easier to spot in the night.
5...
6. Profit!
Well.
Solving those problems doesn't pay.
Solving piracy is different.
Australian money is plastic.
Mental note: no more fooling around with gf in the corner of the cinema. People are watching.
> All that extra graphic manipulation comes at a price, and I for one don't see any reason to waste processor cycles
What's your graphics card doing?
Like I said, I'm just a user, I have no idea how the system works. I'm not interested to know how electricity works in my office, nor how a normal phone call goes through to the callee.
:-)
But funny, they all work doesn't it?
I do know everytime the networks' no good, the network admin gets on the mobile (cell) to the providers, and it's usually problem on their side.
It seems the only "necessary" service that always goes up and down is either the internet, or the ip phone system. I never hear about normal phones not working, or there's no water in the office.
I work in a company with IP phone system. While it's good for long distance calls to branches in other cities (pay local call rates), the overall system has let us down many times.
I'm not sure whether it's that this particular service provider is no good, or whether the service itself is still unproven.
Anyway, just remember when the phone doesn't work, your internet also doesn't work.
No phone calls & no emails - might as well go to the bar.
Phones and emails are almost at the core of most businesses now, they are expected to be always working (like electricity in the building), and when they don't work, the managers get really upset.
Anyway, I don't know who (this person is probably no longer with us) got the company to use IP phones, but they have mentioned many times how much they hate the system.
Good luck. May be services in your area are much better.
similar experience I heard.
a couple of guys walked into our office (software shop) to try to sell a compaq laptop. We wrote them a company cheque, but when they discover they couldn't cash the check (I think you need to deposit into an account), they returned to ask for cash instead.
Someone in the office called compaq and had the s/n checked - it was stolen. So the accounts lady delayed them a bit - tell them we're waiting for some transaction in the bank to go through, and they went downstairs for some drinks.
anyway, police came and hid in the office, when they returned the police jumped on them. all three were caught.
laptop was probably used as evidence to trial the criminals, but I'd assume it was eventually returned to the owner.
this is Sydney Australia - roughly 4 years ago. anyway, I heard this from my boss & couple of guys working here when it happened. I was not in this company at the time.
.NET can compile down to the native image for your current CPU.
.NET runtime installation.
.NET was to be used in an OS and performance is required, a simple command line would be all that's necessary to turn .NET code into a lower level binary. This can be easily done when you install the OS (like when you install .NET, I think all .NET runtime are compiled with ngen as part of the installation)
Check out ngen.exe - it's part of your
I'm certain that if
I kind of agree, this kind of business practice doesn't really sound all that different from most other re-curring credit card charges.
When I change ISP, I have to give them 3 months prior notice (because I pay quarterly), it seems to be the same deal.
Sucks I know, but I don't think there's really a legal response.
Clearing up some biased points.
> if you subscribe to MSDN or some other microsoft money scheme, you can read the documentation. Well, users should have access to that if they so want.
MSDN is free to read online.
If you want the entire MSDN help files on the user's computer pre-installed, they'd need to take up about 2GB+ additional space.
Or if you want to save your bandwidth, you can order a DVD pretty cheap.
> UNIX programmers say: Nonsense! You are a programmer right? Then write a program or API that does what you want.
You need to consider:
1. How much is this going to cost.
2. How much do we really need this.
If it can't be easily done, and it's going to cost quite a bit, or if we can work around it, is rewriting our own drivers the right thing to do?
What if management changed their mind tomorrow and decides we don't really need this piece of code anyway.
Personally, I hardly say something can't be done. But usually something SHOULDN'T be done.
jliu
Exactly what I thought regarding the "panel of leading security experts".
Turned out to be a company I have to google to figure out what they do...
That aside, here's some more food for thought:
When there is a dominant OS, then all kinds of cracks, virus, exploits are target against it. So in that sense, using alternatives would help somewhat.
Yet, if there were Linux and Windows systems within my network, doesn't this mean that I now have to worry about both sets of patches? This translates to more expensive staff or skillsets required. Software after all, is cheaper than people.
Aside from patching, there isn't really much that can be done with security holes that are discovered. And as many people have pointed out - it's not possible to write bug/hole-free software (and let's say Operating System software and something more complex and advanced than just DOS).
Altogether, I'd think it's easier to just keep to what you currently have (be it Linux or Windows), and keep it patched up. Honestly other alternatives are just a bit too expensive to think about.
3 things I thought of:
Wheel of Fortune
Scrabble
Hang-man
English is not my native language, but I still was able to read it quite easily.
When you say fluent, how fluent? (I've used English over 12 years in a non-Asian country).
It comes down via Windows Update, also if you sell your product on CD or deploy your application manually to your clients, you can always include the .NET redistributable (25mb is nothing on a CD) with it.
.NET CLR. (Given that they don't install the Java VM by default on Windows XP already, I can almost smell another lawsuit coming).
Expect newer versions of Windows to come pre-installed with
Source please.
What sort of blanket comment is this? What are you comparing it with? (trying not to start a flame, let's look at each sentence constructively)
> Is it faster? No
Yes, compared to Sun's Java VM. Gosh I loved Java, but I just hated how slow it was. (oh uh flame-war warning)
> Is Development Faster ? No
Are we comparing with C? What sort of application are you referring to? Are IDEs taken into account? (You might need to take your comment back if VS.NET is in the equation)
> Is it cross platform ? No
It depends on what you are doing. If you don't use certain APIs that aren't available on other platforms, you're probably ok. But isn't this the case with all other languages and technologies to a certain degree?
> Does it do things that other languages cannot? No
Sure you can always write everything in C or even in assembly language. But really, we don't work that way.
> Is it Encumbered By Patents? Yes
On this one, my gut feeling is the same as yours, but I don't see anything solid yet. (I'm probably more naive than some).
> Sure makes me want to use it....
If you work on the MS platform only, this is the best thing since... well, ever.
It is free also for IIS, but only works on static pages, not dynamically generated ones.
I think it is off by default, and considering the number of static pages we have comparing to dynamically generated ones, there's not much point.
(I guess it probably would help with the images though).
Anyway, ISA sits in front and I assume would do some of the work too.
Yes, it really should be done using the Quake 3 engine, or the UT2 Engine.
They are optimized, allows for different levels of connection stability (and speed), and encryption prevents people hacking it too (Just my speculation).
Excellent for intranet application services.
The OS - Windows 2000 or Windows XP isn't free.
The ASP.NET (application server) certainly is.
Honestly I think learning a new language (VB.NET) is the best thing that can happen to VB.
.NET.
VB is outdated, there are so many things that can and should be done better.
Anyway, it's not like you can't talk to your old projects, people assume that they must upgrade their entire solution to VB.NET and spend the time converting - and thus it's such a pain, etc.
I found it easier to just call the VB/COM objects via Interop and only write the new stuff in
There's McAfee for Hotmail already. I don't know what the exact deal is between the two companies, but it felt like a good two-way deal. Hotmail gets anti virus protection, and McAfee gets free link.
Given that this is a working system/relationship for quite some time, I don't see why there's a reason to change anything.
Consider a country like Japan, or Korea, or Taiwan, where the population is dense, and the language is specific to that region or country.
A normal (J/K/T) kid would hardly use English, there's simply no reason to try to get something from a US website. Ie, most of the broadband traffic stays WITHIN the country. That is, you can practically lay lots and lots of cable and treat the whole country as a very large LAN network.
In Australia (where I'm at), most of the web searches ends up at at America. You surf the net and ends up in America, and the data has to be carried over fiber optic cables across the pacific ocean. That costs $$$.
It makes sense now doesn't it. That broadband prices will always be cheaper in certain parts of the world.
I expect it would be a similar case in UK. Or may be Europe.
I also suspect that the model they used is not applicable to the rest of the world, and the kiwis may have sorted out a better solution citylink/wellington
jliu
When MS tried to make Java COM/MFC interoperable, Sun sued them. That's why there's now
jliu