Anyway, my point is. Just because everyone else is using a non-standard proprietary format doesn't make it right.
Would you cut off your nose to spite your face? i.e. would you use a standard non-proprietary format to make yourself feel good even though it meant you couldn't interact with anyone else?
Most people won't - they need to do their job, not fight some petty non-existant OS-choice battle.
People are stupid. It's the biggest obstacle to Linux.
What a truly ignorant point of view. Boo hooo, the public don't understand how to use Linux, that's their fault. No - if Linux wants to successful on the desktop, it needs to satisfy the public's needs. If it's being written by a load of arrogant wankers (which I'm not saying it is) who think the public are 'stupid' for what they want, then it is toast.
The fact that we have undermined a terrorist network and overturned a repressive government in weeks, with only a handful of American casualties, has transformed the way even Americans think of technology.
I think this is called 'having aeroplanes whilst the other side have camels' - not really much to do about high technology - the Wright brothers would have kicked their ass.
Unless of course, Rob and company are trying to broaden the/. fanbase by cheapening the discourse to bring in Joe and Jane Sixpack. A word to the wise, don't bother, they only use the 'net to surf for porn.
Ha, where s Joe BlubberArse and Jane NoTits have no need to surf the net for porn, since they have such a complete sex life chatting to other nerds on the net.
What are the ramifications? The brain must have some sort of internal gravitation model."
Er, no, maybe it has some capacity to learn the way things move, which surprisingly, after 30-odd years of the same observed behaviour, proves a little hard to unlearn.
The ramifications? Well, people are going to, like have to, like, train for the new environment! Quick, call the cops!
If they put some thought into it they could get what they want... Modularity.. Make it possible for me to buy video-ram, system ram, make add-on's available, granted that makes the "all systems are the same" for the programmers go out the window... but if I had the ability to switch from standard video chipset to the ultra-insane-fast $399.95 video upgrade option that adds the physics module for jiggley breats to the fighters in virtua fighter 73, then dammit I'll buy it!
Don't be a dick. That's called a PC. Consoles are successful because they're based on a static hardware platform.
is obviously the way forward. They can link them through the new Wireless networks that are propagating all over the US - won't that be an exciting prospect!
Silicon Valley was the place to be and could well be again. Being around all those other hardcore developers in the late 80's and early 90's, was so exciting and brilliant for my professional and personal development.
We also had some great parties out there - anyone go to those - bet you've all got some great stories.
My guess is that the "poor sales" they referred to were actually poor sales of Windows (ie. only 99% of Dell PCs were shipping with Windows, as opposed to the 100% that is required in Gates's "competitive marketplace").
Er, no, my guess is that the poor sales referred to linux boxes, as stated originally.
Jesus - since when has pointing out spelling mistakes been 'funny'? I can't believe Seinfeld spent all those years writing his 'funny' show when he could have entertained several million geeks by pointing out spelling mistakes in everyday publications...
If its weightlessnes you are after, wouldn't it be a damn sight cheeper just to put a plane into a dive and float arround for a bit..... as in an astronoughts training.
Hmm, yeah, maybe except using that method, you only get 10 seconds at a time of weightlessness, which, even if you've just met the girl, is not enough time to reach the 'mile high, and floating in mid-air club'. Any guy knows that 3 minutes is plenty of time to do that and try weightless cigarette smoking...
Re:I am not "stealing" a damn thing.
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>>SHow me the insurance payouts for the cds "stolen" out of the warehouses. Yes, ive got some songs that i doidnt by the cd for, but they are music i souldnt have bought anyway
a) Thanks for proving my original point. I don't care whether you would have bought it anyway. If you haven't paid, you can't listen, that's how it works.
>>Any music that i get the whole cd of the net, i send the artis 5 bucks from fairtunes, so i dont feel that im doing anything the least bit wrong.
So DON'T BUY IT. That's your right. It is NOT your right to go out and steal this stuff you feel is overpriced. If everyone decides similar, prices come down. If everyone doesn't, prices stay the same. If a significant minority go out and steal, prices go up.
I can produce audio tracks in my basement with the same fidelity with less than $10k worth of equipment now; I can burn CDs and distribute myself; I can HIRE my own advertising agency and yet still retain the rights to my own music without the interference of these media conglomerates.
So you go and sign up those big bands with your magical facilities and sell your CD's for a dollar fifty.
But can anything keep geeks from copying the music and movies they crave?
And can anyone persuade them that what they are doing is wrong. I guess the mass Napster / copied movie yada yada and the general opinion on here that it should be allowed shows that anyone will be a criminal if they feel they can get away with it. The/. geeks may not have the balls to go and rip off a CD from a store but let them download the MP3's from the net in their sweaty rooms and there's no stopping them. Human nature eh?
I wonder how much code there will be in the software handling this file system which reports back to M$ what your browsing habits are, or maybe there will be measures to prevent you making back up copies of copyrighted materials.
I see already I've been modded to troll whilst this is 'interesting'. Well, surprise surprise. Did you even think before going on like the broken record you Linux zealots are? yaaa yaaa Windows is bad, M$ is bad yaaaa yaaa.
>>browsing habits yada yada
This is a file system. Browsing habits generally refers to the internet, which is not on your file system, its on someone elses. Do microsoft want a big database with what everyone accesses on their local disk? Do they fuck.
>>maybe there will be measures to prevent you making back up copies of copyrighted materials.
You know what? Maybe there will. Because you don't really want the right 'back up' your copyrighted materials do you? No, you want to rip them off and email them to your mates. Well, if all you 'free free free' assholes continue to behave like this - what happens? Either people give up selling things, or they tax EVERYONE for your asshole behaviour (see Canadian CD tax thing the other day).
Or maybe it'll have none of this bullshit that you just made up whilst slowly rubbing your 1-inch weiner against your unused 'Programming for Linux' handbook.
All one needs to do is to sell re-writables with pre-recorded free music from struggling artists?
I'll gladly pay a levy on that if the money actually goes to the struggling artists...
Surely you contradicted yourself here? 'I see a loophole, if we sell em with music on no levy - I'd gladly pay that levy!'
Nice to see a bit of the usual slash as well - oh yeah, I'll *pay* for struggling artists, but successful ones can stick it, I'll just steal their stuff!
I get the authors point, but I don't think he makes it well..
No one speaks of subroutines that cp themselves through undocumented remote procedure calls because talk of 'computer viruses' carries all of the portent and weight of polio, anthrax, German Measles and tuberculosis.
Yeah, no-one speaks of the exact way all these illness viruses work either since it's easy to abstract it out to a simple term 'virus'/
Well, you said your software was for Linux, so calling the people who might have written the kernel 'half-wits' is a shade hypocritical..
And exactly what percentage of Linux users have 'written' the kernel? Some Windows users wrote the kernel for that, can we not call them half-wits either?
Umm, the AI lab already had their computers. We might have paid for them to set up, but we probably didn't pay much extra for RMS to work there. Same with most people. If you already have a computer, you don't need to pay for it.
A market stall-holder would be a pretty mean bastard if he complained about someone taking a grape before paying for it wouldn't he? But what if everyone did it? What if the labs are full of people using the computers, so no-one more entitled can use them?
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Anyway, my point is. Just because everyone else is using a non-standard proprietary format doesn't make it right.
Would you cut off your nose to spite your face? i.e. would you use a standard non-proprietary format to make yourself feel good even though it meant you couldn't interact with anyone else?
Most people won't - they need to do their job, not fight some petty non-existant OS-choice battle.
People are stupid. It's the biggest obstacle to Linux.
What a truly ignorant point of view. Boo hooo, the public don't understand how to use Linux, that's their fault. No - if Linux wants to successful on the desktop, it needs to satisfy the public's needs. If it's being written by a load of arrogant wankers (which I'm not saying it is) who think the public are 'stupid' for what they want, then it is toast.
On the behalf of the general public, fuck you.
The fact that we have undermined a terrorist network and overturned a repressive government in weeks, with only a handful of American casualties, has transformed the way even Americans think of technology.
I think this is called 'having aeroplanes whilst the other side have camels' - not really much to do about high technology - the Wright brothers would have kicked their ass.
Thankyou for granting us our rights oh wise one.
In case you don't realise, I'm being sarcastic, you dumb fuck.
You beat me to it -- in fact, you used the exact subject I was going to use. :)
:).
I think it's because our brains have some form of 'slashdot post subject writing model' - the fact we both came up with the same idea *proves* it
Unless of course, Rob and company are trying to broaden the /. fanbase by cheapening the discourse to bring in Joe and Jane Sixpack. A word to the wise, don't bother, they only use the 'net to surf for porn.
Ha, where s Joe BlubberArse and Jane NoTits have no need to surf the net for porn, since they have such a complete sex life chatting to other nerds on the net.
Joe Sixpack.
What are the ramifications? The brain must have some sort of internal gravitation model."
Er, no, maybe it has some capacity to learn the way things move, which surprisingly, after 30-odd years of the same observed behaviour, proves a little hard to unlearn.
The ramifications? Well, people are going to, like have to, like, train for the new environment! Quick, call the cops!
Normally I don't feel anyone should burn in hell, but he's up there with Hitler as far as I'm concerned.
Are you *sure*? As a Jew, I am horribly offended by your thoughtless turn of phrase.
If they put some thought into it they could get what they want... Modularity.. Make it possible for me to buy video-ram, system ram, make add-on's available, granted that makes the "all systems are the same" for the programmers go out the window... but if I had the ability to switch from standard video chipset to the ultra-insane-fast $399.95 video upgrade option that adds the physics module for jiggley breats to the fighters in virtua fighter 73, then dammit I'll buy it!
Don't be a dick. That's called a PC. Consoles are successful because they're based on a static hardware platform.
is obviously the way forward. They can link them through the new Wireless networks that are propagating all over the US - won't that be an exciting prospect!
Silicon Valley was the place to be and could well be again. Being around all those other hardcore developers in the late 80's and early 90's, was so exciting and brilliant for my professional and personal development.
We also had some great parties out there - anyone go to those - bet you've all got some great stories.
My guess is that the "poor sales" they referred to were actually poor sales of Windows (ie. only 99% of Dell PCs were shipping with Windows, as opposed to the 100% that is required in Gates's "competitive marketplace").
Er, no, my guess is that the poor sales referred to linux boxes, as stated originally.
Jesus - since when has pointing out spelling mistakes been 'funny'? I can't believe Seinfeld spent all those years writing his 'funny' show when he could have entertained several million geeks by pointing out spelling mistakes in everyday publications...
Making a cheap-ass joke: $0
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Getting it fundamentally wrong: Priceless
;-) - sorry man.
If its weightlessnes you are after, wouldn't it be a damn sight cheeper just to put a plane into a dive and float arround for a bit..... as in an astronoughts training.
Hmm, yeah, maybe except using that method, you only get 10 seconds at a time of weightlessness, which, even if you've just met the girl, is not enough time to reach the 'mile high, and floating in mid-air club'. Any guy knows that 3 minutes is plenty of time to do that and try weightless cigarette smoking...
how flat it your chest?
Must be a geek chick....
>>SHow me the insurance payouts for the cds "stolen" out of the warehouses. Yes, ive got some songs that i doidnt by the cd for, but they are music i souldnt have bought anyway
a) Thanks for proving my original point. I don't care whether you would have bought it anyway. If you haven't paid, you can't listen, that's how it works.
>>Any music that i get the whole cd of the net, i send the artis 5 bucks from fairtunes, so i dont feel that im doing anything the least bit wrong.
b) Bollocks you do.
So DON'T BUY IT. That's your right. It is NOT your right to go out and steal this stuff you feel is overpriced. If everyone decides similar, prices come down. If everyone doesn't, prices stay the same. If a significant minority go out and steal, prices go up.
I can produce audio tracks in my basement with the same fidelity with less than $10k worth of equipment now; I can burn CDs and distribute myself; I can HIRE my own advertising agency and yet still retain the rights to my own music without the interference of these media conglomerates.
So you go and sign up those big bands with your magical facilities and sell your CD's for a dollar fifty.
But can anything keep geeks from copying the music and movies they crave?
/. geeks may not have the balls to go and rip off a CD from a store but let them download the MP3's from the net in their sweaty rooms and there's no stopping them. Human nature eh?
And can anyone persuade them that what they are doing is wrong. I guess the mass Napster / copied movie yada yada and the general opinion on here that it should be allowed shows that anyone will be a criminal if they feel they can get away with it. The
Assuming you have a command prompt.
And which version of windows exactly doesn't have a command prompt? Or are we living in bizarro zealot world again?
I wonder how much code there will be in the software handling this file system which reports back to M$ what your browsing habits are, or maybe there will be measures to prevent you making back up copies of copyrighted materials.
I see already I've been modded to troll whilst this is 'interesting'. Well, surprise surprise. Did you even think before going on like the broken record you Linux zealots are? yaaa yaaa Windows is bad, M$ is bad yaaaa yaaa.
>>browsing habits yada yada
This is a file system. Browsing habits generally refers to the internet, which is not on your file system, its on someone elses. Do microsoft want a big database with what everyone accesses on their local disk? Do they fuck.
>>maybe there will be measures to prevent you making back up copies of copyrighted materials.
You know what? Maybe there will. Because you don't really want the right 'back up' your copyrighted materials do you? No, you want to rip them off and email them to your mates. Well, if all you 'free free free' assholes continue to behave like this - what happens? Either people give up selling things, or they tax EVERYONE for your asshole behaviour (see Canadian CD tax thing the other day).
Or maybe it'll have none of this bullshit that you just made up whilst slowly rubbing your 1-inch weiner against your unused 'Programming for Linux' handbook.
All one needs to do is to sell re-writables with pre-recorded free music from struggling artists?
I'll gladly pay a levy on that if the money actually goes to the struggling artists...
Surely you contradicted yourself here? 'I see a loophole, if we sell em with music on no levy - I'd gladly pay that levy!'
Nice to see a bit of the usual slash as well - oh yeah, I'll *pay* for struggling artists, but successful ones can stick it, I'll just steal their stuff!
I get the authors point, but I don't think he makes it well..
No one speaks of subroutines that cp themselves through undocumented remote procedure calls because talk of 'computer viruses' carries all of the portent and weight of polio, anthrax, German Measles and tuberculosis.
Yeah, no-one speaks of the exact way all these illness viruses work either since it's easy to abstract it out to a simple term 'virus'/
Well, you said your software was for Linux, so calling the people who might have written the kernel 'half-wits' is a shade hypocritical..
And exactly what percentage of Linux users have 'written' the kernel? Some Windows users wrote the kernel for that, can we not call them half-wits either?
Umm, the AI lab already had their computers. We might have paid for them to set up, but we probably didn't pay much extra for RMS to work there. Same with most people. If you already have a computer, you don't need to pay for it.
A market stall-holder would be a pretty mean bastard if he complained about someone taking a grape before paying for it wouldn't he? But what if everyone did it? What if the labs are full of people using the computers, so no-one more entitled can use them?